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cartman · 09-11-2005, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I would like us to reconsider that decision; I think bowls will encourage more participation and make the game more fun for more people.

There are also bowls for teams that do not qualify for the playoffs.

Joe · 09-11-2005, 05:01 PM

how will invisible ratings work? Are the scouting reports so detailed that we'll get enough info just from that? I guess my main question is with invisible ratings, do we have enough info on the players to even decide who to start on our own teams, much less on guys to recruit?

KWhit · 09-11-2005, 05:31 PM

Umm.... Maybe we should wait for the game to be released before we start trying to decide what settings to use.

TazFTW · 09-11-2005, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by George W Bush

how will invisible ratings work? Are the scouting reports so detailed that we'll get enough info just from that? I guess my main question is with invisible ratings, do we have enough info on the players to even decide who to start on our own teams, much less on guys to recruit?

I would believe invisible ratings mean looking at players on teams not your own.

Joe · 09-11-2005, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

I would believe invisible ratings mean looking at players on teams not your own.

that would make more sense.

Fouts · 09-11-2005, 07:18 PM

I'm starting to think the bar is too high when I selected USC. Maybe I should have aimed lower, like Standford or UCLA. :P

Passacaglia · 09-12-2005, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I would like us to reconsider that decision; I think bowls will encourage more participation and make the game more fun for more people.

I'm with you. I guess, in the end, it's cartman's league, but it does seem like there's a lot of people wanting bowls. Maybe we can have a vote, sometime after the game is out, and we know how its bowl system looks. I mean, because if it's like TCY, 1-2, 3-6, 4-7, and 5-8 (or whatever it is), I wouldn't want it, but if there's some semblance of conference tie-ins, I'd like it.

cartman · 09-12-2005, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I'm with you. I guess, in the end, it's cartman's league, but it does seem like there's a lot of people wanting bowls. Maybe we can have a vote, sometime after the game is out, and we know how its bowl system looks. I mean, because if it's like TCY, 1-2, 3-6, 4-7, and 5-8 (or whatever it is), I wouldn't want it, but if there's some semblance of conference tie-ins, I'd like it.

In the public developer chats, Arlie described how the playoffs will works. It will be like this:

Each of the 11 conference winners get an automatic berth. There will be 5 at large bids to make a playoff pool of 16 teams.

For the teams that do not qualify for the playoffs, there will still be bowl games played for them.

Passacaglia · 09-12-2005, 10:59 AM

I guess I was talking about the BCS bowls, not the playoffs.

vex · 09-12-2005, 12:14 PM

I also want bowls like they are IRL.

Ben E Lou · 09-12-2005, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Umm.... Maybe we should wait for the game to be released before we start trying to decide what settings to use.

Yup.

Dutch · 09-12-2005, 12:52 PM

Speaking of waiting for the game, it shouldn't be more than a few months away at this point.

Passacaglia · 09-12-2005, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Umm.... Maybe we should wait for the game to be released before we start trying to decide what settings to use.

Sure, but this gives those of who wish the league were starting now something to talk about.

VPI97 · 09-12-2005, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by vexroid

I also want bowls like they are IRL.

Same here.

illinifan999 · 09-12-2005, 01:29 PM

I guess rather having playoffs puts me in the minority.

Passacaglia · 09-12-2005, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by illinifan999

I guess rather having playoffs puts me in the minority.

Not necessarily. People who want bowls are speaking up, because cartman said he was going to do playoffs. You could very well be part of the silent majority.

Huckleberry · 09-12-2005, 01:33 PM

I definitely prefer playoffs, especially because bowl games will still be available for teams that don't qualify for the tournament.

Buccaneer · 09-12-2005, 06:36 PM

I still don't have a team yet (last I checked) but I strongly prefer bowl games as they are in real life.

dervack · 09-12-2005, 06:46 PM

I'd like Ball State, depending on when the league gets going.

wbatl1 · 09-12-2005, 06:52 PM

Cartman-any idea of the time schedule for exports in this league will be? Biweekly? weekly? Thanks

dervack · 09-12-2005, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

Speaking of waiting for the game, it shouldn't be more than a few months away at this point.

