LXXVII Spawn III: Game Over (See Post 4507) - Page 41

The Jackal · 07-10-2008, 11:14 AM

Cap'n, there anyone you specifically want me to heal after security or should I use my own discretion?

Barkeep49 · 07-10-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

BK - can LSG and I research at night?

No.

Barkeep49 · 07-10-2008, 11:16 AM

So proud to have his new overalls and tools, clap skips down to the engine room to join in on repairs.

Alan T · 07-10-2008, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Cap'n, there anyone you specifically want me to heal after security or should I use my own discretion?

I would say use your discretion. Path should be able to sleep in the brig again and be healed up tonight. I am hoping bullet will heal you today since I assume you can't heal yourself. So pick whom you think would be the best choice.

Alan T · 07-10-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

So proud to have his new overalls and tools, clap skips down to the engine room to join in on repairs.

How cute

claphamsa · 07-10-2008, 11:18 AM

I can skip!

WOOT!

jeheinz72 · 07-10-2008, 11:20 AM

How many AP does it take to skip?

LoneStarGirl · 07-10-2008, 11:21 AM

BK can we research right now? I really need something to do...and nobody is giong on a mission anytime soon it looks like

Alan T · 07-10-2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

BK can we research right now? I really need something to do...and nobody is giong on a mission anytime soon it looks like

If you research now, then you won't be able to go on the away team that we need you for today... We actually really need you and packerfanatic today for these missions which is the reason why I pushed for packer to not be lynched yesterday..

Barkeep49 · 07-10-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

BK can we research right now? I really need something to do...and nobody is giong on a mission anytime soon it looks like

Yes you can research now.

LoneStarGirl · 07-10-2008, 11:25 AM

oh, got it Alant, one or the other... so we can research after we lift off. That works for me

do we have to wait on telle and co to get online to mission?

Barkeep49 · 07-10-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

How many AP does it take to skip?

Check your PMs. Not everyone has the skipping ability and I don't want to divulge that info publicly.

path12 · 07-10-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

u need a hobby

It looks as if he's found one.

Alan T · 07-10-2008, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

oh, got it Alant, one or the other... so we can research after we lift off. That works for me

do we have to wait on telle and co to get online to mission?

Yeah, Telle and Hoops have to put in their order to lead an away team for which they will choose whom they want to go with them. Once they put that in, you'll automatically go out with them on the mission.

PurdueBrad · 07-10-2008, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

u need a hobby

Claph, those songs take a good three minutes of my life to create!

path12 · 07-10-2008, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

I was trying to not butt my nose into another one of Path's decisions.. but my thought on this is with Hoops being needed to lead an away team today, that we don't scan him and instead scan Marc Vaughn (as having each doctor scan the other early on might be important).. That way we can include Marc in the brig tonight too and protect him... but like I said I kind of wanted to keep my nose out of Path's decision for a second day

I do not want to scan anyone who is going out later because it will invalidate the scan with the chance of infection. My choice would be to either scan after the mission or scan somebody else.

path12 · 07-10-2008, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

SO what was schmidty's results on me? beyond of course still being alive so I'm obviously not a full blown spawn?

Orders going in for the day.

Did you get no PM at all about the whole thing?

Alan T · 07-10-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by path12

Did you get no PM at all about the whole thing?

I didn't get one when you scanned me. I believe only you get one, so in this case we have to wait for Schmidty to get online.. but the fact Render and Schmidty didn't blow up is probably a good sign,

path12 · 07-10-2008, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

I didn't get one when you scanned me. I believe only you get one, so in this case we have to wait for Schmidty to get online.. but the fact Render and Schmidty didn't blow up is probably a good sign,

Cool, I wasn't sure if you got one or not. I guess that does sound like the duplicant then, but we'll wait for Schmidty.

The Jackal · 07-10-2008, 11:39 AM

Ill wait for the away missions before I use my heal for the day - I'm off for the train. I'll try to keep up as best I can and Ill make sure to get a vote in before my poker game.

hoopsguy · 07-10-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mccollins

Hoops danced all around this in complex ways yesterday.

