2009 MLB Regular Season Thread - Page 44

stevew · 06-12-2009, 08:04 PM

Porcello pitches at least 7 strong and drives in two runs.

JS19 · 06-12-2009, 09:22 PM

I heart David Wright, the man has been unstoppable the past couple weeks. He just came up with an RBI double on a 2-2 count (i think) off Mo to break a 7-7 tie in the 8th. Been an entertaining game between the two, back and forth.

Lathum · 06-12-2009, 09:56 PM

I feel ill

Jas_lov · 06-12-2009, 09:56 PM

lol, what a way to lose for the Mets.

Ksyrup · 06-12-2009, 09:57 PM

I CANNOT believe what just happened in the Yankees/Mets game. Luis Castillo just dropped an ARod pop-up with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th up 8-7 with 2 men on, they both score, and the Yankees win.

Lathum · 06-12-2009, 09:58 PM

I wish the idiot Yankee announcers wouldn't call Arod the "hero"

RomaGoth · 06-12-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I CANNOT believe what just happened in the Yankees/Mets game. Luis Castillo just dropped an ARod pop-up with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th up 8-7 with 2 men on, they both score, and the Yankees win.

This is the only way the Yankees can win, what with the stellar starting pitching they are providing and all.

Ksyrup · 06-12-2009, 09:58 PM

Well, I was rooting for the Yankees to lose, but now that teh Red Sox just went up on the Phillies in the top of the 13th, I guess I'm glad the Mets lost.

JS19 · 06-12-2009, 09:58 PM

sterlingice · 06-12-2009, 10:00 PM

They're showing it on MLBN

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Ksyrup · 06-12-2009, 10:02 PM

You'll want to mute it so you don't have to listen to Michael Kay's giddy call.

DaddyTorgo · 06-12-2009, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I CANNOT believe what just happened in the Yankees/Mets game. Luis Castillo just dropped an ARod pop-up with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th up 8-7 with 2 men on, they both score, and the Yankees win.

ugh

DaddyTorgo · 06-12-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I wish the idiot Yankee announcers wouldn't call Arod the "hero"

let him have his hero moment - this is what...the first game he is somehow involved in them winning since they signed him?

Ksyrup · 06-12-2009, 10:04 PM

I think the worst part of that play on Castillo's part was the throw to second. I'm sure he was in shock, so I guess he wasn't thinking clearly, but he might have gotten Tex at the plate if he had made that throw.

Lathum · 06-12-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

let him have his hero moment - this is what...the first game he is somehow involved in them winning since they signed him?

he didn't win shit.

Castillo did, I hope KRod punches him in the face in the locker room. This team has dropped more fly balls then a little league team, I've never in my 34 years seen anything like it.

Lathum · 06-12-2009, 10:05 PM

They should cut Castillo, send a message that this team better shape up in the field

Ksyrup · 06-12-2009, 10:06 PM

LOL! Props to MLB Network for pulling out the Edward Scissorhands on that short a notice.

JediKooter · 06-12-2009, 10:09 PM

Welp, Peavy is out for at least a month. The Dodgers just got the NL West handed to them. Oh wait...nevermind...

Ksyrup · 06-12-2009, 10:12 PM

While we're celebrating knuckleheads, let's give it up for Milton Bradley, the greatest FA signing ever, mistakenly believing he just caught the third out, posing for the fans while a runner goes from 1st to second, and then throwing the ball into the stands while the runners goes to third. HOLY SHIT - he pulled off a rare Larry Walker gaff/Rickey Henderson pose combo!

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GreenMonster · 06-12-2009, 10:23 PM

I have never seen a worse ending to a game than the Yanks/Mets tonight. Arod, not clutch as usual pops it up with 2 outs in the 9th with runners on 1st and 2nd and Castillo drops the ball in shallow right and both runners score and the Yanks win.

