2010 College Football Hiring/Firing Thread - Page 4

Swaggs · 12-13-2010, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MJ4H

Well it would cost him a pretty penny if so.

His buyouts are as follows:

$18 mil each of next two seasons ...

$17.9 mil in '13, $14.5mil in '14, $10.8 mil in '15

Also expanded the no-compete clause to include all of the SEC instead of just the SEC West.

You're right, he's as good as gone.

I was just reading up on this and don't understand the non-compete part. Why does it exclude specific schools AND have a huge buyout? If Georgia or Florida want to pay (the ridiculous figure of) $18 mil for him, what is Arkansas going to do? Or are the buyouts only enforced for SEC schools (that makes a little sense)?

Ksyrup · 12-13-2010, 09:57 AM

Sounds like they want to make it incredibly expensive for him to go anywhere, AND they don't want him leaving for an SEC team. Makes sense from the school's perspective. I think he's shown enough that they know he would have no problem going to a team they'd play every year, and they want a guarantee he won't do that in exchange for all the money they are giving him.

Swaggs · 12-13-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Sounds like they want to make it incredibly expensive for him to go anywhere, AND they don't want him leaving for an SEC team. Makes sense from the school's perspective. I think he's shown enough that they know he would have no problem going to a team they'd play every year, and they want a guarantee he won't do that in exchange for all the money they are giving him.

I can see that, but if $18 milion isn't prohibitive enough to stop him from leaving (which obviously it will be) then is a non-compete clause, with a prolonged legal battle, really going to stop him?

It just seems like overkill. Kind of like telling your wife that you'll divorce her if she cheats on you, but you will really divorce her if she cheats on you with someone from the neighborhood.

Ksyrup · 12-13-2010, 10:19 AM

I don't know anything about non-competes in this kind of setting, but I would think that a school might be dissuaded from spending $18M on him if it came with the uncertainty that he might be barred from taking over immediately. If a school hired him, you'd have to think Arkansas would immediately go get a TRO based on the non-compete, and at a minimum, he might not be able to recruit and put together a staff until the legal matter was settled (likely for more money). Presumably, someone at Arkansas who knows about these things figures it would stand up in court (or is at least arguable), otherwise I agree that it's probably just overkill.

digamma · 12-13-2010, 01:44 PM

Malzahn to stay at Auburn.

According to EDSBS, Malzahn's father just got PAID!

Ksyrup · 12-13-2010, 02:48 PM

Listening to the local Tallahassee sports guy, and he's reading a report that Kirby Smart is headed to Florida to be DC. Kinda odd lateral move for a guy who might be a HC soon, if true.

DeToxRox · 12-13-2010, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Listening to the local Tallahassee sports guy, and he's reading a report that Kirby Smart is headed to Florida to be DC. Kinda odd lateral move for a guy who might be a HC soon, if true.

I read Smart makes 750k a year at Bama. I guess if Florida will make him a seven figure DC it makes sense but that seems excessive considering Muschamp is a defensive guy as it is.

Matthean · 12-13-2010, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Listening to the local Tallahassee sports guy, and he's reading a report that Kirby Smart is headed to Florida to be DC. Kinda odd lateral move for a guy who might be a HC soon, if true.

Might be a premature announcement. It really makes no sense for him to be a DC elsewhere.

Ksyrup · 12-13-2010, 02:54 PM

Not an announcement, more like a rumor (or a report - isn't that what established reporters call a rumor they feel compelled to announce?). Not even sure where it was from.

Ksyrup · 12-13-2010, 02:57 PM

Actually just googled this and it's all over the place - so much so that someone with the AJC blogged about it today. So there appears to be some smoke.

DeToxRox · 12-13-2010, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Not an announcement, more like a rumor (or a report - isn't that what established reporters call a rumor they feel compelled to announce?). Not even sure where it was from.

Apparently Smart/Muschamp are good friends which is why this all started.

Matthean · 12-13-2010, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Not an announcement, more like a rumor (or a report - isn't that what established reporters call a rumor they feel compelled to announce?). Not even sure where it was from.

http://twitter.com/ESPN_MobileCFB/st...09044928237568

At least one source of the rumor.

DeToxRox · 12-13-2010, 03:03 PM

So I have been away the last two weeks finishing up a 35 page paper but at least I know I missed nothing in the coaching search. The only rumors out there are not coming from the AD's office. There is some buzz Harbaugh has a deal worked out but wanted to coach Luck's final game at Stanford. It seems feasible but I have no idea what to make of it.

