24, Season 5 Discussion - Page 4

EagleFan · 03-06-2006, 09:23 PM

Wow, just wow.

Oh, and Kim is hot.

i am a little pissed about the ass that played Kim's boyfriend. He freaking gave up too much on the Bob and Tom show this morning. I won't relay it here for those who didn't hear it, or didn't pick up on it so not to ruin it for anyone else as it also involves future episodes. With them being huge fans of the show, I'm kind of surpriese that they didn't call him on it.

Oh, and damn, not Edgar!!!! I have to admit, I thought they were setting him up to be the hero of this one. Actually he's sort of the goat. After hearing about the intruder and knowing what she said about the alert in the mechanical room, I would have thought it not that difficult to put 2 and 2 together. Especially since the whole theme had been nerve gas and air vents.

panerd · 03-06-2006, 09:23 PM

Like 15 red shirts are on hand to take anyone on the floor into custosy within seconds of Rudy's call, but anytime somebody breaches security the only people who are around are one (soon to be dead) red shirt and Jack Bauer. What is the fatality rate for the red shirt job? About 35%?

Logan · 03-06-2006, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by panerd

Like 15 red shirts are on hand to take anyone on the floor into custosy within seconds of Rudy's call, but anytime somebody breaches security the only people who are around are one (soon to be dead) red shirt and Jack Bauer. What is the fatality rate for the red shirt job? About 35%?

That's less than the fatality rate for "guys going with Jack to look for a suspect." I think that's up around 90%. Why do you think he's been solo so much this season?

"Johnson, go be the unrecognizable agent on Jack's side! By the way, who's your next of kin?"

EagleFan · 03-06-2006, 09:46 PM

Okay, here's a question though. The terrorists were going to take the nerve gas off American soil, yet they had planned on attempting to get the key card. That's not something that just pops up, that had to be planned well in advance. Either the plan was to never take it off American soil (which I suspect due to Henderson's involvement and his vendetta against CTU) or the terrorists are actually the freaking Boy Scouts.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-06-2006, 10:53 PM

Poor Edgar.

*pours a little of his 40 on the concrete*

What the hell is with C. Thomas Howel's goatee? It's like a freakin' shrubbery that thing. It's huuuuuge.

I think Samwise/Rudy/The Goonie is next. He has to redeem himself for the key card fuck up.

All in all a fun two hours of television.

TazFTW · 03-07-2006, 01:34 AM

Stealing this from another board.

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There's always a socket open where your going....RIP

Poor Edgar.

Heck, poor Carrie. She's just started then she's fired, rehired and stabbed in the neck.

Holy 80s Batman! First Mikey, then Warlock, then Robocop, then JoBeth Williams, and now Soul Man. Are the Brat Pack behind all of this?

Loved the scene with Curtis and his lead blockers.

"I shot her above the kneecap, she can still walk!"

I heart Jack.

Captain2711 · 03-07-2006, 08:50 AM

So how did they find Rudy's sister and her boyfriend dead so quickly. They were executed in an apartment with a gun with a silencer on it. I guess the police just stumbled upon their place and looked in the window. I guess the only logical explanation is that after Rudy called her, CTU followed up the lead. A little to quick and convenient though.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-07-2006, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain2711

So how did they find Rudy's sister and her boyfriend dead so quickly. They were executed in an apartment with a gun with a silencer on it. I guess the police just stumbled upon their place and looked in the window. I guess the only logical explanation is that after Rudy called her, CTU followed up the lead. A little to quick and convenient though.

The "real time" aspect of "24" has gotten looser and looser with each season. Apparently Jack and Curtis can get pretty much anywhere in LA in about 2-5 minutes, but it takes a good 45 minutes to get from where the president is living to the airport.

I remember in the first season Jack seemed to spend a lot of time in the car driving around and around to different locations. It wasn't as exciting, but did keep the "real time" feel of the show.

gottimd · 03-07-2006, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

The "real time" aspect of "24" has gotten looser and looser with each season. Apparently Jack and Curtis can get pretty much anywhere in LA in about 2-5 minutes, but it takes a good 45 minutes to get from where the president is living to the airport.

