What are the worst rules in sports? - Page 4

kcchief19 · 12-27-2008, 06:12 PM

There is nothing about the implementation of replay at any level of football I like. College at least has it halfway right in that they have a replay official who can review any plan and you don't have to have the team worrying about whether or not to challenge. That's just nonsense. And why tie time outs to replays? The goal appears to be to penalize teams for being wrong so why not penalize them 10 yards if they don't have any timeouts left? And we haven't even gotten into the fact that only some types of plays can be challenged and others cannot.

kcchief19 · 12-27-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I think this is mostly done because of poor countries that follow FIFA rules that don't have a clock... that and preventing the scorekeeper from messing with the stoppage timing (as they do in the NFL, NBA, etc).

If your country can't afford a decent clock, you have no business playing soccer at an international level.

But that's not the reason -- it's just a stupid tradition. Technically the clock never stops in soccer, but the referee has the authority to add time at his/her discretion. There's no need for Swiss timing for that. That could be done by somebody else. Putting it on a scoreboard and making it "official" would remove the hanky panky. Right now, one person has the authority to let the game go as long as they want with no one knowing what the time is.

Soccer is the only game with a clock where only one person knows when the game will end. Bizarre.

stevew · 12-27-2008, 06:24 PM

I'd like to see the NFL overtime changed to the first team scoring 6 points wins. Sure you'll have one possession periods still but its better than someone getting a cheap FG and winning. I hate how important the coin toss is.

stevew · 12-27-2008, 06:29 PM

If your defensive line is getting winded it is a lot better to do a stupid challenge and lose a timeout than to just call the timeout. It seems like you get much more time with a challenge.

stevew · 12-27-2008, 06:33 PM

You need to be able to challenge defensive pass inreference, roughing the kicker/passer and grounding. They are fucking critical game changing calls and need to be reviewable

molson · 12-27-2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I'd like to see the NFL overtime changed to the first team scoring 6 points wins. Sure you'll have one possession periods still but its better than someone getting a cheap FG and winning. I hate how important the coin toss is.

I agree. Guaranteeing each team once possession still makes the coin toss critical. I don't know what the bigger advantage is - getting the ball first in the NFL system or getting the ball last when you guarantee each team a possession.

First to 6 points is a great balance. If you score a TD off the bat, you deserve to win. If you can only get a FG, you're the giving the advantage back to the other team to win.

Buccaneer · 12-27-2008, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchief19

If your country can't afford a decent clock, you have no business playing soccer at an international level.

But that's not the reason -- it's just a stupid tradition. Technically the clock never stops in soccer, but the referee has the authority to add time at his/her discretion. There's no need for Swiss timing for that. That could be done by somebody else. Putting it on a scoreboard and making it "official" would remove the hanky panky. Right now, one person has the authority to let the game go as long as they want with no one knowing what the time is.

Soccer is the only game with a clock where only one person knows when the game will end. Bizarre.

I fully agree with that. That's one of several reasons why I do not like soccer at all. By the way, how is this handled in a text sim?

gstelmack · 12-27-2008, 08:03 PM

I didn't catch everything in the thread, but aside from palming / travelling that are never called, the dumbest rule in the NBA is "call a timeout, get the ball at the other half of the court" that allows a team to call timeout after a made shot with 0.8 seconds left on the clock and get to inbound near the other team's basket for a desperation heave. You should ALWAYS have to move the ball the length of the court. The only time you should inbound in the other team's half is after moving it across the halfcourt line.

stevew · 12-27-2008, 08:40 PM

I would assume the half court advance rule was put in place for TV. That way they get to run a shitload of commercials in what's probably the most viewed part of the game. I'm interested when the rule was created and for what reasons other than TV.

jbergey22 · 12-28-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I'd like to see the NFL overtime changed to the first team scoring 6 points wins. Sure you'll have one possession periods still but its better than someone getting a cheap FG and winning. I hate how important the coin toss is.

This is something I had never thought of but a fantastic idea that would fix much of the problem

terpkristin · 12-28-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

This is something I had never thought of but a fantastic idea that would fix much of the problem

Agreed. I waffle on which OT rules I hate more, pro or college. Usually it ends up being pro, as there's too much reliance on what amounts to a 50-50 coin toss.

/tk

Surtt · 12-28-2008, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchief19

If your country can't afford a decent clock, you have no business playing soccer at an international level.

