The FOFC Hockey Draft - Draft Underway - Page 4

Logan · 03-10-2008, 10:29 AM

2.2 - Brian Leetch (Offensive Defenseman) - New York Rangers, Toronto, Boston

Not where I expected to go with this pick, but this is a tough category to nab a premium player (especially with who is off the board already) and Leetch, IMO, fits that bill.

Some think of him as the greatest American-born hockey player of all time, and I agree. Hell of an offensive player. One of 5 defensemen to score over 100 points on a season, and one of 7 with over 1000 points in his career. Won the Norris twice, an All-Star 11 times, and most importantly, took the Conn Smythe home in 1994.

Lathum · 03-10-2008, 10:42 AM

I am leaving for school but should be on in a little while to make my pick whenever HB gets around to his

Honolulu_Blue · 03-10-2008, 10:54 AM

2.3 Patrick Roy (Goalie)

Winningest goalie in the history of the NHL. He led Montreal to the Stanley Cup as a rookie goaltender. He won three more Stanley Cups. He also won 3 Con Smythes, 3 Vezina Trophies.

As far as big game goaltenders, there really isn't any better than Patrick Roy.

I'm gonna go be sick now.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-10-2008, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan

BTW, gutsy pick on Cam Neely in the first round. I think that may have been a little early, but I'd hope people would consider just how dominant he was before his career ended prematurely.

Yeah, maybe it was a bit early on Cam Neely, but whenever I think "power forward", he's the first player I think of. I think he pretty much defned the role as it's understood today. I considered him the top power forward on the board (after Gordie Howe) and given the limited number of teams he played for, it made it easier.

Lathum · 03-10-2008, 11:40 AM

2.4- Scott Stevens ( Biggest Hitter)

This video says it all. The top 3 are insane. He single handedly ruined Eric Lindros' career.

People say the devils success was a result of the trap. I say it was a result of opposing players being reluctant to come over the middle.

And all his hits were clean, the guy was just a beast.

Factor in he captained 3 stanley cup teams and was a 13 time all star, he was one of the few players who didn't score goals that you would pay to watch. I miss watching him play

Pumpy Tudors · 03-10-2008, 11:43 AM

I had thought about taking Stevens, as he's one of my all-time favorite players. I miss watching him play, too.

Lathum · 03-10-2008, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I had thought about taking Stevens, as he's one of my all-time favorite players. I miss watching him play, too.

How great is that youtube clip. I remeber Kovlov trying to skate off the ice after it and his legs were jelly

Lathum · 03-10-2008, 11:48 AM

in slow motion

Logan · 03-10-2008, 12:11 PM

Interesting, I had thought of using Stevens as both lockdown d-man or leader, but yeah, punishing hitter is a better fit.

Maple Leafs · 03-10-2008, 12:53 PM

Hey folks, if you're not around to check in frequently there's really no reason not to send a short list to bsak.

TazFTW · 03-10-2008, 02:05 PM

Was debating between two guys, one with more Stanley Cups and the other with more wins. I select

Hector "Toe" Blake Head Coach (Montreal)

13 seasons behind the bench winning 8 Stanley Cups.

Logan · 03-10-2008, 02:47 PM

Damn...I was hoping for him to fall into the 3rd.

Dr. Sak · 03-10-2008, 03:43 PM

Chief Rum selects

2.6 Stan Mikita, Chicago Blackhawks

Dr. Sak · 03-10-2008, 03:43 PM

Suburban Rhythm selects...

2.7 Mike Bossy, New York Islanders

Dr. Sak · 03-10-2008, 03:44 PM

I need positions from you guys ASAP for those players..thanks.

Maple Leafs · 03-10-2008, 03:51 PM

2.8 Denis Potvin, offensive defenceman (Islanders)

Logan · 03-10-2008, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

2.8 Denis Potvin, offensive defenceman (Islanders)

He was #2 on my list for leader behind Messier, being the captain of that dynasty. I don't really know much of him as a player, besides one thing...

(whistle)

(whistle)

(whistle)

POTVIN SUCKS!!!

Lathum · 03-10-2008, 04:12 PM

beat your wife denny, beat your wife

Oilers9911 · 03-10-2008, 04:18 PM

Another guy that can go in many different spots. He could be the Leader/Captain but I will put him in the playmaker category since he has the second most career assists.

2.9 - Playmaker - Ron Francis

Maple Leafs · 03-10-2008, 04:20 PM

Hold up.

