NFL Week 1 Discussion - Page 4

kcchief19 · 09-10-2006, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Somebody please explain what happened to Green, I haven't seen it.

Green scrambled for a first down and slid. Geathers started going for the hit just after Green started his slide. He ended up putting his shoulder into Green's helmet, snapping Green's head back and slamming it against the ground.

Green still hasn't moved and the stretcher is coming out. Very scary. This doesn't look like it's being treated as a concussion ... it looks like a back/spinal injury.

tanglewood · 09-10-2006, 01:57 PM

The hit wasn't helmet to helmet, it ended up shoulder to chest but was so hard that it jolted Green's head into the ground. I don't think Gathers actually hit Green's helmet.

sterlingice · 09-10-2006, 01:59 PM

I don't see his eyes open on the gurney

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Pumpy Tudors · 09-10-2006, 02:01 PM

The young Kellen Winslow just scored his first NFL touchdown. He's a SOLDIER!

GrantDawg · 09-10-2006, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchief19

Green still hasn't moved and the stretcher is coming out. Very scary. This doesn't look like it's being treated as a concussion ... it looks like a back/spinal injury.

That's standard for this kind of thing. They'll immobilize him untill they get X-ray's.

RendeR · 09-10-2006, 02:02 PM

Keep me updated on Trent guys, I can't see the game and I really hope he's alright.

kcchief19 · 09-10-2006, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tanglewood

The hit wasn't helmet to helmet, it ended up shoulder to chest but was so hard that it jolted Green's head into the ground. I don't think Gathers actually hit Green's helmet.

It wasn't helmet to helmet, it was more shoulder to head, which frankly is just as bad. And despite what the announcers are saying, the hit clearly came after Green gave himself up.

I haven't been paying much attention to these clows broadcasting the game, but they just said as Green was being taken off on the stretcher that "it looks much worse than it is" because the NFL doesn't want to take any chances. This despite the fact that Green didn't move for 10 minutes, didn't move his hands at all when they were carting him off and appeared to have his eyes closed. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now, but if Green's injury is serious they should be beaten with sticks and kicked in the balls.

GrantDawg · 09-10-2006, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

The young Kellen Winslow just scored his first NFL touchdown. He's a SOLDIER!

Did he immediately slam dunk the ball over the goal-post, fall wrong on his leg, compound fracture and out for the season?

GrantDawg · 09-10-2006, 02:04 PM

Is Peyton Manning in every other commercial?

sterlingice · 09-10-2006, 02:05 PM

As if the Chiefs didn't have enough problems on offense, they have now completely fallen apart.

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Pumpy Tudors · 09-10-2006, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Did he immediately slam dunk the ball over the goal-post, fall wrong on his leg, compound fracture and out for the season?

I was hoping for that, but no. I think that'll happen when Braylon Edwards scores a touchdown this year, though.

wade moore · 09-10-2006, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Is Peyton Manning in every other commercial?

yes.

And I say that as a Peyton fan.

He is WAY too overexposed for his personality level.

sterlingice · 09-10-2006, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Did he immediately slam dunk the ball over the goal-post, fall wrong on his leg, compound fracture and out for the season?

The Jose Canseco of the NFL?

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molson · 09-10-2006, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Is Peyton Manning in every other commercial?

I loved it when the Pats fans would mock him by chanting "cut that meat".

Pumpy Tudors · 09-10-2006, 02:08 PM

Browns CB Leigh Bodden has the clamps on Joe Horn today. Horn has been shut down. The Saints are getting 5 yards per carry, though, so they might as well keep running the football. The score is still 9-7, Saints on top.

molson · 09-10-2006, 02:10 PM

How long before Maroney wins the Pats starting RB spot outright? Though with the state of the passing game, there's probably plenty of carries for both him and Dillon.

DeToxRox · 09-10-2006, 02:10 PM

Reggie Bush over 100 yards

Should add: 100 yards total offense

kcchief19 · 09-10-2006, 02:10 PM

Ah. It's Gus Johnson. 'Nuff said. He's the only play-by-play guy who makes you think Ian Eagle isn't all that bad.

Nantz and Gumbel are fine. Enberg is old and has lost it, but still has the voice and enthusiasm. Kevin Harlan is underrated. But once you get down to Gus Johnson, Ian Eagle and Bill Macatee, the CBS broadcating team is the dregs of the industry. Who exactly do you have to blow to get a PBP job at CBS?

wade moore · 09-10-2006, 02:10 PM

That was a TERRIBLE pass by Vick.

GrantDawg · 09-10-2006, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

That was a TERRIBLE pass by Vick.

The last two were. He has had good throws all day, then suddenly he just loses aim.

General Mike · 09-10-2006, 02:12 PM

Herm Edwards is the worst coach ever.

wade moore · 09-10-2006, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

The last two were. He has had good throws all day, then suddenly he just loses aim.

Agreed. That Lelie pass could have been huge though, he was really pretty wide open.

kcchief19 · 09-10-2006, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Is Peyton Manning in every other commercial?

