10-12-2005, 09:24 AM | #151 |
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I saw Serenity this weekend despite having never seen the series. I wouldn't call myself a Sci-Fi fan, necessarily, but I thought the movie was pretty good. I wish I would have known about the marathon in September so I could have TiVo'd it. I guess I'll try to have to find the series at Blockbuster or Hollywood Video (fat chance!) since I'm not a member of Netflix Nation.
The day after I saw the movie, I sat down with my kids to watch Toy Story and saw Whedon's name credited as one of the authors of the screenplay. I thought maybe it wasn't the same guy, so I checked IMDB and, sure enough, it is him. In addition to the Buffy/Firefly/Alien stuff, he also helped write TS & several episodes of Roseanne.
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Wow! I just watched all 12 episodes of Firefly in a matter of about 40 hours. Whew! That was fun! Very excellent show and I can't wait to watch the movie now.
I loved the whole premise. Each episode was different, and well, excellent. I especially liked the Hero of Canton!!!! Whew! I'll have to save another weekend to watch them all again soon! |
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12-21-2005, 10:00 PM | #154 |
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Just picked up the DVD (didn't go to the theatre) and I thoroughly enjoyed the movie.
I was disappointed in a few things that were hinted at by HB, and am currently scouring the internet for reasons why Whedon did what he did. Oh, and for the record, I hate(d) buffy the series (loved the movie and Kristy Swanson **tiger growl**).
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Woah. Never heard anyone who loved the Buffy movie but hated the series. Well, I guess there's always someone out there. To save you the trouble Whedon said he did what he did in order to prevent the last 30 minutes of the movie being nothing more than a bunch of noise and violence. Or something along those lines. He wanted to put people on edge and give that last sequence some impact.
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12-21-2005, 11:21 PM | #156 |
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I loved the Firefly series (picked it up on DVD and watched it - missed it when it was initially released) and liked Serenity - a lot. I'm not a typical Wheldon fan, but I'm damn irritated at Fox's ability to find the screwball, intelligent stuff I like (Firefly, AD, Futurama, etc) and then get rid of in favor of the reality show du jour - or a comedy with a laughtrack. Here's hoping the DVD sales make bring back the show a worthwhile option, though I wonder if that thing has long since rolled on.
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12-26-2005, 10:34 PM | #157 |
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Got the DVD for Christmas and was finally able to watch it tonight. The beginning had me a bit nervous, but I enjoyed the movie very much. Could be the fan-boy in me, but I think it got stronger as it progressed. Interesting idea, but I'm trying to figure out how the problem got from the surface of the planet into space...but still, it was a good flick. Anyone know if there are talks of another movie?
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12-27-2005, 12:40 AM | #158 |
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The talk I've heard is that the DVD's are selling very well, and the projections are that the movie will make money in the long run. Not enough to make another movie a real possibility, but enough to keep the nail away from the coffin.
Which is good to hear, because before the DVD hit the shleves Whedon was eluding to the fact that the poor theater showing had sealed Firefly's fate. |
12-27-2005, 10:50 PM | #159 | |
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**SPOILERS BELOW** This is a problem I always had with the Reavers in general. I think the concept is a good one and terrifying and very well executed in the show and movie. I just could never reoncile the Reavers' apparent nature consisting of self-mutilation, cannibalism, rape, murder, etc, etc, etc. and actually being to fly ships and, more importantly, keep ships in the air. Who are the Reaver mechanics? I think the movie did a decent job of explaining it. The Reavers could have gotten off the planet by using ships that were on Miranda. They kill, rape, eat, or whatever everyone on the planet, realize there is no more prey, get in the ships and look for more. Since what caused people to be Reavers was was a reaction to that drug, it's possible that the Reavers are able to think clearly enough to fly ships and maintain them. Once their fight/flight response kicks in (i.e., once they see "prey"), they go all savage and out of control. That seemed to be how they were reacting in space. The main "fleet" was just sort of orbiting out there until Mal shot at one of them. Then they went rabid.
