NFL Week 9 - Page 4

Cringer · 11-04-2007, 04:59 PM

I can't believe I am hearing people cry 'fix' about the Colts-Pats refs already. Give me a break.

Jas_lov · 11-04-2007, 05:00 PM

INT Harrison! Pats have it at the 30!

st.cronin · 11-04-2007, 05:01 PM

Great pass from Manning to Harrison.

Edit: Wait, that's the wrong Harrison! What was Peyton thinking????!!!

DeToxRox · 11-04-2007, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Great pass from Manning to Harrison.

Well played.

molson · 11-04-2007, 05:07 PM

Nobody's going to remember that blown no-call, but that was a huge, huge spot.

The officiating is getting tiring.

dime · 11-04-2007, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

Nobody's going to remember that blown no-call, but that was a huge, huge spot.

The officiating is getting tiring.

I predict that if new england loses, no one will be allowed to forget it.

molson · 11-04-2007, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cringer

I can't believe I am hearing people cry 'fix' about the Colts-Pats refs already. Give me a break.

They're not being serious.

Young Drachma · 11-04-2007, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

LMAO 109 yard missed fg return for SD hahahahaha

I swore I was watching a CFL game when I saw that. Good stuff.

Desnudo · 11-04-2007, 05:12 PM

Officiating is poor, but the Pats are taking some dumb penalties.

Jas_lov · 11-04-2007, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

Officiating is poor, but the Pats are taking some dumb penalties.

And the refs didn't stop them from tackling Joe Addai right before the half. Nice catch by Moss.

twothree · 11-04-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

It'll be nice to see the Packers-Lions game on Thanksgiving actually mean something this year! I can't wait!

Should be a good early game, I am also looking forward to it this year.

dime · 11-04-2007, 05:22 PM

who do the cowboys play on thanksgiving?

JeeberD · 11-04-2007, 05:23 PM

J-E-T-S JETSJETSJETS

Jas_lov · 11-04-2007, 05:28 PM

So close...

dime · 11-04-2007, 05:30 PM

offense has not looked real in sync, wonder if missing harrison is that much of an impact?

Racer · 11-04-2007, 05:32 PM

I would saying missing Tony Ugoh is a bigger issue for the Colts then missing Harrison

molson · 11-04-2007, 05:33 PM

It's felt like blowout for 3 quarters

Jas_lov · 11-04-2007, 05:33 PM

Nice INT.

KWhit · 11-04-2007, 05:33 PM

Holy crap, what a catch!

molson · 11-04-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

Officiating is poor, but the Pats are taking some dumb penalties.

Yup (again)

dime · 11-04-2007, 05:35 PM

pats racking up some unsportsmanlike/personal foul penalties in this game...

Jas_lov · 11-04-2007, 05:35 PM

I'm glad I started Jamal Lewis today! 18 rushes for 32 yards, 3 TDs!

DeToxRox · 11-04-2007, 05:37 PM

It's funny but I have spent more time watching Browns/Seahawks. It's just been a fun game to watch.

sterlingice · 11-04-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

And the refs didn't stop them from tackling Joe Addai right before the half. Nice catch by Moss.

Not speaking specifically to this game, but this line of reasoning is just wrong and lame platitudes for the Jim Romes of the world. Yes, the refs aren't responsible for a team not playing a perfect game but neither team plays a perfect game so it's not a fair standard. The Colts didn't sign up to play the Pats and the refs today and the Pats didn't sign up to play the Colts and the refs today. It should be even and, yes, if the refs cost a team a game, they share some of the blame.

SI

Jas_lov · 11-04-2007, 05:42 PM

The issue is if the refs cost the Pats the game. It doesn't appear that is the case because Addai is ripping them up! Sure they got that one pass interference call wrong, but other than that the Colts have been moving the ball pretty well and have been getting good pressure on Brady and have forced him to throw 2 INTs. The refs are not the reason the Pats are going to lose this game.

molson · 11-04-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

The issue is if the refs cost the Pats the game. It doesn't appear that is the case because Addai is ripping them up! Sure they got that one pass interference call wrong, but other than that the Colts have been moving the ball pretty well and have been getting good pressure on Brady and have forced him to throw 2 INTs. The refs are not the reason the Pats are going to lose this game.

I think you missed his point. The Colts are clearly outplaying the Patriots. He was responding to the "the refs didn't X" line, independent of this game.

Neuqua · 11-04-2007, 05:47 PM

Oooh, almost intercepted again.

dime · 11-04-2007, 05:47 PM

why are they trying to use moss over the middle? he wants no part of it. where's troy brown?

