Official 2015 College Football Week 7 thread

[General Mike]

Originally Posted by miked

Well, this got interesting. RU has rallied back and is now tied 52-52 with IU. Kyle Federico has missed an XP and had one blocked, and RU failed a pair of 2-pt conversions.

Oh man that was nuts. My heart can't take many more of those.

And now I have to watch the Mets.

[JPhillips]

I really feel for the punter. That's going to take a long time to get over.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

I love that gif more than just about anything.

lmao...yeah, pretty solid response from that kid.

[Julio Riddols]

I think we could put up 40 on Indiana with a random group from this board and a week of practice.

[tarcone]

That was crazy. Just an unbelievable ending.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by miked

I mean, they've made 2 conference championships in 3 years and are sending folks to the NFL, what more do you want? They've lost some pretty fluky games this year. You want to see dumpster fire, try Rutgers.

Are you really seriously counting "two" conference championship appearances in 3 years when one of those is a 7-7 season? A year where their bowl eligibility was in question as I recall.

Before this season, the past five years they're 39-28 (aside from last season's fluke they're 28-25 over that span) and 2-3 in bowls, 1-4 vs Georgia.

Add in this season and .500 is here during that span. In other words, aside from last season's magic, the program is mired in meh.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by digamma

Thanks for supporting the team. Thumbs up!

I've been withe 'em since Pepper F'n Rodgers, who was at least entertaining. And when you literally couldn't give away tickets (okay, that's been most of my lifetime, granted). I also knew when it was time for Bill Lewis to go .. same as it's time for CPJ to get his oversized ego & undersized ability the fuck out.

If that's too plain for some weak-willed GT folks, so be it. The number of fucks I give who that bothers approaches a negative number. At least I give enough of a damn not to accept mediocrity as their potential. At this point anyone NOT on board with cleaning out this sinking ship is part of the damned problem just as much as the football staff.

[cmp]

Maybe I should just be done with sports. Still can't believe that Michigan finish. So depressing.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by cmp

Maybe I should just be done with sports. Still can't believe that Michigan finish. So depressing.

It wasn't Michigan's year anyway. Before you get too depressed just think where Michigan football was a year ago.

Is Pat Haden faking fainting spells now so people give him a little bit of sympathy?

[tarcone]

On ESPN, there is a video of Lazard from Iowa St. Going 74 yards f a TD. The title of the video says "Iowa goes 74 yards for a touchdown"

I hate ESPN

[jbergey22]

I am sure the Punter had extra instructions "kick the ball out of bounds" or "kick the ball high" which took his focus from just catching the damn ball. Very tough for Michigan fans to stomach I am sure but like a previous poster said the future is very bright with Harbaugh running things now. From last year to all but beating a top 10 team this early in the Harbaugh regime is a very positive sign.

[booradley]

Originally Posted by cmp

Maybe I should just be done with sports. Still can't believe that Michigan finish. So depressing.

I broke my jaw it hit the ground so hard

[cmp]

If it wasn't Michigan State it wouldn't be as bad. I know as Michigan fans were supposed to say the OSU game matters more but I don't personally know any Buckeye fans. But I know a bunch of State fans who will be sure to remind me of this finish til next October.

[tarcone]

Losing to little brother is the worst.

[MrBug708]

I'm sure it was legit when Haden collapsed, but it certainly makes it easier for him to step down as AD for health reasons

[JonInMiddleGA]

Georgia with a 9-6 win over Missouri that seems to have been like the SEC version of Wake vs BC.

And I have to give Florida a lot of credit for their effort against LSU.

[JonInMiddleGA]

VERY interesting to see one of the local TV sportscaster (Fred Kalil, now at Ch 46, for those who know Atlanta) pretty much call out CPJ just now after the game story. Said hefty buyout or not it might be time to consider doing just that if things don't turn around AND referenced the old "don't point the finger, point the thumb" adage about taking responsibility but "apparently Paul Johnson doesn't live by that credo".

For a consistently blase Atlanta TV sports media (hell, virtually non-existent in the past few years), that was shocking. I don't know that I've ever heard anyone from Atlanta TV call out anybody like that for any reason.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Georgia with a 9-6 win over Missouri that seems to have been like the SEC version of Wake vs BC.

And I have to give Florida a lot of credit for their effort against LSU.

