Werewolf XCVIII - 24 Day Game Over - Post 2899 - Page 43

nfg22 · 07-10-2009, 01:59 PM

oops sorry...

Autumn · 07-10-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i maintain that my list is correct though, regardless of whether henry's is correct. my list cannot be incorrect (notwithstanding it may include a traitor or a cunning wolf).

well if you're backing nfg then henry's list is wrong, correct? And the chance of there being a traitor or cunning seems near 100% in this game.

I'll vote Pass as long as you think you've thought this through.

DaddyTorgo · 07-10-2009, 01:59 PM

alright - who's fucking with nfg this time?

Passacaglia · 07-10-2009, 02:00 PM

Oh so now NFG gets imprisoned and can't say anything more? Convenient.

PurdueBrad · 07-10-2009, 02:00 PM

I'm still very, very torn. For now

vote Pass

Autumn · 07-10-2009, 02:00 PM

Autumn · 07-10-2009, 02:00 PM

That wasn't you DT?

EagleFan · 07-10-2009, 02:00 PM

Okay, this is a rollercoaster for me at the moment (I have gone from dumbfounded that I couldn't get anyone to listen to ticked that it seemed like everyone had turned against me, in my head at least, to now even more confused about the nfg thing, just who took him?). I am going to step away and clear my head. I think I am still concerned with henry's status and claim but we'll see how the next day turns out. It looks like we're going to have a weekend to decide what to do next.

The Jackal · 07-10-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

well if you're backing nfg then henry's list is wrong, correct? And the chance of there being a traitor or cunning seems near 100% in this game.

I'll vote Pass as long as you think you've thought this through.

The only way it would make henry's list wrong is if saldana is actually a wolf, which DT suggested, but I don't recall the connection between saldana/Pass

kingfc22 · 07-10-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

alright - who's fucking with nfg this time?

Not me.

Passacaglia · 07-10-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I'm still very, very torn. For now

vote Pass

Yeah dude, that doesn't sound very torn to me.

Passacaglia · 07-10-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Okay, this is a rollercoaster for me at the moment (I have gone from dumbfounded that I couldn't get anyone to listen to ticked that it seemed like everyone had turned against me, in my head at least, to now even more confused about the nfg thing, just who took him?). I am going to step away and clear my head. I think I am still concerned with henry's status and claim but we'll see how the next day turns out. It looks like we're going to have a weekend to decide what to do next.

Yes, you definitely gained the most in this.

ISiddiqui · 07-10-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

Because that would mean three different kill attempts last night?

Huh... that's right, isn't it? Danny, Jack, and NFG in one night then.

path12 · 07-10-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

The way I see it there are 4 possible scenarios now that I have been falsely accused.

1) Both henry and I are good.

2) Both henry and I are bad.

3) I am bad and henry is good,

4) henry is bad and I am good.

Catching up before I vote and am gone until evening......but I have to say, wouldn't these be the only possible scenarios BEFORE you were accused?

kingfc22 · 07-10-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Huh... that's right, isn't it? Danny, Jack, and NFG in one night then.

Something sticks to high heaven right now.

DaddyTorgo · 07-10-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

well if you're backing nfg then henry's list is wrong, correct? And the chance of there being a traitor or cunning seems near 100% in this game.

I'll vote Pass as long as you think you've thought this through.

i have.

the only way i can see this being wrong is if suvarov is a traitor or cunning(in which case the wolves win and we might as well go home now), or if somebody had a power to drug him and mess with his mind and make him think he saw something he didn't.

i think the first of those is basically impossible, and i think the second of those is wayyyyyy out there on the list of potential things.

plus, if we lynch pass and he somehow is good - we have cleared saldana (who pass vouched for as soothsayer), so we're only down one villager.

kingfc22 · 07-10-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Catching up before I vote and am gone until evening......but I have to say, wouldn't these be the only possible scenarios BEFORE you were accused?

LOL

DaddyTorgo · 07-10-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

That wasn't you DT?

no

Autumn · 07-10-2009, 02:03 PM

DT, is it possible NFG has another win scenario?

Anyone owning up to doing that to nfg? It makes me believe him since the only reason I can see to take him away is to get at Jack? But who here is in charge of the FBI?

DaddyTorgo · 07-10-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

The only way it would make henry's list wrong is if saldana is actually a wolf, which DT suggested, but I don't recall the connection between saldana/Pass

soothsayer-pass vouched for saldana.

The Jackal · 07-10-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

soothsayer-pass vouched for saldana.

Thanks.

ISiddiqui · 07-10-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

FBI agents come into the building and escort nfg away holding him in a detention cell for the time being.

Poor NFG, thrown behind bars right after he got out? Obviously he said too much for someone...

The Jackal · 07-10-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Poor NFG, thrown behind bars right after he got out? Obviously he said too much for someone...

Is that someone you?

Autumn · 07-10-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i have.

the only way i can see this being wrong is if suvarov is a traitor or cunning(in which case the wolves win and we might as well go home now), or if somebody had a power to drug him and mess with his mind and make him think he saw something he didn't.

i think the first of those is basically impossible, and i think the second of those is wayyyyyy out there on the list of potential things.

plus, if we lynch pass and he somehow is good - we have cleared saldana (who pass vouched for as soothsayer), so we're only down one villager.

