That Cleveland B**** (DT's Thread)

[oliegirl]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i'd put a pic up in here, but not one like that...

I wanna see what the bitch looks like...and besides, think of the great fun Ant could have photoshopping it...then you could plaster those very incriminating shots of her all over the net!

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by oliegirl

I wanna see what the bitch looks like...and besides, think of the great fun Ant could have photoshopping it...then you could plaster those very incriminating shots of her all over the net!

I already have incriminating photos if I wanted to do that. But i'm taking a bit more of a high-road than that.

[oliegirl]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I already have incriminating photos if I wanted to do that. But i'm taking a bit more of a high-road than that.

Sigh. Damn you and your moral highground!

Just kidding...but I would like to see what she looks like...we'd talked about her before on IM so I'm curious...

[DaddyTorgo]

here's a picture (and yes I have many)

[ice4277]

Is it too soon for an "I'd hit it"?

[DaddyTorgo]

no - and those aren't even the "good" pics

oh - and guess who wants to call and talk? *shrugs*

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by ice4277

Is it too soon for an "I'd hit it"?

I should just post the sexier (non-nude) ones and let everyone go all wild on em. Maybe one day when i'm feeling really angry.

[Chief Rum]

Did anyone else get the "You are the 999,999th visitor" ad when clicking on the picture link? I thought it was rather apropos flashing as it was over her image.

(And, DT, I say that fully to acknowledge again to you that this was her problem, and you shouldn't spent a moment of life worrying about it).

[Lorena]

DT, my friend, you're wasting valuable time and energy on someone who is so, so not worth it.

[DaddyTorgo]

time and energy no longer wasted -- and you're right DC -- absolutely not worth it.

Cold, heartless, lying, cheating, stuck-up, self-centered, racist bitch is prolly the best description. which really means there was never a way it could have worked out in the long-term, and I am WAY too good for her.

Now wait -- who wants the dirty pix?? send PM's with email addresses

[Izulde]

I think I saw her in a moneytalks vid now that I think about it.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Izulde

I think I saw her in a moneytalks vid now that I think about it.

LOL

[DaddyTorgo]

lol - choice exchange from the insult-fest that was last night (so i don't forget it)

her: your head is so big, you need to realize you're no better than anyone else!
me: better than you
her: better than me? haha...you live in your parents basement
me: at least I'm a good person and not a lying cheating bitch

[Lorena]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

time and energy no longer wasted -- and you're right DC -- absolutely not worth it.

Cold, heartless, lying, cheating, stuck-up, self-centered, racist bitch is prolly the best description. which really means there was never a way it could have worked out in the long-term, and I am WAY too good for her.

Now wait -- who wants the dirty pix?? send PM's with email addresses

You found your balls, good man DT.

If she calls, make sure you grab 'em so they don't fall off again.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

You found your balls, good man DT.

If she calls, make sure you grab 'em so they don't fall off again.

she won't. it's done and over with. i want nothing to do with her ever again, and i wish her nothing but the worst in life.

and to be clear, as i said to her - it's not because she decided she didn't love me. it's because she decided that in like january and instead of telling me strung me along for 6 months emotionally and lied to me while she was screwing around online.

had she not done that (or even had she admitted that that was wrong and that she was hugely disrespectful for doing that) maybe we could at least be civil. but she couldn't even do that...so fuck her

[Flasch186]

PM sent for the nastiest dirtiest pics you have

[DaddyTorgo]

lol

[DaddyTorgo]

oh yay! guess who emailed me, then sent me a bunch of offline msgs on yahoo, then caught me online, then called me just now?

mmhmm!

[Neuqua]

Wait, did Flasch get pictures?

[JeeberD]

I like pictures!

[DaddyTorgo]

aaaaah - I still have to mail out pictures - was too hard to look at them there for a bit...even if it would be to degrade her.

anyways - gist of conversation:

"When you told me to go fuck myself...wow that really opened my eyes to what a bitch I was and I realized life's not about what you have, it's about who you are."

"Question I've been dying to ask - are you seeing anyone?"

"Everyone, even my mom, says I made a huge mistake."

"You make me feel like a schoolgirl...like here's this boy who used to love me...what do I say...how does he feel now?"

"I'm coming to Boston at the end of August for a few days. Thought maybe we could at least meet."

note: those weren't all necessarily in that order or one after the other. There was a lot of other random junk thrown in...aka "I missed you during baseball season," etc.

My head says to tell her to go away - but (you know how the rest of the line will go). Not that I'm necessarily willing to forgive and forget, but I'm not a cold-hearted person, I can't just be like "fuck off and die."

My spidey-sense (which admittedly sucks, and is very biased) is telling me that she's playing some kind of "be nice to him for a couple weeks, talk to him, and then when I come to boston see him and tell him what an idiot I was and ask for another chance" kind of angle. And if that's the case, she will have to do all the work to get it to that point, and I still don't know how I'd react honestly. To RendeR's point as I'm IMing with him "fuck what your head says. Love is a feeling. Your heart deals with feeling. Go with what your heart tells you." And right now my heart is...i dunno...topsy-turvy.