Francis and Howe both played for Hartford.

DeToxRox · 03-10-2008, 04:22 PM

2.10 Mike Madano. Playmaker

Reaching prolly but the less teams the better early on

Lathum · 03-10-2008, 04:26 PM

So I know this was answered but I am stoopid.

Coaches count towards the team, so for example I have a devil so Jauque Lemair is off the board for me, correct?

Dr. Sak · 03-10-2008, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Hold up.

Francis and Howe both played for Hartford.

That is correct...Oilers must pick again.

Dr. Sak · 03-10-2008, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

So I know this was answered but I am stoopid.

Coaches count towards the team, so for example I have a devil so Jauque Lemair is off the board for me, correct?

Coaches count towards teams. But since Vtbub drafted Gretzky as a player...that does not remove him from taking a Coyote. Understand?

Maple Leafs · 03-10-2008, 04:39 PM

I definitely didn't expect the Hartford Whalers to be the first team somebody doubled up on.

Lathum · 03-10-2008, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsak16

Coaches count towards teams. But since Vtbub drafted Gretzky as a player...that does not remove him from taking a Coyote. Understand?

no

Maple Leafs · 03-10-2008, 04:44 PM

When you draft a head coach, you cover all the teams he was head coach for.

You do not cover any teams he played for, or worked for in some other capacity (assistant, GM, scout, minor league coach, etc).

Lathum · 03-10-2008, 04:56 PM

so to answer my question Lemaire would be out for me, correct?

Logan · 03-10-2008, 04:58 PM

Correct.

Suburban Rhythm · 03-10-2008, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsak16

Suburban Rhythm selects...

2.7 Mike Bossy, New York Islanders

Sniper

Johnny93g · 03-10-2008, 06:00 PM

I was hoping Mike Bossy would fall to me. Great pick

Suburban Rhythm · 03-10-2008, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny93g

I was hoping Mike Bossy would fall to me. Great pick

50+ every season til his last. Bonus of all with one team made the pick even easier.

Maple Leafs · 03-10-2008, 07:54 PM

I think that due to the nature of the rules, we're going to see a few cases like Oilers today where somebody takes a player he's not actually allowed to pick. This has the potential to slow us down.

A suggestion would be to allow subsequent teams to keep picking, with the offending team being able to repick any time they come back and realize what's happened. Call it the Minnesota Vikings rule.

The downside is that the ineligible player may be a guy that a later team would want. Not sure how you get around that, other than to say that everyone is responsible for keeping an eye on the other rosters and being aware of an illegal pick. That would keep us moving, but may also be too much work.

Thoughts?

Lathum · 03-10-2008, 07:58 PM

I completly agree.

I am wondering if we may encounter a situation where someone is unable to make a pick

MikeVic · 03-10-2008, 08:00 PM

If there's a case like Oilers today, I think anyone drafting after him should have free reign to take Ron Francis. It's not like Oilers can.

DeToxRox · 03-10-2008, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

I completly agree.

I am wondering if we may encounter a situation where someone is unable to make a pick

I'm planning for that. I feel like you gotta go best guys on one or two teams early or else you shoot yourself in the foot later.

Maple Leafs · 03-10-2008, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVic

If there's a case like Oilers today, I think anyone drafting after him should have free reign to take Ron Francis. It's not like Oilers can.

Yeah, I'd be fine with that. The concern would be if the next guy doesn't notice right away (like happened today) and then says "hey, I would have picked that guy if I'd known..."

MikeVic · 03-10-2008, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Yeah, I'd be fine with that. The concern would be if the next guy doesn't notice right away (like happened today) and then says "hey, I would have picked that guy if I'd known..."

Yeah, I think your suggestion of people making sure to keep track themselves is a valid one in this case too. Anyone can point it out if they want, but they don't have to until it's their pick.

DeToxRox · 03-10-2008, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Yeah, I'd be fine with that. The concern would be if the next guy doesn't notice right away (like happened today) and then says "hey, I would have picked that guy if I'd known..."

I don't care about not getting Francis, I just think since my pick was made before the error was known I shouldn't lose my guy if he wanted him.

Dr. Sak · 03-10-2008, 08:23 PM

DeTox your pick stands...if you want to take Francis you should say so before Oilers makes his pick...if you want to keep Modano then just leave things the way they are.