Why do you think Sukarov being a cunning or traitor is imposisble?

I agree the second is way out there. I'm glad I hesitated on stringing EF up, I guess. So if Pass is good, Saldana is vouched for and we lynch nfg? If Pass is bad, saldana's bad and EF is bad?

This is frigging confusing.

DaddyTorgo · 07-10-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

DT, is it possible NFG has another win scenario?

Anyone owning up to doing that to nfg? It makes me believe him since the only reason I can see to take him away is to get at Jack? But who here is in charge of the FBI?

not possible IMO. Wouldn't make any sense by the standard rules of WW.

ISiddiqui has a power related to the government - maybe he was lying about what exactly it was and he's one of the wolves?

DaddyTorgo · 07-10-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Is that someone you?

methinks by that statement he is. isiddiqui claimed a power related to government - maybe he was trying to play it close to his real power and he's the conspirator inside the fbi

Passacaglia · 07-10-2009, 02:07 PM

Okay, as much as I want to stay and rail about this, I should really work out. Back in an hour, at which point, I will continue railing.

path12 · 07-10-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nfg22

Basically I was told I was out...so I was...then in the middle...a kill attempt was tried...Im not a BG but I have the chance to save certain people...I guess it worked for me and Pass came up the culprit..

Make sure your PM says what you think it says and reply before I put a vote down.

DaddyTorgo · 07-10-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

Why do you think Sukarov being a cunning or traitor is imposisble?

I agree the second is way out there. I'm glad I hesitated on stringing EF up, I guess. So if Pass is good, Saldana is vouched for and we lynch nfg? If Pass is bad, saldana's bad and EF is bad?

This is frigging confusing.

i just think it is.

if pass is good then saldana is vouched for and we CONSIDER lynching nfg (or seriously consider the fact that the 2nd way is wayyyyy out there).

if pass is bad then i PRESUME saldana is bad and EF may/is likely to be good.

ISiddiqui · 07-10-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Is that someone you?

It wasn't me. I have absolutely nothing to fear from NFG's spilling the beans about who put him away.

path12 · 07-10-2009, 02:13 PM

DT, why do you say that if Sukarov is cunning then the wolves win?

The Jackal · 07-10-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

DT, why do you say that if Sukarov is cunning then the wolves win?

+1

Because remember if you think he is too powerful.. you are Jack Bauer.

The Jackal · 07-10-2009, 02:17 PM

And it's usually the people closest to the good people that betray them in the show.

ISiddiqui · 07-10-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

methinks by that statement he is. isiddiqui claimed a power related to government - maybe he was trying to play it close to his real power and he's the conspirator inside the fbi

I was trying to claim it was either king or saldana, but to further clear myself, I'll note that my character was never associated with the FBI in the show.

path12 · 07-10-2009, 02:19 PM

Is there an updated count, BTW? I really do have to run soon.

DaddyTorgo · 07-10-2009, 02:19 PM

as long as nfg is confident in his vote i am confident in mine

DaddyTorgo · 07-10-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I was trying to claim it was either king or saldana, but to further clear myself, I'll note that my character was never associated with the FBI in the show.

aaah okay. i couldn't recall your role-PM and i am a bit work-swamped.

Barkeep49 · 07-10-2009, 02:21 PM

Thomkal: henry (1711 9:35 pm) saldana (1758; 10:33 pm) ntn (1762, 10:35 pm)
Pass: EF (2052 1:45 pm) DT (2057, 1:45 pm) Jackal (2062, 1:46 PM) PB (2109 2:00)
EF: Pass (1986, 1:05 pm)

ISiddiqui · 07-10-2009, 02:23 PM

DT: Understandable.

I was with path, in wanting to NFG to make sure that his PM said what he thought it said, but since the wolves don't want NFG to talk anymore, I don't think I can wait around...

Vote Pass

path12 · 07-10-2009, 02:24 PM

Dang. I'm this close to voting Pass, but there's a few things I'm just really unsure about right now.

I'm waiting. I'll be out until around 5PM Pacific. I'd rather hold my vote than get the wrong guy here.

DaddyTorgo · 07-10-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Dang. I'm this close to voting Pass, but there's a few things I'm just really unsure about right now.

I'm waiting. I'll be out until around 5PM Pacific. I'd rather hold my vote than get the wrong guy here.

anything i can help you with?

DaddyTorgo · 07-10-2009, 02:30 PM

i trust nfg. i think his initial wording can be attributed to excitement and also to rushing because maybe he knew he could be silenced again? and also to trying not to reveal too much initially about his powers.

Poli · 07-10-2009, 02:35 PM

Beep, beep, beep, beep...

Autumn · 07-10-2009, 02:38 PM

Well, I guess we can't interrogate nfg further so all we can do is test it with a lynch, as much as his story sounds fishy.

Vote Pass

DaddyTorgo · 07-10-2009, 02:41 PM

if nfg is wrong you all can lynch me next, how's that?