--not that i'm saying i'd give it at all, just that i'm trying to lay out what I think might possibly be going on.

[Neuqua]

I'll offer advice after i see what she looks like.

[DeToxRox]

Get a steak and a BJ and send her on her way. It's the American way.

[DaddyTorgo]

there was a pic higher up in the thread.

[DaddyTorgo]

oh but i'll go into the folder on my laptop here and upload another one to imageshack I suppose.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

here's a picture (and yes I have many)

For Neuq

[DaddyTorgo]

[Neuqua]

Serious answer is that you can't let yourself get vulnerable to this girl again. I am telling you straight from my own experience. And sadly, I am from the perspective of your ex.

She probably just feels a void in a part of her life where she misses knowing someone out there is caring and thinking about her. Her not getting that attention now has made her attempt to come back into your life.

Don't do it man.

[DeToxRox]

She has really skinny thighs .. or is it just me?

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Neuqua

Serious answer is that you can't let yourself get vulnerable to this girl again. I am telling you straight from my own experience. And sadly, I am from the perspective of your ex.

She probably just feels a void in a part of her life where she misses knowing someone out there is caring and thinking about her. Her not getting that attention now has made her attempt to come back into your life.

Don't do it man.

she always was quite the me-me type of person. I have strong suspiscions that you are correct sir. I think I can hold myself back from being vulnerable though.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I have been pwned, I tell ya. Pwned.

All said, DT, this is probably a soul searching moment. I don't recall (haven't gone back into the thread), but she wasn't faithful, right? That's really the clincher for me.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

She has really skinny thighs .. or is it just me?

maybe the light or the angle? she is tiny though

[DeToxRox]

Those two girls look so different. Not calling DT a liar, but wow can people differ picture to picture.

[Neuqua]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

she always was quite the me-me type of person. I have strong suspiscions that you are correct sir. I think I can hold myself back from being vulnerable though.

Ultimately it is your call, and I am just some guy on a message board, but I am just trying to be honest. I was *that* guy at one point in my life and so I feel like I can relate to what kinds of emotions and motivation she might be having. All I know is, it does not really bode well for you.

Take it for what it is worth.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I have been pwned, I tell ya. Pwned.

All said, DT, this is probably a soul searching moment. I don't recall (haven't gone back into the thread), but she wasn't faithful, right? That's really the clincher for me.

well - there was the belief on my part that she wasn't yeah. And you know what, it's really the clincher for me too I've always said, time and time again. But...when push comes to shove, it's easier to talk the talk than walk the walk. And...I just dunno.

I mean, were it to ever go anywhere approaching anything, you bet your ass that I would be very upfront about how I intended to act and that she better not have a problem with that or she can walk out the door right now.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Those two girls look so different. Not calling DT a liar, but wow can people differ picture to picture.

could be year-to-year too. i've seen 100+ pictures though, in all situations, so unless it's some very involved trickery I feel decent about it.

[Izulde]

Take the ticket for a ride, then after you chug the old engine in her caboose, drop her off fastlike at the next depot.

You = WINNAH!

[DaddyTorgo]

lol well played izulde

[Drake]

Dude,

Don't get back on that train. She cheated once, and she'll likely cheat again. Even if she doesn't, you'll always be wondering if she's going to. The trust never comes back.

I found out two years ago that my wife had been cheating on me. Trying to keep my shit together for the kids has made this, without a doubt, the worst time in my entire life. I think about walking out the door every fucking day. Despite the fact that she's gotten on meds and her bipolar shit is now under control. Despite the fact that she's completely re-committed to the marriage. Despite the fact that she stopped being a complete idiot cunt.

I should have walked out the door the moment I caught her...but kids complicate things.

Point being: I'm on this train because I have to be for the time being. You don't want to buy a ticket of your own free will.

[DaddyTorgo]

wackadoo

she just spent an hour on the phone with me rambling about her new job and showing me pictures online of a house she's thinking of buying to fix up and flip...like we were in some kind of frigging time-warp. Messed-up. Wayy...wacko. At one point in the 10 sentences she got out of me in the hour, she asked what i'd been up to, told her I'd been out to visit my buddy in california and she goes "how is he? I was thinking about him, hoping he was doing okay?" (his life has been a bit of a mess). I was like "uhhh...wtf?"

allegedly she says she's coming to boston in a couple weeks - thinking at that point when we go out for a meal or whatever that i'll be like "look...wtf? is this you wanting another chance? cuz if so here's how it's going to be. Or is this you wanting to be friends? Because frankly I don't have enough time or social energy to keep up with the friends I do have, I don't need another that really doesn't offer anything unique and is frankly psychologically unhealthy for me to be friends with" kinda conversation. Seems like one that is best done...face-to-face sorta. And frankly, after all the time I've spent over the past year talking to her...I at least want to meet her, so if I am slamming the door on her and walking away, I have the satisfaction of doing it to her face, ya know?

