2008-09 College Bowls/Postseason thread - Page 4

Vegas Vic · 12-31-2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

And the Big 12 continues to reign supreme I got it.

This has nothing to do with the Big 12. The facts suggest that the ACC is extremely weak in football this year.

Radii · 12-31-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas Vic

This has nothing to do with the Big 12. The facts suggest that the ACC is extremely weak in football this year.

I don't disagree with this at all, but to suggest that a 35-3 first half shouldn't be a surprise is a bit much.

Noop · 12-31-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas Vic

This has nothing to do with the Big 12. The facts suggest that the ACC is extremely weak in football this year.

ACC Football Report: Out of Conference Report '08 - At Regular Season's End

Go ahead and give that a quick peep.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-31-2008, 09:19 PM

Me: "That's it, I can't take anymore. Play your 360 or something"

Son: "{jaw drops} That's the first time you've ever told me to start playing a game of any kind."

Me: "I don't care if you throw a rock through the TV, I just can't take watching any more of this crap"

Noop · 12-31-2008, 09:20 PM

For some reason I enjoy Florida State and Miami losing games because the entertainment from reading the message boards is second to none imo.

Vegas Vic · 12-31-2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

ACC Football Report: Out of Conference Report '08 - At Regular Season's End

Go ahead and give that a quick peep.

Regular season records vs. out of conference opponents (most of whom are cupcakes) have very little significance, and they tend to inflate a team's statistics. For instance, Florida State played two FCS teams (formerly Division I-AA), and beat them by a combined score of 115-7. If you look at Florida State's games against Division 1 (FBS) competition, their average score was 28-24. That's hardly the stuff that legends are made of. They did beat unranked Wisconsin, so you have to give them credit for what so far is the ACC's "signature" bowl win this year.

sterlingice · 12-31-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

ACC Football Report: Out of Conference Report '08 - At Regular Season's End

Go ahead and give that a quick peep.

Pretty good read. Confirmed what I kindof already suspected- ACC actually played decent out of conference, SEC ate the most cupcakes, and Big XII should have played a little harder competition in the non-con.

But, guess what, voters and fans eat it all up- the SEC and Big XII are the big dogs, mainly because they slaughtered crap in the non-con and looked good before beating each other up. The difference is that the Big XII can't get away with the "we play awful crap because we have such a hard regular season" excuse and get raked over the coals for a lot of our patsies.

I was kindof hoping the ACC would put up a better showing. So far, the Pac-10 has easily looked the best.

SI

Noop · 12-31-2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas Vic

Regular season records vs. out of conference opponents (most of whom are cupcakes) have very little significance, and they tend to inflate a team's statistics. For instance, Florida State played two FCS teams (formerly Division I-AA), and beat them by a combined score of 115-7. If you look at Florida State's games against Division 1 (FBS) competition, their average score was 28-24. That's hardly the stuff that legends are made of. They did beat unranked Wisconsin, so you have to give them credit for what so far is the ACC's "signature" bowl win this year.

LOL. Nevermind.

Ajaxab · 01-01-2009, 10:23 AM

Looks like one Big 10 team has a good chance of winning a bowl game. 2 possessions, 2 scores. 14-0 Iowa.

Jas_lov · 01-01-2009, 10:27 AM

The Hawkeyes will win this with ease. I would have prefered that Iowa play a team that's actually good. South Carolina was terrible all year and shouldn't even be in a bowl game.

Fumble, Iowa ball. South Carolina is a joke.

Galaxy · 01-01-2009, 12:25 PM

Sucks they moved the Cotton Bowl to tomorrow.

JW · 01-01-2009, 12:39 PM

One telling comment from an LSU linebacker after the game:

"The game seemed a lot slower than the practices we had," Riley said. "Our scout team really prepared us well. They were faster than Georgia Tech."

LSU had a tremendous amount of talent but had a down year for several reasons, the QB problems being obvious, and defensive confusion due to the co-DCs never jelling being another. One could argue Jefferson should have played earlier, but other reports were that he just wasn't ready earlier. Now GT did not play its best game, but LSU was just physically superior to GT.

