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View Poll Results: What will be the next Solecismic Release?
Front Office Baseball 30 12.45%
Front Office Basketball 10 4.15%
Front Office Football 6 63 26.14%
Front Office Hockey 12 4.98%
Political Sim 42 17.43%
TCY 2 68 28.22%
Other (Please Comment) 16 6.64%
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Old 09-16-2004, 08:27 AM   #151
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Why would you improve a product, just to release a new version a few days/weeks/months/years/centuries/milleniums later? Doesn't make sense, unless, the Patch for TCY is sort of a "beta test" for the new product? I hope its FOF6, but I don't think anything will come out soon if at all.
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Old 09-16-2004, 10:11 PM   #152
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Actually, I'm now reversed course and I'm leaning heavily towards TCY2.
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Old 09-16-2004, 10:34 PM   #153
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Hehe, all it took was opening the game, eh? All things considered, the TCY interface IS looking a bit dated. Good grief it's such a good game, though.
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Old 09-16-2004, 10:56 PM   #154
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here is my view for what it is worth

i can play still play TCY and i can still play fof5(heck i played fof1 the just a couple days ago)

i would really like to add another one into the mix

i voted for other and i sure hope it is
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Old 09-17-2004, 09:21 AM   #155
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Hehe, all it took was opening the game, eh? All things considered, the TCY interface IS looking a bit dated. Good grief it's such a good game, though.

Exactly. All it took was a look at the interface and then thinking 'oh yeah, these linebackers don't half half the skill ratings the ones in FOF have.'

I don't see FOF being the next release. I can't see him making 3 consecutive FOF releases before going back to TCY.
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Old 09-17-2004, 09:34 AM   #156
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I really really hope everyone who thinks it's TCY2 is right. The more I think about it, the more I want it to be TCY2. I'm trying not to get my hopes up though and be disappointed. If it's baseball, I might have to call the suicide hotline though...
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Old 09-17-2004, 10:14 AM   #157
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I'd love to see TCY2 come out sooner than later. But it would make sense if Jim waited until next season, when conference realignments are completed (I hope) and the two new 1-A teams come in. This seems especially prudent, since the game assumes that conference membership is static over time. Jim has been patching the game every year to account for changes in conference membership. It's possible that after next year's conference membership changes, there will be stability in the conference structure, at least for a few years (Jim does express this hope in his write-up on conference re-alignment in his college football rankings section). It wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that Jim would wait for the dust to settle in real-life div 1-A football, and release TCY2 then...
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Old 09-17-2004, 11:34 AM   #158
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All I know is that Jim, aka Mr Solecismic, must have a very good time watching all that discussion and speculation...
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Old 09-17-2004, 11:38 AM   #159
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All I know is that Jim, aka Mr Solecismic, must have a very good time watching all that discussion and speculation...

That's why we do it. It's the best amusement we can give back to him in return for all the fun he's provided us.

Well, that and we have a lot of fun speculating using baseless claims and tiny little pieces of "evidence".
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Old 09-23-2004, 11:34 AM   #160
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And I've been fortunate enough to be able to spend all of my time in the home office, working on Front Office Football. One of my long-term goals is to maintain the football games, keeping them on the cutting edge for this type of career simulation.

I got that from his site. I guess he spilled the beans...maybe?
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Old 09-23-2004, 11:49 AM   #161
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Noop--

I don't know if it is in this thread, but people have discussed that there are several things on the Solecismic site that look like hints, but that don't quite all add up.

Of course, I would look at any recent change to the site with interest, but I think that a lot of the stuff on there is just old and has not been updated (if, in fact, it needs to be updated).

What I think is interesting is that I really have no idea what he will do because there are good reasons for any of them.

TCY2--it's time for it. Lots of people want it. He still cares about it as evidenced by the patch (or, he does not plan to make it, as evidenced by the patch).

FOF6--playing in a multiplayer league makes him want to make the "perfect" NFL game.

Baseball--He loves the sport, and it seems to fit very well with his awesome stat production engines. There may also be a place for the game with some people becoming a little OOTP weary.

