Raiders vs Patriots Opening Night Thursday - Page 4

cthomer5000 · 09-08-2005, 08:35 PM

Very nice punt return by Tim Dwight.

DaddyTorgo · 09-08-2005, 08:36 PM

there's my D! hella runback by Tim Dwight on that punt too, although I'd be willing to bet he might get scolded for catching it inside the 10...

cthomer5000 · 09-08-2005, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I'd be willing to bet he might get scolded for catching it inside the 10...

I doubt it. If you have a good kick returner, you have to trust his judgement.

DaddyTorgo · 09-08-2005, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

I doubt it. If you have a good kick returner, you have to trust his judgement.

fair nuff. fair nuff.

damn, Deion Branch needs a nickname!!

cthomer5000 · 09-08-2005, 08:39 PM

yay! Troy Brown reception.

DaddyTorgo · 09-08-2005, 08:42 PM

TD! DEION BRANCH!

oh yeah, and Brady's accuracy looks fine I'd say.

JAG · 09-08-2005, 08:44 PM

Yeah, I'm an idiot obviously.

DaddyTorgo · 09-08-2005, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

Yeah, I'm an idiot obviously.

??

DaddyTorgo · 09-08-2005, 08:51 PM

oh that's a bullshit penalty!

ISiddiqui · 09-08-2005, 08:53 PM

Nice throw... is that the first throw they've tried this drive or what?

DaddyTorgo · 09-08-2005, 08:55 PM

way to hold D...way to hold

DeToxRox · 09-08-2005, 08:56 PM

Brady needs to stay away from Branch. Does he not understand the fantasy implications?

DaddyTorgo · 09-08-2005, 09:04 PM

i fucking hate randy moss. even if he hadn't just scored on my team. He's just...trash.

ISiddiqui · 09-08-2005, 09:04 PM

Well that's what Moss brings to you team!

WOW!

VPI97 · 09-08-2005, 09:04 PM

Yeah, that Pats secondary will sure shut Moss down

jbmagic · 09-08-2005, 09:04 PM

73 yard td pass to Randy Moss

cthomer5000 · 09-08-2005, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Well that's what Moss brings to you team!

WOW!

Seriously. DB snoozes for one play and 70+ yard touchdown.

Lorena · 09-08-2005, 09:06 PM

Wow, nice juggling catch!!

ISiddiqui · 09-08-2005, 09:08 PM

There is a reason that he's the best reciever in the game

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TroyF · 09-08-2005, 09:09 PM

Man, I got to this thread late. The Raiders have the deepest set of corners in the game? Yikes.

Not saying the Raiders don't have a chance, but I am saying their DB's suck horribly and their LB's suck worse.

Some thoughts of the game so far:

Madden - "they take six out and they bring six more in" Thanks for the news flash John.

The Patriots defense looked horrible the first drive. They recovered for a few drives and then looked horrific on that long ass. Nice angles there guys.

I'd still say it's likely Branch has more yards than Moss by the time this game is done.

The Patriots will likely find a way to pull it out. They are like a horror movie villan. When you think they are dead, they pop up at the end of the movie and kill someone.

Dillon looks horrible. The O-Line hasn't blocked great for him, but even with that, he doesn't look good. Not fluid at all. The last run was a perfect example, he had yardage to make there and was tackled easily by a DB. Not good.

DaddyTorgo · 09-08-2005, 09:10 PM

bah. so he burned them once. I'll live with that, as long as it doesn't cost them the game and it doesn't happen again. I mean really, all you can hope to do is contain Moss.

jbmagic · 09-08-2005, 09:10 PM

Raiders run defense doing a great job so far on Dillion

DaddyTorgo · 09-08-2005, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

Raiders run defense doing a great job so far on Dillion

too bad they have no secondary. Brady is SHREDDING them.

and how come we all go gaga over Moss' long catch, but no one is gaga over the fact that Brady has just been spot-on on this drive?

TroyF · 09-08-2005, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

Raiders run defense doing a great job so far on Dillion

And Brady is still throwing at will on them. What the hell happens when the Pats start to run and can use play action effectively? Good lord, those DB's aren't even close on most of these passes.

SirFozzie · 09-08-2005, 09:14 PM

Um.. guys on the Raider D?

That three man rush thing..

T'aint workin..

ISiddiqui · 09-08-2005, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

too bad they have no secondary. Brady is SHREDDING them.

and how come we all go gaga over Moss' long catch, but no one is gaga over the fact that Brady has just been spot-on on this drive?

You aren't a homer, are you?

Because Moss' catch was more impressive.

Fouts · 09-08-2005, 09:14 PM

I'm missing Tim Dwight already. He's never been used enough because of his size.

TroyF · 09-08-2005, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

too bad they have no secondary. Brady is SHREDDING them.

and how come we all go gaga over Moss' long catch, but no one is gaga over the fact that Brady has just been spot-on on this drive?

Maybe because it's impressive that Moss can torch the Pats defense and a solid junior high team could light up the Raiers.

No typo. They have no D.

