NFL Week 10

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

The other 25% of the programming can be stuff like 30 for 30 and special interest stories about sports history. If there was a network out there that just brought back what made ESPN great in its heyday, then I think the audience would certainly be there.

I was thinking about Classic Sports (and then ESPN Classic) the other day. Loved that - but then I always liked doing things like going through old Encyclopedia Year Books. I never watch ESPN News. I think I'd at least spend some time watching CSN. I know I would spend more time watching NFLN if they covered more of the old NFL Films stuff (what I do watch from them - outside of games - is typically A Football Life).

[Suicane75]

These uniforms are atrocious.

[cuervo72]

I actually like the gold jerseys and have always liked the Titans light blues. The JAX helmet is still ridiculous though, and monochrome sucks balls. And they have GOT to do something about the effing sweat boxes.

[digamma]

The blue on blue makes them look like Smurfs.

I don't mind the gold. I think they'd look good with white pants.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

I was thinking about Classic Sports (and then ESPN Classic) the other day. Loved that - but then I always liked doing things like going through old Encyclopedia Year Books. I never watch ESPN News. I think I'd at least spend some time watching CSN. I know I would spend more time watching NFLN if they covered more of the old NFL Films stuff (what I do watch from them - outside of games - is typically A Football Life).

I bought quite a bit of both News and Classic once upon a time. News exists on cume (the number of people who watch a little bit) rather than rating (the number of people watching at a given moment). It's not great but at least it's something. The ratings for the two were usually pretty similar but Classic didn't even have the cume.

News largely exists so that ESPN has cheap spots (or free bonus spots) to give away to advertisers.

[cuervo72]

And a place for overflow programming too, I guess. Like when 4.5 hour SEC games are bumping whatever was supposed to come on next on ESPN proper.

Maybe I haven't looked at this too recently; going by my guide half their programming looks like tv versions of radio shows and rehashes of First Take. Not even news anymore.

[cuervo72]

Ok, wait - Classic DOES still exist in some form??

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[bhlloy]

News is my go to for mindless daytime background noise when the alternative is around the horn or first take or any other of the asinine analyst shows they put on in the middle of the day. If I'm not really watching it I can usually get a few rotations of the same news stories before I have to put something else on

[Abe Sargent]

My Jags win baby

[Suicane75]

Originally Posted by digamma

The blue on blue makes them look like Smurfs.

I don't mind the gold. I think they'd look good with white pants.

That was gold? They looked like the Arizona Wranglers, though somehow not nearly as good.

[Thomkal]

it might be about to come crashing down on Jameis Winston:

Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterback Jameis Winston threatens to sue CNN over documentary

[Thomkal]

Speaking of all over:

Colin Kaepernick of San Francisco 49ers placed on season-ending IR

[Marmel]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

it might be about to come crashing down on Jameis Winston:

Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterback Jameis Winston threatens to sue CNN over documentary

He has nothing to worry about. the NFL is A-OK with rapists, child abusers, woman beaters and probably even murderers playing in their league.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

it might be about to come crashing down on Jameis Winston:

Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterback Jameis Winston threatens to sue CNN over documentary

"The Hunting Ground" received positive reviews after its Sundance premiere but since has been the target of criticism by some for being unfair. The letter from Winston's lawyer states that the documentary omits some exculpatory evidence and "manipulates, misstates or simply omits facts to present a false narrative." The letter also points to emails from one of the film's producers in which she said she was "in the corner of advocacy for victims" and therefore did not see a "need to get the perpetrator's side," as she was not a journalist.

Ugh...

[Thomkal]

Ravens getting decimated with injuries-Forsett hurt and Flacco has torn his knee-season ending injury.

[Thomkal]

14 teams have used backup QB's this season.

[EagleFan]

I seriously detest this Eagles team.

[Radii]

10-0! It was great to see a truly dominating performance as well.

[MizzouRah]

What's worse, Rams offense or Missouri's?

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

What's worse, Rams offense or Missouri's?

Ohio State's?

[NobodyHere]

Nice to see the Lions get back to back wins.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

What's worse, Rams offense or Missouri's?

I have redzone and as a Rams fan I have to say it is almost useless. Their offense is so putrid they're never in the redzone. Their defense is so good their opponent is rarely in the redzone. End result is I'm lucky (or unlucky depending on your view) to see 10 minutes of one of their games.

[rowech]

This is a really long week 10 this season.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Blaine Gabbert is looking surprisingly good against the Seahawks. I can't believe I typed that.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Ohio State's?

Well played.. lol

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by Sweed

I have redzone and as a Rams fan I have to say it is almost useless. Their offense is so putrid they're never in the redzone. Their defense is so good their opponent is rarely in the redzone. End result is I'm lucky (or unlucky depending on your view) to see 10 minutes of one of their games.

Turnovers killed us today.. but I think we need to stick with Foles. But yeah.. not much on RZ for the Rams.

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

I don't just direct this to you but to everyone. When exactly was the ESPN heyday? I can remember the days of George Grande and Tom Mees and people have been bitching about ESPN for most of that time.

I feel like the late 80's to mid 90's were the best time in my memory. Sportscenter had highlights, tons of them. They still showed stuff like swamp buggy racing. I feel like I remember a time when they showed putt putt golf. I enjoyed the variety, the fact that they weren't spending their whole day spouting the same bullshit from different mouths about the latest controversy or the latest big story. Now it's all just a bunch of the same thing in slightly different packages.