Next year LSU returns Jefferson and will apparently get the premier QB recruit in the country. Miles is also making major changes on the defensive side of the coaching staff. So it will be interesting to see how LSU rebounds from the down year.

GrantDawg · 01-01-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JW

One telling comment from an LSU linebacker after the game:

"The game seemed a lot slower than the practices we had," Riley said. "Our scout team really prepared us well. They were faster than Georgia Tech."

LSU had a tremendous amount of talent but had a down year for several reasons, the QB problems being obvious, and defensive confusion due to the co-DCs never jelling being another. One could argue Jefferson should have played earlier, but other reports were that he just wasn't ready earlier. Now GT did not play its best game, but LSU was just physically superior to GT.

Next year LSU returns Jefferson and will apparently get the premier QB recruit in the country. Miles is also making major changes on the defensive side of the coaching staff. So it will be interesting to see how LSU rebounds from the down year.

Well, there is more too. GT doesn't yet really have the players for their system, and giving a team weeks to prepare for it took away their main advantage. They'll only get better and tougher to play as they are able to build the team.

JW · 01-01-2009, 01:13 PM

A lot of LSU people had a lot of confidence for the very reason you pointed out, just about a month to prepare for GT's offense. That indeed made a big difference. Meanwhile, LSU made great strides getting JJ ready for the game and was able to run a full offense with confidence. Likewise Miles has a great history of preparing teams for bowl games.

I've always liked GT and hope they have a lot of success in the future. Maybe we could relegate USC from the SEC and bring in GT. You for that?

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Well, there is more too. GT doesn't yet really have the players for their system, and giving a team weeks to prepare for it took away their main advantage. They'll only get better and tougher to play as they are able to build the team.

DeToxRox · 01-01-2009, 01:19 PM

Georgia could not place any worse if they tried, and they only trail 6-3.

But wow do they look uninterested.

GrantDawg · 01-01-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JW

A lot of LSU people had a lot of confidence for the very reason you pointed out, just about a month to prepare for GT's offense. That indeed made a big difference. Meanwhile, LSU made great strides getting JJ ready for the game and was able to run a full offense with confidence. Likewise Miles has a great history of preparing teams for bowl games.

I've always liked GT and hope they have a lot of success in the future. Maybe we could relegate USC from the SEC and bring in GT. You for that?

Oh yeah.

GrantDawg · 01-01-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Georgia could not place any worse if they tried, and they only trail 6-3.

But wow do they look uninterested.

Yup.

Logan · 01-01-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Who in the blue fucking hell puts a defensive end at the up man to take the snap on a fake punt inside their own 30? Please God tell me that was some sort of uncalled blown play. Otherwise I'm seriously concerned that CPJ has suffered some sort of traumatic head injury that no one is aware of.

Late to the party, not only was it stupid for all of those reasons...but they snapped it to the guy who was on the near side of the field, and they had him run the sweep to the far side. You have a DE running and you want to also make him cover an extra 5 yards?

GrantDawg · 01-01-2009, 01:28 PM

Wow. Stafford is really playing like a first overall pick. 3 for 11, and just not even trying.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-01-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JW

You for that?

Not me, and I suspect it would be pretty unpopular with most of the GT folks, at least with those under 50. Right or wrong, fair or unfair, it would be perceived as a step in the wrong direction with regard to academics and would be strictly a football move (I can't think of any other sport GT participates in where the ACC isn't at worst equal to the SEC).

A better switch would be Clemson to the SEC with Vandy coming to the ACC.
Never happen, but I'd like to see it and have thought it made sense for years.

Logan · 01-01-2009, 01:31 PM

Yeah, good thing this game sucks so I don't have to watch THE CONSTANT FUCKING SCROLLING of what Thomas Jones said about Brett Favre in an interview with a rap station.

