NFL Wildcard Thread - Page 4

Grover · 01-07-2012, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Inexplicably? I think Pink is a lot closer to Joan Jett than Faith Hill is. Musically it made sense, if not from a marketing standpoint.

I wouldn't consider either of them close to Joan Jett stylistically. If they wanted to go outside of the marketing factor, using someone like Karen O of the Yeah Yeah Yeahs would have made more sense. Of course, Faith Hill is nothing more than a marketing ploy.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-07-2012, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Grover

Of course, Faith Hill is nothing more than a marketing ploy.

Well duh

EagleFan · 01-07-2012, 08:28 PM

Is it my imagination or could Suh be called for hands to the face on almost every play?

EagleFan · 01-07-2012, 08:29 PM

We're in the middle of a good game, why are we debating the opening theme song? She's smoking hot, sit back and enjoy that show. Now that it's done, enjoy the game.

MikeVic · 01-07-2012, 08:32 PM

What a BS defensive penalty.

DougW · 01-07-2012, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

What a BS defensive penalty.

Aargh, it was. "I wish I played in this era, that'd been a vacation ..." haha.

Very happy with that half. Offense seemed to be in control of things when they had the ball, and imo, the Lions D looked better than the Saints D. Certainly in that last 'stand'.

Gooo Lions !!

Danny · 01-07-2012, 08:49 PM

Amazing how an NFL WR could not catch that ball.

Izulde · 01-07-2012, 09:02 PM

Saints got a huge ass gift on the 3rd down.

Crapshoot · 01-07-2012, 09:02 PM

That was a pretty awful call. Home cooking?

Danny · 01-07-2012, 09:03 PM

Refs killing the Lions today

Crapshoot · 01-07-2012, 09:09 PM

I feel for the Lions. The Saints are probably a better team anyway, but the refs have given them more than one play.

Danny · 01-07-2012, 09:09 PM

And Scwartz blew it by not challenging. Now the Saints score a TD.

FBPro · 01-07-2012, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

We're in the middle of a good game, why are we debating the opening theme song? She's smoking hot, sit back and enjoy that show. Now that it's done, enjoy the game.

CONCUR!!

Danny · 01-07-2012, 09:18 PM

They should just throw it to Megatron three straight times for 10+ yards. He probably catches at least one of the three for a first down every time

Crapshoot · 01-07-2012, 09:18 PM

Calvin Johnson is... amazing. No words.

Danny · 01-07-2012, 09:23 PM

That is the right call, not enough evidence to overturn the call

Passacaglia · 01-07-2012, 09:24 PM

If Brees puts his hands and the ball above the pile on 4th and inches, then pulls it back with his arms, should he still get credit for forward progress?

Desnudo · 01-07-2012, 09:26 PM

I don't know if he's a good coach, but Schwartz definitely gives all the signs of being a complete tool. Like Chet from weird science.

DougW · 01-07-2012, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

If Brees puts his hands and the ball above the pile on 4th and inches, then pulls it back with his arms, should he still get credit for forward progress?

Ya know, this game aside, I don't think that should be 'forward progress'. I mean, I understand - if a guy is running and the defense pushes him back 10 yards .. sure, forward progress .. but the hands forward, then pulls them back is the same to me as willingly running backwards.

Crapshoot · 01-07-2012, 09:32 PM

Are the Lions incapable of generating any pass rush at all? Brees has all day.

Danny · 01-07-2012, 09:35 PM

Why did the Lions lineman rush up the field instead of protecting the line of scrimmage

DougW · 01-07-2012, 09:40 PM

Saints running game, and 2 Eric Berry drops - keys to the game.

Tigercat · 01-07-2012, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DougW

Ya know, this game aside, I don't think that should be 'forward progress'. I mean, I understand - if a guy is running and the defense pushes him back 10 yards .. sure, forward progress .. but the hands forward, then pulls them back is the same to me as willingly running backwards.

Normally, reaching forward like that, your arms will get some decent contact with defending players, so that will give you forward contact halted upon contact. But, in this case, if he touched the defenders with his extended arms he barely did so at all. Regardless, it looks like he landed cradling the ball right at the first down line. I wouldn't categorize that as one of the handful of calls that the Lions have had go against them tonight.

Matthean · 01-07-2012, 09:44 PM

Lions still need to invest in OL and DBs.

Tigercat · 01-07-2012, 09:47 PM

Lions could have gotten a penalty for contact to the head on Stafford INT it looks like. I don't think the lack of calls for Detroit is what is going to cost them the game, but it hasn't helped for sure.

Another thing that has hurt them: if you are going to play against a healthy Pierre Thomas, you better tackle well.

Passacaglia · 01-07-2012, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Lions still need to invest in OL and DBs.

Yep -- maybe putting some DBs in on that last play would have helped.

MizzouRah · 01-07-2012, 09:51 PM

I'd like to see the Saints in the SB this season.. I just love watching Brees play.

Matthean · 01-07-2012, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Yep -- maybe putting some DBs in on that last play would have helped.

The problems being, Detroit doesn't invest in DBs in the draft and has horrid luck with OL in the draft.

Honolulu_Blue · 01-07-2012, 09:54 PM

Inability to tackle and intercept doomed the Lions. Also didn't take advantage of their turnovers.

