New England Patriots - Page 4

molson · 01-21-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dime

I don't know brady personally, but he certainly comes off as an asshole with quotes like the one I provided above. why did I post it? mostly in response to this. I'm trying to help out the incredulous pats fans see what it's like here on earth with the rest of us.

I knew someone would be able to search for a random quote, which is why I included that disclaimer.

I give up, I'm an asshole. Let's try it - if the Colts win today, it will only be because the Pats had a rash of the flu go through the locker room. Manning will still be a underachieving, overexposed loser. The Bears will destroy him and he'll blame his offensive line.

VPI97 · 01-21-2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

I knew someone would be able to search for a random quote, which is why I included that disclaimer.

lol...how is that a random quote? It was one of the more highly publicized bits of news before the playoffs last year.

molson · 01-21-2007, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by VPI97

lol...how is that a random quote? It was one of the more highly publicized bits of news before the playoffs last year.

If you sought out the quote after I brought it up, that's what I meant by random. If you remembered reading it beforehand, well then, you got me on that point (but I still think others are talking out their asses, and that you could find similar quotes in other teams' press conferences).

st.cronin · 01-21-2007, 06:23 PM

I think every player in the NFL says stuff like that.

VPI97 · 01-21-2007, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

If you sought out the quote after I brought it up, that's what I meant by random. If you remembered reading it beforehand, well then, you got me on that point (but I still think others are talking out their asses, and that you could find similar quotes in other teams' press conferences).

Everyone remembers that quote. It's the basis for all the 'Pats are always saying they're disrespected' jokes that have been made in the past year.

Heck, I don't think it's bad of him to say that...he's gotta say what he's gotta say to motivate his team, after all. But, I just thought it was funny how you dared someone to come up with it, then dismissed it like it was nothing. It fits with the stereotypical Pats fan.

molson · 01-21-2007, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by VPI97

Heck, I don't think it's bad of him to say that...he's gotta say what he's gotta say to motivate his team, after all. But, I just thought it was funny how you dared someone to come up with it, then dismissed it like it was nothing. It fits with the stereotypical Pats fan.

The typical Pats fan concedes the point like I did?

Oh, I forgot I'm an asshole - your team sucks.

cuervo72 · 01-21-2007, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by VPI97

It's less about the fact that the Patriots have a similar history to the Yankees and more about the fact that both Yankee fans and Patriot fans come off as assholes.

Ding.

cuervo72 · 01-21-2007, 06:56 PM

Dola - and that's why SG should be looking at himself here. He's one of the ones to blame. Every article he wrote about the Pats and/or bashing Manning, I grew to dislike the Patriots more.

TroyF · 01-21-2007, 07:32 PM

Clarify something here. . . I said I wanted the Patriots to lose against the Colts because of the fan base. The rest of the time, I really don't give a damn.

The disrespect factor is beyond idiotic. The way the Pats fans talk about Brady and bash Manning is similar to the Yankees fans talking about one of their players (usually Jeter) and shredding on other teams players because they just don't know how to win. (this was past tense of course, now most Yankee fans are actually a little bearable, getting your ass handed to you repeatedly in the playoffs does that to you)

As if the knowing how to win problem is singularly Manning and Brady's. Brady is "clutch" because when he's led his team on big drives, Adam V. has kicked the ball through the uprights. He's clutch because he's playing under the greatest defensive mind of this generation and knows if he puts up 20 points, it's usually more than enough.

Sad thing is, today's game is about what I expected. I don't think Manning has played badly at all. He should have led Wayne a tad more on the one ball that was knocked down. Harrison dropped a 90+ yard TD pass by not adjusting to the ball (a picture perfect throw), and the Pats made Peyton pay with his one poor pass of the afternoon. But the difference in the game is the Colts D giving up 3rd and long repeatedly because they can't get a hand in Brady's face. (outside of the play at the end of the last Patriots drive)

And the Pats once again get lucky in the fumble game with a 50/50 ball ending up their way for a TD. The Colts need a minor miracle now.

stevew · 01-21-2007, 09:42 PM

I am so satisfied right now. Good to see that Belichic is still a bitch, giving the colts absolutely no credit.

beargrowlz · 01-21-2007, 09:52 PM

I think it was Plunkett, then Grogan then Eason, then Eason/Grogan, then Eason/Grogan/Flutie, then Wilson, then Millen/Hodson/Zolak. Then we drafted Drew.

(We drafted Eason before the Dolphins took Marino FWIW).

Anything pre-Plunkett is before my time.

ISiddiqui · 01-21-2007, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Dola - and that's why SG should be looking at himself here. He's one of the ones to blame. Every article he wrote about the Pats and/or bashing Manning, I grew to dislike the Patriots more.

