NFL Week 16 - Page 4

Alan T · 12-21-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

I've stopped watching the Cards game, but I see from the stats that Leinart is finally in the game and has been sacked twice and the Pats are on the verge of scoring again

He's fumbled the ball several times since coming in. At this point it isn't helping him being in there right now at all.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-21-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

I knew I was in trouble in my fantasy championship game when I saw my opponent having Brees and Thomas go against the Lions.

You think you got troubles? My son had Warner at QB.

Jas_lov · 12-21-2008, 02:36 PM

The Pats just kicked a FG to go up by 47. I wish Fox would switch to a better game, but they don't have one! The only other two games on Fox now are SF-STL and NO-DET.

Thomkal · 12-21-2008, 02:38 PM

that's too bad about Leinart, but really wasn't expecting him to be good in this game coming from Southern California and all. Go to the 3rd stringer if they must but there's no good reason to risj Warner getting injured at this point

Eaglesfan27 · 12-21-2008, 02:39 PM

Thank you, Bolts

RainMaker · 12-21-2008, 02:42 PM

Big Ben looks absolutely horrible.

molson · 12-21-2008, 02:46 PM

I've been avoiding this thread as I watch Pats/Cards on TIVO delay, but since I saw SirFozzie and DaddyTorgo making all the most recent posts from the main page, I knew things will going really well, or really poorly.

I think the Pats are going to miss out at 11-5....Which I have no problem with even if the Chargers get in at 8-8. PLEASE PLEASE NFL do NOT expand the playoffs. Your league structure is PERFECT, and division championships matter.

Galaril · 12-21-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

yeah, he's fumbled twice. First time the ball just fell out of his hands.

His Helmet communication doesn't work, and he gives the impression that he'd rather be inside sipping hot coacoa

That's not bad Rotheslieshberger has fumbled four times and a interception.

Jas_lov · 12-21-2008, 02:50 PM

And the Titans put the game away, now switch us to KC-Miami.

DeToxRox · 12-21-2008, 02:55 PM

Titans rookie DL Jason Jones out of EMU has 4 sacks today. Kid is special.

Galaril · 12-21-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Titans rookie DL Jason Jones out of EMU has 4 sacks today. Kid is special.

Yeah we madea big stink with picking in in the 2nd round but I guess that is why the coaches get paid big bucks.

DaddyTorgo · 12-21-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

I've been avoiding this thread as I watch Pats/Cards on TIVO delay, but since I saw SirFozzie and DaddyTorgo making all the most recent posts from the main page, I knew things will going really well, or really poorly.

I think the Pats are going to miss out at 11-5....Which I have no problem with even if the Chargers get in at 8-8. PLEASE PLEASE NFL do NOT expand the playoffs. Your league structure is PERFECT, and division championships matter.

i disagree. the divisional/conference structure is fucking retarded. it's retarded in every sport.

the best teams in the league should make the playoffs. having an 11-5 team miss out (any 11-5 team) while an 8-8 team makes it (any 8-8 team) is fucking stupid and dilutes the meaningfullness of the championship game

Thomkal · 12-21-2008, 02:59 PM

I see the Pats gave the Cards a mercy TD

molson · 12-21-2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i disagree. the divisional/conference structure is fucking retarded. it's retarded in every sport.

the best teams in the league should make the playoffs. having an 11-5 team miss out (any 11-5 team) while an 8-8 team makes it (any 8-8 team) is fucking stupid and dilutes the meaningfullness of the championship game

Win your division or face the consequences - I love that setup but understand your point.

Division teams face each other twice a year no matter what - I love that those games matter more than any others. It's good for divisional rivalries and good for the NFL. But I know Kraft has a lot of sway amongst owners, and I'm afraid we'll see a 16-team playoffs soon. Which would suck. .500 would get you in most years, no matter what. And there would be no first-round-bye advantage for the best teams. The football regular season would mean a hell of a lot less.

