2006 (ET/CT Time Zone) Torino Olympics Thread (Spoiler Rules in First Post) - Page 4

Craptacular · 02-12-2006, 09:49 PM

Whatever, I guess I'll just stay out of these altogether then. I'm having a hard enough time avoiding results on every frickin' web site I visit.

DaddyTorgo · 02-12-2006, 09:54 PM

i think you almost have to embrace the results when the olympics are happening overseas. look and see who won, but then focus more on how they got there then the fact that they won. i've already had a couple events spoiled, but i try not to let that ruin my appreciation of their athletic achievements...

ISiddiqui · 02-12-2006, 09:57 PM

Yep.. I mean sports sites like ESPN, CBS Sportsline, etc, have NO interest in keeping you in the dark until you can watch the Olympics on NBC that evening (though for some strange reason NBC's site reveals results before broadcast as well). They want to give you the sports news as soon as it happens.

Eaglesfan27 · 02-12-2006, 11:03 PM

I love the Flying Tomato's seemingly sincere emotion after the win. His attempts to pick up Sasha Cohen were rather humorous as well.

DaddyTorgo · 02-13-2006, 12:12 AM

only problem is there's no english version, but it's self-explanatory really

http://skichallenge.orf.at/challenge...download/#body

sterlingice · 02-13-2006, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Craptacular

Honestly, I think we should keep this one spoiler free. If no one posts in it, then so be it. I've been using the DVR a lot so far, and if nothing else, this could be a thread to see what events I really need to watch without knowing the results.

I meant it as a serious question, tho- if we kill the thread by putting nothing in it, what's the point of having it in the first place? Why even have a thread if there's nothing that can be discussed?

I'm thinking of putting this in the first post and renaming the thread:
"2006 (ET/CT Time Zone) Torino Olympics Thread (Spoiler Rules in First Post)"

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Originally Posted by spoiler 'rules'

"EDIT: Since we've had some discussion about spoilers and the like, here's what I figured would work the best for the most people (unfortunately it doesn't work for everyone so you might need to start your own thread for your chosen purpose).

No spoilers for events may happen before the NBC Eastern/Central broadcast of the event (ie we all know it's tape delayed but some of us try not to see the results until we get to 'see' them).

I know this doesn't work for everyone in the later time zones or the Tivo'ers but Mountain/Western and Tivo'ers can start their own threads. The problem with having a spoiler-free thread is that it likely will have absolutely nothing in it and this is meant as a 'follow along' thread as the events are broadcast to us."

SI

saldana · 02-13-2006, 09:16 AM

SI, that sounds like a great idea. that way we can have actual discussions about stuff that is happening like we did in the womens ice hockey thread, and everyone is warned not to read the thread if they are delayed by their TIVO (like i will be all week)

rkmsuf · 02-13-2006, 09:19 AM

I have a hard time viewing snowboarding as an olympic sport.

saldana · 02-13-2006, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

I have a hard time viewing snowboarding as an olympic sport.

100 pecent agree. i dont think it belongs in the olympics at all, same with the freestyle skiing....not saying that they arent sports or arent hard to do, i just dont think they should be in the olympics AT ALL.

rkmsuf · 02-13-2006, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by saldana

100 pecent agree. i dont think it belongs in the olympics at all, same with the freestyle skiing....not saying that they arent sports or arent hard to do, i just dont think they should be in the olympics AT ALL.

I have nothing against the activity but found myself saying "WTF is this doing in the Olympics."

Do they have Olympic surfing?

Butter · 02-13-2006, 10:34 AM

I know everyone is going to find this incredibly dorky, but I'm actually excited to go home and fire up the curling from my DVR. It only comes once every 4 years, so I'm trying to enjoy as much of it as I can.

Butter · 02-13-2006, 11:27 AM

If I go the rest of my life without hearing the term "fakey to fakey", that would be OK by me.

Eaglesfan27 · 02-13-2006, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

I have a hard time viewing snowboarding as an olympic sport.

Why? Is it because it hasn't been around as some of the other events? Is it because it has been popularized by the X-games? Or is there some other reason? I'm just curious as to what makes it less worthwhile than any of the other subjective sports in the Olympics.

Edit: The 2nd question was supposed to be: Is it because it hasn't been around as long as some of the other events?

rkmsuf · 02-13-2006, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Why? Is it because it hasn't been around as some of the other events? Is it because it has been popularized by the X-games? Or is there some other reason? I'm just curious as to what makes it less worthwhile than any of the other subjective sports in the Olympics.

It's probably irrational but it doesn't seem like there's much competition to it. Dunno, just didn't excite me last night between some of them looking like they were in their pajamas and one guy listening to the ear buds as he performed.

I'm sure they are very talented but again to me it's like Olympic surfing.

Nothing is dumber than syncronized swimming so snowboarders take solice in that.

gstelmack · 02-13-2006, 01:41 PM

I think a strong case could be made for eliminating all "subjective" sports from the olympics. Any sport that requires judges to make an arbitrary call on something that just flies past them doesn't belong. Speed skating is in, figure skating out. Swimming is in, diving is out. Downhill racing is in, Nordic combined (where they get freakin' judged on their skijumping form instead of just how far they go?) is gone.