Absolutely 100% on the mark! The SG came across as so smug and so bragging that I can't imagine any Pats fans were made from those columns.

ISiddiqui · 01-21-2007, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

The Colts need a minor miracle now.

I'm hoping we see a lay off of the Manning sucks posts from the NE folks. We'll see.

Buccaneer · 01-21-2007, 10:20 PM

Somehow, I much prefer Boston (and even NY) fans over Chicago fans.

molson · 01-21-2007, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I'm hoping we see a lay off of the Manning sucks posts from the NE folks. We'll see.

There wasn't very many of these before (unless a Brady > Manning post is saying Manning "sucks").

If Pats fans thought Manning truly sucked, they wouldn't dislike him so much. No one hates Aaron Brooks. Believe me, Manning has always been feared in New England.

Neuqua · 01-21-2007, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Somehow, I much prefer Boston (and even NY) fans over Chicago fans.

Any reasons in particular?

Buccaneer · 01-21-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

Any reasons in particular?

Yes but I don't want to offend you. But then again, that's not saying a lot because we out here in the West, esp. fans of California teams, don't view East Coast and Midwest fans very highly. We don't even talk about Southern fans except there's nothing to talk about with baseball.

molson · 01-21-2007, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Somehow, I much prefer Boston (and even NY) fans over Chicago fans.

I really wish we could make the categorization of an entire fan base a boxable offense. It's been rampant around here lately and its utterly ridiculous.

Buccaneer · 01-21-2007, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

I really wish we could make the categorization of an entire fan base a boxable offense. It's been rampant around here lately and its utterly ridiculous.

It's very typically of every single sports-related board and in pre-internet, typical of every single sports discussion on radio, on TV or in print.

st.cronin · 01-21-2007, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

If Pats fans thought Manning truly sucked, they wouldn't dislike him so much. No one hates Aaron Brooks. Believe me, Manning has always been feared in New England.

He has always terrified me. Remember that first Championship game (I think it was 02)? He threw about 4 interceptions, and STILL the Colts almost won the game. I've always thought he was good.

He's still no Tom Brady, though.

Masked · 01-21-2007, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

There wasn't very many of these before (unless a Brady > Manning post is saying Manning "sucks").

If Pats fans thought Manning truly sucked, they wouldn't dislike him so much. No one hates Aaron Brooks. Believe me, Manning has always been feared in New England.

You should talk to some Saints fans

Marathoner · 01-21-2007, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Masked

You should talk to some Saints fans

or some Raider receivers.

molson · 01-21-2007, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

It's very typically of every single sports-related board and in pre-internet, typical of every single sports discussion on radio, on TV or in print.

I don't hear any negative characterizations of entire groups of people on Sports Center, any newspaper, or the sports radio that I listen too.

It's just retarded though. Someone might know 6 or 7 of 30 million+ Patriots or Yankee fans.

I guess it makes the games more fun. It's just annoying when people actually take that stuff seriously.

Buccaneer · 01-21-2007, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

I don't hear any negative characterizations of entire groups of people on Sports Center, any newspaper, or the sports radio that I listen too.

It's just retarded though. Someone might know 6 or 7 of 30 million+ Patriots or Yankee fans.

I guess it makes the games more fun. It's just annoying when people actually take that stuff seriously.

It does (makes the games more fun) and it's been around forever. I don't take sports, in any form, seriously and find it humorous (and sad) the level of sports fanaticism there is.

molson · 01-21-2007, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

It does (makes the games more fun) and it's been around forever. I don't take sports, in any form, seriously and find it humorous (and sad) the level of sports fanaticism there is.

Fair enough, but I think when entire threads are dedicated to the topic, and people use it as the stated reason why they don't like a team, we've reached the level of fanaticism that you (and I) find so sad.

I've lived on both coasts and in between, and everybody's pretty much the same. There's even asshole Boise St. fans.

cuervo72 · 01-21-2007, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

I don't take sports, in any form, seriously

Actually, that would be how I would stereotype West Coast fans.

gstelmack · 01-22-2007, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

I really wish we could make the categorization of an entire fan base a boxable offense. It's been rampant around here lately and its utterly ridiculous.

I kind of agree. One of the reasons I react so strongly in this thread is that when someone says things like Pats fans are arrogant and rude and obnoxious, well, you've just called me arrogant and rude and obnoxious. You're insulting me, so how exactly do you expect me to respond?

Maybe I need to stay out of these threads like I've started avoiding the political threads. Much less stressful to stick around the FOF threads.

Butter · 01-22-2007, 09:04 AM

I bet you Pats fans have never categorized any other group of fans, either.

It's the price of success, deal with it.

Buccaneer · 01-23-2007, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Actually, that would be how I would stereotype West Coast fans.