Most likely Rich is fired after the bowl game, win or lose. Brandon takes heat if we win for firing him after a win, or he takes heat for waiting so long to fire him if we lose. The job posts, and a week later the heat dies down when Harbaugh is announced as HC. That is the only way this entire thing even somewhat works as Harbaugh is a great recruiter and can easily put together a solid class in three weeks.

If we wait, fire Rich and hire Hoke, then it is just awful. I like Hoke; think he will be a damn fine coach, but recruits don't know him. Three weeks for him to introduce himself to potential recruits isn't enough time to save the class.

If Rich stays it's an abject failure because it paralyzed recruiting in the interim.

I just want this shit to be over.

MJ4H · 12-13-2010, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I was just reading up on this and don't understand the non-compete part. Why does it exclude specific schools AND have a huge buyout? If Georgia or Florida want to pay (the ridiculous figure of) $18 mil for him, what is Arkansas going to do? Or are the buyouts only enforced for SEC schools (that makes a little sense)?

I'm pretty sure all of this is just a show for recruits anyway. The school and coach want to make a statement that stops this job-hopper BS that comes up every time Urban Meyer spazzes out for a few minutes or whatever.

Swaggs · 12-13-2010, 03:58 PM

Some WVU "news" coming out that has been quietly brewing for a few weeks has seeped into some other forums. It looks like there is a decent chance that the Mountaineers' current OC will leave to take the head coaching job at Kent State and that current Oklahoma State OC Dana Holgorsen is looking to come to be OC and CIW (for one season). Not sure if it actually has legs, but these two pieces of info just came out:

From the PPG's Pitt beat writer, who last night pegged Holgorsen as the Panthers' #1 choice to replace Wanny:

Holgorsen Will Not be Next Head Coach

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* Interesting developments in the carosel of coaching.......According to a very good source - and believe me, sources are always very sketchy but this one has never steered me wrong -- Dana Holgorsen will not be the next head coach of Pitt.

That's all I can write about it now, I'll have more later and I can say it with confidence - Holgorsen is not going to be the head coach at Pitt, pass it on to all who care.

But that doesn't mean he might not still end up in the Big East......

and then Robert Giovanetti, of Texas Tech's Rivals.com site (Holgorsen was a long-time assistant and OC under Leach), tweets:

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If Dana Holgorsen doesn't take the Pitt job he could end up at West Virginia as the OC for a year and then take over when Stewart retires

Who knows if this is going down, but if it does, I will be visiting Pitt's messageboard and doing this:

DeToxRox · 12-13-2010, 04:01 PM

Holgorsen spurning Pitt to wait a year for WVU would be awesome.

Also one of the Texas sites is reporting Mike Leach is a viable option to be their OC. I don't buy it but it makes some sense. He isn't going to get a HC job any time soon so if he goes to a big school like UT and is able to play nice I can see it rehabbing his reputation enough to eventually get a BCS gig.

That said, the chances of something like that are 10% tops.

Atocep · 12-13-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Some WVU "news" coming out that has been quietly brewing for a few weeks has seeped into some other forums. It looks like there is a decent chance that the Mountaineers' current OC will leave to take the head coaching job at Kent State and that current Oklahoma State OC Dana Holgorsen is looking to come to be OC and CIW (for one season). Not sure if it actually has legs, but these two pieces of info just came out:

From the PPG's Pitt beat writer, who last night pegged Holgorsen as the Panthers' #1 choice to replace Wanny:

Holgorsen Will Not be Next Head Coach

and then Robert Giovanetti, of Texas Tech's Rivals.com site (Holgorsen was a long-time assistant and OC under Leach), tweets:

Who knows if this is going down, but if it does, I will be visiting Pitt's messageboard and doing this:

If what some of the Pitt fans said about the way Wanny ended up resigning are true they're going to have a hard time bringing someone in because they're a mess right now.

MJ4H · 12-13-2010, 04:26 PM

People now saying Gus turned down Vandy job. who the heck knows anymore?

Matthean · 12-13-2010, 05:48 PM

Auburn Tigers offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn snubs Vanderbilt offer, source says - ESPN

Stays and nearly triples his salary.

Atocep · 12-13-2010, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Auburn Tigers offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn snubs Vanderbilt offer, source says - ESPN

Stays and nearly triples his salary.

$1.3 million is probably more than half of what D-1FBS head coaches are making.

