NFL Week 13 - NFL's Most Relevant Franchises Collide! - Page 4

Danny · 12-06-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Aside from the fumbles? That's a pretty big part of it.

He's also inconsistent and doesn't catch the ball well.

Steven Jackson, Chris Johnson, and some other backs see a lot of 8 man fronts as well and they don't have Peterson's problems. He's a solid back that can have a huge game or break a long run at any time, but there's at least 5 backs I'd take over him, if not more.

Chris Johnson, Steven Jackson, Justin Fargas, Michael Bush and Darren McFadden?

jbergey22 · 12-06-2009, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Aside from the fumbles? That's a pretty big part of it.

He's also inconsistent and doesn't catch the ball well.

Steven Jackson, Chris Johnson, and some other backs see a lot of 8 man fronts as well and they don't have Peterson's problems. He's a solid back that can have a huge game or break a long run at any time, but there's at least 5 backs I'd take over him, if not more.

You think Jackson sees a lot of 8 man fronts when they are down 20 most of the game?

OK so Jackson, Johnson and who else would you take Im VERY curious?

dervack · 12-06-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

5-7 with wins over the Seahawks, Lions, Browns, and Rams.

And the Steelers.

jbergey22 · 12-06-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat

Most great RBs tend to be overrated to some degree in their prime, AD definitely isn't the best in the NFL this year if you factor in ball security. I just don't think Minn is run blocking all that well this year compared to last. (Pass blocking has been great at times though.)

well said

Atocep · 12-06-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

You think Jackson sees a lot of 8 man fronts when they are down 20 most of the game?

OK so Jackson, Johnson and who else would you take Im VERY curious?

Off the top of my head Jones-Drew and DeAngelo Williams. Ray Rice is creeping up there as well. I'd be tempted.

Abe Sargent · 12-06-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

lol

aside from his fumbles he is still the most dominating back in the nfl. 8 men in the box.

That's like saying that aside from Jake Delhomme's propensity to throw picks, he's an amazing QB

jbergey22 · 12-06-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Off the top of my head Jones-Drew and DeAngelo Williams. Ray Rice is creeping up there as well. I'd be tempted.

Are you sure you arent talking about fantasy football? C'mon Ray Rice and Deangelo over the RB who has more yards over his first 3 years than any back in history other than Dickerson.

Atocep · 12-06-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Are you sure you arent talking about fantasy football? C'mon Ray Rice and Deangelo over the RB who has more yards over his first 3 years than any back in history other than Dickerson.

Yes, over the guy who the last 3 years has DVOAs of 20, 22, 5 and and DYARs of 13, 17, 4.

I'll take a consistent RB that's a threat in the passing game and doesn't fumble over an all or nothing RB with fumble problems.

Radii · 12-06-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat

AD definitely isn't the best in the NFL this year if you happen to have turned on a Titans game at any point in the season.

FYP!

jbergey22 · 12-06-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Yes, over the guy who the last 3 years has DVOAs of 20, 22, 5 and and DYARs of 13, 17, 4.

I'll take a consistent RB that's a threat in the passing game and doesn't fumble over an all or nothing RB with fumble problems.

You do that. I'll take AP.

FYI Deangelo isnt a threat catching the ball either. Hes probably the back most similiar to AP in the game actually. They are both home run hitters. IMO AP is quite a bit better at getting the tough yardage though.

Radii · 12-06-2009, 10:09 PM

Um... if anyone shared this in the past and I missed it, I apologize. If not, where the hell have you all been? This is AMAZING.

Radii · 12-06-2009, 10:12 PM

dola:

“If I approach you from the front, it’s like, wow, that dude is pretty serious. Then I walk away and you’re like, damn, he likes to party. With two Rs.”

AMAZING.

jbergey22 · 12-06-2009, 10:16 PM

What a complete disaster this game was. Get two lineman injured and the middle linebacker who is critical to their defense. I dont think this result could have been any worse.

RainMaker · 12-06-2009, 10:17 PM

That was a gruesome injury. Hope it's not as bad as it looked.

Radii · 12-06-2009, 10:18 PM

wow, that looked awful.

Abe Sargent · 12-06-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

What a complete disaster this game was. Get two lineman injured and the middle linebacker who is critical to their defense. I dont think this result could have been any worse.

Coulda lost Favre

jbergey22 · 12-06-2009, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Coulda lost Favre

Thanks for the positive spin

Thomkal · 12-07-2009, 06:14 AM

Well my Cards are doing their Jekyll and Hyde act against this season. Will the real Cardinals defense please stand up? Obviously a big win for us against a very hot team after that demoralizing end to the Titans game last week. Hope Warner's hip is okay as he was limping pretty bad at the end.

