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No, what he is saying is that we need more rules to make it harder to get, "elite QB, 2 elite RB's, and an elite WR on offense...2 very good CB's and a star MLB. "
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What house rules are you going to use to stop that? All of those guys were 1st round draft picks for us except for Biggs and Morrell. I'll buy Quik's argument that the fact that we can spot guys like Morrell and Biggs in the 3rd and 5th round gives us an advantage, but even then had we not landed those guys we porbably would have kept McAllister who was another eite WR and a 1st round pick of ours. I understand the frustration with us being good right off the bat. That shouldn't happen. But once we have fielded a good team it doesn't seem that unrealistic to me that with all of us chipping in ideas for the best moves that we would continually field a good team. Especially when we are continually bringing back the core of our winning teams. |
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04-18-2003, 09:01 PM
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Dola,
Don't get me wrong. I am not trying to argue that there aren't AI issues with the game and that it isn't too easy for us to put a good product on the field. I just don't think there are any other rules we can put in place to keep us from getting good talent without having to resort to something like refsing ourselves 1st round picks or something.
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Even though I said house rules, I didn't necessarily mean house rules, the game is simply too easy. The alarming thing is the fact that it seems to be as easy or potentially easier than FOF2001. Some AI up grades must be made.
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04-19-2003, 08:20 AM
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Injuries: Duane Crawford, RB - Severe Hamstring Pull, Questionable, full strength in about 4 weeks. Cedric McGee, RT - Bad Cold, Probable, full strength in about 1 week. Bert Ellis, LDT - Broken Clavicle, Out, full strength in about 5 weeks. ----------- As much as we are dominating, I don't understand the many poor performances some of our best Offensive Linemen put in..
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04-19-2003, 08:24 AM
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[code] Box Score: Pensacola at Little Rock Little Rock, TX. Week 11, 1997 Attendance: 67,100 (69,500). Weather: 68 degrees, fair. 1Q: 13:07 LTR - Cole Murray 43 field goal. 1Q: 05:39 LTR - Cole Murray 45 field goal. 2Q: 13:39 LTR - Matthew Morrell 4 pass from Otis Coghill. 2Q: 13:39 LTR - Cole Murray extra point. 2Q: 05:20 PEN - Martin Hiller 3 pass from Jerry Sanderson. 2Q: 05:20 PEN - Bart Burton extra point. 2Q: 00:17 PEN - Bart Burton 53 field goal. 2Q: 00:00 LTR - Cole Murray 58 field goal. 3Q: 00:53 LTR - Karl Dockery 9 pass from Otis Coghill. 3Q: 00:53 LTR - Bo Biggs run for conversion. Game MVP: PEN 2 Jerry Sanderson Pensacola 0 10 0 0 - 10 Little Rock 6 10 8 0 - 24 Team Statistics PEN LTR First Downs 16 21 Total Rushes 10 41 Rushing Yards 21 180 Yards Per Carry 2.1 4.3 Pass Attempts 46 26 Completions 21 18 Passing Yards 212 192 Yards Per Attempt 4.6 7.3 Sacked 5 2 Yards Lost 27 16 Interceptions 0 0 Fumbles/Lost 0/0 1/0 Total Plays 56 67 Total Yards 233 372 Yards Per Play 4.1 5.5 3rd Down Plays 4/15 5/15 Avg. YTG on 3rd 10.0 8.1 4th Down Plays 0/1 0/0 Penalties 3 4 Penalty Yards 15 30 Avg. Drive Start OWN 28 OWN 27 Time Of Possession 25:01 34:59 Pensacola Individual Statistics Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD 41 Crowninshield 8 17 2.1 9 0 2 Sanderson 1 3 3.0 3 0 38 Constable 1 1 1.0 1 0 Passing Att Comp Yards Yd/Att Long TD Int Sckd 2 Sanderson 46 21 212 4.6 24 1 0 5 Receiving Catch Yards Avg YAC Long TD 87 Reser 6 70 11.6 6 18 0 41 Crowninshield 4 39 9.7 22 24 0 47 Robinson 3 24 8.0 8 12 0 81 Hiller 2 16 8.0 3 13 1 36 Wansley 2 19 9.5 1 16 0 86 Burke 2 33 16.5 8 19 0 38 Constable 1 6 6.0 6 6 0 85 Jordan 1 5 5.0 4 5 0 Punt Returns Att Yards Avg TD 17 Whiting 4 10 2.5 0 Kick Returns Att Yards Avg TD 23 Barber 3 54 18.0 0 34 Norton 2 43 21.5 0 Punting Punts Yards Avg Long In20 13 Ingram 9 394 43.7 49 3 Kicking FG FGA Long PAT Att 16 Burton 1 1 53 1 1 Defense Tackle Assist Sack Int IntYds IntTD 21 Harry 6 1 0.0 0 0 0 75 Tindale 5 0 2.0 0 0 0 91 Harden 5 5 0.0 0 0 0 32 Madera 5 4 0.0 0 0 0 50 Terrell 5 4 0.0 0 0 0 34 Norton 5 1 0.0 0 0 0 98 Solymos 4 2 0.0 0 0 0 73 Pantoja 4 1 0.0 0 0 0 27 Chapman 4 1 0.0 0 0 0 97 Farner 4 0 0.0 0 0 0 90 MacL |