MrBug708 · 12-13-2010, 08:11 PM

No sense in leaving yet. There will be other jobs

Atocep · 12-13-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Some WVU "news" coming out that has been quietly brewing for a few weeks has seeped into some other forums. It looks like there is a decent chance that the Mountaineers' current OC will leave to take the head coaching job at Kent State and that current Oklahoma State OC Dana Holgorsen is looking to come to be OC and CIW (for one season). Not sure if it actually has legs, but these two pieces of info just came out:

From the PPG's Pitt beat writer, who last night pegged Holgorsen as the Panthers' #1 choice to replace Wanny:

Holgorsen Will Not be Next Head Coach

and then Robert Giovanetti, of Texas Tech's Rivals.com site (Holgorsen was a long-time assistant and OC under Leach), tweets:

Who knows if this is going down, but if it does, I will be visiting Pitt's messageboard and doing this:

This may happen very quickly if what's being said is true. It's also not going to be as smooth of a transition as anyone would have liked.

DeToxRox · 12-13-2010, 09:24 PM

This means nothing but since all the Vegas books took the Iowa/Mizzou game off the board this is nothing if not topical.

Bodog had a prop bet on the odds of Harbaugh going to Michigan. On Friday it was 5 to 1. Last night it got down to 3.5 to 1. Today it's gone.

Since our AD is literally so tight lipped about it there is no way anything has really leaked. The Rivals site even came out and basically insinuated there are a few people who know things and all they can say is if they open their mouths and it comes back to them they are fired.

Swaggs · 12-13-2010, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

This may happen very quickly if what's being said is true. It's also not going to be as smooth of a transition as anyone would have liked.

I really don't like the direction this is headed in. I don't see how Stewart can return next season and have a working relationship with Luck, so I will be surprised if the bowl game is not his final game as head coach.

Ousting Stew, for anyone other than a successful/established head coach, in a 9-3 season is going to further the divide in the fan base and create even more unrealistic expectations.

Oliver Luck is really putting his neck on the line if this happens.

RainMaker · 12-13-2010, 11:02 PM

Just curious for those who follow the coaching changes much more than me, how come Pat Fitzgerald's name never gets thrown around? He's done a pretty damn good job at Northwestern and I'm surprised he doesn't get mentioned at other schools that can bring in better players than Northwestern. Wouldn't he be a poor man's Jim Harbaugh?

DeToxRox · 12-13-2010, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Just curious for those who follow the coaching changes much more than me, how come Pat Fitzgerald's name never gets thrown around? He's done a pretty damn good job at Northwestern and I'm surprised he doesn't get mentioned at other schools that can bring in better players than Northwestern. Wouldn't he be a poor man's Jim Harbaugh?

He's my #1 dream choice for Michigan but he's a NW guy. I don't think he'd ever leave his alma mater unless he got to a point where he realized he was maxed out at what the school can do.

sovereignstar v2 · 12-13-2010, 11:06 PM

Because he bleeds purple.

RainMaker · 12-13-2010, 11:06 PM

Yeah, I thought he'd be an interesting pick for Michigan behind Harbaugh. I just don't know what else he can really do at Northwestern. There is only so much talent they can bring in and I think he maximizes that as well as anyone. Would love to see him with a team like Michigan who can bring in much better talent.

sovereignstar v2 · 12-13-2010, 11:10 PM

Well, he played for back-to-back Big Ten champions, so he probably believes he can accomplish more there than most.

Atocep · 12-14-2010, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I really don't like the direction this is headed in. I don't see how Stewart can return next season and have a working relationship with Luck, so I will be surprised if the bowl game is not his final game as head coach.

Ousting Stew, for anyone other than a successful/established head coach, in a 9-3 season is going to further the divide in the fan base and create even more unrealistic expectations.

Oliver Luck is really putting his neck on the line if this happens.

The misinformation on this one is getting as bad as when Rich left. Sounds like there's been talk and there's definitely mutual interest, but nothing is happening yet. I've heard no official announcement will be made until after the bowl, but if something happens we know it'll be out before then.

I'm really torn on this one.

Stew is a highly underrated coach and I really think Mullen's offense (assuming he stays) would be begin to take off next year. Devine was really hurting us this year. He just wasn't the same guy after the injury and he didn't seem to be there mentally before he got hurt. Once we switched to backs that could find the holes the line was making and consistently get positive yardage the offense looked much, much better.

However, I understand that Ollie is running a business and unfortunately Stew is getting to the point where he's really bad for business. He'd be a fool not to start looking around and preparing for the future.