Should be a few weeks as the 3rd quarter ends in 18 days.

dervack · 09-12-2005, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Huckleberry

I definitely prefer playoffs, especially because bowl games will still be available for teams that don't qualify for the tournament.

Same here. If this is indeed the case, where teams can make the bowls if they don't qualify for the playoffs, then I think that might be the way to go. Does anyone know if you can change the Bowl affiliations in the game?

Fouts · 09-12-2005, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Huckleberry

I definitely prefer playoffs, especially because bowl games will still be available for teams that don't qualify for the tournament.

Ditto. I prefer a real #1 than two voted teams deciding who is #1.

cartman · 09-12-2005, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wbatl1

Cartman-any idea of the time schedule for exports in this league will be? Biweekly? weekly? Thanks

No idea at this time. I'm figuring that one export = 1 week in game time. In real time, I'm figuring 2 or 3 exports per week. But this is all subject to change, once the game is released, and we see how it all works.

I'm not planning on starting up the league until the game has been out for a month or so, to give people time to get used to it.

Emiliano · 09-13-2005, 03:45 AM

I prefer bowls too, but having playoff wouldn't be a problem at all.

TazFTW · 09-13-2005, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cartman

In the public developer chats, Arlie described how the playoffs will works. It will be like this:

Each of the 11 conference winners get an automatic berth. There will be 5 at large bids to make a playoff pool of 16 teams.

For the teams that do not qualify for the playoffs, there will still be bowl games played for them.

Maybe I have overlooked it but I do not see Arlie mentioning bowl games for teams not involved in the playoffs in the chat transcript.

Arles · 09-13-2005, 08:58 AM

There will be bowl games for teams that do not make the playoffs.

vex · 09-13-2005, 11:21 AM

How many additional bowl games?

Cringer · 09-13-2005, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Arles

There will be bowl games for teams that do not make the playoffs.

This is for every game, no option to have just bowl games or just playoffs or the mix? A playoff with bowl games for non-playoff teams?

I like the bowl games with the playoffs, make the playoffs more acceptable to me for sure. But I pretty much prefer just bowls I guess.

sovereignstar · 09-13-2005, 12:20 PM

Do we know how the stat-keeping will work in regards to postseason play? If it's like TCY where they don't get broken up, I'd *strongly* prefer bowls only. I don't want to be comparing rushing yards between two backs when one guy has played 16 games and the other has played only 12 (and yes I know about the yards/game stat).

Even if the stats do get broken up, I'd still slightly prefer bowls only.

Arles · 09-13-2005, 01:41 PM

There's an option to include postseason stats when creating your league. You also have the option of choosing only bowl games or a 16-team playoff using 8 bowl sites with the remaining bowls happening as usual.

Cringer · 09-13-2005, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles

There's an option to include postseason stats when creating your league. You also have the option of choosing only bowl games or a 16-team playoff using 8 bowl sites with the remaining bowls happening as usual.

Ahhh. Sounds good to me then.

st.cronin · 09-13-2005, 02:16 PM

I would still prefer Bowls to Playoffs.

sovereignstar · 09-13-2005, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles

There's an option to include postseason stats when creating your league.

Very nice.

stevew · 09-13-2005, 03:38 PM

If someone else wants to be Tennessee, thats fine. I don't think I'll be buying the game, and likely won't have time to join even if I do get it

Comey · 09-13-2005, 05:17 PM

There is a league signing up on the GreyDog boards, where you can vote on what system you want. Perhaps one league (this one) will be playoff, and the other (Gridiron Glory) will be bowl.

Emiliano · 09-13-2005, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arles

There's an option to include postseason stats when creating your league.

Impressive.

bhlloy · 09-13-2005, 06:39 PM

Assuming I can afford the game when it comes out I'd like to tentatively call San Diego State. I doubt anyone else would want them anyway...

vex · 09-30-2005, 12:23 PM

Should we start getting details like bowl or playoffs figured out?

