AFC Championship Game Comments - Page 4

GoldenEagle · 01-18-2004, 04:56 PM

Game over.

Vince · 01-18-2004, 04:56 PM

How many times can the Patriots get to the superbowl in shady fashion?

pjstp20 · 01-18-2004, 04:56 PM

Pathetic, Ive never seen anything like this, its almost like the refs are turning a blind eye

MikeVic · 01-18-2004, 04:56 PM

HOOOOLDIIIIING!!!!

Noble_Platypus · 01-18-2004, 04:56 PM

I guess that makes Brady better than Manning too, hi team is allowed to hold 2 straight plays with no flags

jeff061 · 01-18-2004, 04:57 PM

Where it should be, in the refs pocket. Nothing wrong with a hit like that withing 10 yards.

Guess the refs forced Manning to through 4 ints.

sabotai · 01-18-2004, 04:57 PM

After the replay, it doesn't look like he was held. If anything, I saw Pollard push off.

GoldenEagle · 01-18-2004, 04:57 PM

He was held on two straight plays. Refs need to throw the flags.

miami_fan · 01-18-2004, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Noble_Platypus

Holding on Pollard!!! He was held

They missed it twice

pjstp20 · 01-18-2004, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff061

Where it should be, in the refs pocket. Nothing wrong with a hit like that withing 10 yards.

Are you serious? Shows how little you know about the rules

Sun Tzu · 01-18-2004, 04:58 PM

I'm willing to bet there will be at least one Colts player that rips the refs after the game, and rightfuly so. The officiating in this game was absolutely horrible.

sabotai · 01-18-2004, 04:58 PM

Pollard was held a little on the first play that really didn't matter. The second play he was not held.

jeff061 · 01-18-2004, 04:58 PM

Well if it was a hold it was illegal, was no hold though. You guys are looking for something thats not there.

Vince · 01-18-2004, 04:58 PM

If it were within 5 yards, I'd let it go, but still.

I don't disagree that NE should have won this game...I'm not sure at all how Indy was still in the game. I'm just saying that's a crappy way for the game to end.

miami_fan · 01-18-2004, 04:58 PM

Colts fans don't worry. The NFL might apologize tomorrow

MikeVic · 01-18-2004, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai

After the replay, it doesn't look like he was held. If anything, I saw Pollard push off.

You're blind.

pjstp20 · 01-18-2004, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai

Pollard was held a little on the first play that really didn't matter. The second play he was not held.

A little? I didnt know there was degrees to such plays

Easy Mac · 01-18-2004, 05:00 PM

Fumble

jeff061 · 01-18-2004, 05:00 PM

was that a straight brady rush? stupid call.

it wasnt a fumble by the way.

sabotai · 01-18-2004, 05:00 PM

A little being that the guy grab his jersey for about a half a second long before the ball was in the air. It was a little. It didn't effect the play.

Vince · 01-18-2004, 05:00 PM

Sab, while the question of whether or not there was a hold is up in the air, it's tough to call any of these plays ones that 'really didn't matter.'

PS - Are you kidding? They get another shot.

pjstp20 · 01-18-2004, 05:00 PM

Hey now the refs have a chance to redeem themselves

Easy Mac · 01-18-2004, 05:00 PM

I think he was down though

sabotai · 01-18-2004, 05:01 PM

No fumble.

Vince · 01-18-2004, 05:01 PM

Then again, maybe not.

Fouts · 01-18-2004, 05:01 PM

HAHAHA! Man this brings back memories. Brady needs ref help again.

miami_fan · 01-18-2004, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

Fumble

Does not look like it

GoldenEagle · 01-18-2004, 05:01 PM

I hate reviews. Get rid of them. It should be judged by eye like baseball.

pjstp20 · 01-18-2004, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai

A little being that the guy grab his jersey for about a half a second long before the ball was in the air. It was a little. It didn't effect the play.

Through Patriot goggles it doesnt.