On a related subject, am I the only one who finds the Miller Light commercials with the fake newsconferences stupid? It would have been a lot more funny -- OK, marginally more funny -- if they had used real press conference clips instead of making their own to try and look like they were real.

GrantDawg · 09-10-2006, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

Agreed. That Lelie pass could have been huge though, he was really pretty wide open.

I do wonder if Leliee didn't run the wrong route, though. It may have been just not being on the same page.

Rizon · 09-10-2006, 02:14 PM

Am I becomming less tolerant, or are the refs just getting progressively worse each year?

* I have to add those new ref uniforms are hideous. Even my wife wanted to know what the heck they were wearing.

molson · 09-10-2006, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by General Mike

Herm Edwards is the worst coach ever.

Rod Rust was worse.

Pumpy Tudors · 09-10-2006, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchief19

On a related subject, am I the only one who finds the Miller Light commercials with the fake newsconferences stupid? It would have been a lot more funny -- OK, marginally more funny -- if they had used real press conference clips instead of making their own to try and look like they were real.

I completely agree with this. If they're using real clips, it's funny. If they're not trying to make it look like they're using real clips, it's almost funny. To use fake clips and try to make them look real is stupid, though.

GrantDawg · 09-10-2006, 02:16 PM

VICK IS GRABBING HIS FLIPPIN KNEE!

molson · 09-10-2006, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Am I becomming less tolerant, or are the refs just getting progressively worse each year?
.

At the very least, they seem to be getting worse on pass interference calls. (Or the game is getting too fast to conistently get those right)

RendeR · 09-10-2006, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Am I becomming less tolerant, or are the refs just getting progressively worse each year?

* I have to add those new ref uniforms are hideous. Even my wife wanted to know what the heck they were wearing.

The officiating sucks ass everywhere these days. I've never seen so many blown calls as I've seen in the last 2-3 years. pathetic really.

GrantDawg · 09-10-2006, 02:17 PM

Ok. He's up. I think Dunn just hit his knee with his shoe.

kcchief19 · 09-10-2006, 02:18 PM

Trent Green has feeling in his extremities, but doesn't remember what happened.

Radii · 09-10-2006, 02:19 PM

Carolina is terrible. This is just awful.

SirFozzie · 09-10-2006, 02:19 PM

Pats driving in an attempt to tie the game or take the lead..

wade moore · 09-10-2006, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchief19

Trent Green has feeling in his extremities, but doesn't remember what happened.

They just showed the replay in the Falcons game.

The hit was bad, should have been a penalty probably, but I don't know that it is the blatant suspencion everyone is saying it should be.

Anyway, good to hear that he has feeling.

sterlingice · 09-10-2006, 02:20 PM

I do not relish listening to sports talk tomorrow in KC.

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molson · 09-10-2006, 02:23 PM

Finally saw the Green play. That's why the NFL tries to protect the QBs, and they're right to do it. Big time fine, and I think the suspension depends on Green's injuries.

sterlingice · 09-10-2006, 02:24 PM

And that seals up the win for Cincy.

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GrantDawg · 09-10-2006, 02:24 PM

Is there anybody in the NFL as bad as Vick on faking a hand-off? With as much of a run offense the Falcons have, he could just actually fake a hand-off, he'd probably have twice the TD passes.

wade moore · 09-10-2006, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

Finally saw the Green play. That's why the NFL tries to protect the QBs, and they're right to do it. Big time fine, and I think the suspension depends on Green's injuries.

I don't get this. I just don't think it was THAT bad.. it was borderline timing imo..

penalty worthy, yes.. but "big time fine" i just don't see.. Green was maybe 1/2 second into his slide when the browns guy left his feet.

cartman · 09-10-2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by General Mike

Herm Edwards is the worst coach ever.

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Originally Posted by molson

Rod Rust was worse.

No love (or lack thereof) for Kotite?

wade moore · 09-10-2006, 02:26 PM

In fact, the more times I see the replay, I think that they left their feet at the same time basically.

SirFozzie · 09-10-2006, 02:26 PM

Huge play here, Bills need a first down..

AND THEY GIVE UP A SAFETY! Pats Lead! Woot!

MikeVic · 09-10-2006, 02:27 PM

Nugent: 1 for 3 in FGs and 1 missed XP. Didn't they use a 1st or 2nd rounder on him, I thought?

MikeVic · 09-10-2006, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

I don't get this. I just don't think it was THAT bad.. it was borderline timing imo..

penalty worthy, yes.. but "big time fine" i just don't see.. Green was maybe 1/2 second into his slide when the browns guy left his feet.

Ouch.

molson · 09-10-2006, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

I don't get this. I just don't think it was THAT bad.. it was borderline timing imo..

penalty worthy, yes.. but "big time fine" i just don't see.. Green was maybe 1/2 second into his slide when the browns guy left his feet.

The NFL has fined players pretty liberally for penalties/late hits (even those that aren't penalties). Some of these fines have been ridiculous, i.e. CBs getting fined for punishing, but borderline legal hits on WRs. Here's there's an illegal hit, that injures a QB, and the NFL has a well-publized policy of protecting QBs. I don't think the big fine is in question.