DaddyTorgo · 06-12-2009, 10:24 PM

yah. fucking castillo

DaddyTorgo · 06-12-2009, 10:25 PM

awww...whiny bitchy Joe Girardi

A baseball official told 1050 ESPN Radio in New York that the Yankees called the commissioner's office Friday to ask that Brad Penny be suspended for hitting Alex Rodriguez in the back during the first inning of Thursday night's Red Sox win.
"Penny's control was pretty good," Girardi said. "I thought it was on purpose. That is all part of baseball."
Yankees pitchers have hit Red Sox players nine times this season. Rodriguez was the third Yankee to be plunked.

RedKingGold · 06-12-2009, 11:17 PM

I love when my Phillies win and hate when they lose, but damn does it ease the pain a little bit when your rival loses in embarassing fashion.

Marmel · 06-13-2009, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

awww...whiny bitchy Joe Girardi

A baseball official told 1050 ESPN Radio in New York that the Yankees called the commissioner's office Friday to ask that Brad Penny be suspended for hitting Alex Rodriguez in the back during the first inning of Thursday night's Red Sox win.
"Penny's control was pretty good," Girardi said. "I thought it was on purpose. That is all part of baseball."
Yankees pitchers have hit Red Sox players nine times this season. Rodriguez was the third Yankee to be plunked.

I have to agree with Girardi on this one. What Penney did was pretty bush league. He tried to hit A-Rod with the first pitch and missed. Instead he throws a strike to make it look good then drills him. If that is not as intentional as it gets, I don't know what is. He should have been tossed from the game. The Sox have out beanballed the Yanks at about a 3-1 pace over the last few years.

Logan · 06-13-2009, 12:39 AM

I still can't believe that happened. One of those losses where you wonder why you even give a shit about this stuff.

DaddyTorgo · 06-13-2009, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Marmel

I have to agree with Girardi on this one. What Penney did was pretty bush league. He tried to hit A-Rod with the first pitch and missed. Instead he throws a strike to make it look good then drills him. If that is not as intentional as it gets, I don't know what is. He should have been tossed from the game. The Sox have out beanballed the Yanks at about a 3-1 pace over the last few years.

I'm not about to go look for the totals, but:

In eight games this season, the HBP totals between these two teams breaks down like this:

Red Sox: 9 (Bay (3), Youkilis, Green (2), Varitek, Drew, Bailey)
Yankees: 3 (Teixeira, Jeter, Rodriquez)

And I don't get his point. It's "all part of baseball" but you want him suspended anyways? What about all those times last season when Joba threw beanballs at Youk's head. Nobody over here was bitching for him to get suspended. Man up Joe.

EagleFan · 06-13-2009, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

I love when my Phillies win and hate when they lose, but damn does it ease the pain a little bit when your rival loses in embarassing fashion.

+1

Several things happening on that play too.

A-Rod wanting to try for second, thought the coach was going to chase him down and drag him back to first.

Castillo throwing to second. Only chance of anything was a throw home but who knows where his head was at that very moment.

The umpire's reaction. He was jogging out there for formality and does a double take before making the signal on the drop.

The annoying announcers with A-Rod the "hero". I will give him credit that he ran it out. As much as it was fn to see the Mets lose like that I must say that it would have been funny to also see a force out at first if he had not run it out to end the game as what would have been the winning run crossed the plate.

Oh, on a note not related to that game. Why the fuck would they not go to the replay on the Dobbs "foul" ball. The ball is way over the foul pole and hooking, there is no shame in going to the replay there.

DaddyTorgo · 06-13-2009, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

+1

Several things happening on that play too.

A-Rod wanting to try for second, thought the coach was going to chase him down and drag him back to first.

Castillo throwing to second. Only chance of anything was a throw home but who knows where his head was at that very moment.

The umpire's reaction. He was jogging out there for formality and does a double take before making the signal on the drop.

The annoying announcers with A-Rod the "hero". I will give him credit that he ran it out. As much as it was fn to see the Mets lose like that I must say that it would have been funny to also see a force out at first if he had not run it out to end the game as what would have been the winning run crossed the plate.

Oh, on a note not related to that game. Why the fuck would they not go to the replay on the Dobbs "foul" ball. The ball is way over the foul pole and hooking, there is no shame in going to the replay there.

manuel could have asked for it - i dunno why he didn't, but i presume that the first base ump told him there was zero doubt it was foul

sterlingice · 06-13-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

I still can't believe that happened. One of those losses where you wonder why you even give a shit about this stuff.

