Werewolf XXIII - Lost - Game Over! Survivors win!

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

My 100% Trust List is pretty much the same, with SnDvls and myself added. I think Pennywise is the wrong person to vote for today and will be suspicious of those that vote for him, since he has given cues that, in my mind, clear him.

I am nowhere sold on Raiders Army. Right now, the Blades-RA relationship is very curious to me. I feel like it is possible that RA may have some type of communicating night action that he passed a note to Blade, which would clear him, but I also fear he could be another player with his own agenda.

I remember thinking that you were trustworthy too, but I can't remember why I thought that so I didn't include you on the list.

Can you refresh my memory why I might have trusted you?

And I should have put sndvls on my 100% trust list too.

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Penny is a simple survivor based on the wording of a post he had much earlier in the thread where he said:



The no special role to note is almost exactly the wording of my, hoops, and spleen's PM.

doh. Then UNVOTE PENNYWISESB

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by KWhit

I remember thinking that you were trustworthy too, but I can't remember why I thought that so I didn't include you on the list.

Can you refresh my memory why I might have trusted you?

And I should have put sndvls on my 100% trust list too.

I am a simple survivor, also, but I probably cannot make it 100% clear to you, because, even though I started using the term "simple" in my posts to cue other simple survivors in, I didn't begin doing it until after the cat had been, at least partially, out of the bag.

I left this in post 1811 yesterday:

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I guess that is possible, although some of the guys seem pretty certain that he was a simple villager. Does anyone out there have any type of special ability of note that can confirm or deny this?

But, again, from the last handful of posts, it looks like that cat is now out of the bag as well (even though I didn't realize it at that point).

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Penny is pretty solidly cleared in my eyes.

My 100% Trust List:
KWhit
Spleen (or his replacement)
Hoops
Pennywise

Fairly solid trust:
Raiders Army
Blade (looks like he is probably dead, but....)

WOW I'm not 100% trusted

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by KWhit

I remember thinking that you were trustworthy too, but I can't remember why I thought that so I didn't include you on the list.

Can you refresh my memory why I might have trusted you?

And I should have put sndvls on my 100% trust list too.

nevermind...just floored me I wasn't there.

[path12]

OK, I'll buy the Pennywise thing. I've got that same info in my role (though of course it's way too late to take that at 100% I realize).

So: UNVOTE PENNYWISE

If I take what KWhit is saying then, my initial list looks like:

100% Trust
path12
SnDvls

Good trust
KWhit
Spleen
Pennywise

Leaning good
Swaggs
PackerFan
Desmond

No read
Raiders
Schmidty
Saldana
King
Celeval
Bearcat

My vote will likely go to one of those then.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

WOW I'm not 100% trusted

Details, details.

[KWhit]

Let's look at King. Everyone has been going under the assumption that an other had a vote on him on day 1. It looks to me that that wasn't the case (I have pretty solid trust on all the guys who voted for him). Which leads me to the obvious conclusion that perhaps King is an Other.

Any thoughts?

[Swaggs]

I would like to know a little bit more about PackerFanatic. Anything you would care to tell us (since I think you are putting it out there pretty obviously)?

[Schmidty]

I will never, ever understand why people take into account the fact that someone says "I'm a simple villager and this is basically what my PM said....". What the hell does that prove? Nothing. People will say anything in this game.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

I will never, ever understand why people take into account the fact that someone says "I'm a simple villager and this is basically what my PM said....". What the hell does that prove? Nothing. People will say anything in this game.

Ummm.... Because we got the same PM that was word for word exactly what he said.

Duh.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by path12

Good trust
KWhit
Spleen
Pennywise

What reasoning is there for you to have such trust in them? The pennywise reasoning (KWhit brought it up) about a PM is a skimpy reason as far as I'm concerned.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Ummm.... Because we got the same PM that was word for word exactly what he said.

Duh.

Who's to say that you made that up, or that you're working together?

Duh.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Who's to say that you made that up, or that you're working together?

Duh.

That should be "Who's to say that you didn't make that up".

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

That should be "Who's to say that you didn't make that up".

If that many people are all on the same page, you should be very, very concerned about the number of others.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Who's to say that you made that up, or that you're working together?

Duh.

Have you been reading this thread?

Hoops was the one to lay out the reasons we all believed each other. He was killed soon after that by the Others and was proven to be a survivor. Why would a survivor make that up?

Duh.

[KWhit]

By the way, the "duh" is all in good fun.

[PackerFanatic]

I really am just a simple villager. I have no special powers (sadly) and am just trying to get a feel for the other guys so I don't have a wasted vote tonight.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I guess me being quiet now might be my downfall, so I will do my best to prove I am with you guys. I really don't have a clue as to who we should lynch tonight, as we haven't had too many speak up since the last night action.

WALT!!!!

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Which is exactly why I didn't vote. I lumped a vote in XXI and ended up voting for a villager.

I am a survivor, through and through, and I hope all make the right decisions today. Losing hoops is no good...

I am leaning toward voting for AlanT, but will make my vote for sure tomorrow.

They took my boy!!! *cries*

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Long night action...

They took my boy!!!

Painfully obvious clues (so I don't feel like I am presenting breaking news here).

But the question is why? Inexperienced player, with a potentially useful skill, trying to clear himself (even though he is in no apparent danger) or could he be an other, trying to cause confusion?

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by KWhit

By the way, the "duh" is all in good fun.

I know, I didn't take offense.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Have you been reading this thread?

Hoops was the one to lay out the reasons we all believed each other. He was killed soon after that by the Others and was proven to be a survivor. Why would a survivor make that up?

Duh.

