The Office Season 4 - Page 4

samifan24 · 11-18-2007, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by markprior22

Wow...I feel like I'm really missing out on something. I feel like the show has totally jumped the shark this season. When the gang dressed in fake mustaches, etc, I thought they have obviously run out of ideas.

I agree that the entire premise of that episode was ridiculous. I find myself enjoying the show but I used to be really excited for the show on Thursdays but now I just TIVO it, hang out at a friend's house and watch it later when I get home.

Swaggs · 11-18-2007, 09:45 AM

The fake mustache episode was just off in a lot of different ways. It just never "felt" like a regular episode.

I really think the head writer, from week to week, makes a huge difference in the quality of the show. When Toby is the writer, the episodes are usually very good.

larrymcg421 · 11-18-2007, 10:11 AM

I agree that Paul Lieberstein (Toby) episodes are the best, but I can't agree with the criticism of the "fake mustache" episode. I thought that was pretty funny and less over the top than some of the other stuff Michael has done. I especially liked the "Finer Things Club" subplot.

What I really love about this season is how they've focused on developing the characters. The episode "Money" (written by Paul Lieberstein), with Michael in telemarketing and Jim/Pam at Dwight's motel, is one of the best they've ever done. Add to that the last two episodes which have very strongly developed Jim and Michael's characters, and I think they really had something going here. I hope the strike ends soon so we can get back to it.

Raiders Army · 11-18-2007, 12:11 PM

Yeah, Toby is a good writer. I think that Ryan is a pretty crappy writer (comparatively). Ryan makes Michael look like a one-dimensional ass instead of a three dimensional ass with a heart.

ISiddiqui · 11-18-2007, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Yeah, Toby is a good writer. I think that Ryan is a pretty crappy writer (comparatively). Ryan makes Michael look like a one-dimensional ass instead of a three dimensional ass with a heart.

Which is amusing, because that totally mirrors their character counterparts. Ryan is very narrow focused, one view type of character, while Toby tries to see more sides (as he keeps trying to open up and help out Michael, where Ryan has just rid himself of Michael when he moved up the ladder).

Pyser · 04-11-2008, 07:19 PM

no love for the episode last night?

i thought they packed a lot in to 30 minutes, laughed at a good number of things, despite how ridiculous it got.

glad its back.

Dunleavy · 04-11-2008, 07:58 PM

yeah they didn't waste half the show on a meaningless dead end sub plot which was nice for a change

Galaxy · 04-11-2008, 08:47 PM

I love the small plasma tv.

MikeVic · 04-11-2008, 09:07 PM

I didn't like the episode when Dwight wasn't there. I don't know what it was, I think just a bit too weird/crazy? Dwight getting there kind of changed it for me. I think that means Dwight is my fav.

GrantDawg · 04-12-2008, 10:23 AM

It was a great return episode. One of the best this season.

Eaglesfan27 · 04-12-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

no love for the episode last night?

i thought they packed a lot in to 30 minutes, laughed at a good number of things, despite how ridiculous it got.

glad its back.

I just got around to watching it this morning. I loved the episode, so many lol lines as well as a few great reactions. My favorite line was: "I don't care what they say about me, I just want to eat, which I realize is a lot to ask for at a dinner party."

I also loved the line about Mike and Jan playing a game about making their guests crazy and Jim saying "they are both winning."

GrantDawg · 04-12-2008, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I just got around to watching it this morning. I loved the episode, so many lol lines as well as a few great reactions. My favorite line was: "I don't care what they say about me, I just want to eat, which I realize is a lot to ask for at a dinner party."

I also loved the line about Mike and Jan playing a game about making their guests crazy and Jim saying "they are both winning."

And, was it jus me, or was Pam particularly hot tonight.

Toddzilla · 04-12-2008, 10:43 AM

"Awesome!"

Eaglesfan27 · 04-12-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

And, was it jus me, or was Pam particularly hot tonight.

I think she always look great, but yeah, she looked particularly hot in this episode. I think they let Jenna Fischer glam up Pam a bit for the party.

Swaggs · 04-12-2008, 11:48 AM

The tripod cracked me up.

At first I thought it was supposed to be subtle and was disappointed that Jan pointed it out, but they made up for it by panning to Michael's face, showing that he had left it out to show off.

Dr. Sak · 04-12-2008, 11:49 AM

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!!

ISiddiqui · 04-12-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

It was a great return episode. One of the best this season.

I completely agree. I was on the floor. The way Jan treated Michael, while utterly wrong, was very amusing (small bed at the end of the big bed, redecorating the entire condo, making him get a 20 in flat screen).