DaddyTorgo · 07-10-2009, 02:41 PM

lol - bet hoops + barkeep never even considered that possibility - that'd be a funny writeup

ISiddiqui · 07-10-2009, 02:43 PM

LOL!!!

The members of CTU decide to lynch Jack Bauer... until they find out that he's unkillable, oh shit

EagleFan · 07-10-2009, 02:44 PM

Af of 2148 (correct me if I missed anything):

Thom 3 (19%) - henry (1711), saldana (1758), ntn (1762)
EF 1 (6%) - Pass (1986)
Pass 7 (44%) - nfg (2033), EF (2052), DT (2057), Jackal (2062), PB (2109), IS (2143), Autumn (2148)

Yet to vote:
Autumn, Schmidty, BrianD, Thomkal, path12, king

Does nfg's vote not count?

Poli · 07-10-2009, 02:45 PM

Beep, beep, beep, beep...

EagleFan · 07-10-2009, 02:45 PM

I ask about nfg as I don't see him in BK's count.

07-10-2009, 01:59 PM	#2103
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	alright - who's fucking with nfg this time? __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

07-10-2009, 02:00 PM	#2106
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	wtf?

07-10-2009, 02:13 PM	#2131
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	DT, why do you say that if Sukarov is cunning then the wolves win? __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-10-2009, 02:19 PM	#2135
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Is there an updated count, BTW? I really do have to run soon. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-10-2009, 02:19 PM	#2136
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	as long as nfg is confident in his vote i am confident in mine __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

07-10-2009, 01:59 PM	#2101
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	oops sorry...

07-10-2009, 02:00 PM	#2104
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Oh so now NFG gets imprisoned and can't say anything more? Convenient.

07-10-2009, 02:00 PM	#2105
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	I'm still very, very torn. For now vote Pass

07-10-2009, 02:00 PM	#2107
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	That wasn't you DT?

07-10-2009, 02:00 PM	#2108
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Okay, this is a rollercoaster for me at the moment (I have gone from dumbfounded that I couldn't get anyone to listen to ticked that it seemed like everyone had turned against me, in my head at least, to now even more confused about the nfg thing, just who took him?). I am going to step away and clear my head. I think I am still concerned with henry's status and claim but we'll see how the next day turns out. It looks like we're going to have a weekend to decide what to do next.

07-10-2009, 02:03 PM	#2119
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	DT, is it possible NFG has another win scenario? Anyone owning up to doing that to nfg? It makes me believe him since the only reason I can see to take him away is to get at Jack? But who here is in charge of the FBI?

07-10-2009, 02:07 PM	#2127
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Okay, as much as I want to stay and rail about this, I should really work out. Back in an hour, at which point, I will continue railing.

07-10-2009, 02:17 PM	#2133
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	And it's usually the people closest to the good people that betray them in the show.

07-10-2009, 02:21 PM	#2138
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Thomkal: henry (1711 9:35 pm) saldana (1758; 10:33 pm) ntn (1762, 10:35 pm) Pass: EF (2052 1:45 pm) DT (2057, 1:45 pm) Jackal (2062, 1:46 PM) PB (2109 2:00) EF: Pass (1986, 1:05 pm)

07-10-2009, 02:23 PM	#2139
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	DT: Understandable. I was with path, in wanting to NFG to make sure that his PM said what he thought it said, but since the wolves don't want NFG to talk anymore, I don't think I can wait around... Vote Pass __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-10-2009, 02:24 PM	#2140
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Dang. I'm this close to voting Pass, but there's a few things I'm just really unsure about right now. I'm waiting. I'll be out until around 5PM Pacific. I'd rather hold my vote than get the wrong guy here. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-10-2009, 02:30 PM	#2142
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	i trust nfg. i think his initial wording can be attributed to excitement and also to rushing because maybe he knew he could be silenced again? and also to trying not to reveal too much initially about his powers. __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

07-10-2009, 02:35 PM	#2143
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Beep, beep, beep, beep... __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-10-2009, 02:38 PM	#2144
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Well, I guess we can't interrogate nfg further so all we can do is test it with a lynch, as much as his story sounds fishy. Vote Pass

07-10-2009, 02:41 PM	#2145
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	if nfg is wrong you all can lynch me next, how's that? __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

07-10-2009, 02:41 PM	#2146
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	lol - bet hoops + barkeep never even considered that possibility - that'd be a funny writeup __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

07-10-2009, 02:43 PM	#2147
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	LOL!!! The members of CTU decide to lynch Jack Bauer... until they find out that he's unkillable, oh shit __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-10-2009, 02:44 PM	#2148
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Af of 2148 (correct me if I missed anything): Thom 3 (19%) - henry (1711), saldana (1758), ntn (1762) EF 1 (6%) - Pass (1986) Pass 7 (44%) - nfg (2033), EF (2052), DT (2057), Jackal (2062), PB (2109), IS (2143), Autumn (2148) Yet to vote: Autumn, Schmidty, BrianD, Thomkal, path12, king Does nfg's vote not count?

07-10-2009, 02:45 PM	#2149
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Beep, beep, beep, beep... __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-10-2009, 02:45 PM	#2150
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I ask about nfg as I don't see him in BK's count.

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