Werewolf: XIV Spawn (GAME OVER! Please give feedback)

[Poli]

Put a year of supporter on the line, blade. Let's make it interesting.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Liftoff was considered essential by many.

Want to quote those for me?? i know it was not discussed that im aware of and i know i and a few others would have opposed it at that time...will you quote those that supported it before you ordered it, as well give post #s for reference with your order....seems like a lot, but if you do this ill prob. switch my vote...prob doesnt mean for sure, but it would be a strong push

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Put a year of supporter on the line, blade. Let's make it interesting.

Im not even supporter now ardent, why would i put a year of it on the line new??

[Poli]

Dude, I'm not going back through all that. I'd rather you kill me.

Still, the supporter bet is on if you want. One year or three months. If I'm spawn as of today or before today, you win. If I'm not, I win.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Im not even supporter now ardent, why would i put a year of it on the line new??

Just think, you could be if I'm wrong.

[Poli]

Heck, we'll even throw in your "boy", Achilles.

[Blade6119]

just for reference, i presented my points and voted already...from here on out im mostly going to play with ardent and watch others react...i think kwhit would be the best captain as most people trust him 100%, where ardent has his doubters...

Were getting a free shot at a potential spawn...with the water we have, i say take it...we didnt get our lynch today because he took it...thats opens him up, so lets see where the road winds

[Poli]

I imagine "his" team is defunct by now, though.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Heck, we'll even throw in your "boy", Achilles.

Now thats not fair, why you gotta bring Achilles into this...he is innocent!! INNOCENT I TELL YOU!!!

[Poli]

Blade: Screw you.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I imagine "his" team is defunct by now, though.

They did...unfortunately...Achilles had some defenders near 40-50k tsi, but he just stopped logging in...My bombers are selling the whole team and starting over after trying to drop to D6 this year

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Blade: Screw you.

...ardent, i always talk alot...but remember, bug cast the first stone

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

They did...unfortunately...Achilles had some defenders near 40-50k tsi, but he just stopped logging in...My bombers are selling the whole team and starting over after trying to drop to D6 this year

I'm telling you, I would have bought whoever to prove I'm innocent. You'll see if the crew declares a mutiny that I'm clean.

I'm guilty of a mistake...a mistake I was sure was going to give us the win today. It's my fault, but I shouldn't be "lynched" for it.

[Achilles]

dont be calling me out ardent, im achilles...i do what i want!

[hoopsguy]

Day 1 - Post #107, Vince examines Ardent. Says he is clean. Possibly he and Vince are spawn? Doesn't fit with other spawn activity. Do we agree he was clean this day?
Day 1 - Post #148, AE is not on the Away Team.
Night 1 - Post #346, Vince is spawn attacked. Queen cannot spawn attack two people, as far as I know.
Day 2 - Post #306 Ardent is not on the Away Team.
Day 2 - Post #499 Ardent breaks the Marc/Schmidty tie with Captain's vote. Goes against his vote earlier in the day. Was he spawn here? Did he sacrifice a fellow spawn?
Night 2 - We don't know what the Queen did this night, but Vince reveals in Post #665 that he was attacked (not spawn attacked) in the Brig. Likely candidates are Dubb and Raiders based on current evidence.
Day 3 - Post #623 Ardent announces he is the miracle worker. Did he fake this role? It is possible he is spawnling at this point if attacked the night before. If telling the truth, then there was zero opportunity for anyone to be infected. No one has ever claimed to be the miracle worker to contradict his claim.
Day 3 - Post #740 Ardent votes for liftoff
Night 3 - No longer options for spawn attack

So the potential for AE to be spawn comes during a Night #2 attack. That is about all I can come up with at this point. His actions on Day 3 seem to be crew-favorable, but if he was attacked without his knowledge he could have been working against us after this. He would have been a good candidate for an attack on Night #2 for the Queen if Vince was unavailable (in the Brig) and Raiders was already spawn.