Eaglesfan27 · 11-04-2007, 05:47 PM

Randy freaking Moss. This game isn't over yet.

sterlingice · 11-04-2007, 05:49 PM

I don't care who wins but it's about time, Brady. My fantasy team is addicted to your 40ppg and you're only up to 13. It's time to get back on track.

SI

dime · 11-04-2007, 05:49 PM

watching that play, dante culpepper shed a single, lonely tear.

Neuqua · 11-04-2007, 05:51 PM

It's funny that Moss was finally called for offensive pass interference, and it was on a play where I don't think he even commited the penalty.

molson · 11-04-2007, 05:52 PM

The refs are just making shit up now.

KWhit · 11-04-2007, 05:52 PM

Horrible call.

molson · 11-04-2007, 05:53 PM

Penalized yards in the game:

Patriots: 141
Colts: 10

Desnudo · 11-04-2007, 05:55 PM

Where's Ed Hochuli when you need him?

sterlingice · 11-04-2007, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

The issue is if the refs cost the Pats the game. It doesn't appear that is the case because Addai is ripping them up! Sure they got that one pass interference call wrong, but other than that the Colts have been moving the ball pretty well and have been getting good pressure on Brady and have forced him to throw 2 INTs. The refs are not the reason the Pats are going to lose this game.

As a sidebar, I bet I could change the outcome of at least 50% of all NFL games if you gave me just 3 plays I could call penalties on for the sole purpose of bending the game to my will. Little innocuous stuff like a pass interference or holding that could be called on most plays.

Whoops, there goes your big game changing fifty yard TD run because we called holding on some random player away from the ball. Dang, just had made a crucial stop in the second half but we're going to call offsides or defensive holding to keep a drive alive. That sort of thing really does change the course of the game.

SI

bhlloy · 11-04-2007, 05:56 PM

2nd worse penalty ever after the Todd Heap one earlier in the year.

Desnudo · 11-04-2007, 05:57 PM

I don't think it's all the refs, just that guy in the left corner. I'd like to see him explain the calls on Hobbs and Moss where he points out exactly what made him throw the flags.

Jas_lov · 11-04-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

As a sidebar, I bet I could change the outcome of at least 50% of all NFL games if you gave me just 3 plays I could call penalties on for the sole purpose of bending the game to my will. Little innocuous stuff like a pass interference or holding that could be called on most plays.

Whoops, there goes your big game changing fifty yard TD run because we called holding on some random player away from the ball. Dang, just had made a crucial stop in the second half but we're going to call offsides or defensive holding to keep a drive alive. That sort of thing really does change the course of the game.

SI

I agree, but what's your point and how does it apply to this game?

molson · 11-04-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

As a sidebar, I bet I could change the outcome of at least 50% of all NFL games if you gave me just 3 plays I could call penalties on for the sole purpose of bending the game to my will. Little innocuous stuff like a pass interference or holding that could be called on most plays.

Whoops, there goes your big game changing fifty yard TD run because we called holding on some random player away from the ball. Dang, just had made a crucial stop in the second half but we're going to call offsides or defensive holding to keep a drive alive. That sort of thing really does change the course of the game.

SI

I think there's an even bigger impact (and a much more subtle one), when you're talking about non-calls.

Pats have a 3rd and 20, and Faulk is clearly interfered with. We'll never know what would have happened - maybe they score a TD, maybe they throw the next pass for a interception going for a TD the other way.

k0ruptr · 11-04-2007, 06:01 PM

Colts shouldn't get conservative. Throw the ball and attack

molson · 11-04-2007, 06:02 PM

Do fans really have to be "smart" to know to be more quiet when their team has the ball (in a dome)?

RendeR · 11-04-2007, 06:02 PM

I went to the Bills/Bengals game and honestly, TV makes everyone look a LOT better than they are. The Bengals defense is the slowest ugliest thing under creation.

I've been under the assumption that they just vcan't get a scheme that works, but with these guys, hell...the UNIVERSITY of Buffalo could beat them.

molson · 11-04-2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

Colts shouldn't get conservative. Throw the ball and attack

Agreed. This "shortening the game" crap they were doing in the 1st half is the only reason the Pats are still in this thing.

sterlingice · 11-04-2007, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

I think there's an even bigger impact (and a much more subtle one), when you're talking about non-calls.

Pats have a 3rd and 20, and Faulk is clearly interfered with. We'll never know what would have happened - maybe they score a TD, maybe they throw the next pass for a interception going for a TD the other way.

