Red Ring of Death - Page 4

cartman · 12-29-2008, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by terpkristin

It's not a RROD problem, but has anybody had any issues with the 360 and the internet connection? My FiOS is working fine, my laptop is connected to my router via wireless with no issues, my PS3 connects without issue (hardline to the router), my XBox 360 isn't connecting (hardline to the router, have tried swapping cables with the PS3 and swapping ports).

After all my shitty (pun intended) problems tonight all I want to do is watch 30 Rock on Netflix and stupid thing can't connect. Now I'm wondering if it's a sign of doom to come.

/tk

One of the menu options tests all the pieces of the network connection, and tell you at what point it is failing. I'm not where I can get to my XBox right now, but I think the option is in System Settings.

terpkristin · 12-29-2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

One of the menu options tests all the pieces of the network connection, and tell you at what point it is failing. I'm not where I can get to my XBox right now, but I think the option is in System Settings.

I found that, but it never got past the first step, saying it couldn't find internet. Unplugged and replugged everything, got a connection. No idea why it wasn't working or why it is working now.

/tk

gstelmack · 12-29-2008, 08:53 PM

There is a trouble-shooter in the 360 dashboard. Does it tell you where it fails? Connecting to the network at all? Was it working fine yesterday and just started choking today?

terpkristin · 12-29-2008, 09:01 PM

Troubleshooter just says it can't connect, doesn't seem to say where it fails. This is the second or third time this has happened. It's the first time that unplugging everything and re-plugging it in has worked, though. Not complaining, I really wanted to watch 30 Rock on Netflix.

Next time it happens (I'm sure it'll happen again), I'll make sure to keep an eye on the exact wording in the Troubleshooting and post it.

/tk

terpkristin · 12-30-2008, 11:23 AM

Dola,
Happened again now. Troubleshooter says "There's a problem with your connection. Select More Info for a description of the problem and how you can fix it (failed between XBox and Network)."

So I do that and it tests it and says it can't connect to the network, can't get an IP. So I tell it to try again and this time it connects to network, can't get DNS to go to internet.

My router is working fine, I'm hardlined into it right now and doing fine, and green light is flashing on that port (which worked fine this morning at 8 a.m.). I still suspect something in the XBox itself.

/tk

terpkristin · 12-30-2008, 11:25 AM

DOla, now I tell it to try again and it works just fine.

I got nothing.

/tk

Mustang · 12-30-2008, 11:28 AM

You have wireless?

I was getting that too, but come to find out it was the USB port that I had the wireless plugged into on the Xbox went bad so I switched to the front and it worked fine.

terpkristin · 12-30-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

You have wireless?

I was getting that too, but come to find out it was the USB port that I had the wireless plugged into on the Xbox went bad so I switched to the front and it worked fine.

Nope, I'm hardlined in.

For Netflix, I wanted the wired connection.

/tk

Fidatelo · 12-30-2008, 01:29 PM

I had problems with ports not being open on my router, which prevented me from joining a lot of online games (although I was always able to sign in to XBL). You might want to look into this page for some info on ports that it needs access to: Description of Firewall Ports for Xbox LIVE

BrianD · 12-30-2008, 02:29 PM

I had a similar problem with my Xbox 360 when I first connected it. Every time I turned on the box, I failed to connect to Live. After going to the network settings and running the the connection test, it connected fine and reported a "moderate NAT".

To get around my problem, I configured a static IP on the Xbox, made sure to assign DNS settings, and did the port forwarding in the link above. The "moderate NAT" should change to "open NAT" at this point which should allow normal connections.

Kodos · 02-14-2009, 01:53 PM

Add me to the list of RROD victims.

Sun Tzu · 02-14-2009, 02:10 PM

Must have been all those successful onside kicks

Kodos · 02-14-2009, 02:45 PM

Apparently just one will do it.

MizzouRah · 04-04-2009, 05:04 PM

Mine got the RROD last night while playing GH Metiallica.. first song I started playing was "One" and it RRODs.

Put a few towels over it and about 10 mins later I was back in business.. guess I'll be buying an X360 arcade console soon.

Lonnie · 04-04-2009, 11:55 PM

GH Metallica also claimed my 4th RROD yesterday. I figured I would be out of warranty, but the three year extension for RROD was still in effect.

cartman · 04-05-2009, 12:05 AM

Still no RROD for my Xbox 360. I guess I must be extremely fucking lucky...

stevew · 04-05-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Still no RROD for my Xbox 360. I guess I must be extremely fucking lucky...