Galaril · 12-21-2008, 03:05 PM

Titans 83 yd. interception TD Titans 31-14 game. The First time in Titans Oilers history that they have had the number seed. I know it doesn' tmean much but still to do it against our old time rivals from the 70s it is quite sweet(sorry FOFC STEELER FANS)

DaddyTorgo · 12-21-2008, 03:05 PM

i don't want to see expanded playoffs either. i just want to see the teams with the best records make it in. same in every sport (nfl, mlb, nba, nhl, mls)

RainMaker · 12-21-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i disagree. the divisional/conference structure is fucking retarded. it's retarded in every sport.

the best teams in the league should make the playoffs. having an 11-5 team miss out (any 11-5 team) while an 8-8 team makes it (any 8-8 team) is fucking stupid and dilutes the meaningfullness of the championship game

At the same time, the divisional structure sets up great rivalries. But I understand what you're saying. It's disappointing to see a solid 11-5 or 10-6 team not make the playoffs while trash like the Cardinals get in. Not sure what you can do about it though. Making it strictly based on record in a conference would put less meaning on a lot of games.

molson · 12-21-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i don't want to see expanded playoffs either. i just want to see the teams with the best records make it in. same in every sport (nfl, mlb, nba, nhl, mls)

I definitely think the six-division setups of the NHL and NBA suck.....I say put it back to 4 divisions, and make those division championships matter.

In the NFL though, with far fewer games, I like the setup and the emphasis of winning your division.

Jas_lov · 12-21-2008, 03:10 PM

They should NOT expand the NFL playoffs. The NBA playoffs is a joke and that's what the NFL would become. This year there will be 10-6 teams that are left out while the Cards and AFC West winner may be 8-8, that's just the way it is. The division games are usually the best and I don't want to water those down. It's fine the way it is.

Thomkal · 12-21-2008, 03:13 PM

wow KC recovers a Miami fumble late in the game, and still has a chance to win

Jas_lov · 12-21-2008, 03:13 PM

Pending the review. Looks like Ricky was down.

Thomkal · 12-21-2008, 03:16 PM

ugh and cbs has to pull out of showing the finish due to NFL rules.

DeToxRox · 12-21-2008, 03:16 PM

Awful call in the Miami game. Clearly Ricky was down on that play.

Kodos · 12-21-2008, 03:18 PM

Looks like it won't matter. Nice to see the Dolphins make it to 10 wins after a season with 1.

Thomkal · 12-21-2008, 03:20 PM

well that was anticlimatic. 3 incomplete passes than an INT.

molson · 12-21-2008, 03:24 PM

What an incredible story in Miami....As a Pats fan, I've come to grips with 11-5 and missing out on the playoffs - it's still a success, considering all the injuries.

Alan T · 12-21-2008, 03:25 PM

Turner TD Falcons!

GrantDawg · 12-21-2008, 03:25 PM

Falcons puts together a good drive to take the lead on the Vikes. Come on, birds!

Alan T · 12-21-2008, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i don't want to see expanded playoffs either. i just want to see the teams with the best records make it in. same in every sport (nfl, mlb, nba, nhl, mls)

Only sounds good to me if there is a balanced schedule. In the NFL for instance, if you were to do this, every team would need to face every other team in their conference and that would mean no more NFC vs AFC regular season games. Otherwise you would have people with unbalanced records (ie: more wins against easier competition).

I personally don't mind how it is now in the NFL. I agree that the NBA and NHL have way too many playoff teams, and I also think the MLB in the last 10 years have gone that route also. The NFL is the only ones left with a decent playoff structure left.

Jas_lov · 12-21-2008, 03:35 PM

Exactly. The AFC East has gotten to play the AFC West and NFC West this year. That's not really fair to the AFC North and South if you're giving the playoff spots to the best records. You'd have to take away the AFC-NFC games or divisional games to make it fair, and that's just wrong.

Alan T · 12-21-2008, 03:37 PM

The touchdown was nice, but the Falcons need to stop the Vikings also.

Suburban Rhythm · 12-21-2008, 03:38 PM

PING stevew

At least we had a Lord Tyrone sighting.

Buccaneer · 12-21-2008, 03:42 PM

There's a couple of Bolts games that I wish had gone from L to W, they would be in good shape now. But they will fall short.

GrantDawg · 12-21-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

The touchdown was nice, but the Falcons need to stop the Vikings also.

Yeah, that would be handy. We definitely know which side of the ball they still need help on.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-21-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

no more NFC vs AFC regular season games.

Not sure I'd really mind that.

Alan T · 12-21-2008, 03:46 PM

Falcons punt, and the Vikings returner fumbles.. nice fumble recovery for the Falcons

GrantDawg · 12-21-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Falcons punt, and the Vikings returner fumbles.. nice fumble recovery for the Falcons

Did you here that they are working on the record for least punt return yardage allowed? That's interesting.

Alan T · 12-21-2008, 03:52 PM

Norwood, TD Falcons!

Alan T · 12-21-2008, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Did you here that they are working on the record for least punt return yardage allowed? That's interesting.

