NFL Week 5 Discussion Thread: Randy Moss Traded to the Vikings - Page 4

Ksyrup · 10-09-2010, 07:38 AM

This was in the mainstream before Deadspin released any evidence. But they gave the same story back in February when Sturger told them about it, and not a single media person attempted to follow-up on it to see if there was something to it.

Like I said, I find the timing very odd.

Passacaglia · 10-09-2010, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

This was in the mainstream before Deadspin released any evidence. But they gave the same story back in February when Sturger told them about it, and not a single media person attempted to follow-up on it to see if there was something to it.

Like I said, I find the timing very odd.

She didn't give out the voicemail recordings or show the pictures then -- wouldn't any follow-up have led to a dead end there, since back then the story relied completely on her word?

Matthean · 10-09-2010, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

She didn't give out the voicemail recordings or show the pictures then -- wouldn't any follow-up have led to a dead end there, since back then the story relied completely on her word?

My guess is that she was holding back the info(Deadspin seems to be heavily pushing her to putting this info out) and when the Vikings were 1-2 it was no big deal. Now that Moss enters the equation and the Vikings seem frisky again, Deadspin probably pushes her to release the extra info.

Ksyrup · 10-09-2010, 10:15 AM

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She didn't give out the voicemail recordings or show the pictures then -- wouldn't any follow-up have led to a dead end there, since back then the story relied completely on her word?

And your point is...? Since when does that stop anyone from reporting things as news?

I'm sure Tiger Woods would have appreciated the same journalistic integrity back when it was "news" that a Japanese website had created an animation of what likely happened the night he crashed his car.

JPhillips · 10-09-2010, 10:22 AM

I'm not sure why we should be upset with the decision to hold off on the story until there was some concrete evidence.

Ksyrup · 10-09-2010, 10:26 AM

I'm not upset, I just find it curious because lack of evidence never seems to stop other stories from being broken when they are first learned. More than anything, I'm just finding it hard to believe this is news now when it was first known back in February. Corroborating evidence is just a luxury.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 10-09-2010, 10:31 AM

ESPN pretty much controls the national discussion on sports, and when they want to protect one of their guys they will.

Ksyrup · 10-09-2010, 10:34 AM

Oh, and just in case we're not entirely clear about reporting things without evidence, what just happens to be in the article about the Sturger matter? This:

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Later Friday, Deadspin reported that Favre also pursued two female massage therapists who worked part-time for the team, according to one of the women.

Isn't that the same "evidence" Deadspin offered about the Sturger matter back in February that nobody bothered to report back then?

GrantDawg · 10-09-2010, 12:18 PM

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Oh, and just in case we're not entirely clear about reporting things without evidence, what just happens to be in the article about the Sturger matter? This:

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Isn't that the same "evidence" Deadspin offered about the Sturger matter back in February that nobody bothered to report back then?
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It is Obama's fault. At least that Rush Limbuagh said.

larrymcg421 · 10-09-2010, 12:34 PM

From Twitter:

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We will only know if that picture of Favre's cock is real if it throws a stupid interception on 3rd down.

jbergey22 · 10-09-2010, 12:44 PM

Who gives a shit? Obviously the female(s) that recieved the "dong" pic didnt think it was a huge deal at the time. Why should it become a big deal now? The NFL is going overboard for even looking into this stupidity.

jbergey22 · 10-09-2010, 12:50 PM

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Yep. Checking into sexual harassment allegations is stupidity. Sending pictures of your cock to someone unsolicited is no big deal. You may want to go back to betting on college football games based on a magazines predictions back in June.

As for "the female" involved, she clearly stated her initial reason for keeping it quiet was to not lose the sideline gig with the Jets. Farve should get suspended over this if there's enough credible evidence.

Please "cite" the sexual harrassment allegations. And what the fuck does betting on college football have to do with this thread you trolling moron?

Vince, Pt. II · 10-09-2010, 12:50 PM

Didn't someone mention that she did a spread for Maxim, and it'll hit the shelves within the next week or two as well? Good timing...

jbergey22 · 10-09-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HiFiRevival

Sending someone a pic of your cock unsolicited, and you ask for where the sexual harassment allegations come in? Wow.

Yeah, could you please cite where she made a sexual harassment allegation? Not difficult it is?

Big difference between being a "creep" and having sexual harrassment allegations. As far as I know he wasnt breaking any laws if she took as "creepy".

Matthean · 10-09-2010, 01:07 PM

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Sending someone a pic of your cock unsolicited, and you ask for where the sexual harassment allegations come in? Wow.