Generally speaking, of course, that's true. I characterized these fans after a big loss: NY - they get greedy; Boston - they get really angry and bitter; Chicago - they whine and cry; Southern - they play the blame game; Western - they shrug and go onto something else.

Kodos · 01-23-2007, 09:38 PM

I think rooting against a team because of their fans is entirely reasonable. After all, if that team loses, it makes the annoying people unhappy. Which is nice.

Jonathan Ezarik · 01-23-2007, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

I think rooting against a team because of their fans is entirely reasonable. After all, if that team loses, it makes the annoying people unhappy. Which is nice.

That why I root against the SEC.

WelshWizard · 01-23-2007, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

As if the knowing how to win problem is singularly Manning and Brady's. Brady is "clutch" because when he's led his team on big drives, Adam V. has kicked the ball through the uprights. He's clutch because he's playing under the greatest defensive mind of this generation and knows if he puts up 20 points, it's usually more than enough.

So i guess the fact that they get into Field Goal position to win it has nothing to do with Brady???

And Brady plays on defense also??? Wow this guy is good. We did not have a good defense last year at all, i have to say Brady still managed to get us into the playoffs, so i think he has proved himself wether he has a great defense or not.

firebirds · 01-24-2007, 08:57 AM

I think this thread is one of the most perfect examples of human nature, in respect to sports opinion, that I have ever seen.

Buccaneer · 01-24-2007, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by firebirds

I think this thread is one of the most perfect examples of human nature, in respect to sports opinion, that I have ever seen.

Go check out the Vick thread then.

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01-21-2007, 06:23 PM	#154
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I think every player in the NFL says stuff like that. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

01-21-2007, 06:56 PM	#158
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Dola - and that's why SG should be looking at himself here. He's one of the ones to blame. Every article he wrote about the Pats and/or bashing Manning, I grew to dislike the Patriots more. __________________ null Last edited by cuervo72 : 01-21-2007 at 06:57 PM.

01-21-2007, 09:52 PM	#161
beargrowlz High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgia	I think it was Plunkett, then Grogan then Eason, then Eason/Grogan, then Eason/Grogan/Flutie, then Wilson, then Millen/Hodson/Zolak. Then we drafted Drew. (We drafted Eason before the Dolphins took Marino FWIW). Anything pre-Plunkett is before my time. __________________ -Beargrowlz [email protected] TCY Golden Scribe Winner - Bear Goes Home "The measure of a man's real character is what he would do if he knew he would never be found out." --Thomas B. Macaulay

01-22-2007, 09:04 AM	#178
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	I bet you Pats fans have never categorized any other group of fans, either. It's the price of success, deal with it. __________________ My listening habits

01-21-2007, 07:32 PM	#159
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Clarify something here. . . I said I wanted the Patriots to lose against the Colts because of the fan base. The rest of the time, I really don't give a damn. The disrespect factor is beyond idiotic. The way the Pats fans talk about Brady and bash Manning is similar to the Yankees fans talking about one of their players (usually Jeter) and shredding on other teams players because they just don't know how to win. (this was past tense of course, now most Yankee fans are actually a little bearable, getting your ass handed to you repeatedly in the playoffs does that to you) As if the knowing how to win problem is singularly Manning and Brady's. Brady is "clutch" because when he's led his team on big drives, Adam V. has kicked the ball through the uprights. He's clutch because he's playing under the greatest defensive mind of this generation and knows if he puts up 20 points, it's usually more than enough. Sad thing is, today's game is about what I expected. I don't think Manning has played badly at all. He should have led Wayne a tad more on the one ball that was knocked down. Harrison dropped a 90+ yard TD pass by not adjusting to the ball (a picture perfect throw), and the Pats made Peyton pay with his one poor pass of the afternoon. But the difference in the game is the Colts D giving up 3rd and long repeatedly because they can't get a hand in Brady's face. (outside of the play at the end of the last Patriots drive) And the Pats once again get lucky in the fumble game with a 50/50 ball ending up their way for a TD. The Colts need a minor miracle now.

01-21-2007, 09:42 PM	#160
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I am so satisfied right now. Good to see that Belichic is still a bitch, giving the colts absolutely no credit.

01-21-2007, 10:20 PM	#164
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Somehow, I much prefer Boston (and even NY) fans over Chicago fans.

01-23-2007, 09:38 PM	#180
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I think rooting against a team because of their fans is entirely reasonable. After all, if that team loses, it makes the annoying people unhappy. Which is nice.

01-24-2007, 08:57 AM	#183
firebirds n00b Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Noblesville, IN	I think this thread is one of the most perfect examples of human nature, in respect to sports opinion, that I have ever seen.

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