DeToxRox · 12-14-2010, 12:46 AM

It seems like WVU has high aspirations. Holgorsen has a lot of potential, but he probably does need a year at WVU in another role before he took the reigns over. I know the rumor is if he doesn't go to WVU he may join Muschamp as the OC at UF. Frankly I'd keep Stew a year, let Holgorsen possibly go be OC at UF a year so he can make in roads in the state and also develop a name, then try to hire him.

Risky game but there will always be other candidates.

Swaggs · 12-14-2010, 11:04 AM

Hard to believe, but it looks like Oliver Luck is bringing in the dreaded HCIW to take over for Coach Stewart.

I guess the new precedent is that 9-wins is not good enough at WVU and I think that is really unrealistic.

http://www.wvgazette.com/latest/201012140659

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Source: Holgorsen to WVU
Stewart to stay head coach one more year
By Mitch Vingle
The Charleston Gazette
Advertiser

CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- West Virginia University has landed the services of Oklahoma State offensive coordinator Dana Holgorsen.

According to a source that asked to remain anonymous, Holgorsen will take over as the Mountaineer offensive coordinator next season and then replace Stewart as head coach in 2012-13.

Stewart has agreed to stay on next season.

According to the source, WVU defensive coordinator Jeff Casteel and the entire defensive staff will be retained. Current Mountaineer offensive coordinator Jeff Mullen is apparently out whether he lands the open Kent State head coaching job or not.

DeToxRox · 12-14-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Hard to believe, but it looks like Oliver Luck is bringing in the dreaded HCIW to take over for Coach Stewart.

I guess the new precedent is that 9-wins is not good enough at WVU and I think that is really unrealistic.

http://www.wvgazette.com/latest/201012140659

Nothing good can come from this situation next year. Should pay dividend when Dana becomes the HC in 2012 but I feel like it'll be at the cost of 2011.

bronconick · 12-14-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Nothing good can come from this situation next year. Should pay dividend when Dana becomes the HC in 2012 but I feel like it'll be at the cost of 2011.

Being short an assistant recruiting for the next year won't help either.

Ksyrup · 12-14-2010, 11:13 AM

Yeah, someone just wrote an article on how the HCIW thing was over, and part of it was the fact that they closed the recruiting loophole so that HCIW has the same limits for visits as the HC.

timmynausea · 12-14-2010, 11:51 AM

Well, Holgorsen is being added for X's and O's, so I'm not as concerned about recruiting limitations for 1 year. If the O puts up numbers like Oklahoma St. did in his first year there, then I'd think that'd help recruiting enough to make up for anything else. This is a lot different than the open-ended Muschamp or etc. deals.

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Nothing good can come from this situation next year. Should pay dividend when Dana becomes the HC in 2012 but I feel like it'll be at the cost of 2011.

With WVU having just gone through a rough offensive transition (much like Michigan), I think your perspective makes sense, but I almost think this move is being made with 2011 in mind as much or more than anything else. WVU has a ton of offensive talent and experience back next year, and Holgorsen is seen as a guy that can quickly implement his offense, having done so with immediate success at Houston and OK St. recently.

I also think Luck is banking everything on doing as well as possible in the near future so WVU can be in a good position to get an ACC or SEC invite. In fact, looking long term, pushing Stew out for Holgorsen may be a very risky move as if DH does have success, he could be gone in a heartbeat for a Midwest school.

All of that said, it feels good to beat Pitt again.

Young Drachma · 12-14-2010, 02:10 PM

Source: Maryland Terrapins' offensive coordinator James Franklin to take head coach job with Vanderbilt Commodores - ESPN

Ksyrup · 12-14-2010, 02:14 PM

Two HCIW's gone...who is left?

Atocep · 12-14-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by timmynausea

All of that said, it feels good to beat Pitt again.

Pitt turned him down because he failed their background check.

Swaggs · 12-14-2010, 06:29 PM

Yeah. Paul Zeise must have been threatened with being cut off. I'm not sure I have ever seen a bigger backtrack job.

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Pitt turned him down because he failed their background check.

Swaggs · 12-15-2010, 10:01 AM

Unless they hit a snag, Pitt looks like they will go with Miami (OH) head coach (and former Notre Dame OC under Weis) Mike Haywood. He went 1-11 in his first year, but turned it around in year 2, going 9-4 and winning the MAC.

I'm not sure that this is going to be an upgrade over Wanny, but some pretty good coaches have come out of the MAC in the past ten years (Urban Meyer, Brady Hoke, Brian Kelly) and a couple more have been given good opportunities (Turner Gill and Jerry Kill) at BCS schools.