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Injuries: Duane Crawford, RB - Severe Hamstring Pull, Probable, full strength in about 3 weeks. Ethan Brock, FB - Severe Wrist Sprain, Out, full strength in about 4 weeks. Matthew Morrell, FL - Strained Quadriceps Muscle, Probable, full strength in about 3 weeks. Bert Ellis, LDT - Broken Clavicle, Doubtful, full strength in about 4 weeks. ---------- Guess I shouldn't have cut that FB...
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04-19-2003, 08:26 AM
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Injuries: Howard Johnston, RDT - Sprained Knee, Questionable, full strength in about 3 weeks. Riddick Finley, RDE - Stress Fracture in the Foot, Out, full strength in about 6 weeks. Duane Crawford, RB - Severe Hamstring Pull, Probable, full strength in about 2 weeks. Ethan Brock, FB - Severe Wrist Sprain, Doubtful, full strength in about 3 weeks. Matthew Morrell, FL - Strained Quadriceps Muscle, Probable, full strength in about 2 weeks. Bert Ellis, LDT - Broken Clavicle, Questionable, full strength in about 3 weeks. -------- The train keeps on "Rolling"...
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04-19-2003, 08:30 AM
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Injuries: Howard Johnston, RDT - Sprained Knee, Questionable, full strength in about 2 weeks. Riddick Finley, RDE - Stress Fracture in the Foot, Out, full strength in about 5 weeks. Duane Crawford, RB - Severe Hamstring Pull, Probable, full strength in about 1 week. Ethan Brock, FB - Severe Wrist Sprain, Questionable, full strength in about 2 weeks. Matthew Morrell, FL - Strained Quadriceps Muscle, Probable, full strength in about 1 week. Blaine Houston, LCB - Broken Toe, Questionable, full strength in about 3 weeks. Cole Murray, K - Strained Quadriceps Muscle, Probable, full strength in about 4 weeks. Bert Ellis, LDT - Broken Clavicle, Questionable, full strength in about 2 weeks. ----- There we have it... nothing has stopped us so far..
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04-19-2003, 08:32 AM
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I don't cuss in this forum much..
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04-19-2003, 08:34 AM
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04-19-2003, 10:38 AM
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There was talk a little earlier about some financial house rules, which seems to make more sense than something arbirtrary like 'no 1st round picks'. The Rollers lost $59m last season, if I recall, so that should send up some type of hypothetical red flag.
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04-19-2003, 11:28 AM
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hypothetical only though. Would this team really be losing 59 million a year with some of the lowest ticket prices? We're a playoff lock, and we've been to the super bowl 3 times in 5 years. I think we should consider setting a lower salary cap for ourselves.
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04-19-2003, 03:09 PM
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I think setting a lower cap for the team would be unrealistic. The only thing perhaps to key on is contract extensions, or perhaps limiting the amount of bonuses (which I recall, led in part to the large loss). In other words, this would perhaps lead to having to give up good players and be more selective of the second-tier players (re: cheaper). Since you have the best players at least 4 positions, perhaps it would be more interesting to see if you have the same results with not having the best players. This would rely more on finding the gems among the rough, thus even more critical decision making. Just some thoughts.