Might I refer you to the last page

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EagleFan · 06-13-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

manuel could have asked for it - i dunno why he didn't, but i presume that the first base ump told him there was zero doubt it was foul

He did ask for it.

DaddyTorgo · 06-13-2009, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

He did ask for it.

really? based on what? lip-reading? or has he gone in-print as saying that?

BishopMVP · 06-13-2009, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

He did ask for it.

Earlier in the season the umps had a 10-minute conference, then decided to go for replay on an obvious overturn. I don't get why they don't just go straight for the technology if they have it. Although in this case, I don't think there was any evidence good enough to overturn Dobbs' home run - too high and too angled.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marmel

The Sox have out beanballed the Yanks at about a 3-1 pace over the last few years.

Really? You have any evidence to back that up?

k0ruptr · 06-13-2009, 05:01 PM

so, I think something clicked in Jose Contreras' brain. in his last 14 innings hes allowed 2 hits and no runs. Maybe his forkball is just working again, whatever it is I hope he keeps it up

k0ruptr · 06-13-2009, 05:23 PM

dola, and still rolling. man he looks good

stevew · 06-13-2009, 05:30 PM

I've been impressed the couple times they've gone to replay. Takes just a few seconds once they decide.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 06-14-2009, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

I bet Kauffmann is SRO for this whole weekend Reds-Royals series coming up.

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

I'm sure the Royals will get 40K- that's good right? ("for the entire series" "oh.")

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It appears the only no-shows thus far this weekend have been the Cincinnati Reds.

Friday:

Royals 4
Reds 1
Attendance: 33,000

Saturday:

Royals 7
Reds 4
Attendance: 29,500

I'm floored that anyone even bothers to question the loyalty of the Royals fan base anymore. The team has been terrible for years, but the fans still show up. We may be gluttons for punishment, but we support our lousy team better than some markets support a good team.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 06-14-2009, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marmel

The Sox have out beanballed the Yanks at about a 3-1 pace over the last few years.

2006
Red Sox hit 7 Yankees
Yankees hit 6 Red Sox

2007
Red Sox hit 9 Yankees
Yankees hit 9 Red Sox

2008
Red Sox hit 14 Yankees
Yankees hit 9 Red Sox

2009
Red Sox hit 3 Yankees
Yankees hit 9 Red Sox

Pedro Martinez hasn't pitched for the Red Sox in quite some time.

edit: Having said that, I think it's plain to see that Penny's HPB was intentional, and was in response to the above 2009 stats. He hit him square in the back, it's not like he threw at his head multiple times.

sterlingice · 06-14-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

It appears the only no-shows thus far this weekend have been the Cincinnati Reds.

Friday:

Royals 4
Reds 1
Attendance: 33,000

Saturday:

Royals 7
Reds 4
Attendance: 29,500

I'm floored that anyone even bothers to question the loyalty of the Royals fan base anymore. The team has been terrible for years, but the fans still show up. We may be gluttons for punishment, but we support our lousy team better than some markets support a good team.

Well, color me impressed by those numbers. After the recent swoon, I thought we had gotten into the part of the season where I was there with about 15K of my closest friends the last few years with the Greinke exception thrown in this year.

I do remember a couple of years ago that there was a study out which showed that even with the lower attendance, Kansas City had one of the highest per capita- top 5 level- of any team in the league. It's just that the city doesn't have as many people to draw from, which, again, is impressive considering the futility we've seen in the long term.

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JPhillips · 06-14-2009, 01:07 PM

Please. Half of those in attendance were just there to watch Dusty do something inexplicable.

Jas_lov · 06-14-2009, 01:49 PM

The Mets are pathetic. Johann went 3 and gave up 9. LOL! The 4th inning has been an absolute embarrassment. And there it goes from Robbie Cano! 11-0! Sabathia, Melky, Hughes > Santana

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 06-14-2009, 01:55 PM

Oh shit I forgot that Sabathia was part of the trade.

