10-22-2003, 10:51 AM | #151 |
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You know who I need on O, and you know who I want on O. I trust you to pull out your slide rules, take a "whole team" view and do what is right in the FA market considering our budget. Also--as stated above, if you can find an OL in FA who is good value, I would not be opposed to you picking him up for depth purposes later in FA. |
10-22-2003, 10:52 AM | #152 |
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I am just going to cry if the LB I have mentioned don't even get offers from us.
Dammit, I am starting already.
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10-22-2003, 11:14 AM | #153 | |
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Because of our rules (bonus must be as large as the highest annual salary) I tend to flatten out the offers - give them a deal with salaries that are pretty close to being flat year to year, and thereby minimizing the amount we end up paying in bonus. So, rather than offer: $6m bonus, salaries of 2,2,4,6 I'd rather offer: $4m bonus, salaries of 4,4,4,4 ...even though both of those are 4yr, $20m deals. In case we have a train wreck with injury or malperformance, we can get out more easily with less in bonus at stake. That's my general path - the difference isn't usually all that stark, and with lower-level players, there's not much ability to do that... but with bigger deals, I'll dump them down to flatten out the offer. |
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10-22-2003, 11:15 AM | #154 |
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I'm going to start working through the FA offers... and wil submit a tentative plan before going ahead...
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10-22-2003, 11:21 AM | #155 | |
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Thanks for the feedback. Makes perfect sense.
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10-22-2003, 11:26 AM | #156 |
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I'm a little behind here so I forget who's been mentioned, but at LB we might consider WLB Maurice Reese. Could be a monster blitzer, so we could consider a switch to SLB. Only about $3M a year. WLB Derek Wallace (I see now that he has been mentioned) is great against the run, diagnoses plays and is very good at B&R. Hits hard too. Big enough (270) to play end, though he doesn't pass rush well. MLB Alonzo Epperson is interesting, as he is 100 on ST and B&R. Asking $5,340,000, 2 yrs.
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10-22-2003, 11:29 AM | #157 |
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I have not asked for blitzers
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10-22-2003, 11:30 AM | #158 |
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LDT Desmond Van Caeyzeele is fairly cheap for a DT, $5,890,000, 2 yrs. Saggitarius, so there's an affinity.
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10-22-2003, 11:31 AM | #159 | |
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then disregard Reese...
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10-22-2003, 11:33 AM | #160 |
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Free Agency Process
Okay, here are the initial offers that I have submitted prior to the FA process beginning, listing their cap effect for this year: Code:
That, to me, looks like a plan for spending our money. It’s right in the neighborhood of what we have available. And if we fail to lock up one or two of these players (I don’t know what the market will be for Gomez or Perkins) then we have fall-back plans, including guys on our own roster like CB Bordano (if his demands are too high to get any interest, which I think is quite possible) and RB Harden (who will not get any offers from anyone, period). I also have a backdoor proposal in mind for later – we might think about re-signing WR Eric Mixon and seeing is he would re-adjust to the RB position. He’s asking for a pittance, but was always a better RB than WR… just a thought there. And if we end up stacking our WR position with big dollar guys, there’s no real use for the marginal players we went out of our way to acquire last year anyway – so maybe we think about doing the same thing with Kendrick Ellison, too. (Try Mixon first, then Ellison, I say) |
10-22-2003, 11:34 AM | #161 |
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CHEMISTRY REFERENCE
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And our CURRENT position leaders are: Code:
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10-22-2003, 11:38 AM | #162 |
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Problem. WR Wes Gomez is a Libra, and would conflict with our current receivers leader TE Diana, who is a Taurus. I don't think we can pursue Gomez, unless someone has an angle here...
Gomez has 6 years exp and a leadership rating of 69 Diana has 15 years exp and a leadership rating of 64 Looks like a pretty close call... but i'm not sure I want to eat $10 million in bonus money to find out. And I don't feel like it's within our rules to "sim ahead" and see how it would work out - that's always been against the rules in every GT for any purpose. |
10-22-2003, 11:40 AM | #163 |
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Do we just plug in an offer for WR Courtney Adderley instead? He's a Virgo, would be chemistry neutral. Wants a bit more in salary, but I might be able to work something out... almost certainly means that we'd cut LB Daniels (who would have been anle to stick around with the signings list up to this point).
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10-22-2003, 11:41 AM | #164 | |
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That's fine. We will find a place for $11,000,000 elsewhere. |
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10-22-2003, 11:46 AM | #165 |
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What of SE Alex Wilkerson? All-league 2nd team last year. Wants $20,480,000, 3 yrs.