Just my personal opinion. Not saying the others are not fun to watch or worthy of competing in, just that they are too subjective for judges to decide who is "best".

rkmsuf · 02-13-2006, 01:42 PM

Now why isn't ski jumping just who goes farthest? See that would make sense.

sterlingice · 02-13-2006, 01:58 PM

Opening thread post and thread title have been changed.

SI

sterlingice · 02-13-2006, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gstelmack

I think a strong case could be made for eliminating all "subjective" sports from the olympics. Any sport that requires judges to make an arbitrary call on something that just flies past them doesn't belong. Speed skating is in, figure skating out. Swimming is in, diving is out. Downhill racing is in, Nordic combined (where they get freakin' judged on their skijumping form instead of just how far they go?) is gone.

Just my personal opinion. Not saying the others are not fun to watch or worthy of competing in, just that they are too subjective for judges to decide who is "best".

I'm torn about this. Frankly, I love the "non-subjective" sports a lot more anyways (give me the downhill over figure skating and javelin over gymnastics any day). That said, I'm not sure there'd be enough sports then.

SI

sterlingice · 02-13-2006, 02:03 PM

Ooh! Curling is live on CNBC at 4.

SI

Butter · 02-13-2006, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Ooh! Curling is live on CNBC at 4.

SI

I'd be surprised if it's live, since Torino is something like 6-7 hours ahead of the East Coast.

rkmsuf · 02-13-2006, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

I'd be surprised if it's live, since Torino is something like 6-7 hours ahead of the East Coast.

You can't curl at 10pm? They ain't wussies you know.

sterlingice · 02-13-2006, 03:12 PM

My bad, yeah, it's taped. Still...

Anyways, it's USA vs Finland in the Battle for Earth or somethin'

SI

AnalBumCover · 02-13-2006, 04:04 PM

Fred Rogin is covering Curling?

Celeval · 02-13-2006, 04:33 PM

Nice shot!

Warhammer · 02-13-2006, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gstelmack

I think a strong case could be made for eliminating all "subjective" sports from the olympics. Any sport that requires judges to make an arbitrary call on something that just flies past them doesn't belong. Speed skating is in, figure skating out. Swimming is in, diving is out. Downhill racing is in, Nordic combined (where they get freakin' judged on their skijumping form instead of just how far they go?) is gone.

Just my personal opinion. Not saying the others are not fun to watch or worthy of competing in, just that they are too subjective for judges to decide who is "best".

Amen. Plus, I used to love how back in the good old days, which ever power bloc in the world had more judges in the event, their "side" won.

Eaglesfan27 · 02-13-2006, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Celeval

Nice shot!

Agreed. I'm surprised to find that I'm actually enjoying Curling in the background.

Celeval · 02-13-2006, 05:17 PM

I'm really beginning to not like this stocks guy.

sterlingice · 02-13-2006, 05:23 PM

He seems like the Walton/Madden/Vitale of stocks

SI

RPI-Fan · 02-13-2006, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craptacular

Honestly, I think we should keep this one spoiler free. If no one posts in it, then so be it. I've been using the DVR a lot so far, and if nothing else, this could be a thread to see what events I really need to watch without knowing the results.

A bit ironic you talking about spoilers, isn't it?

I think the two threads should work well -- one for "live" spoilers, this one you can't talk about until it's happened in Eastern/Central TV.

Eaglesfan27 · 02-13-2006, 06:54 PM

That curling match had a surprisingly compelling ending.

Celeval · 02-13-2006, 06:54 PM

That was disappointing... I thought we were positioned very well going into the last couple stones.

Eaglesfan27 · 02-13-2006, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Celeval

That was disappointing... I thought we were positioned very well going into the last couple stones.

Me too. Quite a bit of interesting strategy in the game.

RPI-Fan · 02-13-2006, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Me too. Quite a bit of interesting strategy in the game.

I'm glad I worked the early end of my shift today (7:45am-4:45pm EST instead of 8:45-5:45) and got to see the majority of the match (even though I watched in the background).

I think I'll plan on doing the same the rest of the week.

Does anyone have a link to the men's hockey TV schedule without spoilers (you can't go to the NBC Olympics page without spoiling)?

Eaglesfan27 · 02-13-2006, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

I'm glad I worked the early end of my shift today (7:45am-4:45pm EST instead of 8:45-5:45) and got to see the majority of the match (even though I watched in the background).

I think I'll plan on doing the same the rest of the week.

Does anyone have a link to the men's hockey TV schedule without spoilers (you can't go to the NBC Olympics page without spoiling)?

I don't know the schedule for the same reason. I'm avoiding all websites besides this one, the eNFL, and Gamespot to avoid spoilers. On another note, there were some nasty crashes that NBC just showed during the women's downhill practice runs.

Celeval · 02-13-2006, 07:23 PM

I'm pretty sure that http://www.nbcolympics.com/tv/index.html is spoiler-free.

sterlingice · 02-13-2006, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Celeval

I'm pretty sure that http://www.nbcolympics.com/tv/index.html is spoiler-free.