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12-27-2005, 10:54 PM | #160 |
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Me and my longtime female companion went to see this movie a while back (sci fi being her thing, although she hadn't seen the show), and she liked it a lot, so I bought her the Firefly dvd set for xmas.
My opinion is that the show was vastly better than the movie. They should forget about doing a sequel to the movie, and bring back the show. |
12-27-2005, 11:03 PM | #161 | |
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I couldn't agree more. I liked the movie, thought it was good, but loved the show.
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12-27-2005, 11:38 PM | #162 | |
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12-28-2005, 10:58 AM | #163 | |
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**SPOILER BELOW** I just don't see why they don't eat one another. The drug makes the homocidal, or past that. Why wouldn't they attack whomever they came into contact with? |
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12-28-2005, 11:03 AM | #164 |
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My wife asked me that very question - I replied that they must have somehow managed to form a primitive society based on achieving a collective goal (raping/killing). Same answer applies to why cannibalistic tribes don't eat each other, I guess.
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Ive watched a few specials on cannibals, and the impression I recieved was that many cannabalistic tribes do not eat humans for pleasure. Usually it is something very spritual in their beliefs
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12-28-2005, 03:12 PM | #166 | |
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It could be that or something chemical. Since the onset of the madness was a result of a chemical, perhaps the Reavers can sense one another in some fashion, perhaps a smell or something else.
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12-28-2005, 10:09 PM | #167 |
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Well, my impression of the drug was that it drove them past rage into a whole new area of total animal aggression and hate, so I can't visualize how they would let anyone exist in their world, but any of these explinations will work. They just don't sit well with me.
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12-28-2005, 11:20 PM | #168 |
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I think you have to look at their condition as being sort of a "spiritual" exsistence. Look at how they treated the guy-who-was-forced-into-reeverhood in the series. They raped and killed all his shipmates and made him watch so he would experience the aggression and violence to such a degree that he became a reever. Hell they may have even kept some of the chemical to initiate propsective members.
But notice in the movie how River talks about "choice" once or twice when referring to "laying down." I think with the chemical we are talking about something whose aftermath isn't as cause and effect as a simple straightforward poisoning. The Reever exsistence is dedicated to a new lifestyle of total aggression against those and that unlike in their ways, but it doesn't kill all complex thought processes. Reevers were also tearing apart Reevers in the Reever junkyard/armada, so infighting is not nonexsistent apparently. |
12-30-2005, 12:45 PM | #169 |
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SciFi channel is having a Firefly marathon on 1/6, in case anyone wants to catch it.
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As for the Reavers in general, I think they were best left as an unknown. Now that the curtain has been pulled back, they don't have the same creep factor as they did.
Just as in Jaws, the shark was far more scary when all you heard was the dun-dun, dun-dun, dun-dun and saw only the fin. I had the same problem with them (regarding "how they fly the ship, etc") but I was reminded of the wise sage Joel and one line from the theme song from MST3K Quote:
edit: to add It was more fun for me to speculate why they were so fearsome. Why did that kid they rescue mutilate himself after only watching them do their horror? Still, I think their back-story was great. I just preferred them in the unknown column.
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01-02-2006, 03:37 PM | #171 |
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Saw it yesterday - fun movie, good dialog, pretty good F/X for the budget they had (very good camera work IMO) and I thought Kaylee was quite cute and Inara quite sexy. I'll have to add the Firefly shows to my Netflix que...
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01-02-2006, 04:58 PM | #172 |
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Bought the series DVD's - hopiing the support means that the show will go on, so to speak. I really, really wish I had a Neilsen box at this point.
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02-12-2006, 04:53 PM | #173 |
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I haven't seen the movie yet, but this thread made me decide to watch the series on DVD. Great stuff, I'm really loving it. I'm only five episodes in, but last night I watched "Our Mrs Reynolds" and now I am officially in love with Christina Hendricks, aka Saffron. I watched that episode with my fiancee' and I had to be careful not to let her catch me drooling too much...