Jas_lov · 06-14-2009, 01:57 PM

He wasn't, but they probably wouldn't have gotten Sabathia if they had Santana.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 06-14-2009, 01:58 PM

Oh, the Yankees would have discovered fiscal prudence if they made the trade? I'm not convinced.

DeToxRox · 06-14-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

The Mets are pathetic. Johann went 3 and gave up 9. LOL! The 4th inning has been an absolute embarrassment. And there it goes from Robbie Cano! 11-0! Sabathia, Melky, Hughes > Santana

You are seriously Cliff Claven. Your logic never makes sense and I am pretty sure you don't ever leave your bubble. Santana has one bad start ZOMG! As opposed to most of Hughes starts he had which were terrible. How fucking stupid are you, really?

And I hate the Mets and happy to see them down 12-0 but you are an absolute moron.

DeToxRox · 06-14-2009, 02:10 PM

Has anyone else heard this?

Apparently some radio station in Cinncy is reporting Joey Votto is gay and that is why he has been out because he is having trouble dealing with it?

It makes such little sense it can't be legit but I've seen it mentioned a few times. A stupid joke perhaps?

Crapshoot · 06-14-2009, 02:14 PM

Votto's been out for stress-related issues for a couple of weeks now - I hope he's okay. And I hope in this day and age, no one gives a flying fuck about who he wants to sleep with.

DaddyTorgo · 06-14-2009, 02:21 PM

oh snap

the Phils are really bringing in Chan-ho Park?

DaddyTorgo · 06-14-2009, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

You are seriously Cliff Claven. Your logic never makes sense and I am pretty sure you don't ever leave your bubble. Santana has one bad start ZOMG! As opposed to most of Hughes starts he had which were terrible. How fucking stupid are you, really?

And I hate the Mets and happy to see them down 12-0 but you are an absolute moron.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 06-14-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Please. Half of those in attendance were just there to watch Dusty do something inexplicable.

I don't know if it was inexplicable or not, but I just watched him fire his baseball cap halfway down the dugout.

JS19 · 06-14-2009, 02:54 PM

I'm starting to wonder if there may be something wrong, injury wise, with Johan. For about the past month he hasn't been "Santana like". Don't get me wrong, over that month he's pitched well above average, just not his usual dominant self, and he's velocity has been down. Wonder if he's a bit fatigued, or just going through a little slump. He did have that shoulder, or was it elbow, problem in the spring.

06-12-2009, 09:57 PM	#2155
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I CANNOT believe what just happened in the Yankees/Mets game. Luis Castillo just dropped an ARod pop-up with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th up 8-7 with 2 men on, they both score, and the Yankees win. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

06-12-2009, 09:58 PM	#2158
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Well, I was rooting for the Yankees to lose, but now that teh Red Sox just went up on the Phillies in the top of the 13th, I guess I'm glad the Mets lost. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

06-12-2009, 09:58 PM	#2159
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	wow

06-12-2009, 10:00 PM	#2160
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	They're showing it on MLBN SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

06-12-2009, 10:02 PM	#2161
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	You'll want to mute it so you don't have to listen to Michael Kay's giddy call. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

06-12-2009, 08:04 PM	#2151
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Porcello pitches at least 7 strong and drives in two runs.

06-12-2009, 09:22 PM	#2152
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	I heart David Wright, the man has been unstoppable the past couple weeks. He just came up with an RBI double on a 2-2 count (i think) off Mo to break a 7-7 tie in the 8th. Been an entertaining game between the two, back and forth.

06-12-2009, 09:56 PM	#2153
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I feel ill

06-12-2009, 09:56 PM	#2154
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	lol, what a way to lose for the Mets.