Mizzou returns an INT right off the bat to the 1 yard line and can't score a TD. Pretty much sums up our pathetic offense this season.

What a job by our defense though.. feel for those guys. Not that Georgia has a slouch defense.. but we would be getting KILLED if it wasn't for our defense as we can't even convert a 3rd down.

[Solecismic]

Coach Nickerson should have had Rifleman take a knee rather than handing off to Salvucci.

There are days like this when I vow never to see another college game.

[Eaglesfan27]

That was brutal to watch.

[bhlloy]

Utah trying to make the Michigan punter feel better. That was bizarre

[Kodos]

Only IU could blow a 25-point second half lead like they did. I just finished watching. I feel sick. The strange thing is, I had a bad feeling about the punt that started off the landslide. Sure enough, it goes over the punter's head and is returned for a TD. This is the kind of loss that could submarine the rest of our season.

[Kodos]

Holy shit. Just saw the MSU win. Awesome! Makes me feel a bit better after a horrid, horrid Indiana loss.

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Holy shit. Just saw the MSU win. Awesome! Makes me feel a bit better after a horrid, horrid Indiana loss.

When you give up over 500 yards a game, you don't deserve a single win in my opinion. Its incredible how bad the Indiana defense is.

[tarcone]

When do the playoff rankings come out?

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

When you give up over 500 yards a game, you don't deserve a single win in my opinion. Its incredible how bad the Indiana defense is.

They give up way too many big plays.

[General Mike]

Originally Posted by Kodos

They give up way too many big plays.

Turnovers and not being able to give the defense a breather late in the game didn't help

[bob]

Top 12 basically play off over the last 5-6 weeks to see who gets in the top 4. Not including any conference championship games:

1. Ohio State (Mich St.)
2. Baylor (TCU)
3. Utah (-)
4. TCU (Baylor)
5. LSU (Alabama)
6. Clemson (FSU)
7. Michigan State (Ohio St)
8. Alabama (LSU)
9. Florida State (Clemson)
10. Stanford (Notre Dame)
11. Notre Dame (Stanford)
12. Iowa (-)

[bob]

Originally Posted by bob

Top 12 basically play off over the last 5-6 weeks to see who gets in the top 4. Not including any conference championship games:

1. Ohio State (Mich St.)
2. Baylor (TCU)
3. Utah (-)
4. TCU (Baylor)
5. LSU (Alabama)
6. Clemson (FSU)
7. Michigan State (Ohio St)
8. Alabama (LSU)
9. Florida State (Clemson)
10. Stanford (Notre Dame)
11. Notre Dame (Stanford)
12. Iowa (-)

Note that with more upsets, Florida, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., and Texas A&M are hovering outside that, also with games against each other and the list above. Some good games ahead.

[bob]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

VERY interesting to see one of the local TV sportscaster (Fred Kalil, now at Ch 46, for those who know Atlanta) pretty much call out CPJ just now after the game story. Said hefty buyout or not it might be time to consider doing just that if things don't turn around AND referenced the old "don't point the finger, point the thumb" adage about taking responsibility but "apparently Paul Johnson doesn't live by that credo".

For a consistently blase Atlanta TV sports media (hell, virtually non-existent in the past few years), that was shocking. I don't know that I've ever heard anyone from Atlanta TV call out anybody like that for any reason.

I took my daughter to the game yesterday (one advantage of the debacle this season was 1st row seats for 20 bucks). I've been following the team since I was freshman in '97. I've never seen a more "couldn't care less" crowd. Zero buzz on campus at all.

I'm not sure what to think of Tech as a program at this point. They can't afford to fire him due to the extension for at least a few seasons. And when he does leave, they will likely suck for a few years during the personnel transition as long as the new coach doesn't stick with that offense.

Realistically I'm not sure what the ceiling really should be for Tech. But I do know that the fans would likely be more forgiving if CPJ wasn't such an unlikable asshole that just knows he's right all the time. Reminds me of Charlie Weis.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by bob

I took my daughter to the game yesterday (one advantage of the debacle this season was 1st row seats for 20 bucks). I've been following the team since I was freshman in '97. I've never seen a more "couldn't care less" crowd. Zero buzz on campus at all.

My last game in person (and my son's first) was the great Gardner-Webb near debacle a few years ago. Honestly, I haven't had the slightest desire to be at a game in person since. Granted, outside of HS football, I've never been big on the actual game experience pretty much anywhere so that's not entirely just a Tech thing.