Oilers9911 · 03-10-2008, 09:40 PM

My bad, I forgot Francis played for Hartford as did Gordie Howe...ok...so at Sniper I will pick Phil Esposito.

Chief Rum · 03-11-2008, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

2.3 Patrick Roy (Goalie)

Winningest goalie in the history of the NHL. He led Montreal to the Stanley Cup as a rookie goaltender. He won three more Stanley Cups. He also won 3 Con Smythes, 3 Vezina Trophies.

As far as big game goaltenders, there really isn't any better than Patrick Roy.

I'm gonna go be sick now.

I'm shocked you made this pick. I couldn't do it. I couldn't type out his name. Nor the ape who used to play D in Jersey (and I ain't talkin' about a current Duck).

Chief Rum · 03-11-2008, 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsak16

Chief Rum selects

2.6 Stan Mikita, Chicago Blackhawks

Playmaker

korme · 03-11-2008, 02:25 AM

What site do hockey fans use to look up stats? I honestly don't know what I'd do without baseball-reference and their sibling basketball and football sites.

I know hockey-reference is in development, but it ain't there yet.

Edit, I found "The Internet Hockey Database", holy crap my man Dino Ciccarelli is 16th all-time in goals scored? Crazy

/endthreadjack

Lathum · 03-11-2008, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I'm shocked you made this pick. I couldn't do it. I couldn't type out his name. Nor the ape who used to play D in Jersey (and I ain't talkin' about a current Duck).

by ape do you mean the greatest defensive defensmen of all time?

Pumpy Tudors · 03-11-2008, 08:26 AM

DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT DAVE ELLETT

Maple Leafs · 03-11-2008, 08:37 AM

So I think vtbub it up, then johnny with back-to-back picks.

vtbub · 03-11-2008, 08:50 AM

Working on it

Suburban Rhythm · 03-11-2008, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

by ape do you mean the greatest defensive defensmen of all time?

Did someone take Lyle Odelein already?

vtbub · 03-11-2008, 09:02 AM

2.11 Ted Lindsey (Power Forward) Detroit, Chicago

03-10-2008, 10:29 AM	#151
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	2.2 - Brian Leetch (Offensive Defenseman) - New York Rangers, Toronto, Boston Not where I expected to go with this pick, but this is a tough category to nab a premium player (especially with who is off the board already) and Leetch, IMO, fits that bill. Some think of him as the greatest American-born hockey player of all time, and I agree. Hell of an offensive player. One of 5 defensemen to score over 100 points on a season, and one of 7 with over 1000 points in his career. Won the Norris twice, an All-Star 11 times, and most importantly, took the Conn Smythe home in 1994. Last edited by Logan : 03-10-2008 at 10:29 AM.

03-10-2008, 10:54 AM	#153
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	2.3 Patrick Roy (Goalie) Winningest goalie in the history of the NHL. He led Montreal to the Stanley Cup as a rookie goaltender. He won three more Stanley Cups. He also won 3 Con Smythes, 3 Vezina Trophies. As far as big game goaltenders, there really isn't any better than Patrick Roy. I'm gonna go be sick now. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

03-10-2008, 11:43 AM	#156
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I had thought about taking Stevens, as he's one of my all-time favorite players. I miss watching him play, too. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

03-10-2008, 12:53 PM	#160
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Hey folks, if you're not around to check in frequently there's really no reason not to send a short list to bsak. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

03-10-2008, 02:05 PM	#161
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Was debating between two guys, one with more Stanley Cups and the other with more wins. I select Hector "Toe" Blake Head Coach (Montreal) 13 seasons behind the bench winning 8 Stanley Cups. __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

03-10-2008, 10:42 AM	#152
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I am leaving for school but should be on in a little while to make my pick whenever HB gets around to his

03-10-2008, 11:40 AM	#155
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	2.4- Scott Stevens ( Biggest Hitter) This video says it all. The top 3 are insane. He single handedly ruined Eric Lindros' career. People say the devils success was a result of the trap. I say it was a result of opposing players being reluctant to come over the middle. And all his hits were clean, the guy was just a beast. Factor in he captained 3 stanley cup teams and was a 13 time all star, he was one of the few players who didn't score goals that you would pay to watch. I miss watching him play

03-10-2008, 11:48 AM	#158
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	in slow motion

03-10-2008, 12:11 PM	#159
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Interesting, I had thought of using Stevens as both lockdown d-man or leader, but yeah, punishing hitter is a better fit.