Yeah, was kind of ironic, the announcers were commenting that their aim for the record wasn't that good as if they likely wouldn't accomplish it.. right before forcing the fumble

RedKingGold · 12-21-2008, 03:53 PM

Eagles-Redskins - Zorn makes a horrible decision to go for a 54-yard field goal in the wind. Needless to say, it's hella short and Demps returns it back to the 50-yard line.

The Skin's should've just taken a knee.

Alan T · 12-21-2008, 04:02 PM

Adrian Peterson fumbles, and Falcons recovers it again.

The Falcons appear to be completely unable to stop the Vikings offense right now, but the turnovers are just killing Minnesota

Jas_lov · 12-21-2008, 04:03 PM

Vikings are shooting themselves in the foot.

In the Jets game, Favre is trying to lose it but Seattle is atrocious.

EagleFan · 12-21-2008, 04:09 PM

Eagles are playing very frustrating today. They have a chance to determine their own fate and instead they are playing like it's a preseason game so far.

gstelmack · 12-21-2008, 04:15 PM

On the playoff bit, the real issue here is the Pats lost to the teams they played in the AFC while feasting on the NFC teams, while the Jets and 'phins won in the AFC while losing to the NFC, and that appears to be the tiebreaker issue the Pats are facing.

The real enemies in all this are:

- The Pats defense that has cost them a few games, including the first one against the 'phins that should have made all this moot.
- The Bills coaching staff for calling a Losman rollout, and Losman for not getting rid of the freaking ball in a game where all you have to do is sit on it to win, instead of handing the Jets a free victory that kept them in it.
- A Cowboys team with their playoff life on the line unable to stop a simple run up the middle, which would have kept Baltimore out of the tiebreaker picture.

But mostly the Pats' defense who blew a couple of games. They play like the Pats' defense of old, we're not worried about tiebreakers for the division.

Alan T · 12-21-2008, 04:17 PM

Another Peterson fumble recovered by the Falcons. Looked like a muffed communication between Jackson and Peterson on the ball handoff

DaddyTorgo · 12-21-2008, 04:17 PM

Adrian Peterson - your NFL leading rusher - ROTFLMAO

Jas_lov · 12-21-2008, 04:17 PM

LOL! AP fumbles again! Falcons better capitalize on this one.

GrantDawg · 12-21-2008, 04:18 PM

Peterson loses it again! Good thing, too, because the defense looks lost.

Jas_lov · 12-21-2008, 04:20 PM

There's still hope, Patriots fans. Seattle is up 7-3.

Alan T · 12-21-2008, 04:50 PM

Another VIkings fumble recovered by the Falcons. That is the only way we're winning this one because the defense is not stopping anyone.

12-21-2008, 02:39 PM	#155
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12-21-2008, 03:10 PM	#169
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	They should NOT expand the NFL playoffs. The NBA playoffs is a joke and that's what the NFL would become. This year there will be 10-6 teams that are left out while the Cards and AFC West winner may be 8-8, that's just the way it is. The division games are usually the best and I don't want to water those down. It's fine the way it is. Last edited by Jas_lov : 12-21-2008 at 03:11 PM.

12-21-2008, 03:18 PM	#174
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Looks like it won't matter. Nice to see the Dolphins make it to 10 wins after a season with 1. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties. Last edited by Kodos : 12-21-2008 at 03:19 PM.

12-21-2008, 03:25 PM	#177
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Turner TD Falcons! __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

12-21-2008, 03:37 PM	#181
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	The touchdown was nice, but the Falcons need to stop the Vikings also. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

12-21-2008, 02:36 PM	#153
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	The Pats just kicked a FG to go up by 47. I wish Fox would switch to a better game, but they don't have one! The only other two games on Fox now are SF-STL and NO-DET.

12-21-2008, 02:38 PM	#154
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	that's too bad about Leinart, but really wasn't expecting him to be good in this game coming from Southern California and all. Go to the 3rd stringer if they must but there's no good reason to risj Warner getting injured at this point

12-21-2008, 02:42 PM	#156
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Big Ben looks absolutely horrible.

12-21-2008, 02:46 PM	#157
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I've been avoiding this thread as I watch Pats/Cards on TIVO delay, but since I saw SirFozzie and DaddyTorgo making all the most recent posts from the main page, I knew things will going really well, or really poorly. I think the Pats are going to miss out at 11-5....Which I have no problem with even if the Chargers get in at 8-8. PLEASE PLEASE NFL do NOT expand the playoffs. Your league structure is PERFECT, and division championships matter.

12-21-2008, 02:50 PM	#159
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	And the Titans put the game away, now switch us to KC-Miami.

12-21-2008, 02:55 PM	#160
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Titans rookie DL Jason Jones out of EMU has 4 sacks today. Kid is special.

