If Trump Loses In November, What Do You Think Happens Next - Page 42

molson · 01-11-2021, 10:58 AM

Always better to get that stuff through subpoena if it's for criminal charges, otherwise, they have to rely on that hacker as a witness for every case. But that info would be great to help know what to request, for national security reasons, and for private use - I hope we get a database where employers and friends and family and neighbors can look up everyone who's affiliated with this movement and what they've said/done/threatened to do. I'm enjoying the stories of people being "revealed", losing their jobs, etc.

miami_fan · 01-11-2021, 11:04 AM

One thing I have learned with all the discoveries. It is best to have a good to great relationships with your ex spouse after divorce if you are going to get yourself involved in possibly illegal activity

Ksyrup · 01-11-2021, 11:06 AM

"How soon are you government people available for the custody hearing my attorney is scheduling today?"

JPhillips · 01-11-2021, 11:16 AM

lol

Lathum · 01-11-2021, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

Always better to get that stuff through subpoena if it's for criminal charges, otherwise, they have to rely on that hacker as a witness for every case. But that info would be great to help know what to request, for national security reasons, and for private use - I hope we get a database where employers and friends and family and neighbors can look up everyone who's affiliated with this movement and what they've said/done/threatened to do. I'm enjoying the stories of people being "revealed", losing their jobs, etc.

I love it that these people are surprised about the consequences they face.

Lathum · 01-11-2021, 11:19 AM

Supreme Court Refuses To Consider GOP Post-Election Cases Before Biden Takes Office

kingfc22 · 01-11-2021, 11:34 AM

Since the enablers won't act on their own, we need more of this.

Dow Chemical won't donate to politicians who opposed election results | TheHill

Money talks. The irony of big business who benefitted the most from the GOP tax cuts making this type of move is just a thing of beauty to see.

GrantDawg · 01-11-2021, 11:39 AM

The Republicans are so good at this stuff:
Why isn't there a Blinken conformation hearing scheduled before Jan 20? GOP senate aide points to a "slow response from the Blinken team" & COVID limitations leaving few rooms avail for big hearings. Dem senate aide calls those reasons "simply false." Dems in minority til Jan 20. — Kylie Atwood (@kylieatwood) January 11, 2021

GrantDawg · 01-11-2021, 11:45 AM

"Democrats should stop being so divisive"
Current billboard in Forsyth County, Georgia saying Republicans, Gov. Kemp & Secretary of State Ratffensperger, should be locked up for treason. pic.twitter.com/7nCc9hFXa7 — Brendan Keefe (@BrendanKeefe) January 11, 2021

GrantDawg · 01-11-2021, 11:52 AM

This is another thing that the Republicans do. Once people started comparing the attack on the Capitol with the "Night of Broken Glass", they have to appropriate it with something completely incomparable.
Fox's Jeanine Pirro says the deplatforming of Parler, a haven for white supremacists, "is akin to a Kristallnacht," an infamous night of Nazi hate crimes against Jewish people. pic.twitter.com/D3L6JrkD1X — Bobby Lewis (@revrrlewis) January 11, 2021

Edward64 · 01-11-2021, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

"Democrats should stop being so divisive"

That's my county.

I'll be surprised if it stays up there long.

kingfc22 · 01-11-2021, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

That's my county.

I'll be surprised if it stays up there long.

The fact that it is still up says everything that is needed.

Flasch186 · 01-11-2021, 12:09 PM

Right, throw enough smoke bombs in the room and people can't see that the people that are talking to them are wearing white robes (or clothes at all for that matter.)

CrimsonFox · 01-11-2021, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

dola- Jeff Flake saying he was on the hill 9/11 and the baseball field getting shot at and this was the worst thing he has seen.

fucking flake

CrimsonFox · 01-11-2021, 12:17 PM

ugh reading this thread while tupsy is even worse...........stop fingers....stop

CrimsonFox · 01-11-2021, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

"Now is a time for healing" i cry as i light a molotov cocktail — rad left dem (@rad_left_dem) January 11, 2021

so sivck of every reepublican that uses a word they'd never heard of before hearing it on foxnews. exfirend used to do that constantly

GrantDawg · 01-11-2021, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

The fact that it is still up says everything that is needed.

Well, it is Forsyth county. They wouldn't allow black people to move into the county a couple of decades ago. The demographic is changing, but it it still has some of that attitude around.

GrantDawg · 01-11-2021, 12:26 PM

dola: that is no slam on Edward. I am sure he moved there well after that scandal was past.