Raiders Army · 04-12-2008, 01:38 PM

Best part: The song Jan was listening to.
Worst part: 3 vasectomies and 2 reversals. I'm not sure that's physically possible.

mrsimperless · 04-12-2008, 01:48 PM

Yeah, that song and Jan's dancing to it were both absolutely perfect.

ISiddiqui · 04-12-2008, 03:52 PM

And everyone except Michael knew what that song was talking about. Pooor Michael

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Comey · 04-12-2008, 05:09 PM

I like what they're doing with the Jan character. The meltdown, with the realization of what she's thrown away and what she threw it away for, is a great contrast with the dominating, yet passive-aggressive, figure she portrays.

It seems quite complex for the last generation of sitcoms. Great, great character buildup.

watravaler · 04-12-2008, 07:11 PM

So, a spin-off has been confirmed? Just a matter of time before the careers of the emerging actors dead-end this show...

Galaxy · 04-12-2008, 09:51 PM

They are doing a great job in hiding Angela's pregnancy (I think she due at the end of next month).

Dr. Sak · 04-13-2008, 11:02 AM

Michael: Wow this wine has an oaky after birth..

Raiders Army · 04-13-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by watravaler

So, a spin-off has been confirmed? Just a matter of time before the careers of the emerging actors dead-end this show...

Yes for this Fall.

sachmo71 · 04-13-2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I think she always look great, but yeah, she looked particularly hot in this episode. I think they let Jenna Fischer glam up Pam a bit for the party.

My wife and I watched Walk Hard last night, and she kept commenting on how pretty Jenna was in that movie. Jenna has always struck me as "cute", but I can see how she could be hot.

CamEdwards · 04-13-2008, 12:29 PM

what's this news of a spin-off? any links or information about the casting?

ISiddiqui · 04-13-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sachmo71

My wife and I watched Walk Hard last night, and she kept commenting on how pretty Jenna was in that movie. Jenna has always struck me as "cute", but I can see how she could be hot.

Watch "Blades of Glory".

Comey · 04-13-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CamEdwards

what's this news of a spin-off? any links or information about the casting?

The information I've read (google "The Office spinoff") has either Dwight getting his own show, or introducing an entire new crew on The Office, and bringing them to the spin-off.

I'm not sure I have faith in the latter, since they've already done that with Jim going to Stamford. That may have been their best chance at a spinoff (since you could build around Jim. You can do that with Dwight too, but Jim, in my view, has the best chance at a show succeeding.), because they could've drawn Jim out, and the merger out more, or not even do the merger, and send Jim back to Scranton to be the regional-manager-to-be to succeed Michael. Then you could revisit the Pam situation.

But, that wad's been shot. I'm not sure I could see them go down that road once again.

samifan24 · 04-13-2008, 01:49 PM

I heard a rumor that the new show could feature Andy in a starring role.

larrymcg421 · 04-13-2008, 01:50 PM

They've said it definitely won't be Dwight, since his interaction with Michael and Jim is too integral to the show. The only rumor I've heard has been Andy, but I'm not even sure he'll be included.

My guess is that they just do a show about one of the other branches, and it only has minimal conections to the original.

Comey · 04-13-2008, 01:51 PM

I did forget to mention that the Dwight information was older (2007), while a new cast was on April 8th.

Raiders Army · 04-13-2008, 02:33 PM

Andy's the only one who could carry the show other than the big four (Michael, Jim, Dwight, Pam). Well, I could see Darryl from the warehouse carrying a show too.

Daimyo · 04-13-2008, 03:05 PM

Andy is the only expendable character on the show who could carry a new show IMO.

ISiddiqui · 04-13-2008, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

My guess is that they just do a show about one of the other branches, and it only has minimal conections to the original.

I was thinking they may be able to a show based on Karen's branch.

Daimyo · 04-13-2008, 03:15 PM

Maybe it could focus on corporate headquarters and Ryan?

Raiders Army · 04-13-2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I was thinking they may be able to a show based on Karen's branch.

I thought that too, but Rashida Jones is on another sitcom, Unhitched. It's on Fox though, so it could get cancelled.

ISiddiqui · 04-13-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I thought that too, but Rashida Jones is on another sitcom, Unhitched. It's on Fox though, so it could get cancelled.

LOL. It's funny because its true (has it been canceled yet?

No seriously, that show does suck ass).

ISiddiqui · 04-17-2008, 08:08 PM

"I want to be able to play catch with my kid before I get too old
... and to do that, I need to get laid"

LOL!!

Raiders Army · 04-17-2008, 09:35 PM

It took my a second, but Pam's landlady is the Home Ec teacher from Superbad.

ISiddiqui · 04-17-2008, 09:57 PM

I love how Michael makes the comment about her being an old lady on the bus and the landlady says how rude that is and Michael tells her that she ruined it, LOL!!

