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Join Date: Jan 2002
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How could you trust his judgement on anything else? How?
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#152 |
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: toronto
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Mukler gets fired?
What are they doing in Ottawa?
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#153 |
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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The right thing, apparently.
Only took them three more years than it should have.
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#154 | |
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: toronto
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Sounds like Murray is gonna be the GM......Wil he coach too? Odd to fire Mukler after he brought them to a Stanley cup final...no?
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#155 | |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Where Hip Hop lives
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Hey, if this follows Mirray's past pattern, Ottawa should be perfectly happy. He moved from coach to GM in Anaheim, and the very next year we started our three conference finals in four seasons (and we all know what happened this year). |
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#156 | |
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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I'm willing to bet that we'll find out there was a power struggle between Murray and Muckler, and Melnyk chose Murray. Definitely the right call. Hm... how would Pat Quinn look in Ottawa?
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#157 |
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: toronto
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There would be riots in Toronto. You think Murray won't coach anymore?
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#158 | |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Where Hip Hop lives
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I think it depends on if Murray got his fill here in Ottawa. He left Anaheim for the chance to coach again. Ironically, Burke came on and lowballed Babcock, who left for Detroit. So we would have had an opening at head coach anyway. Not that I mind that we ended up with Carlyle. ![]() |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Oh, one last thing. As you said, Pandolfo was at 8 PIM at some point in March. He didn't take another penalty all season until Game 6 of the playoff series against Tampa. He took a penalty on February 14 against Montreal, and that was his last until April 22 at Tampa in the playoffs.
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA
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Flyers make a trade with Nashville
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Keene, NH
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that's a big trade, all right.
so, if I understand correctly, technically the Flyers aren't allowed to talk to Hartnell and Timonen until July 1st unless their rights are traded. Obviously, they had to have been having some talks with the pair, as the trade and signings are being annouced at the same time.
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Royal Oak, MI
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Huh. A very interesting deal. I can't say I've seen anything like it. A great deal for the Flyers. Hartnell and Timonen are good, young players. Hartnell should fit in well in Philadelphia. That said, both contracts seem a bit steeper than I would be comfortable. $4.2 million for Hartnell is about $1 million - $700K above where I would have been happy with and pretty much the same would go for Timonen's deal, I'd like to see it about $1 million below that. It's interesting... I am in the middle of a Strat-O-Matic Hockey league and where I'm the coach/GM of Nashville and I just traded Hartnell and Timonen last week to Carolina for Erik Cole and Aaron Ward. It was destined to be.
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Hockey Boy
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Royal Oak, MI
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For perspective, Pronger counts $6.25 million a year against the cap. While he's really one of the top bargains in the NHL (after Zetterberg perhaps), Timonen is not worth that kind of money.
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#164 | |
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Keene, NH
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but I don't think that there is much doubt that either guy would be getting paid this offseason. there's a lot of money to be had out there. I would have taken Hartnell in the $3 m range. Timonen I knew would be above 6 (and therefore too overpaid). somewhere, Tom Poti's agent is looking at new yachts. here's my thing: you're Hartnell and Timonen. you've gotten a big offer from the Flyers. yay. In 2 more weeks, you are going to have offers from other teams. Maybe even get teams involved in a bidding war. It's not like no one else is going to have interest. I assume the Timonen on the Flyers is related to Kimmo, so maybe that's where he wants to go anyway...but geez, guys, why not just wait until July 1st and see what your options are. I would think the chance of you NOT getting at least what the Flyers offers to be slim.
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#165 | |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Los Angeles
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holy expensive! whats their cap situation? does this take them out of the running for one of the top 3 centers? |
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#166 |
Pro Rookie
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Canada eh
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All depends on what the cap is raised to as well as to what they can still go out and do. That said, Philly just resigned Niittymaki, but don't they also still have Biron and Pitkanen to try and reup as well?
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#167 |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA
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Before this deal they had 19 million to spend.
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Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Keene, NH
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if nhlnumbers is correct, this will put them around $42 million.
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#170 |
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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We're only about seven or eight similar signings away from the Bryan McCabe deal seeming reasonable.
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#171 | |
Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Keene, NH
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with Scott Hannan and Sheldon Souray still on the board, even
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#172 |
Hockey Boy
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Royal Oak, MI
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So, based on the TSN article and this trade, it looks like Nasvhille is switching gears and is going into "cost saving" mode.