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10-22-2003, 11:46 AM | #166 | |
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I'm on the fence with this one. It would be really nice to have two solid WRs to whom to throw the ball, as well as some depth there. At the same time, we would be saving a lot of $$ by not making a big FA splash at WR. The more I think about it, the more I don't know if I want the pressure of having to get big numbers with my expensive new toy at WR. Perhaps let's save that money this time and find a place to spend it in the future. |
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10-22-2003, 11:47 AM | #167 | |
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I would not be opposed to something in the middle. A WR with a little less talent than Adderly/Gomez, but at a discount price. |
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10-22-2003, 11:48 AM | #168 |
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Found another possible switcher... NT Sherman Wells is a Virgo (affinity) and not yet well developed in his 5th year. At 280 lbs, I think he'd switch over to DE fairly well.. and for only $1.4m, he'd be a pretty cheap, potenially effective roster filler there. Even if he won't re-slot to DE, he'd still be a guy we could use in our DL rotation as a pass rusher from either position. I'm putting in an offer for him for two years, minsal, no bonus. No risk contract.
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10-22-2003, 11:49 AM | #169 |
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Would it make sense to hold out at WR, and see what is there after several weeks' time? We can add up to two new pursuits after the FA process starts - maybe we keep WR in mind as one of those slots?
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10-22-2003, 11:51 AM | #170 | |
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Well, Wilkerson is 48/48, and is 75 drops, 26 downfield, 80 route runnint, 28 3rd down, 50 big play, 92 courage. Only 4 adjust to ball. He is in the $6-7M range, which is much cheaper. He had 1219 yards in 15 games last year, 989 in 13 the year before. He's been in the league 8 years. Low leadership (23). |
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10-22-2003, 11:56 AM | #171 |
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Just trying to keep up… WR out, two DL in…
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With this list, we would definitely be able to retain LB Daniels, and still have some cash to pursue one more player later in the FA period. |
10-22-2003, 11:59 AM | #172 |
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That's fine by me then.
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10-22-2003, 11:59 AM | #173 | |
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Run with it as far as I am concerned. |
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10-22-2003, 11:59 AM | #174 |
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With WR Wilkerson, you pay him $7 million a year - but how much do you get from him? Comparie him to the best guys available who want $3-4 million (the list where Everett Thomas jumped out) and see those guys -- Robbie Stanford, Derek Farmer, Nlan Sills (old), hell, even Julio Mathews (our old guy) -- these guys all look like perfectly capable receivers, not far behind a guy like Wilkerson in my mind.
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10-22-2003, 12:00 PM | #175 |
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Ok, don't have to do much to convince me. Heck, I'd be happy to keep Mixon at receiver
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10-22-2003, 12:08 PM | #176 |
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Since we have some cusion in our finances here, I'm going to add a couple more pursuits who will accept bonus-free offers. No risk - we can cut them if we want to later, but we'd get some depth this way... ad I think some of these guys have been mentioned along the way, at least in passing:
TE Jay Humphrey for $1.4m RG Bucky Stewart for $1.45m CB Bo Cassidy for $1.0m CB Clifton Compton for $1.4m CB Alan Stockton for $1.0m We can also keep in mind that our nickel safety Orlando McNair will listen to a deal from us for around $4m or so... and our DC likes him, not to mention the GM. |
10-22-2003, 12:40 PM | #177 |
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This is between rebooting servers, so I did not read closely.
remember the CB I mentioned earlier than my general scouting. He would be a solid STer and fair enough in the dime. Love all those cheap CBs. I am willing to start McNair.
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10-22-2003, 01:00 PM | #178 |
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I'm cool with the no risk guys.
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10-22-2003, 01:01 PM | #179 |
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Catching up after lunch.
Considering our QB's are generally on the lower end of the talent scale, it is probably wise to not invest so much money in two star receivers without a QB who can get them the ball. Therefore I think it is actually better that Gomez wasn't a fit. Perhaps a solid backup at RB for Finley. Maybe a big potential guy since Finley is nearing the end of his contract (isn't he?). Of course we can probably get one of these in the first or second round of the draft. Or another thought would be to get another quality TE to complement Wylie (and back him up in case of injury). This would allow ALM to run some 2 TE sets and give Finley another set of holes to run through. TE's tend to be value priced.
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10-22-2003, 01:04 PM | #180 |
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How much do we expect Harden's demands to go down once FA ends? Do our rules allow us to make an offer to him, then?