JPhillips · 01-11-2021, 01:06 PM

Is any GOPer going to acknowledge that Parler would be in very deep legal trouble now without Section 230 protections?

albionmoonlight · 01-11-2021, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Is any GOPer going to acknowledge that Parler would be in very deep legal trouble now without Section 230 protections?

Nope.

They have (smartly) managed to hijack the debate, making it seem like Section 230 hurts conservatives when, of course, it is the only reason Q can exist on social media at all.

GrantDawg · 01-11-2021, 01:12 PM

No one (especially the President) on the right has any idea what section 230 does.

CrimsonFox · 01-11-2021, 01:31 PM

GrantDawg · 01-11-2021, 01:32 PM

In the wake of Wednesday's assault on the Capitol, President Trump has been advised he potentially could face civil liability connected to his role in encouraging supporters who went on to storm Congress. Story w/ @Santucci @jonkarl https://t.co/eZBMD8tTFx — Katherine Faulders (@KFaulders) January 11, 2021

GrantDawg · 01-11-2021, 01:34 PM

Dang, stuff keeps raining in. DC AG would still be gibing federal charges, right? There is no municipal/state law?
BREAKING: DC Attorney General is looking at charging Trump and others for inciting violence—via CNN — Scott Dworkin (@funder) January 11, 2021

albionmoonlight · 01-11-2021, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Dang, stuff keeps raining in. DC AG would still be gibing federal charges, right? There is no municipal/state law?
BREAKING: DC Attorney General is looking at charging Trump and others for inciting violence—via CNN — Scott Dworkin (@funder) January 11, 2021

Yup. D.C. is federal (i.e. would be covered by a pardon and involve Biden/Garland having to follow through with it).

There is a D.C. municipal code that sort of works like state law. But it is all federal at the end of the day.

miami_fan · 01-11-2021, 04:20 PM

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/polit...tol/index.html

Flasch186 · 01-11-2021, 04:27 PM

Acting Sec of Homeland Security resigns on the heels of having a boatload of armed protests being planned....awesome.

CrimsonFox · 01-11-2021, 04:32 PM

CrimsonFox · 01-11-2021, 04:43 PM

i found it funny that he rips on Ford F150s

RainMaker · 01-11-2021, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Dang, stuff keeps raining in. DC AG would still be gibing federal charges, right? There is no municipal/state law?

This guy is a grifter who is wrong about everything.

AlexB · 01-11-2021, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

This guy is a grifter who is wrong about everything.

Dworkin? Trump? GrantDawg?

RainMaker · 01-11-2021, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexB

Dworkin? Trump? GrantDawg?

Dworkin.

miami_fan · 01-11-2021, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

Acting Sec of Homeland Security resigns on the heels of having a boatload of armed protests being planned....awesome.

And replaced him with the FEMA Administrator.

No, really the FEMA Administrator

The guy who's role is

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to reduce the loss of life and property and protect the nation from all hazards, by leading and supporting the nation in a risk-based, comprehensive emergency management system of preparedness, protection, response, recovery, and mitigation. The Administrator is responsible for preparing for, protecting against, responding to, recovering from and mitigating against the risk of a natural disaster, act of terrorism, or other man-made disaster.

Now that I think about it, they got the right guy. This is a man made disaster.

Good call.

molson · 01-11-2021, 05:59 PM

Nobody really knows if Trump can effectively pardon himself, that will the subject of a legal battle after he's out, but it seems like the smart move here would be to resign and have Pence pardon him - if he hadn't already burned that bridge. Pence pardoning him after all this would be the most cowardly act yet, but, I still really wouldn't be surprised if it happened.

I've wondered how much of Trump's insanity was based on fear of criminal prosecution if he leaves the White House, but, he hasn't acted consistently with that goal either, so, I don't know.

Lathum · 01-11-2021, 06:00 PM

At this point why would Pence pardon him. He literally almost got him killed and has completely turned.

Galaril · 01-11-2021, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

That was amazing.

JPhillips · 01-11-2021, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

And replaced him with the FEMA Administrator.

No, really the FEMA Administrator

The guy who's role is

Now that I think about it, they got the right guy. This is a man made disaster.

Good call.

Wolf's resignation makes it pretty clear that this is just a move to have a legal DHS Secretary codify all the stuff courts have said are invalid because Wolf was illegally appointed. It's just more rat fucking on the way out of the doors.

Edward64 · 01-11-2021, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

Acting Sec of Homeland Security resigns on the heels of having a boatload of armed protests being planned....awesome.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was a "point of failure" where he didn't act on someone's request or warning etc.

But then again, just as easy to believe he said "f*ck it, I'm done with this circus".

Edward64 · 01-11-2021, 06:29 PM

Well, this should be interesting ...