If there is a chance for a sexual harassment case against Brett Favre, don't you think she would be tapping that pipeline as fast as possible?

larrymcg421 · 10-09-2010, 01:12 PM

NFL finds out a player sent a picture of his cock to a sideline reporter. And you're saying they shouldn't look into this? Are you crazy?

So let's say we go with your theory that it doesn't matter because the chick didn't mind the pictures. Let's say it happens to another reporter. Imagine how excited the lawyer will get when he finds out that the NFL let another instance of this go without even investigating it. Open, shut case. It won't even go to trial. NFL will be settling out of court for a massive sum.

jbergey22 · 10-09-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

NFL finds out a player sent a picture of his cock to a sideline reporter. And you're saying they shouldn't look into this? Are you crazy?

So let's say we go with your theory that it doesn't matter because the chick didn't mind the pictures. Let's say it happens to another reporter. Imagine how excited the lawyer will get when he finds out that the NFL let another instance of this go without even investigating it. Open, shut case. It won't even go to trial. NFL will be settling out of court for a massive sum.

Why is the NFL responsible for what every player in the NFL does? Was she on duty when these messages were sent? It is a lot to do about nothing if the chick didnt think it was a big deal. If an NFL player grabs some chicks ass in the bar and someone else doesnt think its right does the NFL have to look into this as well? Its pretty damn harmless to me unless the chick thinks there is an issue. Just because Deadspin offered to pay her big $ to report the story it suddenly becomes an issue.

Im sorry I just dont see this being news worthy as Im sure it happens quite often and doesnt get reported.

Izulde · 10-09-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Why is the NFL responsible for what every player in the NFL does? Was she on duty when these messages were sent? It is a lot to do about nothing if the chick didnt think it was a big deal. If an NFL player grabs some chicks ass in the bar and someone else doesnt think its right does the NFL have to look into this as well? Its pretty damn harmless to me unless the chick thinks there is an issue. Just because Deadspin offered to pay her big $ to report the story it suddenly becomes an issue.

Im sorry I just dont see this being news worthy as Im sure it happens quite often and doesnt get reported.

Seriously? You don't see how the behaviors of the NFL's employees reflect on the NFL and that they have every right to investigate these instances in order to help protect their own image?

Also, there's a degree of difference between a little grabass and sending your unsolicited dick picture to a girl.

jbergey22 · 10-09-2010, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

Seriously? You don't see how the behaviors of the NFL's employees reflect on the NFL and that they have every right to investigate these instances in order to help protect their own image?

Also, there's a degree of difference between a little grabass and sending your unsolicited dick picture to a girl.

Oh I understand. I just think its a slippery slope they are going down by looking into things like this.

Where does the amount of control they have over players stop? I dont see how a private text to someone deserves national attention(or their investigation) ESPECIALLY since this lady wasnt going to say anything about until the $ comes in.

Desnudo · 10-09-2010, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Oh I understand. I just think its a slippery slope they are going down by looking into things like this.

Where does the amount of control they have over players stop? I dont see how a private text to someone deserves national attention(or their investigation) ESPECIALLY since this lady wasnt going to say anything about until the $ comes in.

She was a junior employee of the company Favre worked at. 100% sexual harrassment if it was unsolicited, no questions asked.

He should be fined for wearing Crocs anyway.

I love the Favre protectionism. No one seems to care that he's married.

JS19 · 10-09-2010, 02:37 PM

Haven't been following this story all too closely, but is it 100% Favre? I thought I remember reading/hearing somewhere that this very well can be a hoax.

molson · 10-09-2010, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

This was in the mainstream before Deadspin released any evidence. But they gave the same story back in February when Sturger told them about it, and not a single media person attempted to follow-up on it to see if there was something to it.

Like I said, I find the timing very odd.

I really don't think it's ESPN's job to play criminal or civil case investigator.

I got into this in the other thread but I think we're naive when it comes to the sex lives of pro athletes. ESPN isn't going to report on every piece of info they have about an athlete being pervy. I'm sure that reporters there know all kinds of crazy stuff that would shock us.

The second the NFL looks into it though, it's a story, and its getting ESPN coverage now.

I can't believe so many people expect ESPN to lead sportscenter with a story like, "a female sideline reporter tells us that Brett Favre sent her a picture of his cock." I don't think that's what they're selling. "Up next on sportsenter, LaBron James a 3-way in Vegas and snorts coke of a stripper's ass."

As for what happened - I find it pretty hard to believe that Favre is sending random cock pictures to women that aren't expecting them. "I'd like to see you tonight" is usually something you say to someone you're already having some kind of fling with.

stevew · 10-10-2010, 10:02 AM

On my way to Bills/Jags. Scored tix for 22bucks off of StubHub. Is this the least appealing game of the 2010 season?

stevew · 10-10-2010, 10:06 AM

If Kathy Bates and Drew Carey made a celeb porno tape, it would be of comparable appeal.