Though, did anyone notice that when Jim walked away from Pam's desk after saying he was serious about proposing, she had this scared look on her face? How long have they been dating? And getting a ring 1 week after they started dating? WTF Jim?!

Crim · 04-17-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

My guess is that they just do a show about one of the other branches, and it only has minimal conections to the original.

I hope they do The Office: Miami starring David Caruso. Because he's funny.

larrymcg421 · 04-17-2008, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I love how Michael makes the comment about her being an old lady on the bus and the landlady says how rude that is and Michael tells her that she ruined it, LOL!!

Though, did anyone notice that when Jim walked away from Pam's desk after saying he was serious about proposing, she had this scared look on her face? How long have they been dating? And getting a ring 1 week after they started dating? WTF Jim?!

I don't think she was scared. At first, she thinks he's kidding around like they always do, but doesn't realize he's serious until he walks away. To me, it seemed she was just a bit stunned by the revelation.

As for the ring, he got it a week after they were dating, but they'd been in love alot longer than that.

ISiddiqui · 04-17-2008, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

I don't think she was scared. At first, she thinks he's kidding around like they always do, but doesn't realize he's serious until he walks away. To me, it seemed she was just a bit stunned by the revelation.

As for the ring, he got it a week after they were dating, but they'd been in love alot longer than that.

I dunno, it seemed to me that she was thinking WAAAAY too soon and that's what her face revealed.

I realize that they've been in love longer than when they started dating... but to get a ring THAT soon anyway... that's kinda creepy, at least IMO.

GrantDawg · 04-18-2008, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I dunno, it seemed to me that she was thinking WAAAAY too soon and that's what her face revealed.

I realize that they've been in love longer than when they started dating... but to get a ring THAT soon anyway... that's kinda creepy, at least IMO.

I think so, too. This is all setting up for the big question and the shocking answer. No.

Raiders Army · 04-18-2008, 06:27 AM

I wonder how Jim would feel if Pam kissed Roy? I hope he'd be okay with that since he was the sleaze to do it to Roy.

ISiddiqui · 04-18-2008, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I think so, too. This is all setting up for the big question and the shocking answer. No.

Yeah, and I hope I'm not thinking that that is what is going to happen because that's what I want to see (Needs to be some tension... can't be perfect relationship here. That'd just be boring)

larrymcg421 · 04-18-2008, 07:52 AM

I certainly disagree about that. Boring was watching Ross and Rachel break up over and over and over again. There's been enough tension for Jim and Pam (with more than a few contrivances thrown in to keep it going). The real challenge would be to see if the writers can show them as a happy, normal couple that progresses smoothly. They have enough tension with the other characters and their own relationships.

MikeVic · 04-18-2008, 08:42 AM

They're gonna get married and be spun off into their own sitcom.

ISiddiqui · 04-18-2008, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

I certainly disagree about that. Boring was watching Ross and Rachel break up over and over and over again. There's been enough tension for Jim and Pam (with more than a few contrivances thrown in to keep it going). The real challenge would be to see if the writers can show them as a happy, normal couple that progresses smoothly. They have enough tension with the other characters and their own relationships.

Considering I've already started to get a little bored of their relationship, yeah, I'd say it'd be boring if it was happily ever after

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11-18-2007, 09:45 AM	#152
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	The fake mustache episode was just off in a lot of different ways. It just never "felt" like a regular episode. I really think the head writer, from week to week, makes a huge difference in the quality of the show. When Toby is the writer, the episodes are usually very good. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

11-18-2007, 10:11 AM	#153
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	I agree that Paul Lieberstein (Toby) episodes are the best, but I can't agree with the criticism of the "fake mustache" episode. I thought that was pretty funny and less over the top than some of the other stuff Michael has done. I especially liked the "Finer Things Club" subplot. What I really love about this season is how they've focused on developing the characters. The episode "Money" (written by Paul Lieberstein), with Michael in telemarketing and Jim/Pam at Dwight's motel, is one of the best they've ever done. Add to that the last two episodes which have very strongly developed Jim and Michael's characters, and I think they really had something going here. I hope the strike ends soon so we can get back to it. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

04-12-2008, 11:48 AM	#165
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	The tripod cracked me up. At first I thought it was supposed to be subtle and was disappointed that Jan pointed it out, but they made up for it by panning to Michael's face, showing that he had left it out to show off. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers? Last edited by Swaggs : 04-12-2008 at 11:50 AM.

04-12-2008, 01:48 PM	#169
mrsimperless College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2003	Yeah, that song and Jan's dancing to it were both absolutely perfect. __________________ "All I know is that smart women are hot. Susan Polgar beat me in 24 moves in a simultaneous exhbition. I slept with the scoresheet under my pillow." Off some dude's web site.