Went from a showdown for first place game against SF next week to a possible clinching of the division with a win and a Seattle loss I believe. Not too shabby there Cardinals.

Butter · 12-07-2009, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Lions 63 - Bengals 3

Sorry that reverse ironic jinx thing didn't work out for you.

gstelmack · 12-07-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

I am pretty sure the rules for PI would say that was classic pass interference with the defender not looking back for the ball.

PI is a call I've never understood. Heck, last week's Pats/Saints game Watson was open for a TD up the middle, defender just jumped up at and in him without ever looking back, both faceguarding and making contact long before the ball got there, no call. Seems to be at least two of these per game lately.

Kodos · 12-07-2009, 09:57 AM

Between Miami shocking the Pats and Florida getting killed, it was a pretty good football weekend for me.

larrymcg421 · 12-07-2009, 02:33 PM

Just got back from a trip to Miami for the Pats game. What a wonderful experience. I have to admit I was worried when they went down 14-0 early, but they fought back and made key plays when it mattered (4th down stops, End zone INT's). Loved the atmosphere of the stadium.

Kodos · 12-07-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Adrian Peterson may be the most overrated player in the NFL.

They were talking about him breaking 3,000 yards this season. Yeah, not so much...

Abe Sargent · 12-07-2009, 08:06 PM

No MNF comments yet, eh?

mauchow · 12-07-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

PI is a call I've never understood. Heck, last week's Pats/Saints game Watson was open for a TD up the middle, defender just jumped up at and in him without ever looking back, both faceguarding and making contact long before the ball got there, no call. Seems to be at least two of these per game lately.

And then in the MNF a PI call that wasn't a PI call.

I swear, the refs get the PI call wrong the most in the NFL(aside from missing a hold on almost every play...)

mauchow · 12-07-2009, 08:18 PM

Another PI.

3rd one of the game, I think.

And then a stupid pick by Flacco, his second.

Abe Sargent · 12-07-2009, 08:20 PM

Sloppy first quarter. I'ma rooting for the Pack in this one.

jbergey22 · 12-07-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

They were talking about him breaking 3,000 yards this season. Yeah, not so much...

I heard 2000 was a strong possibility Im not sure who said 3000. It might have something to do with Favre having such a good season that they dont need to run Peterson 30 times a game this year. AP is the same back as he has always been nothing has changed except they added a solid QB.

jbergey22 · 12-07-2009, 08:29 PM

Ravens offense has really went downhill after a great start to the season.

DeToxRox · 12-07-2009, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Sorry that reverse ironic jinx thing didn't work out for you.

Hey we beat the Browns, so I'll take that.

Abe Sargent · 12-07-2009, 09:01 PM

Yay fights

JPhillips · 12-07-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

I heard 2000 was a strong possibility Im not sure who said 3000. It might have something to do with Favre having such a good season that they dont need to run Peterson 30 times a game this year. AP is the same back as he has always been nothing has changed except they added a solid QB.

Not sure about that. Over the last six games he's only broken 4 ypc once, a stellar 7.4 against Detroit. His rush counts in those other five games have been 18, 25, 24, 25, and 13. I certainly wouldn't panic as Vikings fan, but I'd want the coaching staff to figure out why AP has been considerably less effective over the last few games.

mauchow · 12-07-2009, 10:03 PM

a great defensive is a PI. lol at these refs.

ok a pi....

mauchow · 12-07-2009, 10:22 PM

And another stupid PI called, this time on the offense. Woodson's momentum took him too far, Mason hardly did anything. I haven't watched the whole game but there has been at least 5 or 6 PIs.. Three of them were really bad.

mauchow · 12-07-2009, 10:33 PM

Announcers just said 9th PI of the game... lol

And that looked like another bad call.

RendeR · 12-07-2009, 10:37 PM

That was an AWFUL call. Gah.

Abe Sargent · 12-07-2009, 10:38 PM

Wowzers

RendeR · 12-07-2009, 10:39 PM

Nice pick.

Abe Sargent · 12-07-2009, 10:42 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHA

mauchow · 12-07-2009, 10:43 PM

And Flaccolme is having a decent game.

RendeR · 12-07-2009, 10:44 PM

Flacco is looking like a rookie this year. Guess he just didn't realize he was one last season.