+1

I am worried about that new HDMI soldering problem that's apparently developing though.

MizzouRah · 04-05-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Still no RROD for my Xbox 360. I guess I must be extremely fucking lucky...

NO CARTMAN NOOOOO!!!!! Shhhhh.....

SegRat · 04-05-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Still no RROD for my Xbox 360. I guess I must be extremely fucking lucky...

Same here. Stll running strong.

MizzouRah · 04-05-2009, 09:01 PM

It's officially dead.. MS to ship me a box tomorrow.

mauchow · 04-05-2009, 09:12 PM

No more RROD for me... PS3 ftw.

I had a 360 for two years and finally parted with it after RROD once.

I can't believe Game Stop's low trade in prices. Unbelievable that people actually go and trade them in there. I was offered like $70 for my Xbox... no thanks. I ended up getting about $250 for all my stuff on Craigslist. I could have gotten higher had I been a little bit more patient.

SackAttack · 04-05-2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

It's officially dead.. MS to ship me a box tomorrow.

Well if you hadn't poisoned it with a certain baseball game it probably wouldn't have died!

MizzouRah · 04-06-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Well if you hadn't poisoned it with a certain baseball game it probably wouldn't have died!

Kodos · 04-06-2009, 01:46 PM

I'm definitely considering buying more games for PS3 from here on out. Although Xbox live is obviously better and more populated with FOFCers than PS3 online.

Decisions, decisions.

Landshark44 · 04-06-2009, 03:48 PM

after reading this thread, i went up in the attic and got my 360 down to take a look at it. it broke about a year ago, and xbox wanted $180 to repair it. it was my fourth one, and i told them i'd rather put it in the attic. gamestop said they would give me $40 for it.....

it powers up fine, and i can see all dashboard screens on my tv. the issue is that when i put a disk in, i hear a grinding sound while the on-screen display says "reading". the disk never does get "read"....

called them today, and they said they would still fix it for $180

i can't bring myself to send microsoft the money, but i would love to fix it and play some games. someone please help....

Rich1033 · 04-06-2009, 05:22 PM

Damn $180? That is steep. May as well just buy an arcade and switch your HD over at that price.

Landshark44 · 04-06-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich1033

Damn $180? That is steep. May as well just buy an arcade and switch your HD over at that price.

i can't buy another one, knowing how crappy they are....

can i?

JediKooter · 04-06-2009, 06:15 PM

I think a new one is, what, $199 and they want to charge $180 to fix it!? Crazy.

Big Fo · 04-06-2009, 06:18 PM

If you have a lot of 360 games and selling all of those would result in nearly as big a loss as buying a new system then maybe?

Although if it would make it the fifth one you've had to buy I would just say "screw em."

Landshark44 · 04-06-2009, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JediKooter

I think a new one is, what, $199 and they want to charge $180 to fix it!? Crazy.

i mentioned that to them....

then i called gamestop. they sell used ones for $170, and they'll give me $40 for the one i have that doesn't work...

Landshark44 · 04-06-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

If you have a lot of 360 games and selling all of those would result in nearly as big a loss as buying a new system then maybe?

Although if it would make it the fifth one you've had to buy I would just say "screw em."

i don't have a lot of games, because it's always been broke. so, at least thats not an issue.

JediKooter · 04-06-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Landshark44

i mentioned that to them....

then i called gamestop. they sell used ones for $170, and they'll give me $40 for the one i have that doesn't work...

And all it probably needs is a new dvd player which are cheap as hell. I wouldn't blame you for not getting another one and going with the PS3.

Scoobz0202 · 04-06-2009, 08:06 PM

180 dollars? really?

My launch 360 is out of warranty and I called them a week ago just for precautionary measures. I asked if the system would happen to go out on me how much would it cost to fix. They told me 100 dollars.

Landshark44 · 04-06-2009, 08:14 PM

Really,

I'd give them $100, but they told me more.

Scoobz0202 · 04-06-2009, 08:16 PM

They told me if i did it over the phone or something it was around 120 or 130, but if I did it online it would cost 100.

I wonder if it has to do with the problem that your Xbox is having? I don't recall really giving them a specific problem, though, so that is probably not right.