I remember in the first season Jack seemed to spend a lot of time in the car driving around and around to different locations. It wasn't as exciting, but did keep the "real time" feel of the show.

That would be funny, spend a whole episode of Jack yelling in traffic at the car in front of him, as he gets out and drags a soccer mom from a mini-van and points the gun at her and yells "Where is the Nerve gas!!!"

Captain2711 · 03-07-2006, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

The "real time" aspect of "24" has gotten looser and looser with each season. Apparently Jack and Curtis can get pretty much anywhere in LA in about 2-5 minutes, but it takes a good 45 minutes to get from where the president is living to the airport.

I remember in the first season Jack seemed to spend a lot of time in the car driving around and around to different locations. It wasn't as exciting, but did keep the "real time" feel of the show.

Chloe would just clear a path of red lights for Jack like Dr. Evil's son did in The Italian Job.

gottimd · 03-07-2006, 09:13 AM

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Chloe would just clear a path of red lights for Jack like Dr. Evil's son did in The Italian Job, as she had that ugly looking scowl on her face.

Fixed.

scooper · 03-07-2006, 09:59 AM

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Maybe one ring could get him by?

If Chester Copperpot couldn't get in, I doubt Rudy can. Then again, he does have the map. What a clever little Goonie.

CamEdwards · 03-07-2006, 10:23 AM

definitely did not see the death of Edgar coming. Had an interesting discussion last night about who would be the next to go. Rudy/Samwise/Mikey would seem to be the logical choice, but they already did the redemption thing with Mason in Season 2. I'll be kind of disappointed if they return to that well.

BTW, I would have been happy had Kim not returned to the show. I don't know about this whole Eugene Landy-esque subplot.

kingfc22 · 03-08-2006, 11:46 PM

Just watched this on Tivo and I'm speechless. They freaking killed Edgar!

kingfc22 · 03-08-2006, 11:50 PM

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Loved the scene with Curtis and his lead blockers.

"I shot her above the kneecap, she can still walk!"

I heart Jack.

amdaily · 03-13-2006, 09:02 PM

This show fucking blows now

jbmagic · 03-13-2006, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by amdaily

This show fucking blows now

Did another regular character died?

amdaily · 03-13-2006, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

Did another regular character died?

affirmative

jbmagic · 03-13-2006, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by amdaily

affirmative

Damn that sucks

I got an hour and half before it starts here in the west coast.

kingfc22 · 03-14-2006, 12:00 AM

Damn it. Can we start killing the terrorists please?!

kingfc22 · 03-14-2006, 12:01 AM

I want to see Curtis and Jack just whoop somebody's ass!

jbmagic · 03-14-2006, 12:01 AM

Damn

Two regulars died tonight. Wow

Ragone · 03-14-2006, 02:16 AM

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NO!!!!!!! Not Egdar!!!!

apparently fat guys are more succeptable to this strand of nerve gas.. he ran (err fast walked) into the main area.. stared at chloe.. then fell over.. heh

Honolulu_Blue · 03-14-2006, 06:01 AM

They are setting up Jack for a Man On Fire type of rampage for the second half of this season. Michelle... Edgard... Tony... Jack will be one pissed of dude. More so.

Warlock. Robocop. Your hours are numbered.

The Vice President Hal Gardner. I wonder if his name's a shout out to the Green Lantern corps: Hal Jordan and Guy Gardner.

gottimd · 03-14-2006, 06:37 AM

Can anyone explain to me how the rooms are sealed off, only 3 of them, but yet jack can use a pen knife to cut through a "sealed" and get to another room that with A/C can flush out the scintox nerve gas, and that Duct tape holds this gas back, although the gas itself has acidic value to it and is eating through metal plates?

Qwikshot · 03-14-2006, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

Can anyone explain to me how the rooms are sealed off, only 3 of them, but yet jack can use a pen knife to cut through a "sealed" and get to another room that with A/C can flush out the scintox nerve gas, and that Duct tape holds this gas back, although the gas itself has acidic value to it and is eating through metal plates?

Ah the wonders of television...

Captain2711 · 03-14-2006, 08:03 AM

Where's Rudy? Rudy.

You ready for this?

I've been ready for this my whole life.

