College Football Bowl Games/Playoffs discussion

[Buccaneer]

I never viewed football in the South as a mystery, more of a fanatical thing - whether positive or negative fanaticism. Certain other parts of the country view prep and college football as nearly irrelevant, which makes outsider look upon the South with curiosity.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by Matthean

Similar to Ole Miss and Miss. State this year. They had abnormally good years. Let's see if it is a trend or more flash in the pan. For the life of me though, I can't see GT's offense making them anything more than a second tier team.

GTs offense is as effective as any in CFB (and it may have the best play caller in CFB calling the shots) as long as it has the horses to run it. The triple Option Flex has been proven for nearly a century. It will never be the problem. Recruiting will be the question every year for CPJ, IMHO.

[Edward64]

GT exceeded my expectations so am enjoying their season.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by digamma

Jon is a member of the fellowship of the miserable, a specially established order of GT fans. Just leave him be.

The rest of us are having a blast.

I was, ftr, complimentary of tonight's performance. My only reason to mention the background info tonight was because someone inquired.

Do I believe it's a trend or an aberration? That's a whole diff question.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Except they run the stupidest, most unwatchable offense ever devised for football.

Oddly enough, of all my criticism of the current era, this isn't one of them. I think it's probably the most exciting offensive football scheme -- WHEN it works -- I've seen in my life. Truly a work of art to my eye ... when it clicks.

[stevew]

I really have never been interested much in college football but I may check out this playoffs thing cause it is kind of interesting to me.

[Mike1409]

I agree it's a beautiful offense when it's running effectively. I guess it's the fact that so many teams ran it in my childhood but it has a special place with me.

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Mike1409

I agree it's a beautiful offense when it's running effectively. I guess it's the fact that so many teams ran it in my childhood but it has a special place with me.

Same here, when I was watching all of those boring option teams 40-45 years ago. Didn't like it then and certainly do not like it now (and why I have nothing to do with our local Air Force team).

[Buccaneer]

I am happy to see quality New Year's bowl games back, as written about here

New Year's Day bowls are resurrected and alive again - CBSSports.com

It has been embarrassing to college football to have had so many worthless bowl games and teams on such a traditional football day.

[Matthean]

There's honestly not a single bad match up for today. Even if some games are not nearly as hyped, they look like good match ups. As usual, it is a make or break day for the Big 10 with the SEC not far behind.

[miked]

It's always great when GT runs the option well, especially against SEC teams that we hear are so great because their only losses are to other great SEC teams and they beat ranked SEC teams.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Same here, when I was watching all of those boring option teams 40-45 years ago. Didn't like it then and certainly do not like it now (and why I have nothing to do with our local Air Force team).

As a former AFA grad you are missing a lot then. Air FOrce football is a great afternoon and is and has been the best college football in the state for the last 20 years . They are fun games especially for kids. But YMMV if a Boise St fan who I remember we beat down this past year☺️

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Galaril

As a former AFA grad you are missing a lot then. Air FOrce football is a great afternoon and is and has been the best college football in the state for the last 20 years . They are fun games especially for kids. But YMMV if a Boise St fan who I remember we beat down this past year☺️

I understand except apart from mandatory cadets attendance, no one else shows up to the games (some games have been in the few thousands). But armed forces have been the odd ducks of D1 and my son would rather watch all of the FBS games (and FCS playoffs) on TV, iPad, iPhone simultaneously. We'll see if he goes to CSU for college, that way he can experience real (for the West) D1 football and atmosphere like I did at SDSU.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

I understand except apart from mandatory cadets attendance, no one else shows up to the games (some games have been in the few thousands). But armed forces have been the odd ducks of D1 and my son would rather watch all of the FBS games (and FCS playoffs) on TV, iPad, iPhone simultaneously. We'll see if he goes to CSU for college, that way he can experience real (for the West) D1 football and atmosphere like I did at SDSU.

Sure good luck with that.