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/polit...yan/index.html

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Two US Capitol Police officers were suspended and up to 15 more are under investigation for their behavior during last week's assault on the Capitol, and federal agents will look at whether current and former law enforcement officers played a role in the riot.

One of the Capitol police officers took a selfie with someone who was part of the mob that overtook the Capitol and the other wore a "Make America Great Again" hat and started directing people around the building, according to Rep. Tim Ryan, an Ohio Democrat. He didn't disclose how many other officers were under investigation but confirmed it was between 10 and 15, and didn't say what they were being scrutinized for except that it was their behavior during the riot.

Galaril · 01-11-2021, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

I wouldn't be surprised if he was a "point of failure" where he didn't act on someone's request or warning etc.

But then again, just as easy to believe he said "f*ck it, I'm done with this circus".

He does not want to be around when these terrorists start attacking all 50. Capitals and every government building in DC this weekend and next week. Fucking coward.

Galaril · 01-11-2021, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/polit...tol/index.html

Yeah not good. They had former FBI counter terrorism director from Bush admin and also former Obama FBI director on CNN .They reminded CNN talking heads that there is 15000 FBI agency’s national many accountants or lawyers. The FBI and Secret Service are not going to secure 50 capitals, all the top leadership as well as the Capital. From what 3000, 40000 50000 or more angry armed insurrections? Though the country has been built to not ever unleash the army on the citizens we have to have all options on the table.

rjolley · 01-11-2021, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

Well, this should be interesting ...

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/polit...yan/index.html

Saw this earlier today: Police officer says he and others were sent home ahead of Capitol riot - Business Insider

sterlingice · 01-11-2021, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Wolf's resignation makes it pretty clear that this is just a move to have a legal DHS Secretary codify all the stuff courts have said are invalid because Wolf was illegally appointed. It's just more rat fucking on the way out of the doors.

Ah, that makes a lot more sense now

SI

GrantDawg · 01-11-2021, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexB

Dworkin? Trump? GrantDawg?

I still think he meant me.

GrantDawg · 01-11-2021, 08:30 PM

Rep. Tom Reed is floating the idea of censure with the inability to hold federal office. Is that strong enough?

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JPhillips · 01-11-2021, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Rep. Tom Reed is floating the idea of censure with the inability to hold federal office. Is that strong enough?

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How do you enforce that without impeachment?

GrantDawg · 01-11-2021, 08:37 PM

Amendment 14 is what is being said.

Ksyrup · 01-11-2021, 08:38 PM

I read something that it was not true that a conviction and removal would make him ineligible to run again, that there would need to be a separate vote on that issue. Maybe that's what they are talking about.

kingfc22 · 01-11-2021, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Rep. Tom Reed is floating the idea of censure with the inability to hold federal office. Is that strong enough?

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No.

rjolley · 01-11-2021, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Amendment 14 is what is being said.

Amendment 14 Section 3:

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

So they'd have to say he was involved in an insurrection and is therefore disqualified from office.

View Poll Results: If Trump Loses In November, What Do You Think Happens Next
Normal transition of power. He meets with Biden, stays until 1/20, comes to inauguration, etc.	5	5.56%
He doesn't fight the result, but resigns prior to the inauguration.	2	2.22%
He fights the result but gives up shortly before the inauguration (let's define "shortly" as "some time after the EC meets on 12/14")	30	33.33%
He fights the result all the way to January 20th. Has to be physically removed.	12	13.33%
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up and resigns before the inauguration	6	6.67%
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01-11-2021, 10:58 AM	#2051
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Always better to get that stuff through subpoena if it's for criminal charges, otherwise, they have to rely on that hacker as a witness for every case. But that info would be great to help know what to request, for national security reasons, and for private use - I hope we get a database where employers and friends and family and neighbors can look up everyone who's affiliated with this movement and what they've said/done/threatened to do. I'm enjoying the stories of people being "revealed", losing their jobs, etc. Last edited by molson : 01-11-2021 at 10:59 AM.