Then you save us. You restart the AC and begin the flushing out of the poison.

jbmagic · 03-14-2006, 08:15 AM

[quote=gottimd]Can anyone explain to me how the rooms are sealed off, only 3 of them, but yet jack can use a pen knife to cut through a "sealed" and get to another room that with A/C can flush out the scintox nerve gas, and that Duct tape holds this gas back, although the gas itself has acidic value to it and is eating through metal plates?[/QU

Jack called MacGyver

amdaily · 03-14-2006, 08:28 AM

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I want to see Curtis and Jack just whoop somebody's ass!

By the look of the preview, Curtis' time is numbered on the show as well

gottimd · 03-14-2006, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain2711

Where's Rudy? Rudy.

You ready for this?

I've been ready for this my whole life.

Then you save us. You restart the AC and begin the flushing out of the poison.

You can do it Samwise.

There is only one program.

One program the starts the A/C.

One program to save them all.

scooper · 03-14-2006, 09:31 AM

Goonies never say die. Unless they breathe scintox nerve gas.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-14-2006, 09:37 AM

Jack, he wants the best of stuff for us. But right now, he's got to do what's right for him. Because it's his time. His time! Up there! Down here, it's our time. It's our time down here. That's all over the second we open this door.

gottimd · 03-14-2006, 09:41 AM

I think the writers should have had Lynn walk around in a Notre Dame jacket, barefoot and always using an inhaler.

scooper · 03-14-2006, 09:46 AM

Correct me if I'm mistaken. By my count, the only original characters remaining after Tony's death are Jack, Kim, Mike Novack and Aaron Pierce. This show is not shy about killing people off.

TazFTW · 03-14-2006, 08:22 PM

"My name is Tony Almeida. You killed my wife. Prepare to die."

No silent clock for Tony? Edgar got one. Although come to think of it I don't think Palmer and Michelle got one either.

I don't understand why Tony would go for a needle when he could of just shot Robocop.

amdaily · 03-14-2006, 08:24 PM

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I don't understand why Tony would go for a needle when he could of just shot Robocop.

agreed. stupid ]plot hole

Coop · 03-14-2006, 09:33 PM

Tony was suppose to die in the first episode with Michelle, but Carlos suggested they keep him in a little bit longer, apparently.
BTW, it was a stupid death

Ragone · 03-15-2006, 03:29 AM

i liked the guard with rudy in the holding pen

"HEY... I'M OKAY... I'M!*Vomit**Convulse**Dead*

heh

Captain2711 · 03-15-2006, 07:31 AM

I love the fact Rudy was so inept and under strain to run CTU, but somehow manages to pull it all together and save everyone.

gottimd · 03-15-2006, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain2711

I love the fact Rudy was so inept and under strain to run CTU, but somehow manages to pull it all together and save everyone.

His resume did say "Works well under pressure".

PackerFanatic · 03-15-2006, 12:40 PM

Man...they really AREN'T shy in kiling anyone off. No one is safe...and scooper, I think your count is right there.

Although I kinda wish Kim wouldn't have come back. She is hot, yes...but being a bitch about the whole situation. Oh well, I guess we will see.

Go Jack Go!

jbmagic · 03-15-2006, 01:19 PM

Jack once said in an interview that he not safe either.

I can see this show format going on for many seasons. If Jack or the producer ever decide it time for a change, i can see a new lead character taking over.

gottimd · 03-15-2006, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

Jack once said in an interview that he not safe either.

I can see this show format going on for many seasons. If Jack or the producer ever decide it time for a change, i can see a new lead character taking over.

No way, if Jack dies, the whole world will internally combust. It will look like the Death Star blowing up.

scooper · 03-15-2006, 02:34 PM

I will cry in fear for my family's safety if Jack Bauer is ever killed off.

Cuckoo · 03-15-2006, 07:29 PM

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No way, if Jack dies, the whole world will internally combust. It will look like the Death Star blowing up.

The word is they're looking to move Jack to a feature film series and keep the show running with other people.

PackerFanatic · 03-15-2006, 07:42 PM

Yeah, I always thought that Jack wasn't safe as well. Who knows what will happen!

jbmagic · 03-15-2006, 07:44 PM

If Jack ever dies or leaves the show, who do you like to see as the lead man?