DaddyTorgo · 09-08-2005, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

And Brady is still throwing at will on them. What the hell happens when the Pats start to run and can use play action effectively? Good lord, those DB's aren't even close on most of these passes.

which is why i could care less if Moss gets his hundred yards and his TD (or two). After that he'll go into his little shell and stop caring about the game, and Brady and Dillon will keep shredding the Raiders. Cuz no Pats player is going to quit on the game. Which is why I'd rather have ANY Pats receiver over Moss on my ideal football team. I'd rather have a guy who works works works and doesn't quit then a primadonna who is self-centered and quits on his team.

jbmagic · 09-08-2005, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

too bad they have no secondary. Brady is SHREDDING them.

and how come we all go gaga over Moss' long catch, but no one is gaga over the fact that Brady has just been spot-on on this drive?

yep. he is killing us in middle passes so far.

DaddyTorgo · 09-08-2005, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroyF

Maybe because it's impressive that Moss can torch the Pats defense and a solid junior high team could light up the Raiers.

No typo. They have no D.

oh shit. that's a riot. you owe me a new keyboard

SirFozzie · 09-08-2005, 09:16 PM

BTW, I see things I don't like so far, but maybe I'm being nitpicky.

Hearing Michaels and Madden talk about what looked like Dillon sulking..

Uh oh...

Pats long D.. UH OH..

(The hallmark of the Pats D the last few years was that you had to dink and dunk them, that you couldn't get it all at once)

DaddyTorgo · 09-08-2005, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

BTW, I see things I don't like so far, but maybe I'm being nitpicky.

Hearing Michaels and Madden talk about what looked like Dillon sulking..

Uh oh...

Pats long D.. UH OH..

(The hallmark of the Pats D the last few years was that you had to dink and dunk them, that you couldn't get it all at once)

yeah but Fozz it's Randy Moss. I don't think you can expect to stop Moss. I'll want to see another week or two before I panic about their long-D.

MizzouRah · 09-08-2005, 09:19 PM

Good game, welcome back NFL!!

TroyF · 09-08-2005, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

BTW, I see things I don't like so far, but maybe I'm being nitpicky.

Hearing Michaels and Madden talk about what looked like Dillon sulking..

Uh oh...

Pats long D.. UH OH..

(The hallmark of the Pats D the last few years was that you had to dink and dunk them, that you couldn't get it all at once)

Dillon really looks bad to me tonight. I know it's early and I know he's only had a few carries, but I don't like the way he looks at all. He looks stiff. He's not breaking tackles and DB's are dropping him with ease. too early to be deeply concerned, but it's something I'll be watching the rest of the night.

DaddyTorgo · 09-08-2005, 09:22 PM

is 32 Jordan? Dude has some serious hair!

cthomer5000 · 09-08-2005, 09:22 PM

memo to both teams: STOP SCORING.

TroyF · 09-08-2005, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

memo to both teams: STOP SCORING.

You really bet the under I take it?

Well, no better time than week one to learn a great lesson. Never, ever, ever, bet the under against a team with as bad of a defense as the Raiders. Especially if the opposing teams QB has a pulse.

OK, Pats going into the two minute drill. This is like one of those name that tune things. I think the Patriots will score a TD in SEVEN plays.

SirFozzie · 09-08-2005, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

memo to both teams: STOP SCORING.

From:The Oakland Raiders and The New England Patriots
To: cthomer5000
RE: Request to stop scoring.

We've considered your request.

Sorry, the answer is no.

Enjoy the track meet.

cthomer5000 · 09-08-2005, 09:26 PM

terrible call on the face mask. that's the 5 yard variety.

DaddyTorgo · 09-08-2005, 09:27 PM

that looks like a catch too. hand under the ball as the hand hits the ground, ball stays still in his hands. that's a catch fuckers.

TroyF · 09-08-2005, 09:28 PM

Wow, they stopped em. Took a horrible pass by Brady to do it, but they stopped em. Looks like I won't get to the final round.

sabotai · 09-08-2005, 09:29 PM

I vote catch. (Doesn't matter now...)

DaddyTorgo · 09-08-2005, 09:30 PM

still time for an INT return for a TD. Still could be 24-14 the half...

NEW PLAN: HOW BOUT THE BACK JUDGE (or whatever official that is) GETS THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY so Jordan can be stopped short of a 1st down? GRRR

TroyF · 09-08-2005, 09:32 PM

FWIW, I'd have voted no catch. The ball was moving, I don't think he ever had it before he hit the ground. Oh well.

End of the half. 17-14 Pats.

cthomer5000 · 09-08-2005, 09:33 PM

Anyone's game at this point, but the Pats have been far more consistent on offense.

jbmagic · 09-08-2005, 09:34 PM

If Raiders can clean up the middle pass defense in the 2nd half. The Raiders will win it.

Galaxy · 09-08-2005, 09:38 PM

Wow, has this forum turned stupid?

SirFozzie · 09-08-2005, 09:38 PM

The thing is.. the Pats have been doing it without Dillon.. if they adjust to the passes over the middle, will that open the out routes, or worse, allow Dillon running room?