This is complete bull.

I'll make it easy for you - you post the statement you want me to say for an empath and I'll say it.

Still a long way from caught up, so this may not apply, but this argument is so wrong I felt compelled to post/cross-post/whatever.

jeheinz72 · 07-10-2008, 11:47 AM

Here Schmidty...midty...midty....Here Schmidty...midty...midty...

mccollins · 07-10-2008, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

BK can we research right now? I really need something to do...and nobody is giong on a mission anytime soon it looks like

DON'T!!!

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Away Teams
Each day all officers and the Slave Master may lead an away team and there may be more than 1 away team each day (The Slave Master may only lead an away team made up completely of slaves). A crew member, if asked, must go on away team if they have the action points to do so.

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Scientist (1 AP per cycle)

In addition, please stop talking about how you can't do anything. You can help discuss matters and be a part of the process. All I can do is train 1 person per day, but it's important. You go on away missions and increase their odds, it's very important.

mccollins · 07-10-2008, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Cap'n, there anyone you specifically want me to heal after security or should I use my own discretion?

Perhaps PackerFanatic before he goes on an away mission.

Full list of Wounded:
Path12 - sleeping well in the brig
Jackal
PackerFanatic
Chubby

Alan T · 07-10-2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

This is complete bull.

I'll make it easy for you - you post the statement you want me to say for an empath and I'll say it.

Still a long way from caught up, so this may not apply, but this argument is so wrong I felt compelled to post/cross-post/whatever.

You're just catching up obviously so you might come to the same conclusion.. If you really want to work with the empath, you should just in the course of normal conversation word things in a way that it is not forced or compelled.. or if you have already done so, just quote it for him to find easier.

KWhit · 07-10-2008, 11:52 AM

Telle or Hoops -

One of you guys can take a scientist and 3 slaves (my recommendation) and go out on a mining mission.

Still waiting on BK to say that I've completed the planning for the next missions.

LoneStarGirl · 07-10-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mccollins

DON'T!!!

In addition, please stop talking about how you can't do anything. You can help discuss matters and be a part of the process. All I can do is train 1 person per day, but it's important. You go on away missions and increase their odds, it's very important.

yes but I can't go on missions until the people in charge of missions actually get online and request I go with them... so I cannot do anything until I am asked to do so. you can train who you want when you want

mccollins · 07-10-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

This is complete bull.

I'll make it easy for you - you post the statement you want me to say for an empath and I'll say it.

Still a long way from caught up, so this may not apply, but this argument is so wrong I felt compelled to post/cross-post/whatever.

Call it what you want and maybe it wasn't 'complex', but here's the conversation of posts I was referring to for everyone to decide for themselves:

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Last thought of the night - if there is an empath in the game they may be able to go after one of me, Telle, or RendeR tomorrow.

I've got the most posts out of the three of us, so perhaps it is worth considering that as an option instead of scanning me. But if people want to dredge through posts by the three of us, that might give a way to vouch for one person and semi-vouch for another, rather than leaving us in a guessing game between two candidates.

Obviously we can re-evaluate this in the context of the morning news, but I figure this might be a viable strategy that has yet to be discussed.

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

I'd actually be pretty cool with the empath option, mainly because I don't want hoops the potential spawn eating our seer. But I'm also content to trust path's instincts on this one.

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Heh, I almost posted "so I don't take out the seer when he scans me as spawn" in my post there, but then decided someone wouldn't have their sarcasm meters on and it would be more trouble than it was worth. So thanks for opening the door for me to actually post it now.

Also, if the empath wants to scan that statement to show that I'm lying when I say that I'll potentially take out the seer when scanned (I would not, villagers don't hurt the seer when scanned, duh) that would be A-OK with me (if allowed, of course).

mccollins · 07-10-2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

yes but I can't go on missions until the people in charge of missions actually get online and request I go with them... so I cannot do anything until I am asked to do so. you can train who you want when you want

You don't have to PM anything to go on the away mission they'll just take you.