Great point. Also true.

SI

hoopsguy · 11-04-2007, 06:05 PM

Man, the Dolphins could use a return guy like this Welker ...

k0ruptr · 11-04-2007, 06:05 PM

now its looking like a pats comeback is for sure. Fuck.

Desnudo · 11-04-2007, 06:05 PM

I don't know how Welker finds those holes.

sterlingice · 11-04-2007, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

I agree, but what's your point and how does it apply to this game?

Well, it was meant as a sidebar, as it says in the post. We've got a bunch of people talking football so it was just something to throw out there.

SI

11-04-2007, 04:59 PM	#151
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11-04-2007, 05:01 PM	#153
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11-04-2007, 05:23 PM	#163
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11-04-2007, 05:47 PM	#177
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11-04-2007, 05:47 PM	#179
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11-04-2007, 05:00 PM	#152
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	INT Harrison! Pats have it at the 30!

11-04-2007, 05:07 PM	#155
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Nobody's going to remember that blown no-call, but that was a huge, huge spot. The officiating is getting tiring.

11-04-2007, 05:12 PM	#159
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Officiating is poor, but the Pats are taking some dumb penalties.

11-04-2007, 05:22 PM	#162
dime High School JV Join Date: Sep 2006	who do the cowboys play on thanksgiving?

11-04-2007, 05:28 PM	#164
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	So close...

11-04-2007, 05:30 PM	#165
dime High School JV Join Date: Sep 2006	offense has not looked real in sync, wonder if missing harrison is that much of an impact?

11-04-2007, 05:32 PM	#166
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	I would saying missing Tony Ugoh is a bigger issue for the Colts then missing Harrison

11-04-2007, 05:33 PM	#167
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	It's felt like blowout for 3 quarters

11-04-2007, 05:33 PM	#168
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Nice INT.

11-04-2007, 05:33 PM	#169
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Holy crap, what a catch!

11-04-2007, 05:35 PM	#171
dime High School JV Join Date: Sep 2006	pats racking up some unsportsmanlike/personal foul penalties in this game...

11-04-2007, 05:35 PM	#172
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	I'm glad I started Jamal Lewis today! 18 rushes for 32 yards, 3 TDs!

11-04-2007, 05:37 PM	#173
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	It's funny but I have spent more time watching Browns/Seahawks. It's just been a fun game to watch.

11-04-2007, 05:42 PM	#175
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	The issue is if the refs cost the Pats the game. It doesn't appear that is the case because Addai is ripping them up! Sure they got that one pass interference call wrong, but other than that the Colts have been moving the ball pretty well and have been getting good pressure on Brady and have forced him to throw 2 INTs. The refs are not the reason the Pats are going to lose this game.

11-04-2007, 05:47 PM	#178
dime High School JV Join Date: Sep 2006	why are they trying to use moss over the middle? he wants no part of it. where's troy brown?

11-04-2007, 05:49 PM	#180
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11-04-2007, 05:49 PM	#181
dime High School JV Join Date: Sep 2006	watching that play, dante culpepper shed a single, lonely tear.

11-04-2007, 05:51 PM	#182
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	It's funny that Moss was finally called for offensive pass interference, and it was on a play where I don't think he even commited the penalty. __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

11-04-2007, 05:52 PM	#183
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	The refs are just making shit up now.

11-04-2007, 05:52 PM	#184
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Horrible call.

11-04-2007, 05:53 PM	#185
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Penalized yards in the game: Patriots: 141 Colts: 10

11-04-2007, 05:55 PM	#186
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Where's Ed Hochuli when you need him?

11-04-2007, 05:56 PM	#188
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	2nd worse penalty ever after the Todd Heap one earlier in the year.

11-04-2007, 05:57 PM	#189
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	I don't think it's all the refs, just that guy in the left corner. I'd like to see him explain the calls on Hobbs and Moss where he points out exactly what made him throw the flags.

11-04-2007, 06:01 PM	#192
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11-04-2007, 06:02 PM	#193
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Do fans really have to be "smart" to know to be more quiet when their team has the ball (in a dome)? Last edited by molson : 11-04-2007 at 06:02 PM.

11-04-2007, 06:02 PM	#194
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11-04-2007, 06:05 PM	#197
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Man, the Dolphins could use a return guy like this Welker ...

11-04-2007, 06:05 PM	#198
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	now its looking like a pats comeback is for sure. Fuck. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

11-04-2007, 06:05 PM	#199
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	I don't know how Welker finds those holes.