I know I am probably in the minority and the masses probably eat that stupid stuff up, but I used to leave it on ESPN all day unless MST3K was on comedy central.

[Vince, Pt. II]

I think that it was right around the end of the 90's that ESPN jumped the shark. It definitely happened while I was in college.

[JPhillips]

This is starting to look like a bad Bengals second half. Penalties, blown assignments, high throws.

edit: Here come the prime time Bengals.

[Butter]

42-14 Cardinals final score?

[JPhillips]

I think it's time to move on from football season. The Bengals just show nothing to make me think they'll be any different than years past.

[Butter]

The Bengals will lose this game, but Good Lord the Cardinals corners are whining after every pass to the wide outs for an offensive pass interference flag.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Remember that Arizona is really, really good.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

I feel like I remember a time when they showed putt putt golf.

You remember correctly.

[rowech]

One of the most clearly biased officiated games I've ever seen. Right from the start and they finished it off with some bullshit call as well.

[Julio Riddols]

It was a good game, the Bengals showed their resolve and played their asses off, but there isn't much you can do to stop Palmer when he is making good throws. He was outstanding through the 3rd quarter. Really liked what I saw from Dalton, really wished they had just tried to convert the 3rd and short there instead of going for it all on that play. Left too much time on the clock.

[Butter]

Yeah, I thought they would hand to Bernard and either get the first down or run the clock down to about twenty seconds and try the FG. I didn't like that call.

[rowech]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Yeah, I thought they would hand to Bernard and either get the first down or run the clock down to about twenty seconds and try the FG. I didn't like that call.

That's what a real coach would have done. I just don't understand Marvin Lewis at all. He coaches so haphazardly as if nothing bad can happen or if the other team will always play it like he hopes they will.

[PilotMan]

Just dropping in to make sure everyone knows that the Bengals lost. That's all.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

Just dropping in to make sure everyone knows that the Bengals lost. That's all.

I second that what a win for my beloved Cards especially with how badly Carson looked in the first quarter-those INT's were very bad-receivers never had a chance of catching them. But he settled down after that, and showed that speed kills-might have the two faster WR's in the league and they embrace that. Chris Johnson used to be the fastest RB too. I saw Patrick Peterson was injured in the game-ankle-didn't look too bad, but if he's out for any length of time, the Bengals showed what will happen.

[BillJasper]

Fun to watch an athlete that doesn't know when to let go.

Peyton Manning is absolutely determined to get healthy and to play | ProFootballTalk

[henry296]

Originally Posted by rowech

That's what a real coach would have done. I just don't understand Marvin Lewis at all. He coaches so haphazardly as if nothing bad can happen or if the other team will always play it like he hopes they will.

From everything I read, that was Andy Dalton's decision at the line of scrimmage. The play called in the huddle was either a run or pass based on the defense.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Crazy season for the Chiefs. Started 1-5, have won four straight. Through the first nine games, they have the toughest schedule in the NFL, yet managed a 4-5 record. In the last seven games (including yesterday's game), they have the easiest schedule in the NFL. Couple that with the fact that a Buffalo loss tonight would put them in control of their own destiny, and I'm starting to get a bit excited.

Whether the Chiefs make the playoffs or not, the Charles injury has allowed them to find a couple of gems on the depth chart at the RB position. I think they're also less predictable without Charles in the backfield. Still want him back in the lineup though.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Whether the Chiefs make the playoffs or not, the Charles injury has allowed them to find a couple of gems on the depth chart at the RB position. I think they're also less predictable without Charles in the backfield. Still want him back in the lineup though.

Football is weird. When Charles went down, Robert Mayes on the Grantland podcast went over some numbers that showed that Charles, when healthy, put up some of the best RB numbers of all time on a per-carry basis. He was, by any measure, the most talented player on the Chiefs' offense.

And the team does not miss a beat without him.

What other sport can you lose one of the best players on the team to injury and not have it affect whether you win games?

[flere-imsaho]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

What other sport can you lose one of the best players on the team to injury and not have it affect whether you win games?

Barcelona's done pretty well without Messi this season.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

Just dropping in to make sure everyone knows that the Bengals lost. That's all.

Finding it hard to see what any of the Bengal fans have done on here to get taunted for. The group on here is fairly doom and gloom and respectful as far as I've seen. If you would like to taunt the actual asshole Bengal fans, there are plenty of message boards they hang out on that you can frequent.

Or if this makes you feel good or superior, feel free to keep it up. Whatever works for you, I guess.

[Arles]

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

Barcelona's done pretty well without Messi this season.

I think Neymar and Suarez have a lot to do with their success too Not to mention Real and Barcelona have salaries in the 200 mil range while no other team is over 80. Messi going out is akin to Ohio State when it lost it's QB last year. They have such an advantage at every position over most competitors, one player will rairly completely derail their season.

That's a lot tougher to do in a league with a hard salary cap. KC has been pretty impressive this season - esp given their entire offense was built around Charles.

[NobodyHere]

The AFC South now has as many wins as the NFC East

[Vince, Pt. II]

I'm thinking the AFC South might actually be a bit underrated.

[Suicane75]

I'm not out on Chip Kelly yet. I think he's moving in the right direction, but he has to get a franchise QB, and Bradford isn't it.