Can you point out the post you're speaking of, as it seems that I missed it.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

What reasoning is there for you to have such trust in them? The pennywise reasoning (KWhit brought it up) about a PM is a skimpy reason as far as I'm concerned.

Because I went back and saw that they were doing this at the beginning of the game. Granted, I could be wrong which is why I didn't say 100%, but frankly so far it matches the only thing that I know to be true in this game, and that is that the phrases they used matches the one I got.

So, while I don't take that at 100%, I do take it as enough to take a look at some other people before them.

Yourself, for example.

[KWhit]

I'm leaving soon and may not make it back on until later on tonight (probably before the lynch, but that's not guaranteed).

Vote Kingfc22

I think I semi-trust everyone who voted for him on day 1, meaning that all the Other votes went over to Mr Wednesday or somewhere else. The only way that's logical is if King is an Other.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Can you point out the post you're speaking of, as it seems that I missed it.

Yeah. Gimme a sec.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Can you point out the post you're speaking of, as it seems that I missed it.

Post 939.

[pennywisesb]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

doh. Then UNVOTE PENNYWISESB

Let me guess RA, your PM said the same thing KWit is talking about?

Right now my main suspects are RA. I don't like that he tried to pile on me right there, I feel pretty confident that KWit had already vouched for me enough times.

[KWhit]

I think we should go after King instead of Raiders. I'm not totally sold on RA yet, but I have a reason to suspect that he is ok.

[PackerFanatic]

Theo nly reason I was trying to defend myself was because someone had mentioned that we should start looking at those who have been quiet, and i haven't exactly been the most vocal of the group, and I wouldn't want you to waste a lynch on a villager.

[KWhit]

And on that note, I gotta go!

Later guys. I'll be back around 7:30 eastern (I think).

[Swaggs]

Vote Saldana

I may change my vote if any evidence presents itself, but right now, he is among my biggest suspects.

I am also very interested to hear more about PackerFanatic. The roleplaying has me very, very curious.

[pennywisesb]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Painfully obvious clues (so I don't feel like I am presenting breaking news here).

But the question is why? Inexperienced player, with a potentially useful skill, trying to clear himself (even though he is in no apparent danger) or could he be an other, trying to cause confusion?

Couldn't anyone who watches the show just throw these comments out there? I just have a hard time trusting him right now because he's been so quiet. He's barely given us anything to consider at this point.

[PackerFanatic]

Not sure what else I can tell ya, Swaggs.

[PackerFanatic]

(BTW, penny, I have never seen the show)

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by pennywisesb

Couldn't anyone who watches the show just throw these comments out there? I just have a hard time trusting him right now because he's been so quiet. He's barely given us anything to consider at this point.

Sure he could, but he has done it at least three times in my very limited search.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Post 939.

Thanks.

I am still skeptical though, since in every other WW game people say "simple villager checking in". EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Regardless, I'm not saying anything bad about you, I'm just saying that that proof isn't as cut-and-dried as it is to you (and to hoops).

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by KWhit

I think we should go after King instead of Raiders. I'm not totally sold on RA yet, but I have a reason to suspect that he is ok.

I tend to agree here. If we clear RA that opens up more options for us, if King is good then we know RA is next.

Saldana you will have to wait until another day.

UNVOTE SALDANA
VOTE KING

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Not sure what else I can tell ya, Swaggs.

I just find it peculiar that you have put those messages in a few of your posts. To me, it appears as if you are either telegraphing to us that you are Michael or you are trying to build an alibi by creating a history that you can refer back to if you come under danger of lynching.

[pennywisesb]

Originally Posted by KWhit

I think we should go after King instead of Raiders. I'm not totally sold on RA yet, but I have a reason to suspect that he is ok.

KWit is at the top of my trust list behind SunDvls so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt here.

Vote KingFC

RA, don't get your hopes up, I'll be looking at you very carefully tomorrow when deciding who to vote....

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

(BTW, penny, I have never seen the show)

If you've never seen the show, how do you know the catch-phrases? Even if you are Walt's dad (can't think of his name), I highly doubt that AE would be feeding you things to say in PMs.

[SnDvls]

dola - should also add we still have very good numbers even if you don't believe Desnudo is an other, but we need to get information tonight or we'll soon be out of options.

[SnDvls]

Kwhit - what are you feelings towards Desmond? good, bad?

[pennywisesb]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

If you've never seen the show, how do you know the catch-phrases? Even if you are Walt's dad (can't think of his name), I highly doubt that AE would be feeding you things to say in PMs.

Good catch Schmidy. I'm interested in hearing his response as well.

[SnDvls]

dola - also Saldana

[pennywisesb]

*Schmidty, my bad

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Thanks.

I am still skeptical though, since in every other WW game people say "simple villager checking in". EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Regardless, I'm not saying anything bad about you, I'm just saying that that proof isn't as cut-and-dried as it is to you (and to hoops).

The key phrase here is "simple survivor," not "simple villager."

[PackerFanatic]

I am Michael, I am just like you guys.

[pennywisesb]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

If you've never seen the show, how do you know the catch-phrases? Even if you are Walt's dad (can't think of his name), I highly doubt that AE would be feeding you things to say in PMs.

PackerFanatic, Please answer the above question instead of just telling us you are Michael.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

The key phrase here is "simple survivor," not "simple villager."

Same thing. When we were in the spawn game, they checked in as "simple soldiers". In the Chuck Norris game, they checked in as "simple samurai". It happens in every game, and I always rag on people for it.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by pennywisesb

PackerFanatic, Please answer the above question instead of just telling us you are Michael.

Yeah, this is wierd.

[PackerFanatic]

My fiance watches the show a lot and tells me about it a lot, I told her about this game and told her who my character was. She said it would be funny to do that. Simply harmless fun.