Vin Diessel?

gottimd · 03-15-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

If Jack ever dies or leaves the show, who do you like to see as the lead man?

Vin Diessel?

Larry David.

kingfc22 · 03-15-2006, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuckoo

The word is they're looking to move Jack to a feature film series and keep the show running with other people.

A 24 hr. movie.

jbmagic · 03-15-2006, 08:02 PM

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A 24 hr. movie.

yep.

I think if there a movie, it will be based between end of one season to the beginning of a new season. Like they did on X-files when they made the movie for it.

There already a video game for 24. The game timeline is between season 2 and season 3.

03-06-2006, 10:53 PM	#155
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Poor Edgar. pours a little of his 40 on the concrete What the hell is with C. Thomas Howel's goatee? It's like a freakin' shrubbery that thing. It's huuuuuge. I think Samwise/Rudy/The Goonie is next. He has to redeem himself for the key card fuck up. All in all a fun two hours of television. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

03-07-2006, 08:50 AM	#157
Captain2711 High School JV Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jersey	So how did they find Rudy's sister and her boyfriend dead so quickly. They were executed in an apartment with a gun with a silencer on it. I guess the police just stumbled upon their place and looked in the window. I guess the only logical explanation is that after Rudy called her, CTU followed up the lead. A little to quick and convenient though. __________________ "If the Bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, it's that girls should stick to girls sports, such as hot oil wrestling and foxy boxing and such and such."

03-07-2006, 10:23 AM	#163
CamEdwards Stadium Announcer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Burke, VA	definitely did not see the death of Edgar coming. Had an interesting discussion last night about who would be the next to go. Rudy/Samwise/Mikey would seem to be the logical choice, but they already did the redemption thing with Mason in Season 2. I'll be kind of disappointed if they return to that well. BTW, I would have been happy had Kim not returned to the show. I don't know about this whole Eugene Landy-esque subplot. __________________ I don't want the world. I just want your half.

03-08-2006, 11:46 PM	#164
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Just watched this on Tivo and I'm speechless. They freaking killed Edgar! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

03-14-2006, 12:00 AM	#170
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Damn it. Can we start killing the terrorists please?! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

03-06-2006, 09:23 PM	#151
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Wow, just wow. Oh, and Kim is hot. i am a little pissed about the ass that played Kim's boyfriend. He freaking gave up too much on the Bob and Tom show this morning. I won't relay it here for those who didn't hear it, or didn't pick up on it so not to ruin it for anyone else as it also involves future episodes. With them being huge fans of the show, I'm kind of surpriese that they didn't call him on it. Oh, and damn, not Edgar!!!! I have to admit, I thought they were setting him up to be the hero of this one. Actually he's sort of the goat. After hearing about the intruder and knowing what she said about the alert in the mechanical room, I would have thought it not that difficult to put 2 and 2 together. Especially since the whole theme had been nerve gas and air vents.

03-06-2006, 09:23 PM	#152
panerd Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis	Like 15 red shirts are on hand to take anyone on the floor into custosy within seconds of Rudy's call, but anytime somebody breaches security the only people who are around are one (soon to be dead) red shirt and Jack Bauer. What is the fatality rate for the red shirt job? About 35%?

03-06-2006, 09:46 PM	#154
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Okay, here's a question though. The terrorists were going to take the nerve gas off American soil, yet they had planned on attempting to get the key card. That's not something that just pops up, that had to be planned well in advance. Either the plan was to never take it off American soil (which I suspect due to Henderson's involvement and his vendetta against CTU) or the terrorists are actually the freaking Boy Scouts.