MikeVic · 12-07-2009, 10:48 PM

I still get confused with Flacco's name. I have to think twice whether I'm saying Flacco or Falco.

Julio Riddols · 12-08-2009, 04:57 AM

Well, now Cinci only needs to win one to take the division.

DataKing · 12-08-2009, 09:43 AM

I can't believe I wasted over 3 hours of my life watching that turd-sandwich of a football game last night.

hoopsguy · 12-08-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DataKing

I can't believe I wasted over 3 hours of my life watching that turd-sandwich of a football game last night.

Is that on top of the epic Bears/Rams tilt Sunday? Yeesh, I felt dumber watching those two offensive coordinators. It was as if they had made a bet about who could call the least aggressive game plan and still win against the opposing crappy defense/team.

DataKing · 12-08-2009, 10:28 AM

The Bears-Rams game was just a turd-flavored appetizer.

12-06-2009, 10:18 PM	#165
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	wow, that looked awful. Last edited by Radii : 12-06-2009 at 10:18 PM.

12-07-2009, 09:57 AM	#171
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12-07-2009, 02:33 PM	#172
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12-07-2009, 08:06 PM	#174
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12-07-2009, 08:20 PM	#177
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Sloppy first quarter. I'ma rooting for the Pack in this one. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

12-06-2009, 10:09 PM	#161
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Um... if anyone shared this in the past and I missed it, I apologize. If not, where the hell have you all been? This is AMAZING.

12-06-2009, 10:12 PM	#162
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	dola: “If I approach you from the front, it’s like, wow, that dude is pretty serious. Then I walk away and you’re like, damn, he likes to party. With two Rs.” AMAZING.

12-06-2009, 10:16 PM	#163
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	What a complete disaster this game was. Get two lineman injured and the middle linebacker who is critical to their defense. I dont think this result could have been any worse.

12-06-2009, 10:17 PM	#164
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	That was a gruesome injury. Hope it's not as bad as it looked.

12-07-2009, 06:14 AM	#168
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Well my Cards are doing their Jekyll and Hyde act against this season. Will the real Cardinals defense please stand up? Obviously a big win for us against a very hot team after that demoralizing end to the Titans game last week. Hope Warner's hip is okay as he was limping pretty bad at the end. Went from a showdown for first place game against SF next week to a possible clinching of the division with a win and a Seattle loss I believe. Not too shabby there Cardinals.

12-07-2009, 08:18 PM	#176
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Another PI. 3rd one of the game, I think. And then a stupid pick by Flacco, his second.

12-07-2009, 08:29 PM	#179
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Ravens offense has really went downhill after a great start to the season.

12-07-2009, 09:01 PM	#181
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Yay fights __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

12-07-2009, 10:03 PM	#183
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	a great defensive is a PI. lol at these refs. ok a pi.... Last edited by mauchow : 12-07-2009 at 10:04 PM.

12-07-2009, 10:22 PM	#184
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	And another stupid PI called, this time on the offense. Woodson's momentum took him too far, Mason hardly did anything. I haven't watched the whole game but there has been at least 5 or 6 PIs.. Three of them were really bad. Last edited by mauchow : 12-07-2009 at 10:22 PM.

12-07-2009, 10:33 PM	#185
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Announcers just said 9th PI of the game... lol And that looked like another bad call. Last edited by mauchow : 12-07-2009 at 10:34 PM.

12-07-2009, 10:37 PM	#186
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	That was an AWFUL call. Gah. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

12-07-2009, 10:38 PM	#187
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12-07-2009, 10:39 PM	#188
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Nice pick. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

12-07-2009, 10:42 PM	#189
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12-07-2009, 10:43 PM	#190
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	And Flaccolme is having a decent game.

12-07-2009, 10:44 PM	#191
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12-07-2009, 10:48 PM	#192
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	I still get confused with Flacco's name. I have to think twice whether I'm saying Flacco or Falco.

12-08-2009, 04:57 AM	#193
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	Well, now Cinci only needs to win one to take the division. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

12-08-2009, 09:43 AM	#194
DataKing Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Chicago	I can't believe I wasted over 3 hours of my life watching that turd-sandwich of a football game last night. __________________ Current Games Diablo III (BattleTag: DataKing#1685) Allegiances: Chicago Bears - Detroit Red Wings - Kansas Jayhawks Awards: 2011 Golden Scribe - Other Sports Category (The Straight(away) and Narrow - A Forza Motorsport 3 Dynasty)

12-08-2009, 10:28 AM	#196
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