Easy Mac · 01-18-2004, 05:02 PM

A nice hold by Brady at thte end though

Vince · 01-18-2004, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts

HAHAHA! Man this brings back memories. Brady needs ref help again.

Tough to say that he needs ref help...in my opinion, they outplayed the Colts all day.

Sun Tzu · 01-18-2004, 05:02 PM

If karma had any say in the NFL then this would be ruled a fumble. Unfortunately it looks like the Pats are going to catch yet another break. Oh well. Pats are a great team and I'll enjoy watching them in the Super Bowl.

jeff061 · 01-18-2004, 05:03 PM

Well, i'm glad we may win this game. Its obvious everyone was rooting for the Colts.

This is almost as satisfying as beating the steelers 2 years ago(not quite though).

Tekneek · 01-18-2004, 05:05 PM

I have never seen so many holding calls go uncalled in a game before. Absolutely incredible. That entire officiating crew needs to be fired on the spot.

GoldenEagle · 01-18-2004, 05:05 PM

Im not rooting for anyone but I hate to see the refs and reviews ruin the game. I lost interest in the NFL when the replay was brought in.

sabotai · 01-18-2004, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjstp20

Through Patriot goggles it doesnt.

Hey asshole, why don't you go check the Pick 'Em game thread and see who I had winning the game. Then come back here and try to claim I'm biased simply because I don't think every single LITTLE bump is a hold.

GoldenEagle · 01-18-2004, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tekneek

I have never seen so many holding calls go uncalled in a game before. Absolutely incredible. That entire officiating crew needs to be fired on the spot.

Why cant refs get it right? It goes both ways though.

jeff061 · 01-18-2004, 05:06 PM

4 interceptions, a defense that let the patriots freely into the red zone every possesion, and the ref's ruined the game?

Anyway, i'm probably the only Patriots fan in existence that hates instant replay

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MikeVic · 01-18-2004, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai

Hey asshole, why don't you go check the Pick 'Em game thread and see who I had winning the game. Then come back here and try to claim I'm biased simply because I don't think every single LITTLE bump is a hold.

I didn't see the play on the first hold, but I saw the 2nd one. McGinest, or whoever it was, HELD POLLARD'S ARM. Pollard couldn't catch the ball JUST OUT OF HIS REACH. That's what I call HOLDING.

pjstp20 · 01-18-2004, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai

Hey asshole, why don't you go check the Pick 'Em game thread and see who I had winning the game. Then come back here and try to claim I'm biased simply because I don't think every single LITTLE bump is a hold.

Geez, sorry dude chill.

GoldenEagle · 01-18-2004, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai

Hey asshole, why don't you go check the Pick 'Em game thread and see who I had winning the game. Then come back here and try to claim I'm biased simply because I don't think every single LITTLE bump is a hold.

sabotai, I agree that not every bump should be a hold. But that last play the patriot defender reached out and held pollard's hand. That is defensive holding.

sabotai · 01-18-2004, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVic

I didn't see the play on the first hold, but I saw the 2nd one. McGinest, or whoever it was, HELD POLLARD'S ARM. Pollard couldn't catch the ball JUST OUT OF HIS REACH. That's what I call HOLDING.

He was holding his arm, yet Pollard was somehow able to push off of him with it?

TroyF · 01-18-2004, 05:10 PM

Those may have been the worst two back to back calls I've ever seen in such a big game.

If that was any indication as to what was going on with Pollard and the slot receivers all day, it's no wonder the Patriots shut Manning down and there was never anywhere to throw the ball.

For the record: The rule is NO contact after 5 yards. Certainly not one guy gets to hit him for 5 yards, then the next guy needs to hit him for 5 yards.

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Now, having said all of that, the right team won the game. I think the Patriots outplayed the Colts for much of the day and I think the coaching of the Colts was horrible all day. What the hell kind of an onside kick was that? What in the hell are you doing rushing THREE guys on Tom Brady a lot of the day? You think you are going to confuse him? Christ, mix up your defenses, but don't be stupid.