Seriously, the detective work in this game is more important than many of our abilities.

hoopsguy · 07-10-2008, 11:57 AM

"If I am scanned by Path today, either before or after my away trip, he will survive the experience"

Does that work? It allows for the possibility that I could be infected on the away trip but pretty clearly states that I'm not spawn without using the magic words "I am not spawn"

LoneStarGirl · 07-10-2008, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mccollins

You don't have to PM anything to go on the away mission they'll just take you.

Seriously, the detective work in this game is more important than many of our abilities.

A pm was never mentioned... I know how the missions work, but you implied that I had a lot to contribute when in fact I really dont have anything to contribute until I am asked to go on a mission.

And ask anybody who has played with me previously, my detective work is not so hot

hoopsguy · 07-10-2008, 12:00 PM

Mccollins, I have a ton of posts in this game. I've been accused of both claiming I'm a villager too much (heinz) and of avoiding the topic of being spawn (you). I'm guessing there would be ample opportunities for someone to find something good in my posts.

If I was afraid of the empath, I probably would not have suggested it as a strategy for today. No one else had for the first 1700 or so posts, so why would I (as a spawn) have any incentive to nudge the villagers in that direction?

Marc Vaughan · 07-10-2008, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

A bevvy of post-breakfast activity commences. First Tyrith, Purdue, & heinz all being work on repairing the engines. At the same time, mccollins asks Marc Vaughn to accompany him for some training.

Cool

Happy to be trained

path12 · 07-10-2008, 12:00 PM

As for statements by me I really need to work today so I can't go back and search right now, but I know I've made comments stating my role earlier in the game. I also believe that there have been no spawn spending the night in the brig through last night. That might work.

hoopsguy · 07-10-2008, 12:01 PM

I'm OK with leading an away mission, if that is what is best for our group today.

Alan, if your PM told you that you trust your officers, then why are you pushing to have two of them exposed to the spawn today?

PurdueBrad · 07-10-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Mccollins, I have a ton of posts in this game. I've been accused of both claiming I'm a villager too much (heinz) and of avoiding the topic of being spawn (you). I'm guessing there would be ample opportunities for someone to find something good in my posts.

If I was afraid of the empath, I probably would not have suggested it as a strategy for today. No one else had for the first 1700 or so posts, so why would I (as a spawn) have any incentive to nudge the villagers in that direction?

Hoops, due to your near lynch yesterday, you shared your trust/distrust list. How has it changed in light of those of us that did/did not vote for you and given everything you've just caught up on?

The only reason I ask is that you put out a fairly extensive list compared to the basic feelings that others threw out or hinted at.

PurdueBrad · 07-10-2008, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I'm OK with leading an away mission, if that is what is best for our group today.

Alan, if your PM told you that you trust your officers, then why are you pushing to have two of them exposed to the spawn today?

I think he clarifies later and said that it points to one officer but I may be wrong.

path12 · 07-10-2008, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

A pm was never mentioned... I know how the missions work, but you implied that I had a lot to contribute when in fact I really dont have anything to contribute until I am asked to go on a mission.

And ask anybody who has played with me previously, my detective work is not so hot

LSG can be rather impatient. I love that about her.

Marc Vaughan · 07-10-2008, 12:04 PM

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hoopsguy
Heh, I almost posted "so I don't take out the seer when he scans me as spawn" in my post there, but then decided someone wouldn't have their sarcasm meters on and it would be more trouble than it was worth. So thanks for opening the door for me to actually post it now.

Also, if the empath wants to scan that statement to show that I'm lying when I say that I'll potentially take out the seer when scanned (I would not, villagers don't hurt the seer when scanned, duh) that would be A-OK with me (if allowed, of course).

No point scanning that statement as it proves only whether you believed peoples sarcasm meters were set high or not ... nothing else.