Edited to update post numbers

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

just for reference, i presented my points and voted already...from here on out im mostly going to play with ardent and watch others react...i think kwhit would be the best captain as most people trust him 100%, where ardent has his doubters...

Were getting a free shot at a potential spawn...with the water we have, i say take it...we didnt get our lynch today because he took it...thats opens him up, so lets see where the road winds

This looks an awful lot like a first stone to me.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

So the potential for AE to be spawn comes during a Night #2 attack. That is about all I can come up with at this point. His actions on Day 3 seem to be crew-favorable, but if he was attacked without his knowledge he could have been working against us after this. He would have been a good candidate for an attack on Night #2 for the Queen if Vince was unavailable (in the Brig) and Raiders was already spawn.

I appreciate your research, but I'm simply not spawn.

[Poli]

To be honest, I'm a little surprised it's being considered that I lynched. I'm sure barkeep will be surprised as well.

What I don't get is what I would have to gain as a spawn by using this "duke" role now. I get rid of ONE survivor, meanwhile, what 9-10 of us are still around? Come on.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

To be honest, I'm a little surprised it's being considered that I lynched. I'm sure barkeep will be surprised as well.

What I don't get is what I would have to gain as a spawn by using this "duke" role now. I get rid of ONE survivor, meanwhile, what 9-10 of us are still around? Come on.

My thinking is water...and you expected us to waste another killing RA...thats two days of wasted water, which will severely even the numbers for the spawn

[Poli]

Not at all.

[hoopsguy]

Ardent, I only see that one window for you to have been spawn. I think I could conceivably make as compelling a case for about half the crew. I think you screwed the pooch today, but I don't think that you are spawn.

One of these times you will be bluffing on the HatTrick stuff

I'll dig up that Night #1 post number - dropped xxx in for everything while I was looking them up.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

This looks an awful lot like a first stone to me.

I made the public ones...if im not mistaken bug mis-sent a Pm voting for you long before i even got back

[Poli]

You clearly know you're in the wrong, which is why you won't take the bet. I'm done wasting my time with you.

Welcome to my ignore list.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

I made the public ones...if im not mistaken bug mis-sent a Pm voting for you long before i even got back

Or maybe I was joking around

[Poli]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Ardent, I only see that one window for you to have been spawn. I think I could conceivably make as compelling a case for about half the crew. I think you screwed the pooch today, but I don't think that you are spawn.

One of these times you will be bluffing on the HatTrick stuff

I'll dig up that Night #1 post number - dropped xxx in for everything while I was looking them up.

No way will I ever bluff on the hattrick stuff. That's my golden ticket. I ain't spending 20 bucks for a lie. Ever.

That's essentially how you can tell I'm being honest.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Or maybe I was joking around

Blast you bugger!

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

You clearly know you're in the wrong, which is why you won't take the bet. I'm done wasting my time with you.

Welcome to my ignore list.

Seriously?? holy crap ardent...im not sure your spawn, but even if your good i think kwhit is a better captain and its one less mouth....if you ignore listed me then ouch

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Blast you bugger!

Or maybe I wasn't

[Poli]

Ah, barkeep. Bet you didn't expect this.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Or maybe I wasn't

Gotta love a Bug.

[Poli]

Heh, I was only joking when I told barkeep I wanted to order vince to drug blade into a coma, but now I wish blade was.

At least he's a lot more quiet in the ignore list.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Heh, I was only joking when I told barkeep I wanted to order vince to drug blade into a coma, but now I wish blade was.

At least he's a lot more quiet in the ignore list.

Wow, regardless of whether or not he can hear this, god damn thats a prick move...me presenting points on him blocks me...wow, thats not having a gamemanship

[Passacaglia]

I think these games need a little more role-play, and a little less real life.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I think these games need a little more role-play, and a little less real life.

Nah, I'm fine. He'll exit the ignore list once this game is over. I'm just tired of blade right now and his antics. He's trying to get me lynched, when he knows full well I'm a survivor.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I think these games need a little more role-play, and a little less real life.