All I have to say is that I'd better NEVER hear about another Boston fan complain about the Yankees getting all of the breaks and close calls. The Patriots two Super Bowl runs have been full of them. That doesn't take away from the fact they are a great football team, but only a die hard blinded by the silver helmut Patriot fan could see they haven't caught more breaks than a dog hit by a semi in their last two playoff runs.

sabotai · 01-18-2004, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjstp20

Geez, sorry dude chill.

I am "chilled". I just don't appriciated someone accusing me of being biased simply because I don't happen to agree with them. I've been rooting for the Colts this whole game.

Easy Mac · 01-18-2004, 05:11 PM

wow, bad play by Walters, they needed at least a FG to try and have a shot.

jeff061 · 01-18-2004, 05:11 PM

Back to the bowl baby.

I leave all the haters to argue over excuses. Deja Vu all over again.

TroyF, the main difference his the Patriots take advantage of all their breaks. Same with turnovers. Thats what people seem to miss. A lot of teams get brakes, do nothing with them, and are forgotten about.

pjstp20 · 01-18-2004, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai

I am "chilled". I just don't appriciated someone accusing me of being biased simply because I don't happen to agree with them. I've been rooting for the Colts this whole game.

Alright, it just seems hard to believe a non Patriot fan could go with those two calls. My apologies

GoldenEagle · 01-18-2004, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff061

Back to the bowl baby.

I leave all the haters to argue over excuses. Deja Vu all over again.

Quit being cocky. No wonder you dont post here much.

sabotai · 01-18-2004, 05:12 PM

Quote:

For the record: The rule is NO contact after 5 yards. Certainly not one guy gets to hit him for 5 yards, then the next guy needs to hit him for 5 yards.

That's one thing I wasn't sure on. Both routes looked short and I wasn't totally sure if they were within 5 yards of the LOS. BUT, that's not holding. You want to scream up and down that it was illegal contact, they I won't say you're wrong because I don't know for sure. But I did not see anying holding on either play.

01-18-2004, 04:56 PM	#153
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	How many times can the Patriots get to the superbowl in shady fashion? __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

01-18-2004, 04:56 PM	#156
Noble_Platypus College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: York, Pa	I guess that makes Brady better than Manning too, hi team is allowed to hold 2 straight plays with no flags __________________ We had the $240, we had to have the puddin'

01-18-2004, 04:57 PM	#157
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Where it should be, in the refs pocket. Nothing wrong with a hit like that withing 10 yards. Guess the refs forced Manning to through 4 ints. Last edited by jeff061 : 01-18-2004 at 04:58 PM.

01-18-2004, 04:58 PM	#162
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	I'm willing to bet there will be at least one Colts player that rips the refs after the game, and rightfuly so. The officiating in this game was absolutely horrible. __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

01-18-2004, 04:58 PM	#165
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	If it were within 5 yards, I'd let it go, but still. I don't disagree that NE should have won this game...I'm not sure at all how Indy was still in the game. I'm just saying that's a crappy way for the game to end. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

01-18-2004, 04:56 PM	#151
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	wow

01-18-2004, 04:56 PM	#152
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	Game over.

01-18-2004, 04:56 PM	#154
pjstp20 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tallahassee, FL	Pathetic, Ive never seen anything like this, its almost like the refs are turning a blind eye

01-18-2004, 04:56 PM	#155
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	HOOOOLDIIIIING!!!!

01-18-2004, 04:57 PM	#158
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	After the replay, it doesn't look like he was held. If anything, I saw Pollard push off.

01-18-2004, 04:57 PM	#159
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	He was held on two straight plays. Refs need to throw the flags.

01-18-2004, 04:58 PM	#163
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Pollard was held a little on the first play that really didn't matter. The second play he was not held.

01-18-2004, 04:58 PM	#164
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Well if it was a hold it was illegal, was no hold though. You guys are looking for something thats not there.