[Kodos]

Nice seeing SEC teams go down, especially by large margins.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Nice seeing SEC teams go down, especially by large margins.

How dare you poke the bear.

If the Big Ten ends up with a winning record today in their 3 games against the SEC, now what would make me chuckle.

[JPhillips]

Braxton Miller to Wisconsin makes too much sense to happen.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Braxton Miller to Wisconsin makes too much sense to happen.

No, Miller to Minnesota makes more. We have a far more dire situation at QB.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Braxton Miller to Wisconsin makes too much sense to happen.

If I were him, I wouldn't aim that low. The rest of the playoff teams will have new QBs next year.

[BillJasper]

I guess Mississippi and Mississippi State weren't quite as good as everyone thought earlier in the season.

[CU Tiger]

Did everyone else hear this DA Auburn RB, easy he wish he got to play against weak D like the Big 10?

Seriously this is how brainwashed these kids are.
I hate Ohio State...but I hope they hang 50 on Bama so we can argue that TCU shoulkdhave been in the playoff instead of Bama

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

I guess Mississippi and Mississippi State weren't quite as good as everyone thought earlier in the season.

MissSt went from unrankred to #4 in two weeks thanks to a pair of in conference wins.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Did everyone else hear this DA Auburn RB, easy he wish he got to play against weak D like the Big 10?

Seriously this is how brainwashed these kids are.
I hate Ohio State...but I hope they hang 50 on Bama so we can argue that TCU shoulkdhave been in the playoff instead of Bama

Yeah, because Ole Miss and Mississippi State's defenses really proved their quality yesterday.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Did everyone else hear this DA Auburn RB, easy he wish he got to play against weak D like the Big 10?

Seriously this is how brainwashed these kids are.
I hate Ohio State...but I hope they hang 50 on Bama so we can argue that TCU shoulkdhave been in the playoff instead of Bama

To be fair, one of the supposedly better Big Ten defenses gave up 40+ in the two games they played against top offenses and have given up 14 in the first quarter of their ball game. Also, Auburn is currently beating their Big Ten opponent so if you can back it...

[Chief Rum]

Although graduate transfers are a different matter, I seem to recall that an intra-conference transfer can only happen with the agreement of the original school. I'm pretty sure tOSU won't allow Miller to go to a B1G school.

Same thing happened a couple years ago to UCLA. Osweiler wanted to follow OC Mazzone from ASU to UCLA, but Graham wouldn't allow it (so Osweiler went pro to sit on the bench behind Manning).

[JonInMiddleGA]

I was gonna ask who handled the Miss State defense in the absence of their now-former DC but I found it.

Former NFL DB DeShea Townsend ... who I'm thinking rather flunked his audition for a DC job for a while.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I was gonna ask who handled the Miss State defense in the absence of their now-former DC but I found it.

Former NFL DB DeShea Townsend ... who I'm thinking rather flunked his audition for a DC job for a while.

Townsend will call plays for the first time in his coaching career during MSU's Wednesday bout with Georgia Tech in the Orange Bowl. Townsend assumes the duties in the absence of former defensive coordinator Geoff Collins, who departed for the same position at Florida on Dec. 16.

Holy cow, I didn't even realize this had happened. WTH???

[Butter]

How is Wisconsin winning this game? I guess pretty much Melvin Gordon.

[Easy Mac]

How is Melvin Gordon not called for a facemask every play?

[Butter]

Originally Posted by Matthean

To be fair, one of the supposedly better Big Ten defenses gave up 40+ in the two games they played against top offenses and have given up 14 in the first quarter of their ball game. Also, Auburn is currently beating their Big Ten opponent so if you can back it...

To be fair, Gordon has over 200 yards with a quarter to play against one of those vaunted SEC defenses, so maybe Artis-Payne needs to shut the hell up.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

To be fair, Gordon has over 200 yards with a quarter to play against one of those vaunted SEC defenses, so maybe Artis-Payne needs to shut the hell up.

Auburn, vaunted defense?