Tigercat · 01-07-2012, 09:55 PM

I think this Calvin Johnson might just pay some of his bills by playing football.

MizzouRah · 01-07-2012, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat

I think this Calvin Johnson might just pay some of his bills by playing football.

He's definitely in a league by himself.

Passacaglia · 01-07-2012, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

The problems being, Detroit doesn't invest in DBs in the draft and has horrid luck with OL in the draft.

Yeah, but I'm willing to give them a pass, considering they've improved the DL, LBs, QB, RBs (when healthy) and WRs in the past few seasons. Just have to make DB and OL next.

Scoobz0202 · 01-07-2012, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

He's definitely in a league by himself.

Yea. I see people saying he is definitely top five, probably top three. I don't think there is a probably about it. I've always felt he was the best in the league. He's just so damn good.

Julio Riddols · 01-07-2012, 10:05 PM

Green Bay / New Orleans NFC Championship game, please.

ColtCrazy · 01-07-2012, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Green Bay / New Orleans NFC Championship game, please.

+1 Would almost even consider buying a scalped ticket for that game. Could be amazing.

jbergey22 · 01-07-2012, 10:10 PM

Some NFL QBs look unstoppable while some look really bad. The gap between the top 5 and the bottom 5 qbs in the NFL is ridiculous.

DougW · 01-07-2012, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Green Bay / New Orleans NFC Championship game, please.

Would be a great matchup.

Matthean · 01-07-2012, 10:12 PM

Saints doing the FU score?

Ajaxab · 01-07-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Green Bay / New Orleans NFC Championship game, please.

I actually hope not. I'm not a fan of the way the league has turned to become such a passing league. It's swung way too far over to favoring passing offenses. It's almost become a joke.

I hope the Niners can do something to buck the trend next week, but I'm not optimistic.

jbergey22 · 01-07-2012, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ajaxab

I actually hope not. I'm not a fan of the way the league has turned to become such a passing league. It's swung way too far over to favoring passing offenses. It's almost become a joke.

I hope the Niners can do something to buck the trend next week, but I'm not optimistic.

Brees seems to be unstoppable in dome stadiums. He seems simply outstanding outdoors. We will see.

Matthean · 01-07-2012, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Brees seems to be unstoppable in dome stadiums. He seems simply outstanding outdoors. We will see.

Let's see how unstoppable he is playing during January in Lambeau.

Mustang · 01-07-2012, 10:19 PM

???

Didn't Brees take a knee with 4th and goal. Shouldn't the Lions have had the ball back with like 35 seconds left?

Ajaxab · 01-07-2012, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Let's see how unstoppable he is playing during January in Lambeau.

Flynn and Stafford didn't have too much trouble the last time a game was played in January at Lambeau.

Matthean · 01-07-2012, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ajaxab

Flynn and Stafford didn't have too much trouble the last time a game was played in January at Lambeau.

Weather was still decent. We are talking about a game that is two weeks away, and the real winter doesn't hit northern states until around mid January.

Matthean · 01-07-2012, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

I don't know if he's a good coach, but Schwartz definitely gives all the signs of being a complete tool. Like Chet from weird science.

All I'll say is he is a defensive based coach who has been with his team for three years and has given up 90 points in the last two game. For all of the DL talent they have, you can absolutely run on them.

Grover · 01-07-2012, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

???

Didn't Brees take a knee with 4th and goal. Shouldn't the Lions have had the ball back with like 35 seconds left?

Glad I'm not the only one who thought this.

SackAttack · 01-07-2012, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

???

Didn't Brees take a knee with 4th and goal. Shouldn't the Lions have had the ball back with like 35 seconds left?

I counted 3 kneeldowns. I thought it was 1st and goal before the first one?

sterlingice · 01-07-2012, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ajaxab

I actually hope not. I'm not a fan of the way the league has turned to become such a passing league. It's swung way too far over to favoring passing offenses. It's almost become a joke

It's all cyclical. It was stupid in the early 2000s when everything was all "good defense stops good offenses" so you just need to be the Ravens with good D and a running game and a passing team couldn't do anything either. The league is best when there's balance. Defenses will adjust and it'll swing back again.

SI

Mustang · 01-07-2012, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

I counted 3 kneeldowns. I thought it was 1st and goal before the first one?

3 kneeldowns however, there was a run before the 2 minute warning.

1-12-DET 12 (2:44) C.Ivory left guard to DET 2 for 10 yards (N.Suh; K.Vanden Bosch).
Detroit Lions vs New Orleans Saints at Mercedes-Benz Superdome
Two-Minute Warning
2-2-DET 2 (2:00) D.Brees kneels to DET 3 for -1 yards.
3-3-DET 3 (1:20) D.Brees kneels to DET 4 for -1 yards.
4-4-DET 4 (:38) D.Brees kneels to DET 5 for -1 yards.

sabotai · 01-07-2012, 11:43 PM

1st and 12 at the 12?

EDIT: Ah, there was a penalty pushing it back to the 12.

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Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	They should just throw it to Megatron three straight times for 10+ yards. He probably catches at least one of the three for a first down every time

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Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Calvin Johnson is... amazing. No words.

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Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	That is the right call, not enough evidence to overturn the call

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