03-13-2006, 09:02 PM	#166
amdaily College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2003	This show fucking blows now

03-14-2006, 12:01 AM	#171
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	I want to see Curtis and Jack just whoop somebody's ass! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

03-14-2006, 12:01 AM	#172
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	Damn Two regulars died tonight. Wow

03-14-2006, 06:01 AM	#174
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	They are setting up Jack for a Man On Fire type of rampage for the second half of this season. Michelle... Edgard... Tony... Jack will be one pissed of dude. More so. Warlock. Robocop. Your hours are numbered. The Vice President Hal Gardner. I wonder if his name's a shout out to the Green Lantern corps: Hal Jordan and Guy Gardner. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

03-14-2006, 06:37 AM	#175
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	Can anyone explain to me how the rooms are sealed off, only 3 of them, but yet jack can use a pen knife to cut through a "sealed" and get to another room that with A/C can flush out the scintox nerve gas, and that Duct tape holds this gas back, although the gas itself has acidic value to it and is eating through metal plates? __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

03-14-2006, 08:03 AM	#177
Captain2711 High School JV Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jersey	Where's Rudy? Rudy. You ready for this? I've been ready for this my whole life. Then you save us. You restart the AC and begin the flushing out of the poison. __________________ "If the Bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, it's that girls should stick to girls sports, such as hot oil wrestling and foxy boxing and such and such."

03-14-2006, 08:15 AM	#178
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	[quote=gottimd]Can anyone explain to me how the rooms are sealed off, only 3 of them, but yet jack can use a pen knife to cut through a "sealed" and get to another room that with A/C can flush out the scintox nerve gas, and that Duct tape holds this gas back, although the gas itself has acidic value to it and is eating through metal plates?[/QU Jack called MacGyver

03-14-2006, 09:31 AM	#181
scooper College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cinn City	Goonies never say die. Unless they breathe scintox nerve gas.

03-14-2006, 09:37 AM	#182
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Jack, he wants the best of stuff for us. But right now, he's got to do what's right for him. Because it's his time. His time! Up there! Down here, it's our time. It's our time down here. That's all over the second we open this door. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

03-14-2006, 09:41 AM	#183
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	I think the writers should have had Lynn walk around in a Notre Dame jacket, barefoot and always using an inhaler. __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

03-14-2006, 09:46 AM	#184
scooper College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cinn City	Correct me if I'm mistaken. By my count, the only original characters remaining after Tony's death are Jack, Kim, Mike Novack and Aaron Pierce. This show is not shy about killing people off.

03-14-2006, 08:22 PM	#185
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	"My name is Tony Almeida. You killed my wife. Prepare to die." No silent clock for Tony? Edgar got one. Although come to think of it I don't think Palmer and Michelle got one either. I don't understand why Tony would go for a needle when he could of just shot Robocop. __________________ "Teams don't want to make the trip anymore," says Hawaii coach June Jones. "They come here, we kick their ass, they go home." Fire Ron Lee.

03-14-2006, 09:33 PM	#187
Coop High School JV Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NJ	Tony was suppose to die in the first episode with Michelle, but Carlos suggested they keep him in a little bit longer, apparently. BTW, it was a stupid death __________________ eNFL-Carolina Panthers Xbox Live- Coop421 Last edited by Coop : 03-14-2006 at 09:34 PM.

03-15-2006, 03:29 AM	#188
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	i liked the guard with rudy in the holding pen "HEY... I'M OKAY... I'M!VomitConvulseDead heh

03-15-2006, 07:31 AM	#189
Captain2711 High School JV Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jersey	I love the fact Rudy was so inept and under strain to run CTU, but somehow manages to pull it all together and save everyone. __________________ "If the Bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, it's that girls should stick to girls sports, such as hot oil wrestling and foxy boxing and such and such."

03-15-2006, 12:40 PM	#191
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Man...they really AREN'T shy in kiling anyone off. No one is safe...and scooper, I think your count is right there. Although I kinda wish Kim wouldn't have come back. She is hot, yes...but being a bitch about the whole situation. Oh well, I guess we will see. Go Jack Go! __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

03-15-2006, 01:19 PM	#192
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	Jack once said in an interview that he not safe either. I can see this show format going on for many seasons. If Jack or the producer ever decide it time for a change, i can see a new lead character taking over.

03-15-2006, 02:34 PM	#194
scooper College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cinn City	I will cry in fear for my family's safety if Jack Bauer is ever killed off.

03-15-2006, 07:42 PM	#196
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Yeah, I always thought that Jack wasn't safe as well. Who knows what will happen! __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

03-15-2006, 07:44 PM	#197
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	If Jack ever dies or leaves the show, who do you like to see as the lead man? Vin Diessel?

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