But that's not the reason -- it's just a stupid tradition. Technically the clock never stops in soccer, but the referee has the authority to add time at his/her discretion. There's no need for Swiss timing for that. That could be done by somebody else. Putting it on a scoreboard and making it "official" would remove the hanky panky. Right now, one person has the authority to let the game go as long as they want with no one knowing what the time is.

Soccer is the only game with a clock where only one person knows when the game will end. Bizarre.

Rugby did the same thing, at least at the club level.
In a strange way it was kind of fun. It added a sudden death feel to the end of close games.
You knew you were on borrowed time, but not how much you had...

MIJB#19 · 12-28-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

- the 90 minute rule in English soccer, where if a club wants to sign a youngster, they must live within 90 minutes of the club's training ground. Biased towards more densely populated areas (London clubs in particular)

But isn't the densely populated areas argument nullified by the trend of densely populated areas also having more soccer clubs, making the competition for said player bigger? The real disadvantage is there for the youngesters themselves as those living near the coastline or inside terrible infrasturctured areas have less options.

MrDNA · 12-28-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I'd like to see the NFL overtime changed to the first team scoring 6 points wins. Sure you'll have one possession periods still but its better than someone getting a cheap FG and winning. I hate how important the coin toss is.

This is, quite simply, the best overtime proposal I have ever heard. What's really weird is that I've never heard it before. SteveW for commish!

dervack · 12-28-2008, 02:25 PM

How about, as long as the player is stopped for a first down, you can't challenge the spot? Even if were talking a 2 yard difference?

MJ4H · 12-28-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MrDNA

This is, quite simply, the best overtime proposal I have ever heard. What's really weird is that I've never heard it before. SteveW for commish!

I liked the one where the coaches bid for starting field position and the one that bids the farthest away gets possession first.

Pumpy Tudors · 12-28-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MJ4H

I liked the one where the coaches bid for starting field position and the one that bids the farthest away gets possession first.

Sounds like a weird version of "Name That Tune."

"I can score from 40 yards away."
"I can score from 45 yards away."
"I can score from 50 yards away."
"OK. SCORE THAT TOUCHDOWN!"

DeToxRox · 12-28-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Sounds like a weird version of "Name That Tune."

"I can score from 40 yards away."
"I can score from 45 yards away."
"I can score from 50 yards away."
"OK. SCORE THAT TOUCHDOWN!"

Fuck Pumpy made me chuckle.

I still hate you for making Hot Chocolate my girlfriends favorite drink.

Pumpy Tudors · 12-28-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Fuck Pumpy made me chuckle.

I still hate you for making Hot Chocolate my girlfriends favorite drink.

So she told you "Hot Chocolate" was a drink, huh? Ah, I have that girl very well trained.

DeToxRox · 12-28-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

So she told you "Hot Chocolate" was a drink, huh? Ah, I have that girl very well trained.

It's okay .. ask your wife about the Skinny Half Caf.

Er.

MJ4H · 12-28-2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

Sounds like a weird version of "Name That Tune."

"I can score from 40 yards away."
"I can score from 45 yards away."
"I can score from 50 yards away."
"OK. SCORE THAT TOUCHDOWN!"

That is pretty much exactly it.

Logan · 12-28-2008, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

So she told you "Hot Chocolate" was a drink, huh? Ah, I have that girl very well trained.

If there was ever anything that could replace "bounty hunter" as your custom...

Honolulu Blue · 12-29-2008, 09:30 AM

NASCAR has a lot of silly rules, so I'll just ignore those.

My picks (the first three don't exist anymore, but they were silly while they lasted):

* Halo rule (NCAAF)
* In the grasp (NFL)
* Illegal zone (NBA)
* Defensive indifference (MLB)
* Illegal celebration rules (football)
* Overtime (NCAAF)

BTW, I don't mind the DH and I kinda like the sudden death rule in the NFL.

DaddyTorgo · 12-30-2008, 10:36 PM

whatever rule in the NBA allows Portland's basket with 6 men on the court to count (just happened in the trailblazers-celtics game)

Crim · 12-31-2008, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

I was reading that as one foot in and the other lands out which is a catch. If the foot was already out than I see it not being a catch but that still doesn't seem like it should be used to rule for kicks as you are giving the receiving team the power to "create" a penalty.