01-18-2004, 04:58 PM	#166
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Colts fans don't worry. The NFL might apologize tomorrow

01-18-2004, 05:00 PM	#169
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Fumble

01-18-2004, 05:00 PM	#170
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	was that a straight brady rush? stupid call. it wasnt a fumble by the way. Last edited by jeff061 : 01-18-2004 at 05:01 PM.

01-18-2004, 05:00 PM	#171
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	A little being that the guy grab his jersey for about a half a second long before the ball was in the air. It was a little. It didn't effect the play.

01-18-2004, 05:00 PM	#172
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Sab, while the question of whether or not there was a hold is up in the air, it's tough to call any of these plays ones that 'really didn't matter.' PS - Are you kidding? They get another shot. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

01-18-2004, 05:00 PM	#173
pjstp20 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tallahassee, FL	Hey now the refs have a chance to redeem themselves

01-18-2004, 05:00 PM	#174
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	I think he was down though

01-18-2004, 05:01 PM	#175
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	No fumble.

01-18-2004, 05:01 PM	#176
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Then again, maybe not. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

01-18-2004, 05:01 PM	#177
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	HAHAHA! Man this brings back memories. Brady needs ref help again.

01-18-2004, 05:01 PM	#179
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	I hate reviews. Get rid of them. It should be judged by eye like baseball.

01-18-2004, 05:02 PM	#181
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	A nice hold by Brady at thte end though

01-18-2004, 05:02 PM	#183
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	If karma had any say in the NFL then this would be ruled a fumble. Unfortunately it looks like the Pats are going to catch yet another break. Oh well. Pats are a great team and I'll enjoy watching them in the Super Bowl. __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

01-18-2004, 05:03 PM	#184
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Well, i'm glad we may win this game. Its obvious everyone was rooting for the Colts. This is almost as satisfying as beating the steelers 2 years ago(not quite though).

01-18-2004, 05:05 PM	#185
Tekneek Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: USA	I have never seen so many holding calls go uncalled in a game before. Absolutely incredible. That entire officiating crew needs to be fired on the spot.

01-18-2004, 05:05 PM	#186
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	Im not rooting for anyone but I hate to see the refs and reviews ruin the game. I lost interest in the NFL when the replay was brought in.

01-18-2004, 05:06 PM	#189
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	4 interceptions, a defense that let the patriots freely into the red zone every possesion, and the ref's ruined the game? Anyway, i'm probably the only Patriots fan in existence that hates instant replay . Last edited by jeff061 : 01-18-2004 at 05:07 PM.

01-18-2004, 05:10 PM	#194
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Those may have been the worst two back to back calls I've ever seen in such a big game. If that was any indication as to what was going on with Pollard and the slot receivers all day, it's no wonder the Patriots shut Manning down and there was never anywhere to throw the ball. For the record: The rule is NO contact after 5 yards. Certainly not one guy gets to hit him for 5 yards, then the next guy needs to hit him for 5 yards. --------------------------------------------------- Now, having said all of that, the right team won the game. I think the Patriots outplayed the Colts for much of the day and I think the coaching of the Colts was horrible all day. What the hell kind of an onside kick was that? What in the hell are you doing rushing THREE guys on Tom Brady a lot of the day? You think you are going to confuse him? Christ, mix up your defenses, but don't be stupid. All I have to say is that I'd better NEVER hear about another Boston fan complain about the Yankees getting all of the breaks and close calls. The Patriots two Super Bowl runs have been full of them. That doesn't take away from the fact they are a great football team, but only a die hard blinded by the silver helmut Patriot fan could see they haven't caught more breaks than a dog hit by a semi in their last two playoff runs.

01-18-2004, 05:11 PM	#196
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	wow, bad play by Walters, they needed at least a FG to try and have a shot.

01-18-2004, 05:11 PM	#197
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Back to the bowl baby. I leave all the haters to argue over excuses. Deja Vu all over again. TroyF, the main difference his the Patriots take advantage of all their breaks. Same with turnovers. Thats what people seem to miss. A lot of teams get brakes, do nothing with them, and are forgotten about. Last edited by jeff061 : 01-18-2004 at 05:12 PM.

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