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04-19-2003, 07:22 PM
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Is there a prcatical difference between what you two guys are saying?
Thing is, Anrhydeddu, if we limited our contracts with bonuses, we'd also be limiting the one thing that has made this challenging at all - our self-imposed requirements that we re-sign many popular players. Reducing what we pay in bonuses means fewer fat contracts, and on balance I think those ave hurt us, not helped us. Maybe we need to further reign in our activitiy in the free agent market? |
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04-19-2003, 08:33 PM
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But would have signed some those guys (the good ones, not the forced 'fan favorite' ones) if you had not offered large bonuses? I don't know, maybe perhaps you can look at expanding the 'fan favorites' rule to keep more players that you would not have kept otherwise? I think the intent in my thinking is to not to have so many good players in key positions but work harder at winning with little less quality.
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04-19-2003, 09:04 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Annapolis, Md
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I see your point, A, which is why I initially question whether what you're saying and a "reduced salary cap" are really that different.
You're right - we coudl adopt rules that make it practically impossible ever to re-sign our own players... maybe something along those lines would be more difficult. Perhaps not more interesting, but it certainly could be more difficult. I'll stew on my "other" direction... I'm starting to think that we're getting away with too much passable fill-in talent by way of free agency, and that restricting that is the key thing to do. |
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04-20-2003, 12:57 AM
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good house rule may be to only allow bonus money to be no greater than last years profits(which i think should be in the game anyway) so if your team lost money you have 0 dollars in bonus money to give out, it would give meaning to the bottom line
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04-20-2003, 09:34 AM
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Here's what I was thinking about..
We have an obstacle coming up in 2002... Maybe we play it out until the 2002 draft.. oil our wheels, learn what we can.. then we start from scratch in an earlier year with totally revamped house rules.. Then I was thinking if we want a REAL challenge, we play in one of QS's famous Island of Misfit Toys dynasties or something similar... where we have zero draft picks... This, I feel, would add an ENORMOUS challenge... We would still have a relatively heavy critical thinking process (that's the important part here, right?) in which we decide which URFAs to take, etc. Perhaps we increase the critical thinking by having relatively un-hindered FA rules? Perhaps the same that we have now which basically allow us to pursue anyone, as long as it is in the first round. When you look at our team, our huge advantage appears to be in the draft, the ability to spot budding talent, etc. This would force us to pay people for what they are worth once they break out.. If we went with that concept, it wouldn't be a full Island of Misfit Toys (I believe QS cannot have anyone ever drafted on those squads?), but it would still be much more of a challenge.. or hell, if people are willing (i am) we could do a full blown misfit toys, but I worry that it may take out too much critical thinking by eliminating too many players from our grasp..
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04-20-2003, 11:16 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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I think that if we're looking for a complete reinvention of the concept, that the best thing to do is to simply start up another career.
I'm happy with this one, and feel some attachment to the players we have. I'd support cominng up with something different to make it harder... but I don't think we completely throw out the baby here. |
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04-20-2003, 11:38 AM
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If a new group think dynasty is started- I think wades idea of an 'Island of Misfit Toys' would be a good house rule to use. Also, if a new group think is started I would like to be involved again, since I kinda dropped out of this one when I got pretty busy with school and stuff.
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04-20-2003, 02:06 PM
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I also don't feel like tossing this dynasty completely. I think we should seriously consider a special house rule regarding the 2002 draft though, otherwise we'll be able to stock up while the computer teams continute to wander aimlessly throught the offseason.
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04-20-2003, 02:11 PM
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dola,
If we're going to introduce more house rules I think there are still realistic areas we can introduce them. I think we should consider rules regarding player happiness levels (for instance, having to get rid of angry or livid players) and team chemistry/leadership (does anyone even pay attention to this?). I know regarding chemistry or leadership we've cut (or opted not to make an offer to) players who were considered the group leader at their area. Unless we all completely hate the way the game handles player happiness, chemistry, and leadership, I think these are the areas we should look to expand into.
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04-20-2003, 07:22 PM
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04-20-2003, 11:32 PM
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ok....I just downloaded the season end file from every season....and the original file...but when I try to look at players stats it says it is unable to load past season data, saved game file is missing. Do I need to also download the first files of the offseason?