Yes, EF, you read my intent correctly. I'd never seen this before, then oddly enough it happened twice to the Gators this year. Once against Alabama, and I am blanking on who the first one was against.

Crim · 12-31-2008, 01:47 AM

If you go to the 55 minute mark, you'll see it. Even the LSU announce team thought Florida got jobbed.

JTV

Fighter of Foo · 12-31-2008, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MrDNA

This is, quite simply, the best overtime proposal I have ever heard. What's really weird is that I've never heard it before. SteveW for commish!

It will result in a LOT more ties and Americans don't like ties. See my least favorite rule, the NHL shootout. Not only do I hate the shootout on principle, but they don't even divide up the points properly.

larrymcg421 · 12-31-2008, 12:41 PM

My NFL OT proposal

1) Each team gets guaranteed a possession, which they get by receiving a kickoff.

2) No coin toss. Home team gets 2nd possession in the first OT.

3) There is no punting.

4) If you don't score, then the officials mark the yard line you reached.

5) The next team either has to beat the score of the previous team or pass the yard line the other team reached.

6) If the game is won by the yard line rule, it will be reported as a 1 pt. victory.

7) If both teams score the same, then we repeat from rule #1, but the the order of possession will switch.

8) Ties suck. Man up and keep playing until someone wins.

12-27-2008, 08:03 PM	#158
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	I didn't catch everything in the thread, but aside from palming / travelling that are never called, the dumbest rule in the NBA is "call a timeout, get the ball at the other half of the court" that allows a team to call timeout after a made shot with 0.8 seconds left on the clock and get to inbound near the other team's basket for a desperation heave. You should ALWAYS have to move the ball the length of the court. The only time you should inbound in the other team's half is after moving it across the halfcourt line. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

12-28-2008, 02:25 PM	#165
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12-31-2008, 12:41 PM	#178
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	My NFL OT proposal 1) Each team gets guaranteed a possession, which they get by receiving a kickoff. 2) No coin toss. Home team gets 2nd possession in the first OT. 3) There is no punting. 4) If you don't score, then the officials mark the yard line you reached. 5) The next team either has to beat the score of the previous team or pass the yard line the other team reached. 6) If the game is won by the yard line rule, it will be reported as a 1 pt. victory. 7) If both teams score the same, then we repeat from rule #1, but the the order of possession will switch. 8) Ties suck. Man up and keep playing until someone wins. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

12-27-2008, 06:12 PM	#151
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	There is nothing about the implementation of replay at any level of football I like. College at least has it halfway right in that they have a replay official who can review any plan and you don't have to have the team worrying about whether or not to challenge. That's just nonsense. And why tie time outs to replays? The goal appears to be to penalize teams for being wrong so why not penalize them 10 yards if they don't have any timeouts left? And we haven't even gotten into the fact that only some types of plays can be challenged and others cannot.

12-27-2008, 06:24 PM	#153
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I'd like to see the NFL overtime changed to the first team scoring 6 points wins. Sure you'll have one possession periods still but its better than someone getting a cheap FG and winning. I hate how important the coin toss is.

12-27-2008, 06:29 PM	#154
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	If your defensive line is getting winded it is a lot better to do a stupid challenge and lose a timeout than to just call the timeout. It seems like you get much more time with a challenge.

12-27-2008, 06:33 PM	#155
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	You need to be able to challenge defensive pass inreference, roughing the kicker/passer and grounding. They are fucking critical game changing calls and need to be reviewable

12-27-2008, 08:40 PM	#159
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I would assume the half court advance rule was put in place for TV. That way they get to run a shitload of commercials in what's probably the most viewed part of the game. I'm interested when the rule was created and for what reasons other than TV.

12-29-2008, 09:30 AM	#173
Honolulu Blue Dynasty Boy Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Michigan	NASCAR has a lot of silly rules, so I'll just ignore those. My picks (the first three don't exist anymore, but they were silly while they lasted): * Halo rule (NCAAF) * In the grasp (NFL) * Illegal zone (NBA) * Defensive indifference (MLB) * Illegal celebration rules (football) * Overtime (NCAAF) BTW, I don't mind the DH and I kinda like the sudden death rule in the NFL.

12-30-2008, 10:36 PM	#174
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	whatever rule in the NBA allows Portland's basket with 6 men on the court to count (just happened in the trailblazers-celtics game)

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