Logan · 12-15-2010, 12:19 PM

Pretty interesting. Mark D'onofrio was offered the job to replace Al Golden as Head Coach of Temple, but instead turned it down to become Golden's DC at Miami.

Swaggs · 12-15-2010, 12:56 PM

I wonder if Leach would take the Temple job...

RomaGoth · 12-15-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I wonder if Leach would take the Temple job...

As long as Craig Anderson's son doesn't go there......

Passacaglia · 12-15-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

As long as Craig Anderson's son doesn't go there......

"I lost Anderbo and her beau!"

Atocep · 12-16-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Yeah. Paul Zeise must have been threatened with being cut off. I'm not sure I have ever seen a bigger backtrack job.

Did you see or hear about the Pitt press conference by chance?

The spin coming out of there to try and save face on this hire is hilarious.

Swaggs · 12-16-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Did you see or hear about the Pitt press conference by chance?

The spin coming out of there to try and save face on this hire is hilarious.

Yeah... that was just odd.

Looks like a good hire for Pitt... for WVU fans.

Atocep · 12-17-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Source: Maryland Terrapins' offensive coordinator James Franklin to take head coach job with Vanderbilt Commodores - ESPN

Forgot to comment on this when it was posted and remembered when some rumors started to circulate today that Maryland may be looking to ditch Fridge.

Vandy probably did Maryland a favor here. Rumor last year was Maryland already regretted the HCIW deal with Franklin and was hoping to find away out of it if they got rid of Fridge.

tarcone · 12-17-2010, 04:48 PM

Iowa DC Norm Parker coming back next season.

Parker had major complications with his diabetes this season. He had a foot amputated and spent considerable time in the hospital. He was missed on the sideline.

RomaGoth · 12-17-2010, 04:54 PM

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He was missed on the sideline.

Too bad the Dolphins' Nolan Carroll wasn't.......

Hey-yo......

12-13-2010, 09:57 AM	#152
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Sounds like they want to make it incredibly expensive for him to go anywhere, AND they don't want him leaving for an SEC team. Makes sense from the school's perspective. I think he's shown enough that they know he would have no problem going to a team they'd play every year, and they want a guarantee he won't do that in exchange for all the money they are giving him. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

12-13-2010, 10:19 AM	#154
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I don't know anything about non-competes in this kind of setting, but I would think that a school might be dissuaded from spending $18M on him if it came with the uncertainty that he might be barred from taking over immediately. If a school hired him, you'd have to think Arkansas would immediately go get a TRO based on the non-compete, and at a minimum, he might not be able to recruit and put together a staff until the legal matter was settled (likely for more money). Presumably, someone at Arkansas who knows about these things figures it would stand up in court (or is at least arguable), otherwise I agree that it's probably just overkill. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

12-13-2010, 01:44 PM	#155
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	Malzahn to stay at Auburn. According to EDSBS, Malzahn's father just got PAID! Last edited by digamma : 12-13-2010 at 01:45 PM.

12-13-2010, 02:48 PM	#156
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Listening to the local Tallahassee sports guy, and he's reading a report that Kirby Smart is headed to Florida to be DC. Kinda odd lateral move for a guy who might be a HC soon, if true. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

12-13-2010, 02:54 PM	#159
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Not an announcement, more like a rumor (or a report - isn't that what established reporters call a rumor they feel compelled to announce?). Not even sure where it was from. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

12-13-2010, 02:57 PM	#160
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Actually just googled this and it's all over the place - so much so that someone with the AJC blogged about it today. So there appears to be some smoke. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

12-13-2010, 03:03 PM	#163
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	So I have been away the last two weeks finishing up a 35 page paper but at least I know I missed nothing in the coaching search. The only rumors out there are not coming from the AD's office. There is some buzz Harbaugh has a deal worked out but wanted to coach Luck's final game at Stanford. It seems feasible but I have no idea what to make of it. Most likely Rich is fired after the bowl game, win or lose. Brandon takes heat if we win for firing him after a win, or he takes heat for waiting so long to fire him if we lose. The job posts, and a week later the heat dies down when Harbaugh is announced as HC. That is the only way this entire thing even somewhat works as Harbaugh is a great recruiter and can easily put together a solid class in three weeks. If we wait, fire Rich and hire Hoke, then it is just awful. I like Hoke; think he will be a damn fine coach, but recruits don't know him. Three weeks for him to introduce himself to potential recruits isn't enough time to save the class. If Rich stays it's an abject failure because it paralyzed recruiting in the interim. I just want this shit to be over.