They don't have Forsberg or any of the assets (other than their first round pick this year) that they traded for him, Hartnell and Timonen are gone, Kariya is an UFA and after these moves it's likely he wont be back or Nashville wont be willing or able to match his offers, which means that Nashville takes a step back. That makes an already weak division all the weaker. It could also mean that there will be just one more crap ass team Wings' fans get the pleasure of watching 8 times a year.
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#173 |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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I saw one writer over the weekend refer to it as "scorched earth" ... a la the '98 Marlins or the Indians from Major League.
Certainly, saving money while the ownership question is in limbo is a part of it, but it seems that that it also has the (intentional) side benefit of diluting the product, dropping ticket sales, and therefore making it easier to get out of their lease with the city in a year or two. Last edited by Simms : 06-18-2007 at 05:37 PM. |
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#174 | |
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Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: The State of Rutgers
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It also means the Predators will be in Hamilton in 08-09.
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#175 |
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#176 |
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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There are strange rumors going around Ottawa today that Muckler is actually much older than 73. Not sure what to make of that.
Also, there's a strong rumor that one of the Sens star players (not Redden) has a serious cocaine habit. The word is that the local police have bent over backwards for the guy, but it's got to the point where the next time he steps out of line they may need to nail him. Roy Mlakar has been calling in favors for the guy, the story goes, but he may be out of chances.
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#177 |
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Michigan
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Geez, an NHL player with a coke habit?
Who woulda thunkit. |
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#178 | |
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Troy, NY
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Heatley? Comrie? Vermette?
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Edmonton, Alberta (but still wishing I was in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada)
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There are a lot of players in the NHL with serious cocaine habits. ![]()
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#180 |
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: toronto
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It's too bad that you have to dismantle a hockey team in order to relocate it.
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#181 | |
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Winnipeg, MB
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Unless you're the Nordiques...
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#182 |
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Toronto
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#183 |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Royal Oak, MI
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I just saw that Brett Hull is not coming back to NBC. He's going to take a more active front office role with the Dallas Stars.
Good and good.
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA
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That's the best news I've heard all day. Now we can go a broadcast without him trying to say his toe wasn't in the crease. |
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#186 |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Los Angeles
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wow. jiggy back to the ducks, 4 yr, 24 m.
i dont know why, but i never saw it coming. |
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#187 | |
Hockey Boy
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Royal Oak, MI
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A good deal for Jiggy and the Ducks. Given his performance over the last few years, in particular, in the playoffs, he earned that kind of money. I would have to imagine they'd want to trade Bryzgalov now/he'd want to be traded. The Ducks are really in a good place right not capwise. They have a few cap friendly deals and the core of their team is a bunch of a younger guys, many who are still in their first, very cheap, contracts. It's scary to think about, but this team is likely only to get better.
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#188 | |
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Canada eh
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Just wait until Ryan is suiting up for them next year, talk about a nice situation for him to be walking into.
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Join Date: Nov 2003
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Great news for the Ducks. He was making all the right noises about coming back, but you still never know.
The big news right now is that Scott Niedermayer has told Brian Burke that he is considering retiring. That would be a complete disaster for our chances of repeating. |
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So, that's good news for Ducks fans, at least.
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: New Mexico
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Question: Is there any reason for optimism in Boston? I'm pretty close to giving up.
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High School Varsity
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Ashville, OH
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Just talked to my season ticket rep and she's getting us lower bowl seats for tonight, so I'll have a much closer view to the stage and floor and I will be able to take pictures. Anybody have any certain team/prospect they would like me to take pictures for when they come up (or any other type of pictures)?
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Canada eh
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If the Oilers keep any of their picks, and shots would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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#195 |
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Keene, NH
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happy to see any Avalanche picks.
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#196 |
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Canada eh
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Any predictions on draft day deals? I'm still quite optimistic that the Oilers get something done for Pitkanen or Redden (preferably the former) and curious to see if the rumors about them making a deal to get Gomez's rights so they can try and sign him before he hits free agency come to pass. Now if they make a run at Richards, well, it'd be great so long as they cap number does in fact go up...
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#197 | |
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there's always the Monkeys With Typewriters principle. Someday, they'll get it right by accident.
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#198 |
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: toronto
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Toskula to the leafs for 3 draft picks.
Bye bye Razor.....
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Keene, NH
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I assume you are kidding (half-kidding, because this is the Leafs). I wonder if a few goalies will find new homes this weekend. Toskala, Bryzgalov, Fernandez...all guys that are supposed to be on the trade market right now. With Giguere coming off the market - basically leaving Mathieu Garon as the big "get" on the FA market - it would seem to be time for all the other dominoes to start falling.
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#200 | |
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: toronto
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I'm not kidding DD.....it's gonna be announced soon.
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