Yeah, in fact it says at the top:
Don't want to see results? View TV listings directly: NBCOlympics.com/tv

SI

sterlingice · 02-13-2006, 07:31 PM

I can't believe I'm saying this, but that was exciting. Also, my wife said something about this being why she never worries about me having an affair- I was sitting in front of the tv, strangely compelled to watch curling for the past 3 hours.

SI

Eaglesfan27 · 02-13-2006, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

I can't believe I'm saying this, but that was exciting. Also, my wife said something about this being why she never worries about me having an affair- I was sitting in front of the tv, strangely compelled to watch curling for the past 3 hours.

SI

Hehe. What is odd is that Mrs. Eaglesfan as was compelled to watch the Curling as well! She is home sick today, and she watched every minute of the match and was more into it than I was. She kept comparing it to 9 ball which she loves to shoot.

ISiddiqui · 02-13-2006, 07:52 PM

Freaking NBC

The only time they are showing curling so that people who actually have a normal workweek can see it is during the weekends!! Bastards!

edit: WAIT! CNBC is showing it the next few days so I can at least catch a half hour or more! Woot!

sterlingice · 02-13-2006, 08:47 PM

Yeah, that's what we were watching it on- it was the Finland/USA barn burner on CNBC.

SI

SirFozzie · 02-13-2006, 09:14 PM

ah, relay short track speed skating.. otherwise known as Roller Derby with more folks on the ice then your average pond hockey game.

Celeval · 02-13-2006, 09:22 PM

My wife is loving the woman's half-pipe, because they do little dances when they finish.

sterlingice · 02-13-2006, 09:26 PM

Like the Ickey Shuffle for Olympians

SI

SirFozzie · 02-13-2006, 09:29 PM

Gah, I have six things of the WInter Games to watch on my Tivo.. if I get behind, I'll need my entire five day weekend to catch up with em!

Eaglesfan27 · 02-13-2006, 09:39 PM

Joey Cheek was a huge surprise to me. That was cool

Eaglesfan27 · 02-13-2006, 10:16 PM

I feel bad for that poor figure skater (not going to try to butcher her name.) That was a very nasty looking fall.

sterlingice · 02-13-2006, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I feel bad for that poor figure skater (not going to try to butcher her name.) That was a very nasty looking fall.

I heard an oof from my wife in the other room. I've been flipping between that and the KU game and since they went to a human interest story for a couple of minutes, that sounded like a good chance to change stations and watch the last 5 minutes as KU pulled away for their 8th in a row.

Oh, and the reminds me of U-15 and his unspellable name from earlier in curling.

SI

Eaglesfan27 · 02-13-2006, 10:22 PM

Very courageous performance from the young figure skater to finish her routine after that terrible fall.

Celeval · 02-13-2006, 10:34 PM

Absolutely... that looked really bad when it happened. Impressive that they were still able to medal despite the lost points from the toss and the deduction for the fall.

Eaglesfan27 · 02-13-2006, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Celeval

Absolutely... that looked really bad when it happened. Impressive that they were still able to medal despite the lost points from the toss and the deduction for the fall.

Yep. I was suprised at how well they skated once she refocused.

02-12-2006, 09:57 PM	#153
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Craptacular College Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Mad City, WI	Whatever, I guess I'll just stay out of these altogether then. I'm having a hard enough time avoiding results on every frickin' web site I visit.

02-12-2006, 09:54 PM	#152
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	i think you almost have to embrace the results when the olympics are happening overseas. look and see who won, but then focus more on how they got there then the fact that they won. i've already had a couple events spoiled, but i try not to let that ruin my appreciation of their athletic achievements...

02-13-2006, 09:16 AM	#157
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	SI, that sounds like a great idea. that way we can have actual discussions about stuff that is happening like we did in the womens ice hockey thread, and everyone is warned not to read the thread if they are delayed by their TIVO (like i will be all week)

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gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	I think a strong case could be made for eliminating all "subjective" sports from the olympics. Any sport that requires judges to make an arbitrary call on something that just flies past them doesn't belong. Speed skating is in, figure skating out. Swimming is in, diving is out. Downhill racing is in, Nordic combined (where they get freakin' judged on their skijumping form instead of just how far they go?) is gone. Just my personal opinion. Not saying the others are not fun to watch or worthy of competing in, just that they are too subjective for judges to decide who is "best". __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

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sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	My bad, yeah, it's taped. Still... Anyways, it's USA vs Finland in the Battle for Earth or somethin' SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

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Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	That was disappointing... I thought we were positioned very well going into the last couple stones.

02-13-2006, 07:23 PM	#185
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02-13-2006, 07:31 PM	#187
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	I can't believe I'm saying this, but that was exciting. Also, my wife said something about this being why she never worries about me having an affair- I was sitting in front of the tv, strangely compelled to watch curling for the past 3 hours. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 02-13-2006 at 07:31 PM.

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Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Absolutely... that looked really bad when it happened. Impressive that they were still able to medal despite the lost points from the toss and the deduction for the fall.

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