04-12-2008, 03:52 PM	#170
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	And everyone except Michael knew what that song was talking about. Pooor Michael . __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

11-18-2007, 12:11 PM	#154
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Yeah, Toby is a good writer. I think that Ryan is a pretty crappy writer (comparatively). Ryan makes Michael look like a one-dimensional ass instead of a three dimensional ass with a heart.

04-11-2008, 07:19 PM	#156
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	no love for the episode last night? i thought they packed a lot in to 30 minutes, laughed at a good number of things, despite how ridiculous it got. glad its back.

04-11-2008, 07:58 PM	#157
Dunleavy High School JV Join Date: Sep 2004	yeah they didn't waste half the show on a meaningless dead end sub plot which was nice for a change

04-11-2008, 08:47 PM	#158
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	I love the small plasma tv.

04-11-2008, 09:07 PM	#159
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	I didn't like the episode when Dwight wasn't there. I don't know what it was, I think just a bit too weird/crazy? Dwight getting there kind of changed it for me. I think that means Dwight is my fav.

04-12-2008, 10:23 AM	#160
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	It was a great return episode. One of the best this season.

04-12-2008, 10:43 AM	#163
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	"Awesome!"

04-12-2008, 11:49 AM	#166
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!!

04-12-2008, 01:38 PM	#168
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Best part: The song Jan was listening to. Worst part: 3 vasectomies and 2 reversals. I'm not sure that's physically possible.

04-12-2008, 05:09 PM	#171
Comey College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CT via PA via CA via PA	I like what they're doing with the Jan character. The meltdown, with the realization of what she's thrown away and what she threw it away for, is a great contrast with the dominating, yet passive-aggressive, figure she portrays. It seems quite complex for the last generation of sitcoms. Great, great character buildup. __________________

04-12-2008, 07:11 PM	#172
watravaler High School JV Join Date: Jun 2005	So, a spin-off has been confirmed? Just a matter of time before the careers of the emerging actors dead-end this show...

04-12-2008, 09:51 PM	#173
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	They are doing a great job in hiding Angela's pregnancy (I think she due at the end of next month).

04-13-2008, 11:02 AM	#174
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Michael: Wow this wine has an oaky after birth..

04-13-2008, 12:29 PM	#177
CamEdwards Stadium Announcer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Burke, VA	what's this news of a spin-off? any links or information about the casting? __________________ I don't want the world. I just want your half.

04-13-2008, 01:49 PM	#180
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	I heard a rumor that the new show could feature Andy in a starring role. __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

04-13-2008, 01:50 PM	#181
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	They've said it definitely won't be Dwight, since his interaction with Michael and Jim is too integral to the show. The only rumor I've heard has been Andy, but I'm not even sure he'll be included. My guess is that they just do a show about one of the other branches, and it only has minimal conections to the original. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner Last edited by larrymcg421 : 04-13-2008 at 01:51 PM.

04-13-2008, 01:51 PM	#182
Comey College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CT via PA via CA via PA	I did forget to mention that the Dwight information was older (2007), while a new cast was on April 8th. __________________

04-13-2008, 02:33 PM	#183
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Andy's the only one who could carry the show other than the big four (Michael, Jim, Dwight, Pam). Well, I could see Darryl from the warehouse carrying a show too.

04-13-2008, 03:05 PM	#184
Daimyo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkeley	Andy is the only expendable character on the show who could carry a new show IMO.

04-13-2008, 03:15 PM	#186
Daimyo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkeley	Maybe it could focus on corporate headquarters and Ryan?

04-17-2008, 08:08 PM	#189
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	"I want to be able to play catch with my kid before I get too old ... and to do that, I need to get laid" LOL!! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

04-17-2008, 09:35 PM	#190
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	It took my a second, but Pam's landlady is the Home Ec teacher from Superbad.

04-17-2008, 09:57 PM	#191
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	I love how Michael makes the comment about her being an old lady on the bus and the landlady says how rude that is and Michael tells her that she ruined it, LOL!! Though, did anyone notice that when Jim walked away from Pam's desk after saying he was serious about proposing, she had this scared look on her face? How long have they been dating? And getting a ring 1 week after they started dating? WTF Jim?! __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

04-18-2008, 06:27 AM	#196
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I wonder how Jim would feel if Pam kissed Roy? I hope he'd be okay with that since he was the sleaze to do it to Roy.

04-18-2008, 07:52 AM	#198
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	I certainly disagree about that. Boring was watching Ross and Rachel break up over and over and over again. There's been enough tension for Jim and Pam (with more than a few contrivances thrown in to keep it going). The real challenge would be to see if the writers can show them as a happy, normal couple that progresses smoothly. They have enough tension with the other characters and their own relationships. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

04-18-2008, 08:42 AM	#199
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	They're gonna get married and be spun off into their own sitcom.

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