Politial Sim--this seems to be where a lot of the hints are headed, and he has mentioned it before.

Stock Market Sim--one of his IHOF players mentioned that this was the game he was making.

Any of the above would make some level of sense. The only one that I am pretty sure it is not is an NBA sim since Jim has made no bones about his feelings about the NBA.
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Old 09-23-2004, 12:03 PM   #162
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Noop--

I don't know if it is in this thread, but people have discussed that there are several things on the Solecismic site that look like hints, but that don't quite all add up.

Of course, I would look at any recent change to the site with interest, but I think that a lot of the stuff on there is just old and has not been updated (if, in fact, it needs to be updated).

What I think is interesting is that I really have no idea what he will do because there are good reasons for any of them.

TCY2--it's time for it. Lots of people want it. He still cares about it as evidenced by the patch (or, he does not plan to make it, as evidenced by the patch).

FOF6--playing in a multiplayer league makes him want to make the "perfect" NFL game.

Baseball--He loves the sport, and it seems to fit very well with his awesome stat production engines. There may also be a place for the game with some people becoming a little OOTP weary.

Politial Sim--this seems to be where a lot of the hints are headed, and he has mentioned it before.

Stock Market Sim--one of his IHOF players mentioned that this was the game he was making.

Any of the above would make some level of sense. The only one that I am pretty sure it is not is an NBA sim since Jim has made no bones about his feelings about the NBA.

I have to confess I didnt read the whole thread. But thank you for that breakdown you provided...I think personally it will be FOF6 but I am hoping for something else... once again thank you.
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Old 09-23-2004, 01:24 PM   #163
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Maybe he's working on more than one project: TCY2 and the political sim.
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Old 09-23-2004, 01:38 PM   #164
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Stock Market Sim--one of his IHOF players mentioned that this was the game he was making.

a transcript of that mention, it's from Floyd B. Boudreaux's intereview with Ann Arbor Anachronism kicker Ann Arbor .

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5.) The software conglomerate that partly owns your team is rumored to be developing a new product. Any locker room rumors as to what that might be?


Rumors are everywhere. Jason Winkle is obsessed with that stuff. I hear they do the coding in a high-security warehouse in New Hampshire. You need to have NSA-level clearance just to get into the building.
Last year, when we played at Syracuse, Jason rented a car and drove to New Hampshire to try and find out what was going on there. Came back with bullet holes in the fenders.
Personally, I don't think they're doing any work at all right now. The team owner's always up here, visiting family and hanging out at practices. But if I had to guess, I'd say he was working on a stock market simulation. He's always talking about this fund and that fund, and how he didn't think he'd be able to afford Donald's signing bonus this year. But he did it.
If we're seriously looking at intereviews with fictional players from fictional teams for clues, Jim has to be laughing his ass off.
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Old 09-23-2004, 01:41 PM   #165
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Maybe he's working on more than one project: TCY2 and the political sim.

I was thinking TCY2 and a baseball sim for the spring.
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Old 09-23-2004, 02:07 PM   #166
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If we're seriously looking at intereviews with fictional players from fictional teams for clues, Jim has to be laughing his ass off.

I liked the bullet holes in the fenders, myself. I can just picture Jim sitting on his porch shooting at the cars of people who get too close to his house without proper "clearance."
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Old 09-23-2004, 02:18 PM   #167
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If it is going to be a political sim (which is what I voted for), then he better release it soon. As each day goes by, I think the likelihood of a political sim decreases.
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Old 09-23-2004, 02:22 PM   #168
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Damn, I was hoping Jim would make a mistake and vote in the poll...
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Old 09-23-2004, 02:22 PM   #169
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If it is going to be a political sim (which is what I voted for), then he better release it soon. As each day goes by, I think the likelihood of a political sim decreases.

No kidding. You can remove that one from the list.

As I said in an interview a year or so ago, I feel that politics has become such a negative, cynical milieu that I'd have trouble keeping Front Office Politics from being a parody of today's politicians rather than a serious game. Maybe some other time, as I am very interested in politics and remain unaffiliated with any party.
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Old 09-23-2004, 02:23 PM   #170
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No kidding. You can remove that one from the list.