ColtCrazy · 04-06-2009, 08:18 PM

I'm wondering if buying a bigger hard drive might help the disc drive last longer. That's the one thing that worries me because it's so loud otherwise. I have one game on the hard drive,NCAA 09, and the game runs so smooth.

MizzouRah · 04-06-2009, 10:09 PM

I had the coolest MS tech support guy on the phone who told me, we don't ship boxes anymore... well, unless you get angry.. I said, no biggie.. then he says calm down, we'll ship you a box sir.. and laughed.

He told me I would also get a month of XBL for free as well. Why can't all support people be that nice?

SegRat · 04-06-2009, 11:19 PM

What is so good about the arcade 360?

Mizzou B-ball fan · 04-07-2009, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Landshark44

i mentioned that to them....

then i called gamestop. they sell used ones for $170, and they'll give me $40 for the one i have that doesn't work...

Just for the record, many of those $170 machines that they are selling used are nothing more than reconditioned units that they bought for $40 broken.

I agree with you that you run the risk of even a new Arcade having a failure at some point, but you're playing with fire if you purchase a used 360 from Gamestop. That's just asking for trouble.

Dr. Sak · 04-07-2009, 07:29 AM

Yeah you are almost better off selling them your old one for $40 and just buying a new arcade version for $29 more than they are selling the used ones for...that's what I did.

MizzouRah · 04-17-2009, 09:09 AM

Yeay my 360 is on its way home!

EagleFan · 06-06-2009, 04:45 PM

Crap!!!! I've been victimized!!!

MizzouRah · 06-06-2009, 10:17 PM

Ahh.. that sucks EF!

EagleFan · 06-06-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Ahh.. that sucks EF!

This evening has been a test. Wife and kids up in bed and I kept thinking "maybe I'll try a couple fights... sh$%!!" "maybe I'll fire up Grid...sh$$!!" "a DVD...sh$%".

atatange1 · 06-06-2009, 10:53 PM

I got RROD a couple weeks ago, and my warranty was up but they cover RROD longer and I should get it back now in a couple days.

MizzouRah · 06-07-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

This evening has been a test. Wife and kids up in bed and I kept thinking "maybe I'll try a couple fights... sh$%!!" "maybe I'll fire up Grid...sh$$!!" "a DVD...sh$%".

The towel trick should get you through the weekend.

thesloppy · 06-07-2009, 10:40 AM

I had a friend just get his second RROD on a refurbed 360 he bought through ebay......thankfully he had a Square Trade warranty....or not.

Square Trade sent him an email saying after he tried to make his claim saying: "Hey sorry, we don't cover Xbox 360s sold through ebay anymore, because they fail to often, and we haven't since December 2008. Sorry we sold you that warranty, and told you you were covered, some slip through the cracks, here's the money back for your warranty."

Ouch! How is that not illegal? They sold him the warranty, and they ARE still warrantying earlier purchased xboxes (and refurbs from ecost or geeks.com), so it's not like they're not warrantying them at all. Even worse, this is actually the second time it's failed, and they covered and fixed the first one, so as far as I'm concerned, THIS xbox didn't come from ebay, it came from Square Trade...but now it's not covered. What the hell?

Eaglesfan27 · 06-07-2009, 10:47 AM

I don't know about illegal, but that certainly seems like a breech of contract. I'm sure a lawyer would cost more than a new Xbox, but that is something I might consider going to a lawyer for anyway.

albionmoonlight · 06-07-2009, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesloppy

I had a friend just get his second RROD on a refurbed 360 he bought through ebay......thankfully he had a Square Trade warranty....or not.

Square Trade sent him an email saying after he tried to make his claim saying: "Hey sorry, we don't cover Xbox 360s sold through ebay anymore, because they fail to often, and we haven't since December 2008. Sorry we sold you that warranty, and told you you were covered, some slip through the cracks, here's the money back for your warranty."

Ouch! How is that not illegal? They sold him the warranty, and they ARE still warrantying earlier purchased xboxes (and refurbs from ecost or geeks.com), so it's not like they're not warrantying them at all. Even worse, this is actually the second time it's failed, and they covered and fixed the first one, so as far as I'm concerned, THIS xbox didn't come from ebay, it came from Square Trade...but now it's not covered. What the hell?