03-10-2008, 02:47 PM	#162
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Damn...I was hoping for him to fall into the 3rd.

03-10-2008, 03:43 PM	#163
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Chief Rum selects 2.6 Stan Mikita, Chicago Blackhawks

03-10-2008, 03:43 PM	#164
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Suburban Rhythm selects... 2.7 Mike Bossy, New York Islanders Last edited by Dr. Sak : 03-10-2008 at 03:43 PM.

03-10-2008, 03:44 PM	#165
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	I need positions from you guys ASAP for those players..thanks.

03-10-2008, 03:51 PM	#166
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	2.8 Denis Potvin, offensive defenceman (Islanders) __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

03-10-2008, 04:12 PM	#168
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	beat your wife denny, beat your wife

03-10-2008, 04:18 PM	#169
Oilers9911 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2006	Another guy that can go in many different spots. He could be the Leader/Captain but I will put him in the playmaker category since he has the second most career assists. 2.9 - Playmaker - Ron Francis

03-10-2008, 04:20 PM	#170
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Hold up. Francis and Howe both played for Hartford. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

03-10-2008, 04:22 PM	#171
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	2.10 Mike Madano. Playmaker Reaching prolly but the less teams the better early on

03-10-2008, 04:26 PM	#172
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	So I know this was answered but I am stoopid. Coaches count towards the team, so for example I have a devil so Jauque Lemair is off the board for me, correct?

03-10-2008, 04:39 PM	#175
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	I definitely didn't expect the Hartford Whalers to be the first team somebody doubled up on. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

03-10-2008, 04:44 PM	#177
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	When you draft a head coach, you cover all the teams he was head coach for. You do not cover any teams he played for, or worked for in some other capacity (assistant, GM, scout, minor league coach, etc). __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

03-10-2008, 04:56 PM	#178
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	so to answer my question Lemaire would be out for me, correct?

03-10-2008, 04:58 PM	#179
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Correct.

03-10-2008, 06:00 PM	#181
Johnny93g College Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto	I was hoping Mike Bossy would fall to me. Great pick __________________ FOOL- Toronto Marlboros FOOL Classic Champions 2073, 2078, 2079, 2114, 2116, 2117, 2129, 2152, 2155, 2169, 2192 46 35 FOOL H- New York Giants World Champions 1914, 1928 BBCF: Notre Dame TML

03-10-2008, 07:54 PM	#183
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	I think that due to the nature of the rules, we're going to see a few cases like Oilers today where somebody takes a player he's not actually allowed to pick. This has the potential to slow us down. A suggestion would be to allow subsequent teams to keep picking, with the offending team being able to repick any time they come back and realize what's happened. Call it the Minnesota Vikings rule. The downside is that the ineligible player may be a guy that a later team would want. Not sure how you get around that, other than to say that everyone is responsible for keeping an eye on the other rosters and being aware of an illegal pick. That would keep us moving, but may also be too much work. Thoughts? __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

03-10-2008, 07:58 PM	#184
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I completly agree. I am wondering if we may encounter a situation where someone is unable to make a pick

03-10-2008, 08:00 PM	#185
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	If there's a case like Oilers today, I think anyone drafting after him should have free reign to take Ron Francis. It's not like Oilers can.

03-10-2008, 08:23 PM	#190
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	DeTox your pick stands...if you want to take Francis you should say so before Oilers makes his pick...if you want to keep Modano then just leave things the way they are.

03-10-2008, 09:40 PM	#191
Oilers9911 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2006	My bad, I forgot Francis played for Hartford as did Gordie Howe...ok...so at Sniper I will pick Phil Esposito.

03-11-2008, 02:25 AM	#194
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	What site do hockey fans use to look up stats? I honestly don't know what I'd do without baseball-reference and their sibling basketball and football sites. I know hockey-reference is in development, but it ain't there yet. Edit, I found "The Internet Hockey Database", holy crap my man Dino Ciccarelli is 16th all-time in goals scored? Crazy /endthreadjack Last edited by korme : 03-11-2008 at 02:28 AM.

03-11-2008, 08:26 AM	#196
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT DAVE ELLETT __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

03-11-2008, 08:37 AM	#197
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	So I think vtbub it up, then johnny with back-to-back picks. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

03-11-2008, 08:50 AM	#198
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	Working on it __________________

03-11-2008, 09:02 AM	#200
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	2.11 Ted Lindsey (Power Forward) Detroit, Chicago __________________

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