VPI97 · 09-30-2005, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by vexroid

Should we start getting details like bowl or playoffs figured out?

Set up a poll somewhere, but make sure to put 'Doesn't matter' as a choice. I would prefer bowls, but it's not a make or break decision for me.

vex · 09-30-2005, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by VPI97

Set up a poll somewhere, but make sure to put 'Doesn't matter' as a choice. I would prefer bowls, but it's not a make or break decision for me.

Only problem with that might be people voting that don't intend on being in the league. Or did you mean away from this site?

VPI97 · 09-30-2005, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by vexroid

Only problem with that might be people voting that don't intend on being in the league. Or did you mean away from this site?

You can do it here...if you're concerned about who is voting, just make it a public poll.

KWhit · 09-30-2005, 12:34 PM

What is the rush? I would think people would want to wait a while to start the league anyway (until we all understand the game mechanics, bugs are fixed, etc..).

KWhit · 09-30-2005, 12:38 PM

And I don't think that a vote right now even makes sense. People's votes will depend on how the bowl system and playoffs actually work in-game. We have no idea how each system will work, so how can we possibly make an informed decision?

gstelmack · 09-30-2005, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

And I don't think that a vote right now even makes sense. People's votes will depend on how the bowl system and playoffs actually work in-game. We have no idea how each system will work, so how can we possibly make an informed decision?

Bah, when has that ever stopped us before

vex · 09-30-2005, 12:39 PM

KWhit · 09-30-2005, 01:04 PM

Yeah, I know. It's fun to think about and talk about, but I don't want people to start making decisions before we have any idea about the ramifications of the decisions.

One of the things that worked out well for us in the IHOF (even though it wasn't intentional) is the very slow pace in which the league began. In fact, most people thought the league was dead before we even got started. Basically, for awhile we couldn't find a commish.

But what the time lapse did for us was allow all of us to get familiar with the new version of the game, do some testing, let a patch or two to be released, and made for an easier transition into the new world of MP FOF. In fact, some people have stated that they wished they had some more time to learn the nuances of the game (especially in regards to the preference draft settings) before we began.

I think it will be important, especially since this is a brand new game, to take our time and not jump into the start of the league just because we're all excited about it. Bad decisions early on can hurt the league for years, or forever. That's all.

nfg22 · 09-30-2005, 02:08 PM

Ill take UCF and ill be alt for Notre Dame if possible please...

dacman · 09-30-2005, 03:26 PM

Put me down for West Virginia and as an alternate for Purdue.

Fouts · 09-30-2005, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Assuming I can afford the game when it comes out I'd like to tentatively call San Diego State. I doubt anyone else would want them anyway...

Nothing wrong with the Aztecs, especially if you are able to find another Faulk.

09-12-2005, 01:29 PM	#165
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	I guess rather having playoffs puts me in the minority. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

09-12-2005, 01:33 PM	#167
Huckleberry College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001	I definitely prefer playoffs, especially because bowl games will still be available for teams that don't qualify for the tournament. __________________ The one thing all your failed relationships have in common is you. The Barking Carnival (Longhorn-centered sports blog) College Football Adjusted Stats and Ratings

09-12-2005, 06:52 PM	#170
wbatl1 High School Varsity Join Date: Jun 2003	Cartman-any idea of the time schedule for exports in this league will be? Biweekly? weekly? Thanks __________________ wbatl1

09-13-2005, 03:45 AM	#175
Emiliano College Prospect Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nuremberg, Germany	I prefer bowls too, but having playoff wouldn't be a problem at all. __________________ Xbox Live&PSN: Emiliano81 GM of the Rome Gladiators in the WOOF

09-13-2005, 03:38 PM	#185
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	If someone else wants to be Tennessee, thats fine. I don't think I'll be buying the game, and likely won't have time to join even if I do get it Last edited by stevew : 12-01-2005 at 11:06 AM.