As I said in an interview a year or so ago, I feel that politics has become such a negative, cynical milieu that I'd have trouble keeping Front Office Politics from being a parody of today's politicians rather than a serious game. Maybe some other time, as I am very interested in politics and remain unaffiliated with any party.

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Old 09-23-2004, 02:26 PM   #171
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No kidding. You can remove that one from the list.

As I said in an interview a year or so ago, I feel that politics has become such a negative, cynical milieu that I'd have trouble keeping Front Office Politics from being a parody of today's politicians rather than a serious game. Maybe some other time, as I am very interested in politics and remain unaffiliated with any party.

Too bad. Since it can't be a political sim . . . let me speculate some more . . .

If it is going to be TCY2 (which is what I didn't voted for), then he better release it soon. As each day goes by, I think the likelihood of TCY2 decreases.
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Old 09-23-2004, 02:29 PM   #172
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Too bad. Since it can't be a political sim . . . let me speculate some more . . .

If it is going to be TCY2 (which is what I didn't voted for), then he better release it soon. As each day goes by, I think the likelihood of TCY2 decreases.

LOL
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Old 09-23-2004, 02:29 PM   #173
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And much like in the upcoming election, now that you've given us this information, a segment of the population feels as though it wasted its vote.
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Old 09-23-2004, 02:33 PM   #174
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Too bad. Since it can't be a political sim . . . let me speculate some more . . .

If it is going to be TCY2 (which is what I didn't voted for), then he better release it soon. As each day goes by, I think the likelihood of TCY2 decreases.

Nice.
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Old 09-23-2004, 06:16 PM   #175
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Too bad. Since it can't be a political sim . . . let me speculate some more . . .

If it is going to be TCY2 (which is what I didn't voted for), then he better release it soon. As each day goes by, I think the likelihood of TCY2 decreases.

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Old 09-23-2004, 06:27 PM   #176
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Heh. I missed this the first time. Well done, JG. Very well done.
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Old 09-23-2004, 09:17 PM   #177
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I'm really hoping for baseball. I mean, I want a game that doesn't miss out on the little things that the other two big games in the text-sim market seem to. I mean, I enjoyed my time with Mogul and OOTP5 was awesome. But I'm really dying for a game that takes the baseball text-sim experience to the next level and Jim has the talent to do that, hands down.

So I'm really crossing my fingers for that. I'm not sure I'd buy an update of the football games, only because I'm not a huge football fan and I bought both TCY and FOF2K4 and haven't touched them much in months - not because they're bad..they're great - but more because I'm just not into it anymore.

I can sit and look at baseball stats for hours upon hours and get dizzy with the possibilities. But with football, I'd much rather see it happening, so I play Madden.
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Old 09-23-2004, 09:40 PM   #178
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Heh. I missed this the first time. Well done, JG. Very well done.

You didn't miss it. See post #108 http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/for...4&page=3&pp=50
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Old 09-23-2004, 10:02 PM   #179
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But I'm really dying for a game that takes the baseball text-sim experience to the next level and Jim has the talent to do that, hands down.

I'd like to see that too, but a first incarnation game just won't be able to be on par with Puresim or OOTP. Given that, I'd like to see FOF perfected before moving on to another sport. And we are real close as it is.
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Old 09-24-2004, 03:21 AM   #181
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Me and the other 7 people that picked basketball will ultimately prevail. There isnt a solid pro game in that sport that i have played as of yet.
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Old 09-24-2004, 04:00 AM   #182
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Great news! i didn't want a political sim as i don't find it interesting at all. With the possible TPF2 out of the scene, Jim doesn't have any competition on football sims, and he is the best doing them, why to change and risk his company when he can keep having his success and our love?
I really hope it's both TC2 and FOF6 with new features like the ones we all suggested and i hope it will be released soon as i'm starting FOF2k4 and TCY dynasties, tweaking the rooster files etc and mybe i'm wasting my time on them when the new versions are close to be released. This is the only reason of why i would like an anouncement, just to be sure if there is going to be a new FOF and/or TCY for this season (the date is not needed to be given) or if he is doing another sport an mybe we are talking about a release in 4 or 5 months.
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Old 09-24-2004, 06:59 AM   #183
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Damn, I was hoping Jim would make a mistake and vote in the poll...