He's got a good case. What state is he in?

fantom1979 · 06-07-2009, 11:29 AM

Did he get a contract or a terms of service with his warranty? I know I have seen in warranties before with a statement like "we reserve the right to cancel this warranty at any time for any reason". I am not sure if that would even hold up in court, but it would be interesting to see what language they put in the service agreement.

12-29-2008, 08:53 PM	#153
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	There is a trouble-shooter in the 360 dashboard. Does it tell you where it fails? Connecting to the network at all? Was it working fine yesterday and just started choking today? __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

12-29-2008, 09:01 PM	#154
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	Troubleshooter just says it can't connect, doesn't seem to say where it fails. This is the second or third time this has happened. It's the first time that unplugging everything and re-plugging it in has worked, though. Not complaining, I really wanted to watch 30 Rock on Netflix. Next time it happens (I'm sure it'll happen again), I'll make sure to keep an eye on the exact wording in the Troubleshooting and post it. /tk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

12-30-2008, 11:23 AM	#155
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	Dola, Happened again now. Troubleshooter says "There's a problem with your connection. Select More Info for a description of the problem and how you can fix it (failed between XBox and Network)." So I do that and it tests it and says it can't connect to the network, can't get an IP. So I tell it to try again and this time it connects to network, can't get DNS to go to internet. My router is working fine, I'm hardlined into it right now and doing fine, and green light is flashing on that port (which worked fine this morning at 8 a.m.). I still suspect something in the XBox itself. /tk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

12-30-2008, 11:25 AM	#156
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	DOla, now I tell it to try again and it works just fine. I got nothing. /tk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

12-30-2008, 11:28 AM	#157
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12-30-2008, 01:29 PM	#159
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	I had problems with ports not being open on my router, which prevented me from joining a lot of online games (although I was always able to sign in to XBL). You might want to look into this page for some info on ports that it needs access to: Description of Firewall Ports for Xbox LIVE __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

12-30-2008, 02:29 PM	#160
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I had a similar problem with my Xbox 360 when I first connected it. Every time I turned on the box, I failed to connect to Live. After going to the network settings and running the the connection test, it connected fine and reported a "moderate NAT". To get around my problem, I configured a static IP on the Xbox, made sure to assign DNS settings, and did the port forwarding in the link above. The "moderate NAT" should change to "open NAT" at this point which should allow normal connections.

02-14-2009, 01:53 PM	#161
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Add me to the list of RROD victims. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

02-14-2009, 02:10 PM	#162
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	Must have been all those successful onside kicks __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

02-14-2009, 02:45 PM	#163
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Apparently just one will do it. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

04-04-2009, 05:04 PM	#164
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Mine got the RROD last night while playing GH Metiallica.. first song I started playing was "One" and it RRODs. Put a few towels over it and about 10 mins later I was back in business.. guess I'll be buying an X360 arcade console soon.

04-04-2009, 11:55 PM	#165
Lonnie High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Midlothian, TX	GH Metallica also claimed my 4th RROD yesterday. I figured I would be out of warranty, but the three year extension for RROD was still in effect. __________________ Lonnie

04-05-2009, 12:05 AM	#166
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Still no RROD for my Xbox 360. I guess I must be extremely fucking lucky... __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

04-05-2009, 09:01 PM	#170
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	It's officially dead.. MS to ship me a box tomorrow.

04-05-2009, 09:12 PM	#171
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	No more RROD for me... PS3 ftw. I had a 360 for two years and finally parted with it after RROD once. I can't believe Game Stop's low trade in prices. Unbelievable that people actually go and trade them in there. I was offered like $70 for my Xbox... no thanks. I ended up getting about $250 for all my stuff on Craigslist. I could have gotten higher had I been a little bit more patient.

04-06-2009, 01:46 PM	#174
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I'm definitely considering buying more games for PS3 from here on out. Although Xbox live is obviously better and more populated with FOFCers than PS3 online. Decisions, decisions. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

04-06-2009, 03:48 PM	#175
Landshark44 High School Varsity Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Atlantic City, NJ	after reading this thread, i went up in the attic and got my 360 down to take a look at it. it broke about a year ago, and xbox wanted $180 to repair it. it was my fourth one, and i told them i'd rather put it in the attic. gamestop said they would give me $40 for it..... it powers up fine, and i can see all dashboard screens on my tv. the issue is that when i put a disk in, i hear a grinding sound while the on-screen display says "reading". the disk never does get "read".... called them today, and they said they would still fix it for $180 i can't bring myself to send microsoft the money, but i would love to fix it and play some games. someone please help.... Last edited by Landshark44 : 04-06-2009 at 03:50 PM.