[HerRealName]

I was flipping across multiple games and must have missed it but why is McEvoy playing on defense? Looks like he is playing free safety.

Edit: Should have googled it, looks like this was planned. He was practicing on defense through bowl prep. As bad as Stave is, that seems like a mistake.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

against one of those vaunted SEC defenses,

Umm, pretty sure there weren't any sane people vaunting the Auburn defense after since sometime in October. They've given up 39 ppg in their last six against D1 teams.

edit to add: And haven't given up less than 31 in any of those.

[lungs]

Originally Posted by HerRealName

I was flipping across multiple games and must have missed it but why is McEvoy playing on defense? Looks like he is playing free safety.

Edit: Should have googled it, looks like this was planned. He was practicing on defense through bowl prep. As bad as Stave is, that seems like a mistake.

Stave is terrible but McEvoy is even worse.

[Butter]

Maxx Williams!

[JonInMiddleGA]

Most interest I've ever had in a Minnesota bowl game, as one of their recruits for next year is the best player to ever come from my HS alma mater (RB Shannon Brooks, Pickens/Jasper, GA)

[Butter]

Originally Posted by Matthean

Auburn, vaunted defense?

According to Artis-Payne, Gordon only had good stats because he plays in the Big Ten. Looks to me like if he was in the SEC, the story would be much the same.

[lungs]

At this rate, no need for Stave to do anything but hand the ball off.

[Butter]

Third OT in the Outback Bowl in the last six years.

[CU Tiger]

There is something humorous to me about Wisconsin's chubby kicker

[Bobble]

Way to go, Wisky! Nice win.

Maybe it's my Lion's history, but I can't stand Millen. Is it just me, or has he been borderline offensive in talking about Wisky's kicker?

[lungs]

It's got to be hard for a team like Auburn that expects to be playing for National Championships to get motivated to play against Wisconsin in the Outback Bowl.

[Lathum]

have a 5 team parlay, all money lines,Wiscy, Mizzou,Baylor, FSU, and Bama. Will likely come down to FSU. Ugh.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

According to Artis-Payne, Gordon only had good stats because he plays in the Big Ten. Looks to me like if he was in the SEC, the story would be much the same.

Indeed. But the SEC kool aid drinkers will just say Auburn wasn't a good SEC defense. This doesn't explain Ole Miss and Miss St getting ripped apart... nor LSU a few days earlier.

[ISiddiqui]

I'm shaking my head... watching Mizzou vs. Minnesota and folks are chanting "S-E-C", instead of anything dealing with the team itself. They've already brainwashed the Mizzou fans. SMH.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Lathum

have a 5 team parlay, all money lines,Wiscy, Mizzou,Baylor, FSU, and Bama. Will likely come down to FSU. Ugh.

You took FSU and gave points? They were -9 faves last I checked. I hope you didn't do that.

[Atocep]

Conner Cook just did one of the dumbest things I've ever seen a QB do.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Indeed. But the SEC kool aid drinkers will just say Auburn wasn't a good SEC defense. This doesn't explain Ole Miss and Miss St getting ripped apart... nor LSU a few days earlier.

Would you like to say it WAS a good SEC defense? I mean, there's kind of a ring of truth to say that was a shitty defense.

And, y'know, I'm not sure Wisconsin should crow much about beating a team that came in 8-4. And I LIKE that Wisconsin team as being a good one. (check my polls throughout the year, you'll see what I mean), if anything they should have won that game by 2-3 TD's, which was my expectation.

Auburn is, maybe, the 4th best team in the west versus what looks like the 2nd or 3rd best team in the BWhatever.

[Bobble]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Conner Cook just did one of the dumbest things I've ever seen a QB do.

In his defense, though, his target was being mauled but that wasn't called.

[Scoobz0202]

Not watching the game, but reading some confusion with Missouri. People claiming Mauk is looking concussed and even reports of him being ill on the sideline. I looked at the box score and see he is still in the game. Is something up or is this other forum just playing up nothing?