(which in itself makes me suspicious of you ... or is that paranoid?

)

hoopsguy · 07-10-2008, 12:05 PM

For what it is worth, I was "lurking around various parts of the ship through-out the night." while following another player.

I don't know of any reason that person should have been in a position to be moving about various parts of the ship, but I'll start looking at private roles to see if something matches up with it.

Alan T · 07-10-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I'm OK with leading an away mission, if that is what is best for our group today.

Alan, if your PM told you that you trust your officers, then why are you pushing to have two of them exposed to the spawn today?

You might not have caught up to it, but there was further discussion later regarding that where I clarified my PM stated (paraphrasing here), that I feel trust from someone among the officers... Thats it though, so don't know who. It might be kwhit or render which doesn't help me much since I already believe they are ok.. or it might be you or Telle which would help me more.. I said I didn't really want to see a lynch of any of the officers today (but of course I dont want to see a lynch at all today) because of it..

That is completely seperate from the away mission.. We -have- to have the away missions.. and officers have to lead them. I had hoped our second ensign would be trained by now to lead the second team, but he wasn't.. So I hope you are up to the task today.

If/when you do come up good from the empath or doctors or whatnot, I am sure we will find your interrogation invaluable once we get into space

KWhit · 07-10-2008, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I think he clarifies later and said that it points to one officer but I may be wrong.

That's right.

It sounds to me like an absolute trust type of message - and from Alan's post earlier, that would indicate that one of the officers is in the trust with him.

hoopsguy · 07-10-2008, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

No point scanning that statement as it proves only whether you believed peoples sarcasm meters were set high or not ... nothing else.

(which in itself makes me suspicious of you ... or is that paranoid?

)

Check Post #1920 and see if that works for you. No mentions of sarcasm meters to be found.

LoneStarGirl · 07-10-2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

LSG can be rather impatient. I love that about her.

Path is one of my favorites

Marc Vaughan · 07-10-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

I was trying to not butt my nose into another one of Path's decisions.. but my thought on this is with Hoops being needed to lead an away team today, that we don't scan him and instead scan Marc Vaughn (as having each doctor scan the other early on might be important).. That way we can include Marc in the brig tonight too and protect him... but like I said I kind of wanted to keep my nose out of Path's decision for a second day

I like the idea of being nice and protected ... so count me in for being scanned if possible.

Marc Vaughan · 07-10-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Check Post #1920 and see if that works for you. No mentions of sarcasm meters to be found.

Just being paranoid - but if you're both spawn wouldn't you both survive anyway?

(bear in mind that I'm a newbie to this game and the overlying tone of paranoia in it is having me rotating wildly in circles)

KWhit · 07-10-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

"If I am scanned by Path today, either before or after my away trip, he will survive the experience"

Does that work? It allows for the possibility that I could be infected on the away trip but pretty clearly states that I'm not spawn without using the magic words "I am not spawn"

Actually, I'd rather these checks happen during the night phase so we can see if people are the Unaware Spawn or not.

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Unaware Spawn During the day, is unaware of being a Spawn (and may not communicate with other Spawn), but will not seem to be a Spawn when tested by other players. At night, assumes normal Spawn powers.

So the only real way to clear someone is to have them make a statement during the night phase and test it then.

Is that possible?

hoopsguy · 07-10-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

Just being paranoid - but if you're both spawn wouldn't you both survive anyway?

(bear in mind that I'm a newbie to this game and the overlying tone of paranoia in it is having me rotating wildly in circles)

I can't speak to that - I have no idea if Path is or is not a Spawn.

You can test that as well - if I am a Spawn then I would likely have knowledge of the Spawn. Almost certainly if I was a starting spawn, since the Spawn Council know of each other (right?). I personally think the statement I gave you is the best one, but it is your call. I'm sure I'll inadvertantly throw other stuff out as I'm making arguments.