Realistically I'm not sure what the ceiling really should be for Tech. But I do know that the fans would likely be more forgiving if CPJ wasn't such an unlikable asshole that just knows he's right all the time. Reminds me of Charlie Weis.

Amen to the latter part for sure. As for the former, I don't entirely know either. What I do know is that if you accept a ceiling of basically 7-8 wins avg over 4 years then, well, how much point is there? Given modern scheduling with 1-2 wins over I-AA teams plus 12 game seasons, plus bowl games, that's virtually the definition of mediocrity. You're playing .500 ball against peers and can still win 7.

[CU Tiger]

This guy gets paid to write this...
College Football News Rankings: Week 7 No. 1-128 | College Football News

[JonInMiddleGA]

http://onlineathens.com/sports/colle...schott-offense

I know the game was ugly but the tone in the local coverage here was pretty rough.

Here's the headline to that story I linked
Malcolm Mitchell helps UGA overcome 'No Schott' offense

Among the interesting lines

In a working offense and with an SEC-level quarterback, Mitchell’s speed and skills would stretch the field in the passing game and lead to glory and touchdowns.

Instead, he’s stuck doing the dirty work while Brian Schottenheimer calls for Greyson Lambert to make quick throws around the line of scrimmage.

It was almost No Schott in Sanford — Part Two.

and

It’s seemingly always field goals.

And it’s Mitchell that wills Georgia into position.

It makes you miss Mike Bobo. It makes you miss Aaron Murray.

“(Aaron) could tell me before the play where he was going to throw the ball, where I was going to be open and I’d be like, OK,” Mitchell said. “He’d go out there and do it.”

That’s not what the Georgia offense has now.


While that may not seem like much, it's among the harshest critiques I've ever seen in the Athens paper. Local media knows which side its bread is buttered on so for them to go after Schottenheimer that hard I can't help but wonder if he's already on his way out the door.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

This guy gets paid to write this...
College Football News Rankings: Week 7 No. 1-128 | College Football News

I know it's all about clicks, but how can you rank a team #1 and start the justification with this:

This is hardly the best-looking team in college football

[bob]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

As for the former, I don't entirely know either. What I do know is that if you accept a ceiling of basically 7-8 wins avg over 4 years then, well, how much point is there? Given modern scheduling with 1-2 wins over I-AA teams plus 12 game seasons, plus bowl games, that's virtually the definition of mediocrity. You're playing .500 ball against peers and can still win 7.

I think in a 4 year cycle give their schedule, 10, 9, 9, and 7 - 8 wins should be the measuring stick. Maybe you catch lightning and pull an 11 win season like last year, and maybe you have a bad year and drop to 5 - 6 once a decade, but the ACC isn't exactly a murderers row.

I just hope neither Mercer or Georgia Southern beat Tech next year.

[BillJasper]

Just like Florida State last year, I feel you're the champs and No.1 until someone knocks you off or you have a significant shift in talent.

For me, Ohio State is still No. 1.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by bob

I think in a 4 year cycle give their schedule, 10, 9, 9, and 7 - 8 wins should be the measuring stick. Maybe you catch lightning and pull an 11 win season like last year, and maybe you have a bad year and drop to 5 - 6 once a decade, but the ACC isn't exactly a murderers row.

I tend to agree. Problem there might be the fact that the 35-36 wins in 4 years standard you just set (and that was pretty much what I was thinking initially) represents a mark that has only been done twce since the middle of Bobby Dodd's tenure.

O'Leary had 35 wins from 98-01, the Gailey/Johnson combo did it '06-'09 ... and that's it. Every other 4 year sequence comes up short, and in fairness I'll note that includes the years around national championship in 1990.

Also worth noting here IMO is this little tidbit: 98-01 stretch saw them go 3-1 against Georgia, 06-09 they were 1-3. In my lifetime, they're 13-36 against them for a .265 winning percentage.

Maybe that's really the question here: is it fair or reasonable to expect anything more than them being in the largely meaningless large mass of so-so programs/teams? And every graduating class beating Georgia only once? If that's the case -- and the history and the numbers suggest that it might be the reality -- then I'm just not sure how much emotional investment that's worth to me at this stage of my life. Maybe they just simply belong in the same category with a lot of other things now, a casual water cooler topic and an occasional "that's cool, good for them".