HomerJSimpson · 09-08-2005, 09:41 PM

What was the over/under line on the game?

09-08-2005, 08:53 PM	#160
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Nice throw... is that the first throw they've tried this drive or what? __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

09-08-2005, 09:04 PM	#164
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Well that's what Moss brings to you team! WOW! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

09-08-2005, 09:04 PM	#165
VPI97 Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA	Yeah, that Pats secondary will sure shut Moss down __________________ CT & Jivin - "Surprisingly Entertaining"

09-08-2005, 09:08 PM	#169
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	There is a reason that he's the best reciever in the game . __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

09-08-2005, 09:14 PM	#175
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Um.. guys on the Raider D? That three man rush thing.. T'aint workin.. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-08-2005, 08:36 PM	#152
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	there's my D! hella runback by Tim Dwight on that punt too, although I'd be willing to bet he might get scolded for catching it inside the 10...

09-08-2005, 08:42 PM	#156
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	TD! DEION BRANCH! oh yeah, and Brady's accuracy looks fine I'd say.

09-08-2005, 08:44 PM	#157
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Yeah, I'm an idiot obviously.

09-08-2005, 08:51 PM	#159
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	oh that's a bullshit penalty!

09-08-2005, 08:55 PM	#161
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	way to hold D...way to hold

09-08-2005, 08:56 PM	#162
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Brady needs to stay away from Branch. Does he not understand the fantasy implications?

09-08-2005, 09:04 PM	#163
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	i fucking hate randy moss. even if he hadn't just scored on my team. He's just...trash.

09-08-2005, 09:04 PM	#166
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	73 yard td pass to Randy Moss

09-08-2005, 09:06 PM	#168
Lorena Unregistered Join Date: May 2004	Wow, nice juggling catch!!

09-08-2005, 09:09 PM	#170
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Man, I got to this thread late. The Raiders have the deepest set of corners in the game? Yikes. Not saying the Raiders don't have a chance, but I am saying their DB's suck horribly and their LB's suck worse. Some thoughts of the game so far: Madden - "they take six out and they bring six more in" Thanks for the news flash John. The Patriots defense looked horrible the first drive. They recovered for a few drives and then looked horrific on that long ass. Nice angles there guys. I'd still say it's likely Branch has more yards than Moss by the time this game is done. The Patriots will likely find a way to pull it out. They are like a horror movie villan. When you think they are dead, they pop up at the end of the movie and kill someone. Dillon looks horrible. The O-Line hasn't blocked great for him, but even with that, he doesn't look good. Not fluid at all. The last run was a perfect example, he had yardage to make there and was tackled easily by a DB. Not good.

09-08-2005, 09:10 PM	#171
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	bah. so he burned them once. I'll live with that, as long as it doesn't cost them the game and it doesn't happen again. I mean really, all you can hope to do is contain Moss.

09-08-2005, 09:10 PM	#172
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	Raiders run defense doing a great job so far on Dillion

09-08-2005, 09:14 PM	#177
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	I'm missing Tim Dwight already. He's never been used enough because of his size.

09-08-2005, 09:16 PM	#182
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	BTW, I see things I don't like so far, but maybe I'm being nitpicky. Hearing Michaels and Madden talk about what looked like Dillon sulking.. Uh oh... Pats long D.. UH OH.. (The hallmark of the Pats D the last few years was that you had to dink and dunk them, that you couldn't get it all at once) __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-08-2005, 09:19 PM	#184
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Good game, welcome back NFL!!

09-08-2005, 09:22 PM	#186
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	is 32 Jordan? Dude has some serious hair!

09-08-2005, 09:27 PM	#191
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	that looks like a catch too. hand under the ball as the hand hits the ground, ball stays still in his hands. that's a catch fuckers. Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 09-08-2005 at 09:28 PM.

09-08-2005, 09:28 PM	#192
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Wow, they stopped em. Took a horrible pass by Brady to do it, but they stopped em. Looks like I won't get to the final round.

09-08-2005, 09:29 PM	#193
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	I vote catch. (Doesn't matter now...)

09-08-2005, 09:30 PM	#194
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	still time for an INT return for a TD. Still could be 24-14 the half... NEW PLAN: HOW BOUT THE BACK JUDGE (or whatever official that is) GETS THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY so Jordan can be stopped short of a 1st down? GRRR Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 09-08-2005 at 09:31 PM.

09-08-2005, 09:32 PM	#195
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	FWIW, I'd have voted no catch. The ball was moving, I don't think he ever had it before he hit the ground. Oh well. End of the half. 17-14 Pats.

09-08-2005, 09:34 PM	#197
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	If Raiders can clean up the middle pass defense in the 2nd half. The Raiders will win it.

09-08-2005, 09:38 PM	#198
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Wow, has this forum turned stupid?

09-08-2005, 09:38 PM	#199
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	The thing is.. the Pats have been doing it without Dillon.. if they adjust to the passes over the middle, will that open the out routes, or worse, allow Dillon running room? __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

09-08-2005, 09:41 PM	#200
HomerJSimpson College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Springfield, USA	What was the over/under line on the game?

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