Eaglesfan27 · 09-10-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by General Mike

Herm Edwards is the worst coach ever.

Two words: Rich Kotite.

GrantDawg · 09-10-2006, 02:29 PM

Weeeeeee! Delohomme has definitely just been throwing it up for grabs today.

Pumpy Tudors · 09-10-2006, 02:29 PM

The hit on Green was shoulder-to-chest from the way I see it. If that's the case, it's not a penalty, and I don't really see why a suspension would come either. Geathers was already moving toward Green, and Green slid into him. I find it really hard to apply fault to Geathers here. It was ugly, and it was unfortunate, but I personally don't see how the NFL can punish Geathers with a straight face on this one.

SirFozzie · 09-10-2006, 02:29 PM

and the Pats turn it right over. Ouch

09-10-2006, 01:59 PM	#153
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09-10-2006, 02:01 PM	#154
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	The young Kellen Winslow just scored his first NFL touchdown. He's a SOLDIER! __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

09-10-2006, 02:02 PM	#156
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09-10-2006, 02:05 PM	#160
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	As if the Chiefs didn't have enough problems on offense, they have now completely fallen apart. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

09-10-2006, 02:08 PM	#165
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Browns CB Leigh Bodden has the clamps on Joe Horn today. Horn has been shut down. The Saints are getting 5 yards per carry, though, so they might as well keep running the football. The score is still 9-7, Saints on top. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

09-10-2006, 01:57 PM	#152
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	The hit wasn't helmet to helmet, it ended up shoulder to chest but was so hard that it jolted Green's head into the ground. I don't think Gathers actually hit Green's helmet.

09-10-2006, 02:04 PM	#159
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Is Peyton Manning in every other commercial?

09-10-2006, 02:10 PM	#166
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	How long before Maroney wins the Pats starting RB spot outright? Though with the state of the passing game, there's probably plenty of carries for both him and Dillon.

09-10-2006, 02:10 PM	#167
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Reggie Bush over 100 yards Should add: 100 yards total offense Last edited by DeToxRox : 09-10-2006 at 02:12 PM.

09-10-2006, 02:10 PM	#168
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	Ah. It's Gus Johnson. 'Nuff said. He's the only play-by-play guy who makes you think Ian Eagle isn't all that bad. Nantz and Gumbel are fine. Enberg is old and has lost it, but still has the voice and enthusiasm. Kevin Harlan is underrated. But once you get down to Gus Johnson, Ian Eagle and Bill Macatee, the CBS broadcating team is the dregs of the industry. Who exactly do you have to blow to get a PBP job at CBS?

09-10-2006, 02:12 PM	#171
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	Herm Edwards is the worst coach ever.

09-10-2006, 02:16 PM	#178
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	VICK IS GRABBING HIS FLIPPIN KNEE!

09-10-2006, 02:17 PM	#181
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Ok. He's up. I think Dunn just hit his knee with his shoe.

09-10-2006, 02:18 PM	#182
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	Trent Green has feeling in his extremities, but doesn't remember what happened.

09-10-2006, 02:19 PM	#183
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Carolina is terrible. This is just awful.

09-10-2006, 02:19 PM	#184
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Pats driving in an attempt to tie the game or take the lead.. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-10-2006, 02:20 PM	#186
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	I do not relish listening to sports talk tomorrow in KC. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

09-10-2006, 02:23 PM	#187
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Finally saw the Green play. That's why the NFL tries to protect the QBs, and they're right to do it. Big time fine, and I think the suspension depends on Green's injuries.

09-10-2006, 02:24 PM	#188
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	And that seals up the win for Cincy. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

09-10-2006, 02:24 PM	#189
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Is there anybody in the NFL as bad as Vick on faking a hand-off? With as much of a run offense the Falcons have, he could just actually fake a hand-off, he'd probably have twice the TD passes.

09-10-2006, 02:26 PM	#193
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Huge play here, Bills need a first down.. AND THEY GIVE UP A SAFETY! Pats Lead! Woot! __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com Last edited by SirFozzie : 09-10-2006 at 02:27 PM.

09-10-2006, 02:27 PM	#194
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Nugent: 1 for 3 in FGs and 1 missed XP. Didn't they use a 1st or 2nd rounder on him, I thought?

09-10-2006, 02:29 PM	#198
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Weeeeeee! Delohomme has definitely just been throwing it up for grabs today.

09-10-2006, 02:29 PM	#199
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	The hit on Green was shoulder-to-chest from the way I see it. If that's the case, it's not a penalty, and I don't really see why a suspension would come either. Geathers was already moving toward Green, and Green slid into him. I find it really hard to apply fault to Geathers here. It was ugly, and it was unfortunate, but I personally don't see how the NFL can punish Geathers with a straight face on this one. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

09-10-2006, 02:29 PM	#200
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	and the Pats turn it right over. Ouch __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

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