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Old 09-13-2004, 10:42 AM   #151
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I believe it was Summerall who brought it up later in the game. He's seriously going senile and I think Theismann and Maguire humor him at times because he is a respected announcer in the twilight of his life.
At the risk of agreeing with you in this thread ( ) I'm afraid you're right. He made two errors before kickoff (only one of which is immediately coming to mind, when he was listing the offensive lineup for the Chiefs (he called them linebackers before correcting himself). Hopefully he'll be able to make a graceful exit.
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Old 09-13-2004, 11:07 AM   #152
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I believe it was Summerall who brought it up later in the game. He's seriously going senile and I think Theismann and Maguire humor him at times because he is a respected announcer in the twilight of his life.
But then again, he was the only one to notice that the penalty wasn't marked off for the field goal at the end of the half.
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Old 09-13-2004, 11:10 AM   #153
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But then again, he was the only one to notice that the penalty wasn't marked off for the field goal at the end of the half.

He and Trent Green are at about the same level.
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Old 09-13-2004, 02:29 PM   #154
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Of course, it seems like every Denver back is overrated.

Griffin is just another in a long line of reasons (Mike Anderson, Portis, Olandis Gary) why Terrell Davis doesn't belong in the HOF.


Except that TD was the best of the bunch. He was the biggest of those backs, the second fastest, the best pure cutback runner of the bunch and a strong player.

I'm hoping that when Portis rushes for 1500+ yards this year people start to understand that while the system is very good for RB's, the RB's still have to be pretty good to run in it. Gary wasn't a good example because by the time he left, he'd already blown out the knee twice.
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Old 09-13-2004, 02:38 PM   #155
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Terrell Davis was an amazing back, however he doesn't belong in the HOF. Gale Sayers (who everyone uses as the basis for getting terrel in) was a man who did everything, rushing, recieving, punt returns, kick returns, he was all over the field and no-one could touch him.

Terrell is not Gale Sayers, he's not even 1/2 of Sayers. Davis played in the single best rushing system in the NFL, Sayers played on an AWFUL Bears squad for his 4-5 years and still put up those numbers.

No Hall for TD.
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Old 09-13-2004, 05:21 PM   #156
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Terrell Davis was an amazing back, however he doesn't belong in the HOF. Gale Sayers (who everyone uses as the basis for getting terrel in) was a man who did everything, rushing, recieving, punt returns, kick returns, he was all over the field and no-one could touch him.

Terrell is not Gale Sayers, he's not even 1/2 of Sayers. Davis played in the single best rushing system in the NFL, Sayers played on an AWFUL Bears squad for his 4-5 years and still put up those numbers.

No Hall for TD.

Not gonna argue the point, he got hurt too quickly. No arguement at all. I will argue that he was overrated though. I think he was an exceptional RB who could have succeeded in any system.
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Old 09-13-2004, 05:28 PM   #157
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Except that TD was the best of the bunch. He was the biggest of those backs, the second fastest, the best pure cutback runner of the bunch and a strong player.

I'm hoping that when Portis rushes for 1500+ yards this year people start to understand that while the system is very good for RB's, the RB's still have to be pretty good to run in it. Gary wasn't a good example because by the time he left, he'd already blown out the knee twice.

Trading Portis for Bailey tells me Shanahan himself leans to the system side of the argument. And I'm 100% sure it's not pride that causes him to do that.
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Old 09-13-2004, 07:18 PM   #158
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But then again, he was the only one to notice that the penalty wasn't marked off for the field goal at the end of the half.

Even a blind mule reaches water once in a while .
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Old 09-14-2004, 06:38 PM   #159
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Hate to dig up this thread for the fear it'll cause, but I found a guy who had a comparison on a still pick. Opposite legs. . . but you can see where the comparisons in style are.

hxxp://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?threadid=98544
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Old 09-14-2004, 06:52 PM   #160
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I didn't learn much from that link, except that those Chiefs fans were pretty entertaining.
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Old 09-14-2004, 08:03 PM   #161
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But then again, he was the only one to notice that the penalty wasn't marked off for the field goal at the end of the half.

Those had to be the kicker instincts.
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Old 01-04-2005, 10:43 PM   #162
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And since I just remembered this, thought it might be nice to drive a nail into this particular coffin.

Quentin Griffin, 2004 Regular Season: 85 carries, 311 yards, 3.7 YPC, 2 TD.
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Old 01-04-2005, 11:04 PM   #163
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And since I just remembered this, thought it might be nice to drive a nail into this particular coffin.

Quentin Griffin, 2004 Regular Season: 85 carries, 311 yards, 3.7 YPC, 2 TD.

Funny you bring this up now, considering that he was benched five games into the season and spent the last two months of the season on IR. What do these numbers prove in January?
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Old 01-04-2005, 11:19 PM   #164
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Funny you bring this up now, considering that he was benched five games into the season and spent the last two months of the season on IR. What do these numbers prove in January?
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