Another quick question- Did we trade WR Kenny McAllister, was he cut, or just a FA loss? Last edited by Doug5984 : 04-20-2003 at 11:35 PM. |
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04-21-2003, 06:30 AM
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Location: Fairfax, VA
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Of the suggestions brought up so far, I like the idea of getting rid of "unhappy" players. That would cut into our depth a little.
The bigger problem is the computer teams just don't make good decisions and there are no house rules we can apply to fix that. The computer seems to overpay for lesser talent and completely misses the cheap quality guys that we can sweep in and pickup for minsal contracts. |
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04-21-2003, 06:51 AM
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Yes, Doug - I think the first files of each season will have the pas year data. There was a complete re-post at the start, maybe two seasons ago? Check the link back to the start of last season, perhaps. Then get the file that started this year, and get the annual file out of that set. You shoudl be good to go. As for McAlister, I think we just let him walk... we've got very popular wideouts, and had little choice in the matter. We have to keep the guys who are popular. |
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04-21-2003, 09:26 AM
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Ok, maybe scrapping things and starting over is a bit drastic
 ..Without being that drastic, I think using the "fluff" parts of FOF may be the way around this still... Perhaps managing conflicts, unhappy players, etc.. I don't think we should have to cut unhappy players or anything, I thnk it should be a matter of we cannot re-sign players that are unhappy.. we of course then have to decide if a fan favorite or unhappy takes precidence, but that might be a nice, non-drastic place to start...
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04-21-2003, 09:39 AM
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adding onto that a little- maybe we could randomly choose a player or 2 each offseason that are 'unhappy' or have a team conflict and we would have to trade or cut them....much like the Saints traded Kyle Turley because he was unhappy, and traded Willie Roaf last offseason because he was causing a team conflict....I am not sure this would have the desired effect since it would most likely be getting rid of a backup who does not get very much playing time. Another possible idea is (I think Bucc...errr....Anrhydeddu might have mentioned this before) having random events occur to our team that cause players to get suspended for a game, cut mid season or something to that effect. We could somehow introduce random events into the game....for example one random event could be a player getting a DUI and being suspended 1 game....just some ideas.... |
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04-21-2003, 10:41 AM
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The idea of randomness was brought up when we first started, and we pretty much decided that was just not something we wanted.. when we have to pull outside randomness through dice or whatever, it just develops a different game than what we are looking for here..
But, we could address this again.. I personally would rather find other ways to deal with the "problem"... Another possibility would be that we could only sign URFA's and our players in free agency, but that may be too drastic..
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04-21-2003, 10:45 AM
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Perhaps we should make a rule that we can only draft and sign fan favorites.
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Hah...
I think we're definately showing the flaws in the game though.. we're at a point where it is very difficult to make rules that make it a challenge, without completely removing the fun of having a team... This is where the way we did the last group think would have been great, too bad it is way too hard to implement.. i wish there was a "fog of war" function for this that would completely remove the ratings from a player except perhaps the overall ratings in the draft...
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04-21-2003, 11:12 AM
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I think maybe the easiest way to look at this is to figure out how you were able to get the great players and depth and focus on making it harder to do so without sacrificing the decision making process. The AI in FOF4 will suck at overpaying mediocre talent and ignore great bargains. The only way around that is to have you play at the level of the AI. Your fan favorite rule is an example of overpaying for bad talent so perhaps just continue along that line of thinking.
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04-21-2003, 11:55 AM
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Little Rock (12-0)(-19) at Memphis (1-11)
The scary thing is these are the games we usually lose. We don't have a great history in games on the road that we were heavily favored in. Code:
Injuries Howard Johnston, RDT - Sprained Knee, Questionable, full strength in about 2 weeks. Riddick Finley, RDE - Stress Fracture in the Foot, Out, full strength in about 4 weeks. Ethan Brock, FB - Severe Wrist Sprain, Probable, full strength in about 1 week. Matthew Morrell, FL - Strained Quadriceps Muscle, Questionable, full strength in about 3 weeks. Blaine Houston, LCB - Broken Toe, Probable, full strength in about 2 weeks. Cole Murray, K - Strained Quadriceps Muscle, Probable, full strength in about 3 weeks. Adrian Brewer, RDE - Bruised Heel, Probable, full strength in about 1 week. Bert Ellis, LDT - Broken Clavicle, Probable, full strength in about 1 week. Of course Memphis wasn't 1-11 by mistake. 