JonInMiddleGA · 01-01-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

But wow do they look uninterested.

I was commenting on that here at home myself, some definite body language signals out there, I thought Stafford in particular looked like he'd rather be elsewhere.

DeToxRox · 01-01-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I was commenting on that here at home myself, some definite body language signals out there, I thought Stafford in particular looked like he'd rather be elsewhere.

Plus how the fuck does a punter just MISS the ball?

JonInMiddleGA · 01-01-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Plus how the fuck does a punter just MISS the ball?

Well, that's easier to believe than thinking running the ball with a DE on a fake punt is a good idea

Logan · 01-01-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Wow. Stafford is really playing like a first overall pick. 3 for 11, and just not even trying.

This is a "Detroit, draft that Bradford guy" performance.

DeToxRox · 01-01-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

This is a "Detroit, draft that Bradford guy" performance.

I don't want a QB but if I had to pick, give me Stafford still.

Bradford throws passes that look like they're destined to be picked all the time. He's better suited for a west coast offense. I just don't buy that hype with him.

GrantDawg · 01-01-2009, 02:15 PM

Look! It is a Matt Stafford sighting!

DeToxRox · 01-01-2009, 02:16 PM

That is why I'd still go Stafford over Bradford. The potential is off the charts. Still have doubts he can reach it though.

MJ4H · 01-01-2009, 03:09 PM

Good to see uga finally wake up a little bit, as opposed to south carolina who never did.

whomario · 01-01-2009, 03:11 PM

Stafford certainly had a pretty flawless 2nd half, great passjust now that bascically puts the game away (and terrific body control on the catch, too)

Eaglesfan27 · 01-01-2009, 04:02 PM

I can't wait for this game to start. Enough talking, let's kickoff already.

Karlifornia · 01-01-2009, 04:06 PM

God this Joe Pa stuff is annoying. Give it a rest, ABC..

Karlifornia · 01-01-2009, 04:08 PM

btw...what exactly does Joe Pa do during games?

whomario · 01-01-2009, 04:10 PM

Haven´t been able to follow College Football much more than a weekend game here or there or had time to follow it online much, can someone explain to me what´s the deal with Penn State´s Coach ? Why is he having that attention he´s now fled from ? Assume that i´ve litterally no knowledge here.

Eaglesfan27 · 01-01-2009, 04:10 PM

SS Kevin Ellison is out today with a knee injury and that will hurt the defense a good bit as he has been a real leader. Damien Williams is also a bit banged up and maybe limited today.

MJ4H · 01-01-2009, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by whomario

Haven´t been able to follow College Football much more than a weekend game here or there or had time to follow it online much, can someone explain to me what´s the deal with Penn State´s Coach ? Why is he having that attention he´s now fled from ? Assume that i´ve litterally no knowledge here.

He's old. That's pretty much it.

Eaglesfan27 · 01-01-2009, 04:34 PM

Trojans strike first with a nice TD pass from Sanchez to Damien Williams! Great balance on this drive for them.

Noop · 01-01-2009, 04:34 PM

You know, I typically regard Big 10 teams as overrated(and they usually are) but Penn State despite that TD they just gave up can hang with anyone save Florida, Oklahoma, Texas and maybe Alabama.

Noop · 01-01-2009, 04:39 PM

For all the talent USC has accumulated over the years I don't recall them ever having an impact corner. Maybe Eaglesfan knows for sure... me and my roommate are discussing this now.

Buccaneer · 01-01-2009, 04:43 PM

My son is so excited right now and that's saying a lot since he's normally very hyperactive.

Karlifornia · 01-01-2009, 04:47 PM

Whoever is calling the plays for PSU is doing a great job on this drive. It seems everything USC has thrown at them has backfired.

Eaglesfan27 · 01-01-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

For all the talent USC has accumulated over the years I don't recall them ever having an impact corner. Maybe Eaglesfan knows for sure... me and my roommate are discussing this now.