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10-22-2003, 01:05 PM | #181 | |
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I don't think they do: Players other than undrafted rookies may only be acquired during the draft and the 20-stage FA process
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10-22-2003, 01:19 PM | #182 | |
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We can make an offer to him any time... so if we were going to do it, we'd probably want to do so either at the end of the FA period, or perhaps after the rookie draft (esp. if we don't get a playable guy from the draft for some reason). |
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10-22-2003, 01:21 PM | #183 | |
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Here is the list of DBs you pointed out at one point, Fritz... I believe we have offers in to at least three of them, maybe four. |
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10-22-2003, 01:22 PM | #184 | |
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He's not being acquired - he'a already on our team. He's just getting a new contract. I could alter the wording if it's unclear, but that's how we've been using it all along, and how it was originally intended. |
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10-22-2003, 01:23 PM | #185 | |
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I think the guy we are pursuing cheap will be a perfectly adequate backup as either the #2 or #3 TE, and is very affordable. |
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10-22-2003, 01:27 PM | #186 |
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Cool--let's keep him in mind, then, if we have some cash post-draft.
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10-22-2003, 01:38 PM | #187 | |
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Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.
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10-22-2003, 01:39 PM | #188 |
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As it seems we have at least come pretty close to consensus, I’m starting up the free agency period.
The first week always lets us know where things are going, and we have one particular concern – there is a bidding war for CB Bo Perkins, and our 2yr, $30m offer might not hold up. We are the most bonus-heavy offer out there (I expect), but his current team Providence is in the bidding, and so is Fort Worth with a 3yr $48m deal. To get him, we may need to bump up a shade. I go to 3yrs, $48m – which places our offer as the richest on the table. Elsewhere, generally good news. LB Custer and CB Compton are already aboard, while our offer tops everyone else’s list. DE Bryan Manning (shiver) has inked a big deal with Sacramento, where he will no doubt spring back into good health and bust up the record books. Week Two – we land several of our target players, including big money man Bo Perkins. Everything looks to be going very smoothly. In week three, CB Edgar Bordano receives his first offer - $150 million over six years, from Fort Knox. He decides to sit on it – might be a bad move. The following week, Bordano inks the deal, and moves on to play for the Glitters. DT Sherman Wells signs with us, and agrees to the position switch to play DE on the left side. He’s a punishing hitter, and has some potential as a pass rusher – a pretty cheap fill-in at a tough-to-fill position. After 10 weeks, all our business is through. Here is a look at our roster at this point, with contract details: Code:
We are pretty close to our limit – but it’s not out of the question to see us getting a new deal with S McNair within the confines of our current setup. I will distribute the files, let everyone look at what we have, and then we can chart our course from there. We have more players than we need, which is a nice luxury – we can tinker with our draft if need be, or we can just cut to make space as needed. Plus, there’s still the option of releasing LB Daniels if we find a free agent that we really want to pursue – doing so would immediately clear out $11 million (with no cap consequences for next year). |
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File update #1 of 2
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I think we need to look at CB -- we now have six guys on the roster, including Duran who is a goner... so really five. Lock Perkins down as our guy against the top opposing WR, fine.
Now, who else starts? Devitt has been on our bench, but actually has some skills (35/79 MTM, 51/62 BNR) - not much of ballhawker. Cassidy, Compton, and Stockton are all basically fill-in caliber players... I don't think any of them really fit the mold as a starter by any means. Fritz, is this a crisis? Do we need to make an investment in our second CB position? Or can we get by with Devitt and some scheming to help him out? |
10-22-2003, 02:06 PM | #192 |
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Perhaps dump Daniels and go after CB Leon Henn?
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10-22-2003, 02:09 PM | #193 |
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I am multitasking and can't open the game. No matter what I have to work with we will be fine.
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10-22-2003, 02:16 PM | #194 |
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Leon Henn signed with Ocean City, just up the beach from us.
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10-22-2003, 02:18 PM | #195 |
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Oddly enough, some of the best fits remaining at CB are guys already on our roster - Henderson is probably the best guy left overall, and Shane Perry is a pretty good match for the Fritzystem (with very good BNR skills). Just sayin...
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10-22-2003, 02:31 PM | #196 | |
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Since we are familiar with Henderson, and since he did a decent job at #2 corner last year, sounds like he may be our man. Perry was primarily a nickelback blitzer in the AML system.
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10-22-2003, 03:52 PM | #197 |
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Another option, if we are willing, is to use a player like SS Christian Cassidy as a cornerback, and place him into coverage directly. He has excellent cover skills, and I suspect he'd be better than most of the guys we're looknig at picking up for a reasonable price. We could start McNair at safety, and use Cassidy as a CB starter.
Not precluded by our rules... but I don't know about ho thw DC would feel about it. He seemed hinky about RB-to-WR switches last season as OC. |
10-22-2003, 03:55 PM | #198 |
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By the way, you may notice that I made an offer to S Ricky Hawkins for just one year... since he's getting up in age, I didn't want to risk having to eat a giant amount of bonus next season if he retires after this season.
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Good thinking.
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