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Ouch. Morrell took a big hit with this latest injury.
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04-21-2003, 12:15 PM
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Given Morrell's injury and the fact that we have already clinched a 1st round bye and we are one win away from clinching home field throughout. DO we want to start sitting people down the stretch?
For example do we want to try and get Cog's numbers up so he may get some recognition this season or do we want to play ti safe and rest him? He is having an unreal year so I hate to sit him, but at the same time can we risk him going down? Also at the very least I would suggest we sit either Lucas or Biggs. That way if one of them goes downw e have the other for the playoffs. Just some things to think about. I will wait for some responses before I continue with the games.
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Heh no one has an opinion on whether or not to play some of these guys?
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Injuries Howard Johnston, RDT - Sprained Knee, Questionable, full strength in about 3 weeks. Riddick Finley, RDE - Stress Fracture in the Foot, Out, full strength in about 3 weeks. Otis Coghill, QB - Deep Thigh Bruise, Probable, full strength in about 2 weeks. Matthew Morrell, FL - Strained Quadriceps Muscle, Probable, full strength in about 2 weeks. Blaine Houston, LCB - Broken Toe, Probable, full strength in about 2 weeks. Cole Murray, K - Strained Quadriceps Muscle, Probable, full strength in about 2 weeks.
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04-21-2003, 04:42 PM
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Thou shall not press thy luck.
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04-21-2003, 04:55 PM
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Well now I am really not sure what to do because Coghill was slightly injured in the last game.
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04-21-2003, 05:27 PM
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The only goal is to win the Super Bowl.
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Let Cascini start, he's a solid backup and we have nothing to gain besides stats... leave the RBs in merely because at this point, if we sit one, we should sit the other.. so might as well play them both, it's doubtful they'll both get hurt..
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04-21-2003, 06:58 PM
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You know what's interesting is that isn't my only goal. Or should say that isn't what I get the most enjoyment out of with these games. The stats are what really drive my enjoyment in these games. If this were one of my own league I garauntee Cog would play. But since it's not only not just my team, but not even my side of the ball I didn't want to make the call either way. I forgot to upload the files so the games will have to wait until I get back to work in the morning. |
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Location: North Carolina
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if I were running my own game I'd be going all-out for the perfect season. But having said that I think we should at least sit Cog. The backup has played quite well and the game is really meaningless. I don't know about sitting tons of people though.
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04-22-2003, 08:09 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Annapolis, Md
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I think we shoudl sit Cog for the last two games. Despit the label on the injury, we know that in FOF guys playing hurt have an increased chance of suffering more severe injuries. We don't want to go 16-0 at the cost of losing Coghill for the postseason.
As much as I'd love to see a perfect season, I want to win it all again even more. A lot more. I say sit Coghill - it's not like Cascini has been a stiff for us, anyway - he's been pretty solid. And we have him surrounded with solid talent across the board. 16-0 is still very realistic. |
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04-22-2003, 08:45 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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Play Cog!!!
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04-22-2003, 08:47 AM
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Pro Rookie
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Death Valley (9-5) at Little Rock (14-0)(-8)
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Injuries Howard Johnston, RDT - Sprained Knee, Questionable, full strength in about 2 weeks. Riddick Finley, RDE - Stress Fracture in the Foot, Questionable, full strength in about 2 weeks. Otis Coghill, QB - Deep Thigh Bruise, Probable, full strength in about 1 week. Ben Howen, LDE - Pulled Groin, Doubtful, full strength in about 3 weeks. Matthew Morrell, FL - Strained Quadriceps Muscle, Probable, full strength in about 1 week. Blaine Houston, LCB - Broken Toe, Probable, full strength in about 1 week. Cole Murray, K - Strained Quadriceps Muscle, Probable, full strength in about 1 week.
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04-22-2003, 08:53 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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Little Rock (15-0)(-10) at Pensacola (5-10)
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Injuries Howard Johnston, RDT - Sprained Knee, Probable, full strength in about 1 week. Riddick Finley, RDE - Stress Fracture in the Foot, Probable, full strength in about 1 week. Ben Howen, LDE - Pulled Groin, Doubtful, full strength in about 3 weeks.
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