KWhit · 07-10-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

"If I am scanned by Path today, either before or after my away trip, he will survive the experience"

Does that work? It allows for the possibility that I could be infected on the away trip but pretty clearly states that I'm not spawn without using the magic words "I am not spawn"

I'm not sure how that would work. Let's say that you're clean now but you go out on the away trip and are infected. How would the result of MV 's empathing this statement come back? True? False?

What if he did it later after you were infected. Would it show false? Or would it be true because you believed it to be true at the time?

hoopsguy · 07-10-2008, 12:18 PM

Also, I'm a little concerned about going on an away mission and then being cleared by the Empath. I'll do what is good for the team, but if I go on the away mission and then am scanned by a doctor then I 100% get to stay on the human side. If I go on the away mission and then am scanned by the empath then I could be a spawnling, believe it when I say I'm human (because I wouldn't know) and end up biting us later in the game based on perceived trust.

07-10-2008, 11:18 AM	#2006
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	I can skip! WOOT! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-10-2008, 12:00 PM	#2034
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	As for statements by me I really need to work today so I can't go back and search right now, but I know I've made comments stating my role earlier in the game. I also believe that there have been no spawn spending the night in the brig through last night. That might work. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-10-2008, 11:14 AM	#2001
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Cap'n, there anyone you specifically want me to heal after security or should I use my own discretion?

07-10-2008, 11:16 AM	#2003
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	So proud to have his new overalls and tools, clap skips down to the engine room to join in on repairs.

07-10-2008, 11:20 AM	#2007
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	How many AP does it take to skip?

07-10-2008, 11:21 AM	#2008
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	BK can we research right now? I really need something to do...and nobody is giong on a mission anytime soon it looks like

07-10-2008, 11:25 AM	#2011
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	oh, got it Alant, one or the other... so we can research after we lift off. That works for me do we have to wait on telle and co to get online to mission?

07-10-2008, 11:39 AM	#2020
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Ill wait for the away missions before I use my heal for the day - I'm off for the train. I'll try to keep up as best I can and Ill make sure to get a vote in before my poker game.

07-10-2008, 11:47 AM	#2022
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	Here Schmidty...midty...midty....Here Schmidty...midty...midty...

07-10-2008, 11:52 AM	#2026
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Telle or Hoops - One of you guys can take a scientist and 3 slaves (my recommendation) and go out on a mining mission. Still waiting on BK to say that I've completed the planning for the next missions.

07-10-2008, 11:57 AM	#2030
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	"If I am scanned by Path today, either before or after my away trip, he will survive the experience" Does that work? It allows for the possibility that I could be infected on the away trip but pretty clearly states that I'm not spawn without using the magic words "I am not spawn"

07-10-2008, 12:00 PM	#2032
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Mccollins, I have a ton of posts in this game. I've been accused of both claiming I'm a villager too much (heinz) and of avoiding the topic of being spawn (you). I'm guessing there would be ample opportunities for someone to find something good in my posts. If I was afraid of the empath, I probably would not have suggested it as a strategy for today. No one else had for the first 1700 or so posts, so why would I (as a spawn) have any incentive to nudge the villagers in that direction?

07-10-2008, 12:01 PM	#2035
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'm OK with leading an away mission, if that is what is best for our group today. Alan, if your PM told you that you trust your officers, then why are you pushing to have two of them exposed to the spawn today?

07-10-2008, 12:05 PM	#2040
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	For what it is worth, I was "lurking around various parts of the ship through-out the night." while following another player. I don't know of any reason that person should have been in a position to be moving about various parts of the ship, but I'll start looking at private roles to see if something matches up with it.

07-10-2008, 12:18 PM	#2050
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Also, I'm a little concerned about going on an away mission and then being cleared by the Empath. I'll do what is good for the team, but if I go on the away mission and then am scanned by a doctor then I 100% get to stay on the human side. If I go on the away mission and then am scanned by the empath then I could be a spawnling, believe it when I say I'm human (because I wouldn't know) and end up biting us later in the game based on perceived trust.

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