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Glad to hear you're enjoying it, Jeebs. Saffron is smokin'. You'll be happy to learn there's more of her in the future. If memory serves me correct, IMO the next few episodes ("Out of Gas", "Ariel", and "War Stories") coming up are some of the best!
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02-12-2006, 09:21 PM | #175 |
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I'm also a firefly/serenity fan. One of my favorite sci-fi's behind Dune (far behind). I like the universe more than the star wars universe. Somehow it seems more believable and just downright awesome.
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02-24-2006, 01:33 PM | #176 |
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Bump
- DVD's are on sale for 20 bucks at Walmart. http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...05882375238028 Btw, Sachmo (or anyone else) - what did you think of the comics ? |
02-24-2006, 05:21 PM | #177 | |
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LOL @ Out of Stock!!! I haven't read the comics, and I have to be honest, I'm avoiding them. I just don't need to open that particular pandora's box again. |
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02-25-2006, 11:03 AM | #178 |
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Saw the movie the other night, it made me sad...
I'll post more when I have time.
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< SPOILERS of the comic!!!!>
If you mean the 3-issue mini series, it was good. Felt like I was reading an episode. Helped to know that Inara and Book were off the ship, which was shown in the comics. Also showed the fate of the men with blue hands, and showed a brief shot of the bad guy from the movie. < /SPOILERS of the comic> |
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I know how you feel, Jeebs. I felt the exact same way when I first saw it. I was numb for the last half hour.
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I've avoided reading this thread as best I can.
I'd never seen the show before, and just started watching it this weekend. I'm really regretting the fact that I didn't get into it at the time. It's a terrific show! Solid blend of comedy, sci-fi (which I'm always on-board for), and some western elements. I look forward to finishing the series up and watching the movie. |
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Welcome to the Browncoats! Enjoy.
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Enjoy Saffron...
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03-21-2006, 09:26 AM | #186 |
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Heh. Saffron will use you guys and leave you for dead. Thanks, but I'll take Kaylee.
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Indeed. What a way to go...
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Was anyone else disappointed in Kaylee when they showed her banging the original mechanic in the engine room? Kaylee is supposed to be a good girl, not an interstellar groupie...
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Well, Kaylee's clearly not the "good girl" in that sense- she often talks about needing some attention, and Simon's the bottleneck in that relationship (I'm not going to mention episodes, since CT's probably not finished with the series). She's a good girl in that she's very friendly/nice type. |
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Well, it seems to me that she the kind of girl that wants to be in a relationship before she gets some "attention". She's mentioned how long it's been for her, so I imagine that if she were just looking to get some action Jane would be more than willing to help...
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I just finished Jaynestown (episode 7). At this moment I would say Our Mrs. Reynolds was the best episode (with Saffron), hilarious episode and quite well-acted all-around. |
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Heh - I'm with you. Its probably my favorite as well,though I also like Out of Gas (which is coming up I think) and Jaynestown a lot. There's a cut scene from that on the 4th DVD fyi - apparently, they all loved it, but the episode was already running too long. |
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My favorite episodes, all which come after Jaynestown (I think) are:
"Out of Gas", "Ariel", and "War Stories".
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Not at all. I thought it was classic. Kaylee may come across as innocent, but I never saw her as a "good girl", or intersteller groupie for that matter. She was in the engine room of a spaceship with an oily bo-hunk of a mechanic, it was near perfect for her.
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While, I imagine anyone who still looks at this thread already owns the DVDs, but Amazon is selling the series (Firefly) at half-price at the moment. $24.95
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...v=glance&n=130 If you already have it, it could make a great birthday or Easter or Memorial Day or whatever holiday you can think of gift.
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Well, I finished up the series... It's a great freakin' show. Hearing how badly FOX botched everything relating to it pisses me off. Sometimes it's like networks are actively trying to sink a show.
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