Passacaglia · 10-10-2010, 10:16 AM

Eh. I chose to record the Bears/Panthers game instead of the Chief/Colts game.

Lathum · 10-10-2010, 10:20 AM

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On my way to Bills/Jags. Scored tix for 22bucks off of StubHub. Is this the least appealing game of the 2010 season?

I had to pick up Garrard for my fantasy team this week thanks to the sieve that is the Bears O-Line. Go Jags!

stevew · 10-10-2010, 11:20 AM

I'm starting Fitzpatrick in a league.

Suburban Rhythm · 10-10-2010, 11:28 AM

Roethlisberger gets 4 games, based on no charges filed, but his second offense. What does Favre get with photographic evidence?

And poor Goodell, how does he go about confirming it is Favre in the picture? Maybe call in Madden as an expert witness? Drawing X's and O's all over Favre's cock.

mauchow · 10-10-2010, 11:30 AM

Favre won't get suspended; I just cannot see it happening..

Thomkal · 10-10-2010, 12:04 PM

Chiefs try on an onside kick to start the game and fail

Honolulu_Blue · 10-10-2010, 12:05 PM

The Fox digital scoreboard already had the Rams winning 10-0 before kick-off.

The Rams then tried an on-side kick and the Lions recovered. Perhaps the Rams were trying to put a nail in the coffin by going up 17-0.

Coffee Warlord · 10-10-2010, 12:07 PM

Bears find an early running game.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-10-2010, 12:07 PM

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Chiefs try on an onside kick to start the game and fail

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The Rams then tried an on-side kick and the Lions recovered. Perhaps the Rams were trying to put a nail in the coffin by going up 17-0.

Conspiracy!

Thomkal · 10-10-2010, 12:09 PM

Chiefs hold strong on a goal-line stand and only give up a FG.

Chubby · 10-10-2010, 12:09 PM

I love the stupid blackout rules, because yes, by not allowing me to see the Bills game in Syracuse it's going to make me buy tickets...

Thomkal · 10-10-2010, 12:10 PM

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Conspiracy!

Looks like some teams didn't get the memo! My Cards might as well try that against the Saints later today too

MizzouRah · 10-10-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Chiefs try on an onside kick to start the game and fail

Rams too.. haha.. must be a Missouri thing.

Thomkal · 10-10-2010, 12:13 PM

All I can say is I'm glad that we get two different games here in Myrtle Beach-cause I don't think I can stomach a Jimmy Claussen vs Todd Collins "extravaganza"

JS19 · 10-10-2010, 12:20 PM

I'll never understand why the Giants refuse to address their special teams needs year after year.

Thomkal · 10-10-2010, 12:23 PM

Forte has run for 100+ already and 2 TD?

Chubby · 10-10-2010, 12:24 PM

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Forte has run for 100+ already and 2 TD?

yup

Thomkal · 10-10-2010, 12:24 PM

Chiefs were going for it on 4 and 2 at about the 10 yard line after driving down the field, but now have called a timeout. Oh those gambling Chiefs

Thomkal · 10-10-2010, 12:26 PM

Chiefs go for the 1st down and...fail. Not a good choice of pass targets by Cassel

Coffee Warlord · 10-10-2010, 12:29 PM

Awesome play by Peppers. Tipped a pass straight up, fell down, and managed to dive forward to catch it for the INT.

Coffee Warlord · 10-10-2010, 12:31 PM

And dola, it's a good thing Forte broke a couple runs, because out of the few passes Collins has thrown, he's had zero time to throw. Looks like he's a dead man if he has to drop back.

Suicane75 · 10-10-2010, 12:32 PM

Absolutely shitbrained of the Chiefs to leave points on the board. 4th and inches I can understand but 4th and 2? Pretty moronic if you ask me, and nobody did.

Oh, and that could just as easily be my cock as it could Bret Favres. (It's not)

10-09-2010, 07:38 AM	#151
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	This was in the mainstream before Deadspin released any evidence. But they gave the same story back in February when Sturger told them about it, and not a single media person attempted to follow-up on it to see if there was something to it. Like I said, I find the timing very odd. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-09-2010, 10:22 AM	#155
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	I'm not sure why we should be upset with the decision to hold off on the story until there was some concrete evidence. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

10-09-2010, 10:26 AM	#156
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I'm not upset, I just find it curious because lack of evidence never seems to stop other stories from being broken when they are first learned. More than anything, I'm just finding it hard to believe this is news now when it was first known back in February. Corroborating evidence is just a luxury. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-09-2010, 10:31 AM	#157
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	ESPN pretty much controls the national discussion on sports, and when they want to protect one of their guys they will. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

10-09-2010, 12:44 PM	#161
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Who gives a shit? Obviously the female(s) that recieved the "dong" pic didnt think it was a huge deal at the time. Why should it become a big deal now? The NFL is going overboard for even looking into this stupidity. Last edited by jbergey22 : 10-09-2010 at 12:47 PM.