So until then I'm just going to be...friendly but not overly-enthusiastic, and not put a lot of energy into it.

[JeeberD]

Dude, you're totally going to bang her. And then have your heart broken again...

[DaddyTorgo]

bang her? methinks we're quite a ways from that mr. Dmack.

[DaddyTorgo]

my heart can't be broken - it's already in a million pieces on the floor. and my walls are way the fuck up. And man are they strong. She ran into them head-on tonight, and she definitely noticed. she can't hurt me any worse than she already has. Because at this point, I really don't care one way or the other.

[Neuqua]

Wish you the best DT, though I am expecting a sad continuation of this thread in a few months

Hope you prove me wrong!

[flere-imsaho]

A friend of mine (a woman, actually an old friend of my wife's) recently broke up with her boyfriend. They had gotten along really well together and whatnot, but his family (parents or siblings, can't remember) were having issues he was having to deal with, and it was making them continuing a relationship very difficult (time available and emotional committment). So they agreed to break it off.

He said to her that he'd like to remain friends. She, however, said that no, she had and still has romantic feelings for him, not "friend" feelings and that while she'd remember him fondly and would be interested in getting back together if everything got sorted out, it wasn't going to be healthy for her to try and "remain friends" with all that entails.

That, folks, is how to break this shit off.

[Neon_Chaos]

Is it too late to PM my email?

But you know what you have to do, DT. You don't need us to tell it to you.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Step away from the woman, DT.

Why is it so hard just to cut her out of your life?

As for why it's hard: because in my 28 years, no one has ever felt about me the way that she felt about me (or even claimed to feel about me). It's tough to just give that up and walk away from it, knowing that it will likely be years before it happens again (if ever). I'm not Noop, rolling in the pussy over here.

hey I was doing just fine (relatively) going along thinking I'd never talk to her again. She's the one that jumped up and down over in the corner (figuratively speaking) to get my attention. Made it pretty damn difficult for me to ignore, because I'm not generally a mean person, so when she caught me online and then called my phone it wasn't like I could not answer the phone and just IM her and say "why are you calling me? leave me alone." -- I don't operate like that. Now you can argue that maybe I SHOULD, but I don't, I never have. And besides, like I said up above, I feel like at this point, I deserve the payoff of a face-to-face. Plus, if it goes down in the negative way, maybe that'll hurt her even more - like a fraction of how hurt I am. Probably not - I mean she'll probably just pickup some middle-aged dude at the bar and screw him in her hotel room, but wtf-ever.

So I'll go out to coffee or dinner with her while she's here in town, and we can sit and talk. I see that conversation going down two-three potential paths, and I'm going to lay them out here, along with my reactions, so i don't forget them.

We sit down, start talking. I bust out something along the lines of "okay, so what's the deal? What do you want out of me?" (paraphrase)

1) "I just want to be friends, have you as a part of my life."

My response (along the lines of what Flasch posted): "I don't have the time or the social energy for the friends that I have already, and moreover I don't really view that as emotionally healthy for me. And frankly it's not fair to me either. It's nice for you that hurting me has led to you making changes in your life, but I won't be around to share in them. Apparently you didn't get the message before, so let me reiterate: I don't anticipate talking to you ever again, and I'm happy with that. Goodbye."

*get up, toss a bill on the table, and leave without looking back*

2) "Oh I want a second chance."

My response: "Well then tell me what has changed. What's so different this time? And come clean about what went on. And you have to understand where I'm at now as far as things."

And then I can make my decision based on the particulars of that conversation - whether anything has indeed changed, whether she admits she did anything wrong, etc.

And then I either go with my response to #1 or with some sort of tentative-okay.

Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I think that it will go to #1, and the more I think that that is the more emotionally-healthy of the choices for me, but then again when the heart gets involved sometimes the emotionally-healthy thing doesn't end up happening.

[Neon_Chaos]

"What did the five fingers say to the face?"

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Is it too late to PM my email?

go for it

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

DT:

You are conceding control of your emotions to her.

I disagree. I'm the one who walked away and didn't look back. She's the one who bombarded me (multiple times - starting 3 weeks later, and then again this week) until I talked to her. That gives me the power, because I'm not the one who "needs" her. I'm not the one who went to her and said "blah blah blah." She's the one who came to me and said "things have changed." And I'm perfectly content to walk away at any point - I'm not emotionally invested again right now, and even if I were to say yes (which is in doubt) I wouldn't get myself emotionally-invested completely again for quite some time. My emotional walls are quite sturdy, and she's clearly on the outside looking in - the question is more about whether to let her into the space between the outer wall and the first of multiple inner-walls.