04-06-2009, 05:22 PM	#176
Rich1033 High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sylvania, Ohio	Damn $180? That is steep. May as well just buy an arcade and switch your HD over at that price.

04-06-2009, 06:15 PM	#178
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	I think a new one is, what, $199 and they want to charge $180 to fix it!? Crazy. __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

04-06-2009, 06:18 PM	#179
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	If you have a lot of 360 games and selling all of those would result in nearly as big a loss as buying a new system then maybe? Although if it would make it the fifth one you've had to buy I would just say "screw em."

04-06-2009, 08:06 PM	#183
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	180 dollars? really? My launch 360 is out of warranty and I called them a week ago just for precautionary measures. I asked if the system would happen to go out on me how much would it cost to fix. They told me 100 dollars.

04-06-2009, 08:14 PM	#184
Landshark44 High School Varsity Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Atlantic City, NJ	Really, I'd give them $100, but they told me more.

04-06-2009, 08:16 PM	#185
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	They told me if i did it over the phone or something it was around 120 or 130, but if I did it online it would cost 100. I wonder if it has to do with the problem that your Xbox is having? I don't recall really giving them a specific problem, though, so that is probably not right.

04-06-2009, 08:18 PM	#186
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	I'm wondering if buying a bigger hard drive might help the disc drive last longer. That's the one thing that worries me because it's so loud otherwise. I have one game on the hard drive,NCAA 09, and the game runs so smooth.

04-06-2009, 10:09 PM	#187
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	I had the coolest MS tech support guy on the phone who told me, we don't ship boxes anymore... well, unless you get angry.. I said, no biggie.. then he says calm down, we'll ship you a box sir.. and laughed. He told me I would also get a month of XBL for free as well. Why can't all support people be that nice?

04-06-2009, 11:19 PM	#188
SegRat High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Oshkosh, WI	What is so good about the arcade 360? __________________ USFL: Charlotte Fightn' Squirrels

04-07-2009, 07:29 AM	#190
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Yeah you are almost better off selling them your old one for $40 and just buying a new arcade version for $29 more than they are selling the used ones for...that's what I did.

04-17-2009, 09:09 AM	#191
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Yeay my 360 is on its way home!

06-06-2009, 04:45 PM	#192
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Crap!!!! I've been victimized!!!

06-06-2009, 10:17 PM	#193
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Ahh.. that sucks EF!

06-06-2009, 10:53 PM	#195
atatange1 High School JV Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: WA state	I got RROD a couple weeks ago, and my warranty was up but they cover RROD longer and I should get it back now in a couple days.

06-07-2009, 10:40 AM	#197
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	I had a friend just get his second RROD on a refurbed 360 he bought through ebay......thankfully he had a Square Trade warranty....or not. Square Trade sent him an email saying after he tried to make his claim saying: "Hey sorry, we don't cover Xbox 360s sold through ebay anymore, because they fail to often, and we haven't since December 2008. Sorry we sold you that warranty, and told you you were covered, some slip through the cracks, here's the money back for your warranty." Ouch! How is that not illegal? They sold him the warranty, and they ARE still warrantying earlier purchased xboxes (and refurbs from ecost or geeks.com), so it's not like they're not warrantying them at all. Even worse, this is actually the second time it's failed, and they covered and fixed the first one, so as far as I'm concerned, THIS xbox didn't come from ebay, it came from Square Trade...but now it's not covered. What the hell?

06-07-2009, 10:47 AM	#198
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I don't know about illegal, but that certainly seems like a breech of contract. I'm sure a lawyer would cost more than a new Xbox, but that is something I might consider going to a lawyer for anyway. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

06-07-2009, 11:29 AM	#200
fantom1979 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sterling Heights, Mi	Did he get a contract or a terms of service with his warranty? I know I have seen in warranties before with a statement like "we reserve the right to cancel this warranty at any time for any reason". I am not sure if that would even hold up in court, but it would be interesting to see what language they put in the service agreement. Last edited by fantom1979 : 06-07-2009 at 11:30 AM.

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