10-09-2010, 12:50 PM	#164
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Didn't someone mention that she did a spread for Maxim, and it'll hit the shelves within the next week or two as well? Good timing...

10-09-2010, 01:12 PM	#169
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	NFL finds out a player sent a picture of his cock to a sideline reporter. And you're saying they shouldn't look into this? Are you crazy? So let's say we go with your theory that it doesn't matter because the chick didn't mind the pictures. Let's say it happens to another reporter. Imagine how excited the lawyer will get when he finds out that the NFL let another instance of this go without even investigating it. Open, shut case. It won't even go to trial. NFL will be settling out of court for a massive sum. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

10-09-2010, 02:37 PM	#175
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	Haven't been following this story all too closely, but is it 100% Favre? I thought I remember reading/hearing somewhere that this very well can be a hoax.

10-10-2010, 10:02 AM	#177
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	On my way to Bills/Jags. Scored tix for 22bucks off of StubHub. Is this the least appealing game of the 2010 season?

10-10-2010, 10:06 AM	#178
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	If Kathy Bates and Drew Carey made a celeb porno tape, it would be of comparable appeal.

10-10-2010, 10:16 AM	#179
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Eh. I chose to record the Bears/Panthers game instead of the Chief/Colts game.

10-10-2010, 11:20 AM	#181
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I'm starting Fitzpatrick in a league.

10-10-2010, 11:28 AM	#182
Suburban Rhythm Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pittsburgh	Roethlisberger gets 4 games, based on no charges filed, but his second offense. What does Favre get with photographic evidence? And poor Goodell, how does he go about confirming it is Favre in the picture? Maybe call in Madden as an expert witness? Drawing X's and O's all over Favre's cock. __________________ "Do you guys play fast tempos with odd time signatures?" "Yeah" "Cool!!"

10-10-2010, 11:30 AM	#183
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Favre won't get suspended; I just cannot see it happening..

10-10-2010, 12:04 PM	#184
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Chiefs try on an onside kick to start the game and fail

10-10-2010, 12:05 PM	#185
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	The Fox digital scoreboard already had the Rams winning 10-0 before kick-off. The Rams then tried an on-side kick and the Lions recovered. Perhaps the Rams were trying to put a nail in the coffin by going up 17-0. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

10-10-2010, 12:07 PM	#186
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Bears find an early running game.

10-10-2010, 12:09 PM	#188
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Chiefs hold strong on a goal-line stand and only give up a FG.

10-10-2010, 12:09 PM	#189
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	I love the stupid blackout rules, because yes, by not allowing me to see the Bills game in Syracuse it's going to make me buy tickets...

10-10-2010, 12:13 PM	#192
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	All I can say is I'm glad that we get two different games here in Myrtle Beach-cause I don't think I can stomach a Jimmy Claussen vs Todd Collins "extravaganza"

10-10-2010, 12:20 PM	#193
JS19 College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NY	I'll never understand why the Giants refuse to address their special teams needs year after year.

10-10-2010, 12:23 PM	#194
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Forte has run for 100+ already and 2 TD?

10-10-2010, 12:24 PM	#196
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Chiefs were going for it on 4 and 2 at about the 10 yard line after driving down the field, but now have called a timeout. Oh those gambling Chiefs

10-10-2010, 12:26 PM	#197
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Chiefs go for the 1st down and...fail. Not a good choice of pass targets by Cassel

10-10-2010, 12:29 PM	#198
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Awesome play by Peppers. Tipped a pass straight up, fell down, and managed to dive forward to catch it for the INT. Last edited by Coffee Warlord : 10-10-2010 at 12:29 PM.

10-10-2010, 12:31 PM	#199
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	And dola, it's a good thing Forte broke a couple runs, because out of the few passes Collins has thrown, he's had zero time to throw. Looks like he's a dead man if he has to drop back. Last edited by Coffee Warlord : 10-10-2010 at 12:32 PM.

10-10-2010, 12:32 PM	#200
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Absolutely shitbrained of the Chiefs to leave points on the board. 4th and inches I can understand but 4th and 2? Pretty moronic if you ask me, and nobody did. Oh, and that could just as easily be my cock as it could Bret Favres. (It's not)

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