Actually, he did vote; he voted 'other' to throw us off...
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No kidding. You can remove that one from the list.

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I hope you're right, steve...
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Old 09-24-2004, 10:29 AM   #185
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Old 09-24-2004, 05:36 PM   #187
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So do I get credit for the TCY 1.3 update? I said his milling about meant something was about to be released, but does an update count?
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So do I get credit for the TCY 1.3 update? I said his milling about meant something was about to be released, but does an update count?
Sure, kiddo. Here's a $0.25 gift certificate to 82 Queen.
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Me and the other 7 people that picked basketball will ultimately prevail. There isnt a solid pro game in that sport that i have played as of yet.

I think HR is cooking something up.


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Old 09-24-2004, 11:48 PM   #191
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I liked the bullet holes in the fenders, myself. I can just picture Jim sitting on his porch shooting at the cars of people who get too close to his house without proper "clearance."

I'll admit that I did laugh out loud when reading that interview. IHOF has given me quite a number of laughs, and I've had way more fun that I could have possibly imagined. It's basically ruined single-player for me.
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Old 09-28-2004, 11:44 PM   #192
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this leads me to think FOF6....


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Old 09-28-2004, 11:49 PM   #193
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Old 09-29-2004, 08:44 AM   #194
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this leads me to think FOF6....


http://www.solecismic.com/targetdata.php


You are the man TLK!!

I bet thats from FOF6. Wow, I would love to see a report like that to dissect my league.

C'mon Jim announce FOF6 already!


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Old 09-29-2004, 08:52 AM   #195
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Tomorrow?


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Today?

Arggg i feel so bad, i can't start a new FOF or TCY dynasty as i'm worried of FOF6 or TCY2 being released in the next days. I can't start a CM03/04 dynasty as i know that next month will be released FM, I haven't installed FM demo as i know i can't play more than 6 months and don't want to get atached to any team players... i need my game fix now!!!
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Arggg i feel so bad, i can't start a new FOF or TCY dynasty as i'm worried of FOF6 or TCY2 being released in the next days. I can't start a CM03/04 dynasty as i know that next month will be released FM, I haven't installed FM demo as i know i can't play more than 6 months and don't want to get atached to any team players... i need my game fix now!!!

I was just thinking this same thing. Next up on my dynasties I never finish is a combo TCY-->FOF dynasty, but I'm waiting on the next release of either game (I truly believe it's FOF 2005), but just in case I don't want to get started with TCY 1.3 just yet.

Oh, the agony.

At least if I know it's FOF 2005, I can get going with the TCY portion of the dynasty.

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Old 09-29-2004, 10:13 AM   #199
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I was just thinking this same thing. Next up on my dynasties I never finish is a combo TCY-->FOF dynasty, but I'm waiting on the next release of either game (I truly believe it's FOF 2005), but just in case I don't want to get started with TCY 1.3 just yet.

Oh, the agony.

At least if I know it's FOF 2005, I can get going with the TCY portion of the dynasty.

Todd

At least Jim could tell us if the new game is FOF or TCy or both, we don't need release date, just a bit more of info to decide what to do with our gamming life.

Dying in agony!! (damn i'm lucky that my recent wife doesn't read this forums, if she could see me craying out loud as a child for a computer game she would be really upset).
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Old 09-29-2004, 10:19 AM   #200
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At least Jim could tell us if the new game is FOF or TCy or both, we don't need release date, just a bit more of info to decide what to do with our gamming life.

Dying in agony!! (damn i'm lucky that my recent wife doesn't read this forums, if she could see me craying out loud as a child for a computer game she would be really upset).

I'm not letting any of this stop my utility work. It's fun to do, and we might (are likely to?) be completely wrong. So I enjoy the speculation, but continue as if nothing is coming out.
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