09-11-2005, 05:01 PM	#152
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	how will invisible ratings work? Are the scouting reports so detailed that we'll get enough info just from that? I guess my main question is with invisible ratings, do we have enough info on the players to even decide who to start on our own teams, much less on guys to recruit?

09-11-2005, 05:31 PM	#153
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Umm.... Maybe we should wait for the game to be released before we start trying to decide what settings to use.

09-11-2005, 07:18 PM	#156
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	I'm starting to think the bar is too high when I selected USC. Maybe I should have aimed lower, like Standford or UCLA. :P

09-12-2005, 10:59 AM	#159
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I guess I was talking about the BCS bowls, not the playoffs.

09-12-2005, 12:14 PM	#160
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	I also want bowls like they are IRL.

09-12-2005, 12:52 PM	#162
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Speaking of waiting for the game, it shouldn't be more than a few months away at this point.

09-12-2005, 06:36 PM	#168
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	I still don't have a team yet (last I checked) but I strongly prefer bowl games as they are in real life.

09-12-2005, 06:46 PM	#169
dervack College Prospect Join Date: Jun 2005	I'd like Ball State, depending on when the league gets going.

09-13-2005, 08:58 AM	#177
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	There will be bowl games for teams that do not make the playoffs.

09-13-2005, 11:21 AM	#178
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	How many additional bowl games?

09-13-2005, 12:20 PM	#180
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Do we know how the stat-keeping will work in regards to postseason play? If it's like TCY where they don't get broken up, I'd strongly prefer bowls only. I don't want to be comparing rushing yards between two backs when one guy has played 16 games and the other has played only 12 (and yes I know about the yards/game stat). Even if the stats do get broken up, I'd still slightly prefer bowls only.

09-13-2005, 01:41 PM	#181
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	There's an option to include postseason stats when creating your league. You also have the option of choosing only bowl games or a 16-team playoff using 8 bowl sites with the remaining bowls happening as usual.

09-13-2005, 02:16 PM	#183
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I would still prefer Bowls to Playoffs.

09-13-2005, 05:17 PM	#186
Comey College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CT via PA via CA via PA	There is a league signing up on the GreyDog boards, where you can vote on what system you want. Perhaps one league (this one) will be playoff, and the other (Gridiron Glory) will be bowl. __________________

09-13-2005, 06:39 PM	#188
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Assuming I can afford the game when it comes out I'd like to tentatively call San Diego State. I doubt anyone else would want them anyway...

09-30-2005, 12:23 PM	#189
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Should we start getting details like bowl or playoffs figured out?

09-30-2005, 12:34 PM	#193
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	What is the rush? I would think people would want to wait a while to start the league anyway (until we all understand the game mechanics, bugs are fixed, etc..).

09-30-2005, 12:38 PM	#194
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	And I don't think that a vote right now even makes sense. People's votes will depend on how the bowl system and playoffs actually work in-game. We have no idea how each system will work, so how can we possibly make an informed decision?

09-30-2005, 12:39 PM	#196
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa

09-30-2005, 01:04 PM	#197
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Yeah, I know. It's fun to think about and talk about, but I don't want people to start making decisions before we have any idea about the ramifications of the decisions. One of the things that worked out well for us in the IHOF (even though it wasn't intentional) is the very slow pace in which the league began. In fact, most people thought the league was dead before we even got started. Basically, for awhile we couldn't find a commish. But what the time lapse did for us was allow all of us to get familiar with the new version of the game, do some testing, let a patch or two to be released, and made for an easier transition into the new world of MP FOF. In fact, some people have stated that they wished they had some more time to learn the nuances of the game (especially in regards to the preference draft settings) before we began. I think it will be important, especially since this is a brand new game, to take our time and not jump into the start of the league just because we're all excited about it. Bad decisions early on can hurt the league for years, or forever. That's all.

09-30-2005, 02:08 PM	#198
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	Ill take UCF and ill be alt for Notre Dame if possible please...

09-30-2005, 03:26 PM	#199
dacman College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: speak to the trout	Put me down for West Virginia and as an alternate for Purdue. __________________ No signatures allowed.

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