Terrell Thomas was very good, but they haven't had a truly elite corner in at least a decade that I can recall.

whomario · 01-01-2009, 04:50 PM

Wow, great drive by Penn State and Clark here.

ISiddiqui · 01-01-2009, 04:53 PM

Clark was very, very good there. Looks like this may be a run fun game

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Noop · 01-01-2009, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

Whoever is calling the plays for PSU is doing a great job on this drive. It seems everything USC has thrown at them has backfired.

Eaglesfan, is that because Carroll I can't recruit them or is it because they can't be developed. My room said its because they usually take their athletes and put them on offense, I don't recall that.

ISiddiqui · 01-01-2009, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MJ4H

He's old. That's pretty much it.

That and he's the winningest coach in Division 1 college football history.

Eaglesfan27 · 01-01-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Eaglesfan, is that because Carroll I can't recruit them or is it because they can't be developed. My room said its because they usually take their athletes and put them on offense, I don't recall that.

I think it is because most of the top athletes in CA want to play offense. Part of why USC is going to lose Randall Carroll is because he wants to play offense and he says the staff talked about him being a DB at one point.

Great response by USC on this drive. Moving the ball very easily (until that play.)

Eaglesfan27 · 01-01-2009, 04:56 PM

Dola -

I think one of our best corners in the past decade, once he develops, will be a player from the Southeast, T.J. Bryant.

Edit: Of course, it is rare to get kids like him away from all of the Florida schools.

MJ4H · 01-01-2009, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

That and he's the winningest coach in Division 1 college football history.

That one is definitely in the backseat. I mean, my grandmother would be the winningest coach if she lived long enough.

Galaxy · 01-01-2009, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

You know, I typically regard Big 10 teams as overrated(and they usually are) but Penn State despite that TD they just gave up can hang with anyone save Florida, Oklahoma, Texas and maybe Alabama.

I think Penn State (and USC) can compete with any team. However, that's just my opinion.

Good point about USC having an impact corner. I can only think of Brian Kelly, who was drafted back in the second round in 1998. USC must have had an impact corner since then.

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Ajaxab College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Far from home	Looks like one Big 10 team has a good chance of winning a bowl game. 2 possessions, 2 scores. 14-0 Iowa.

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Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	The Hawkeyes will win this with ease. I would have prefered that Iowa play a team that's actually good. South Carolina was terrible all year and shouldn't even be in a bowl game. Fumble, Iowa ball. South Carolina is a joke.

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01-01-2009, 12:39 PM	#162
JW College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Monroe, LA, USA	One telling comment from an LSU linebacker after the game: "The game seemed a lot slower than the practices we had," Riley said. "Our scout team really prepared us well. They were faster than Georgia Tech." LSU had a tremendous amount of talent but had a down year for several reasons, the QB problems being obvious, and defensive confusion due to the co-DCs never jelling being another. One could argue Jefferson should have played earlier, but other reports were that he just wasn't ready earlier. Now GT did not play its best game, but LSU was just physically superior to GT. Next year LSU returns Jefferson and will apparently get the premier QB recruit in the country. Miles is also making major changes on the defensive side of the coaching staff. So it will be interesting to see how LSU rebounds from the down year.

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DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Georgia could not place any worse if they tried, and they only trail 6-3. But wow do they look uninterested.

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Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Yeah, good thing this game sucks so I don't have to watch THE CONSTANT FUCKING SCROLLING of what Thomas Jones said about Brett Favre in an interview with a rap station.

01-01-2009, 02:15 PM	#177
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DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	That is why I'd still go Stafford over Bradford. The potential is off the charts. Still have doubts he can reach it though.

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whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	Stafford certainly had a pretty flawless 2nd half, great passjust now that bascically puts the game away (and terrific body control on the catch, too)

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whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	Haven´t been able to follow College Football much more than a weekend game here or there or had time to follow it online much, can someone explain to me what´s the deal with Penn State´s Coach ? Why is he having that attention he´s now fled from ? Assume that i´ve litterally no knowledge here.

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