I agree. 100%. I am not pointing fingures here at anyone, but there are two things in a game:
1) Questioning the wisdom of a player's actions
2) Questioning the wisdom of a player

It seems like some have fallen into the second category. I admit I'm not 100% up to date on board politics but please make sure your points fall into the first category and not the second. This seems to have been a game that everyone's enjoyed, and many have been very involved in, and I would like to see it stay fun and not sour.

[Poli]

Plus, I'm not tempted to respond to his posts. Bonus, in my opinion.


edit to remove a "mean" word. I mean no ill will to Blade.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

It seems like some have fallen into the second category. I admit I'm not 100% up to date on board politics but please make sure your points fall into the first category and not the second. This seems to have been a game that everyone's enjoyed, and many have been very involved in, and I would like to see it stay fun and not sour.

If I have, I apologize. It irritates me to no end to have someone totally ignore facts and instead try to goad me.

[saldana]

ok ardent, you said you wanted to save ra, i wanna know why....what value does he have to the crew at this point...if he died, we would have a new nurse tommorow and would get as many as 3 short scans tommorow. i screwed up and only made one scan today, and as a result am willing to die from dehydration...you screwed us intentionally and want us all to just say "ooops". no offense Raiders, but you are a liability to this ship right now, and since ardent thought it was so important to save you, he traded his life for yours, imo.

[Poli]

I'm going to just answer why. Because if he knows inside info, we're fine. If he is cured tomorrow and doesn't know anything, at least he can scan. Bottom line is, he would have died a villager tonight, just as Jeff did.

There's also a part of me that felt Jeff was the final piece to the spawn puzzle. If you guys kill me tonight, you're just making the odds better for them.

There's no sense in killing another survivor/villager.

[RealDeal]

There is a chance that AE could have been converted, and he would have been a prime target early in the game. I doubt that he has been, but his actions today were strange. He had no more info than any of the rest of us. He both in word and in deed did everything possible to keep us from getting another scanner. And, if he were spawn at this point, we would be screwed.

At this point, we have to make some progress and start getting the water usage rate down. I put the odds of AE being spawn at 20-25%. If it was an innocent mistake he made today, it was a huge one. Basically, the majority of the team had a plan and he went Rambo on a guy. Jeff clearly had some possibility of being a spawn, but AE didn't have any more info than any of the rest of us in making this decision. There were much better spawn candidates than Jeff.

Even if he is a survivor, I'm uncomfortable knowing that AE could do this again at any time.

Killing RA, we would have made definite progress today. Instead, today was an unmitigated disaster. As such, despite my hunch that AE is survivor, I voted yes to barkeep.

[Poli]

RD, that at least makes more sense than some of the other things I've seen. Listen, if it helps, I won't use the power again. I promise. Let's not kill a survivor/villager.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

If I have, I apologize. It irritates me to no end to have someone totally ignore facts and instead try to goad me.

I know I'm not the target of this, but I'll own up to have been wrong in my last statement about you concering RA. I'm back on the ardent train now, and back to thinking we should have got Blade yesterday.

[hoopsguy]

Barkeep, will the mutiny votes be published tomorrow or do you only list the final decision?

[RealDeal]

And you've got to be abolsutely fucking with me if we are going to waste another day trying to revive RA.

[Poli]

Fine, don't. Don't kill me, though. I would even go as far as ORDERING Vince not to.

[hoopsguy]

If the votes are hidden, then I don't know that we gain information from this vote. Except that Blade is obviously in favor of a new captain.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Barkeep, will the mutiny votes be published tomorrow or do you only list the final decision?

Mutiny votes are secret, as the mutiny is all hush hush. I wll publish the final tally, but that's it.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

If the votes are hidden, then I don't know that we gain information from this vote. Except that Blade is obviously in favor of a new captain.

For clarification, im in favor or kwhit due to his absolute trust status..not just anyone...if it was someone like lathum at #2 ardent would get my no vote

[Poli]

I think it's clear I'm a goner. It's clearly the wrong decision.

[KWhit]

Wow. Some crazy happenings tonight.

My vote is sent.