06-12-2009, 09:58 PM	#2156
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I wish the idiot Yankee announcers wouldn't call Arod the "hero"

06-12-2009, 10:04 PM	#2164
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I think the worst part of that play on Castillo's part was the throw to second. I'm sure he was in shock, so I guess he wasn't thinking clearly, but he might have gotten Tex at the plate if he had made that throw. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

06-12-2009, 10:05 PM	#2166
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	They should cut Castillo, send a message that this team better shape up in the field

06-12-2009, 10:06 PM	#2167
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	LOL! Props to MLB Network for pulling out the Edward Scissorhands on that short a notice. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

06-12-2009, 10:09 PM	#2168
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	Welp, Peavy is out for at least a month. The Dodgers just got the NL West handed to them. Oh wait...nevermind... __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

06-12-2009, 10:12 PM	#2169
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	While we're celebrating knuckleheads, let's give it up for Milton Bradley, the greatest FA signing ever, mistakenly believing he just caught the third out, posing for the fans while a runner goes from 1st to second, and then throwing the ball into the stands while the runners goes to third. HOLY SHIT - he pulled off a rare Larry Walker gaff/Rickey Henderson pose combo! >> __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

06-12-2009, 10:23 PM	#2170
GreenMonster High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2005	I have never seen a worse ending to a game than the Yanks/Mets tonight. Arod, not clutch as usual pops it up with 2 outs in the 9th with runners on 1st and 2nd and Castillo drops the ball in shallow right and both runners score and the Yanks win.

06-12-2009, 10:24 PM	#2171
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	yah. fucking castillo __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-12-2009, 10:25 PM	#2172
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	awww...whiny bitchy Joe Girardi A baseball official told 1050 ESPN Radio in New York that the Yankees called the commissioner's office Friday to ask that Brad Penny be suspended for hitting Alex Rodriguez in the back during the first inning of Thursday night's Red Sox win. "Penny's control was pretty good," Girardi said. "I thought it was on purpose. That is all part of baseball." Yankees pitchers have hit Red Sox players nine times this season. Rodriguez was the third Yankee to be plunked. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-12-2009, 11:17 PM	#2173
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	I love when my Phillies win and hate when they lose, but damn does it ease the pain a little bit when your rival loses in embarassing fashion. Last edited by RedKingGold : 06-12-2009 at 11:18 PM.

06-13-2009, 12:39 AM	#2175
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	I still can't believe that happened. One of those losses where you wonder why you even give a shit about this stuff.

06-13-2009, 05:01 PM	#2183
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	so, I think something clicked in Jose Contreras' brain. in his last 14 innings hes allowed 2 hits and no runs. Maybe his forkball is just working again, whatever it is I hope he keeps it up

06-13-2009, 05:23 PM	#2184
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	dola, and still rolling. man he looks good

06-13-2009, 05:30 PM	#2185
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I've been impressed the couple times they've gone to replay. Takes just a few seconds once they decide.

06-14-2009, 01:07 PM	#2189
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Please. Half of those in attendance were just there to watch Dusty do something inexplicable. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

06-14-2009, 01:49 PM	#2190
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	The Mets are pathetic. Johann went 3 and gave up 9. LOL! The 4th inning has been an absolute embarrassment. And there it goes from Robbie Cano! 11-0! Sabathia, Melky, Hughes > Santana

06-14-2009, 01:55 PM	#2191
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Oh shit I forgot that Sabathia was part of the trade. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

06-14-2009, 01:57 PM	#2192
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	He wasn't, but they probably wouldn't have gotten Sabathia if they had Santana.

06-14-2009, 01:58 PM	#2193
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Oh, the Yankees would have discovered fiscal prudence if they made the trade? I'm not convinced. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

06-14-2009, 02:10 PM	#2195
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Has anyone else heard this? Apparently some radio station in Cinncy is reporting Joey Votto is gay and that is why he has been out because he is having trouble dealing with it? It makes such little sense it can't be legit but I've seen it mentioned a few times. A stupid joke perhaps?

06-14-2009, 02:14 PM	#2196
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Votto's been out for stress-related issues for a couple of weeks now - I hope he's okay. And I hope in this day and age, no one gives a flying fuck about who he wants to sleep with.

06-14-2009, 02:21 PM	#2197
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	oh snap the Phils are really bringing in Chan-ho Park? __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-14-2009, 02:54 PM	#2200
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	I'm starting to wonder if there may be something wrong, injury wise, with Johan. For about the past month he hasn't been "Santana like". Don't get me wrong, over that month he's pitched well above average, just not his usual dominant self, and he's velocity has been down. Wonder if he's a bit fatigued, or just going through a little slump. He did have that shoulder, or was it elbow, problem in the spring.

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