01-11-2021, 11:04 AM	#2052
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	One thing I have learned with all the discoveries. It is best to have a good to great relationships with your ex spouse after divorce if you are going to get yourself involved in possibly illegal activity __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

01-11-2021, 11:06 AM	#2053
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	"How soon are you government people available for the custody hearing my attorney is scheduling today?" __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

01-11-2021, 11:16 AM	#2054
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	lol __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

01-11-2021, 11:19 AM	#2056
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Supreme Court Refuses To Consider GOP Post-Election Cases Before Biden Takes Office

01-11-2021, 11:34 AM	#2057
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Since the enablers won't act on their own, we need more of this. Dow Chemical won't donate to politicians who opposed election results \| TheHill Money talks. The irony of big business who benefitted the most from the GOP tax cuts making this type of move is just a thing of beauty to see. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

01-11-2021, 11:39 AM	#2058
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	The Republicans are so good at this stuff: `Why isn't there a Blinken conformation hearing scheduled before Jan 20? GOP senate aide points to a "slow response from the Blinken team" & COVID limitations leaving few rooms avail for big hearings. Dem senate aide calls those reasons "simply false." Dems in minority til Jan 20. — Kylie Atwood (@kylieatwood) January 11, 2021`

01-11-2021, 11:45 AM	#2059
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	"Democrats should stop being so divisive" `Current billboard in Forsyth County, Georgia saying Republicans, Gov. Kemp & Secretary of State Ratffensperger, should be locked up for treason. pic.twitter.com/7nCc9hFXa7 — Brendan Keefe (@BrendanKeefe) January 11, 2021`

01-11-2021, 11:52 AM	#2060
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	This is another thing that the Republicans do. Once people started comparing the attack on the Capitol with the "Night of Broken Glass", they have to appropriate it with something completely incomparable. `Fox's Jeanine Pirro says the deplatforming of Parler, a haven for white supremacists, "is akin to a Kristallnacht," an infamous night of Nazi hate crimes against Jewish people. pic.twitter.com/D3L6JrkD1X — Bobby Lewis (@revrrlewis) January 11, 2021`

01-11-2021, 12:09 PM	#2063
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	Right, throw enough smoke bombs in the room and people can't see that the people that are talking to them are wearing white robes (or clothes at all for that matter.) __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

01-11-2021, 12:17 PM	#2065
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	ugh reading this thread while tupsy is even worse...........stop fingers....stop

01-11-2021, 12:26 PM	#2068
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	dola: that is no slam on Edward. I am sure he moved there well after that scandal was past.

01-11-2021, 01:06 PM	#2069
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Is any GOPer going to acknowledge that Parler would be in very deep legal trouble now without Section 230 protections? __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

01-11-2021, 01:12 PM	#2071
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	No one (especially the President) on the right has any idea what section 230 does.

01-11-2021, 01:31 PM	#2072
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009

01-11-2021, 01:32 PM	#2073
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	`In the wake of Wednesday's assault on the Capitol, President Trump has been advised he potentially could face civil liability connected to his role in encouraging supporters who went on to storm Congress. Story w/ @Santucci @jonkarl https://t.co/eZBMD8tTFx — Katherine Faulders (@KFaulders) January 11, 2021`

01-11-2021, 01:34 PM	#2074
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Dang, stuff keeps raining in. DC AG would still be gibing federal charges, right? There is no municipal/state law? `BREAKING: DC Attorney General is looking at charging Trump and others for inciting violence—via CNN — Scott Dworkin (@funder) January 11, 2021` Last edited by GrantDawg : 01-11-2021 at 01:34 PM.

01-11-2021, 04:20 PM	#2076
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/11/polit...tol/index.html __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

01-11-2021, 04:27 PM	#2077
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	Acting Sec of Homeland Security resigns on the heels of having a boatload of armed protests being planned....awesome. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

01-11-2021, 04:32 PM	#2078
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009

01-11-2021, 04:43 PM	#2079
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	i found it funny that he rips on Ford F150s

01-11-2021, 05:59 PM	#2084
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Nobody really knows if Trump can effectively pardon himself, that will the subject of a legal battle after he's out, but it seems like the smart move here would be to resign and have Pence pardon him - if he hadn't already burned that bridge. Pence pardoning him after all this would be the most cowardly act yet, but, I still really wouldn't be surprised if it happened. I've wondered how much of Trump's insanity was based on fear of criminal prosecution if he leaves the White House, but, he hasn't acted consistently with that goal either, so, I don't know. Last edited by molson : 01-11-2021 at 06:00 PM.

01-11-2021, 06:00 PM	#2085
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	At this point why would Pence pardon him. He literally almost got him killed and has completely turned.

01-11-2021, 08:30 PM	#2095
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Rep. Tom Reed is floating the idea of censure with the inability to hold federal office. Is that strong enough? Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

01-11-2021, 08:37 PM	#2097
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	If Trump Loses In November, What Do You Think Happens Next Amendment 14 is what is being said. Last edited by GrantDawg : 01-11-2021 at 08:38 PM.

01-11-2021, 08:38 PM	#2098
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I read something that it was not true that a conviction and removal would make him ineligible to run again, that there would need to be a separate vote on that issue. Maybe that's what they are talking about. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

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