12-13-2010, 04:01 PM	#166
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Holgorsen spurning Pitt to wait a year for WVU would be awesome. Also one of the Texas sites is reporting Mike Leach is a viable option to be their OC. I don't buy it but it makes some sense. He isn't going to get a HC job any time soon so if he goes to a big school like UT and is able to play nice I can see it rehabbing his reputation enough to eventually get a BCS gig. That said, the chances of something like that are 10% tops.

12-13-2010, 04:26 PM	#168
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	People now saying Gus turned down Vandy job. who the heck knows anymore?

12-13-2010, 05:48 PM	#169
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Auburn Tigers offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn snubs Vanderbilt offer, source says - ESPN Stays and nearly triples his salary. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

12-13-2010, 08:11 PM	#171
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	No sense in leaving yet. There will be other jobs

12-13-2010, 09:24 PM	#173
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	This means nothing but since all the Vegas books took the Iowa/Mizzou game off the board this is nothing if not topical. Bodog had a prop bet on the odds of Harbaugh going to Michigan. On Friday it was 5 to 1. Last night it got down to 3.5 to 1. Today it's gone. Since our AD is literally so tight lipped about it there is no way anything has really leaked. The Rivals site even came out and basically insinuated there are a few people who know things and all they can say is if they open their mouths and it comes back to them they are fired.

12-13-2010, 11:02 PM	#175
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Just curious for those who follow the coaching changes much more than me, how come Pat Fitzgerald's name never gets thrown around? He's done a pretty damn good job at Northwestern and I'm surprised he doesn't get mentioned at other schools that can bring in better players than Northwestern. Wouldn't he be a poor man's Jim Harbaugh?

12-13-2010, 11:06 PM	#177
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	Because he bleeds purple.

12-13-2010, 11:06 PM	#178
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Yeah, I thought he'd be an interesting pick for Michigan behind Harbaugh. I just don't know what else he can really do at Northwestern. There is only so much talent they can bring in and I think he maximizes that as well as anyone. Would love to see him with a team like Michigan who can bring in much better talent.

12-13-2010, 11:10 PM	#179
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	Well, he played for back-to-back Big Ten champions, so he probably believes he can accomplish more there than most.

12-14-2010, 12:46 AM	#181
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	It seems like WVU has high aspirations. Holgorsen has a lot of potential, but he probably does need a year at WVU in another role before he took the reigns over. I know the rumor is if he doesn't go to WVU he may join Muschamp as the OC at UF. Frankly I'd keep Stew a year, let Holgorsen possibly go be OC at UF a year so he can make in roads in the state and also develop a name, then try to hire him. Risky game but there will always be other candidates.

12-14-2010, 11:13 AM	#185
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Yeah, someone just wrote an article on how the HCIW thing was over, and part of it was the fact that they closed the recruiting loophole so that HCIW has the same limits for visits as the HC. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

12-14-2010, 02:10 PM	#187
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Source: Maryland Terrapins' offensive coordinator James Franklin to take head coach job with Vanderbilt Commodores - ESPN __________________ FBCB / FPB3 Mods

12-14-2010, 02:14 PM	#188
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Two HCIW's gone...who is left? __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

12-15-2010, 10:01 AM	#191
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Unless they hit a snag, Pitt looks like they will go with Miami (OH) head coach (and former Notre Dame OC under Weis) Mike Haywood. He went 1-11 in his first year, but turned it around in year 2, going 9-4 and winning the MAC. I'm not sure that this is going to be an upgrade over Wanny, but some pretty good coaches have come out of the MAC in the past ten years (Urban Meyer, Brady Hoke, Brian Kelly) and a couple more have been given good opportunities (Turner Gill and Jerry Kill) at BCS schools. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

12-15-2010, 12:19 PM	#192
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Pretty interesting. Mark D'onofrio was offered the job to replace Al Golden as Head Coach of Temple, but instead turned it down to become Golden's DC at Miami. Last edited by Logan : 12-15-2010 at 12:19 PM.

12-15-2010, 12:56 PM	#193
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I wonder if Leach would take the Temple job... __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

12-17-2010, 04:48 PM	#199
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Iowa DC Norm Parker coming back next season. Parker had major complications with his diabetes this season. He had a foot amputated and spent considerable time in the hospital. He was missed on the sideline.

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