12-21-2008, 02:59 PM	#163
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	I see the Pats gave the Cards a mercy TD

12-21-2008, 03:05 PM	#165
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	Titans 83 yd. interception TD Titans 31-14 game. The First time in Titans Oilers history that they have had the number seed. I know it doesn' tmean much but still to do it against our old time rivals from the 70s it is quite sweet(sorry FOFC STEELER FANS)

12-21-2008, 03:05 PM	#166
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	i don't want to see expanded playoffs either. i just want to see the teams with the best records make it in. same in every sport (nfl, mlb, nba, nhl, mls)

12-21-2008, 03:13 PM	#170
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	wow KC recovers a Miami fumble late in the game, and still has a chance to win

12-21-2008, 03:13 PM	#171
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Pending the review. Looks like Ricky was down.

12-21-2008, 03:16 PM	#172
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	ugh and cbs has to pull out of showing the finish due to NFL rules.

12-21-2008, 03:16 PM	#173
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Awful call in the Miami game. Clearly Ricky was down on that play.

12-21-2008, 03:20 PM	#175
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	well that was anticlimatic. 3 incomplete passes than an INT.

12-21-2008, 03:24 PM	#176
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	What an incredible story in Miami....As a Pats fan, I've come to grips with 11-5 and missing out on the playoffs - it's still a success, considering all the injuries.

12-21-2008, 03:25 PM	#178
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Falcons puts together a good drive to take the lead on the Vikes. Come on, birds!

12-21-2008, 03:35 PM	#180
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Exactly. The AFC East has gotten to play the AFC West and NFC West this year. That's not really fair to the AFC North and South if you're giving the playoff spots to the best records. You'd have to take away the AFC-NFC games or divisional games to make it fair, and that's just wrong.

12-21-2008, 03:38 PM	#182
Suburban Rhythm Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pittsburgh	PING stevew At least we had a Lord Tyrone sighting. __________________ "Do you guys play fast tempos with odd time signatures?" "Yeah" "Cool!!"

12-21-2008, 03:42 PM	#183
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	There's a couple of Bolts games that I wish had gone from L to W, they would be in good shape now. But they will fall short.

12-21-2008, 03:46 PM	#186
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Falcons punt, and the Vikings returner fumbles.. nice fumble recovery for the Falcons __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

12-21-2008, 03:52 PM	#188
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Norwood, TD Falcons! __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

12-21-2008, 03:53 PM	#190
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Eagles-Redskins - Zorn makes a horrible decision to go for a 54-yard field goal in the wind. Needless to say, it's hella short and Demps returns it back to the 50-yard line. The Skin's should've just taken a knee.

12-21-2008, 04:02 PM	#191
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Adrian Peterson fumbles, and Falcons recovers it again. The Falcons appear to be completely unable to stop the Vikings offense right now, but the turnovers are just killing Minnesota __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

12-21-2008, 04:03 PM	#192
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Vikings are shooting themselves in the foot. In the Jets game, Favre is trying to lose it but Seattle is atrocious.

12-21-2008, 04:09 PM	#193
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Eagles are playing very frustrating today. They have a chance to determine their own fate and instead they are playing like it's a preseason game so far.

12-21-2008, 04:15 PM	#194
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	On the playoff bit, the real issue here is the Pats lost to the teams they played in the AFC while feasting on the NFC teams, while the Jets and 'phins won in the AFC while losing to the NFC, and that appears to be the tiebreaker issue the Pats are facing. The real enemies in all this are: - The Pats defense that has cost them a few games, including the first one against the 'phins that should have made all this moot. - The Bills coaching staff for calling a Losman rollout, and Losman for not getting rid of the freaking ball in a game where all you have to do is sit on it to win, instead of handing the Jets a free victory that kept them in it. - A Cowboys team with their playoff life on the line unable to stop a simple run up the middle, which would have kept Baltimore out of the tiebreaker picture. But mostly the Pats' defense who blew a couple of games. They play like the Pats' defense of old, we're not worried about tiebreakers for the division. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

12-21-2008, 04:17 PM	#195
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Another Peterson fumble recovered by the Falcons. Looked like a muffed communication between Jackson and Peterson on the ball handoff __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

12-21-2008, 04:17 PM	#196
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Adrian Peterson - your NFL leading rusher - ROTFLMAO

12-21-2008, 04:17 PM	#197
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	LOL! AP fumbles again! Falcons better capitalize on this one.

12-21-2008, 04:18 PM	#198
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Peterson loses it again! Good thing, too, because the defense looks lost.