I just hope neither Mercer or Georgia Southern beat Tech next year.

Georgia Southern on their schedule will pretty much always worry me I think.

[bob]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Maybe that's really the question here: is it fair or reasonable to expect anything more than them being in the largely meaningless large mass of so-so programs/teams? And every graduating class beating Georgia only once? If that's the case -- and the history and the numbers suggest that it might be the reality -- then I'm just not sure how much emotional investment that's worth to me at this stage of my life. Maybe they just simply belong in the same category with a lot of other things now, a casual water cooler topic and an occasional "that's cool, good for them".

I'll admit when I started being a GT fan likely deludes my thoughts on things. Took me 5 years to get through Tech with co-oping, so 98-01 was right in my college years and the beginning of my fan hood.

Tech basketball has largely moved to "who cares" status in the Atlanta area, and football isn't too far behind.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Maybe that's really the question here: is it fair or reasonable to expect anything more than them being in the largely meaningless large mass of so-so programs/teams?

As an outsider, that's where I'd put them. They're a Saturday filler team.

(And I generally like GT, would root for them in most matchups, and would put them on the fairly short list of places I'd like to see my son go [interested in aerospace eng.])

[bronconick]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

This guy gets paid to write this...
College Football News Rankings: Week 7 No. 1-128 | College Football News

It's no ESPN's FPI, though. They have USC 6th, Ole Miss 9th, and Tennessee 13th.

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by bronconick

It's no ESPN's FPI, though. They have USC 6th, Ole Miss 9th, and Tennessee 13th.

That formula really heavily weights the bottles of tequila drank by the coaching staff on the way back from away games though, to be fair

[Suicane75]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

This guy gets paid to write this...
College Football News Rankings: Week 7 No. 1-128 | College Football News

Don't really see much wrong with what he wrote. Ole Miss can't be that high based on their 2 loses, but other than that he's looking at it pretty logically.

I'd much rather a guy did it that way than just say, well Ohio State had the best talent coming into the year so let's just leave them at #1 until they lose, even if a bunch of other teams look better actually playing the game.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

Don't really see much wrong with what he wrote. Ole Miss can't be that high based on their 2 loses, but other than that he's looking at it pretty logically.

I'd much rather a guy did it that way than just say, well Ohio State had the best talent coming into the year so let's just leave them at #1 until they lose, even if a bunch of other teams look better actually playing the game.

WAY too much weight put on head to head results. Trying to make sense of head to head is how you end up with Texas as the 21st best team in the country.

[Suicane75]

Yeah, it gets silly at the end, but I think generally he gets the top half of the top 25 better than most others. And when Texas loses again it wont matter. Though I can the point of Texas' loses being against stellar competition, it's still 4 loses.

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by General Mike

Turnovers and not being able to give the defense a breather late in the game didn't help

Congrats on the win. Your team didn't give up when it would have been easy to.

[Logan]

Rutgers' Leonte Carroo has 21 receptions, 472 yards, and 9 TDs in 13 quarters of action.

[General Mike]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Congrats on the win. Your team didn't give up when it would have been easy to.

they showed a heck of a lot more heart then Scarlet Nation did, myself included.

[MacroGuru]

Heck of a week for Utah schools...

BYU beats Cinci with a strong 4th QTR

USU lays the smack down on Boise State

and

Utah remains undefeated and takes the ASU monkey off their back.

As much as it pains me to say this, Utah is having a special season so far.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

Yeah, it gets silly at the end, but I think generally he gets the top half of the top 25 better than most others. And when Texas loses again it wont matter. Though I can the point of Texas' loses being against stellar competition, it's still 4 loses.

I can't even give it that much credit.
Ole Miss is ranked 7th because they beat Bama who has beat...whom exactly? Oh yeah. UGA.

Arkansas is ranked 29th at 2-4 with a loss to Toledo...pretty much invalidates all other arguments at this point.

UGA is 31st at 5-2


Houston is 45th at 6-0

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Logan

Rutgers' Leonte Carroo has 21 receptions, 472 yards, and 9 TDs in 13 quarters of action.

What's the inside read on that arrest/suspension? Was it a misunderstanding/something like him trying to break up a fight, or did he really assault a girl and they're letting him play because the coach needs W's?