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Old 12-02-2017, 07:55 PM   #1901
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It was the best of JT Barrett, it was the worst of JT Barrett.
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Old 12-02-2017, 07:56 PM   #1902
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The Wiscy secondary is WAY slower than the OSU receivers.
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:11 PM   #1903
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:18 PM   #1904
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Man, this Wisconsin defense is great.
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:20 PM   #1905
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The question of whether the Big 10 West had great defenses or terrible offenses is being answered rather clearly.
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:26 PM   #1906
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OR it could be a matchup issue in which Ohio State probably has the fastest team in the nation while Wisconsin while disciplined and tough on defense doesnt have the speed to match Ohio State. Probably another overreaction like is common in this thread.
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:28 PM   #1907
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Or it could be that Wisconsin played a pathetic schedule in the weak half of a weak conference and they aren't actually better than a barely top 40 team.
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:32 PM   #1908
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OR it could be a matchup issue in which Ohio State probably has the fastest team in the nation while Wisconsin while disciplined and tough on defense doesnt have the speed to match Ohio State. Probably another overreaction like is common in this thread.

Oklahoma held OSU to 16 points and 350 yards. So were the Big 10 fans overreacting to how bad their defense is?
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:33 PM   #1909
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Or it could be that Wisconsin played a pathetic schedule in the weak half of a weak conference and they aren't actually better than a barely top 40 team.

Stop.
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:34 PM   #1910
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Seems like exactly the kind of kid Franklin wants.

Good one!

Don't forget about Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, LSU, Georgia, Michigan, Florida State, Michigan State, Wisconsin, NC, Iowa or any of the other remaining 21 schools that also wanted him enough to extend a scholarship offer.

Penn State pulled his offer so I guess they didn't want him that bad after all.
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:39 PM   #1911
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Good one!

Don't forget about Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, LSU, Georgia, Michigan, Florida State, Michigan State, Wisconsin, NC, Iowa or any of the other remaining 21 schools that also wanted him enough to extend a scholarship offer.

Penn State pulled his offer so I guess they didn't want him that bad after all.

Tell that to the Franklin kids at Vandy that are still in jail. He's a POS and exactly what State Penn deserves.
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:41 PM   #1912
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Stop.

First good team they've played all year and they've give up 270 yards and 21 points before halftime.

The Wisconsin schedule was weak for the AAC.
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:42 PM   #1913
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Oklahoma held OSU to 16 points and 350 yards. So were the Big 10 fans overreacting to how bad their defense is?

I have no idea how much Big 10 fans were overreacting.(Did they even care that much about Oklahoma's defense?) Oklahoma's defense in the middle of the season was pathetic, they have improved from that.

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Old 12-02-2017, 08:45 PM   #1914
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Probably another overreaction like is common in this thread.

How dare you bring common sense into a grotesque display of illogic and naked emotionalism?

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Old 12-02-2017, 09:07 PM   #1915
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Wisconsin's defensive injuries finally catching up to them at safety. Make the tackles and dunno what the score would be..

We are a second half team so we will see what's up.
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Old 12-02-2017, 09:10 PM   #1916
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Glad GA won which means an increased chance of Gus considering AR.

With OSU beating Wisconsin, I would hope for GA and AL in top 4.
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Old 12-02-2017, 09:32 PM   #1917
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Glad GA won which means an increased chance of Gus considering AR.

With OSU beating Wisconsin, I would hope for GA and AL in top 4.

One of our planes landed in Memphis a hour or two ago. The question is (1) Norvell (2) Saxton {Agent of Gus} (3) BBQ.
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Old 12-02-2017, 09:33 PM   #1918
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I would be happy with Gus or up-and-coming Norvell.
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Old 12-02-2017, 09:40 PM   #1919
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I'm completely biased but how was that not roughing the kicker?
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Old 12-02-2017, 09:41 PM   #1920
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I like Norvell, but I want to see him do it without Fuente's guys.

Novell is a good young coach. But I'm not sure he has demonstrated the roster management or recruiting chops to deserve an SEC HC spot.
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Old 12-02-2017, 09:45 PM   #1921
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I like Norvell, but I want to see him do it without Fuente's guys.

Novell is a good young coach. But I'm not sure he has demonstrated the roster management or recruiting chops to deserve an SEC HC spot.

I would take the risk. He would/should come cheaper than Gus.
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Old 12-02-2017, 09:51 PM   #1922
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I'm not sold on Gus and his lunatic wife.
Maybe best OC in the nation, mediocre HC.

I'll say it again, Mike Leach is the PEFECT fit for Arkansas. I think he'd win an SEC title at least there.
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Old 12-02-2017, 09:54 PM   #1923
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One of our planes landed in Memphis a hour or two ago. The question is (1) Norvell (2) Saxton {Agent of Gus} (3) BBQ.

Just caught up on that AR forum thread. Checked out the Memphis Tigers thread also. Some confusion if both threads are relying on each other and possibly just reinforcing BS.

I hope we'll know pretty soon either way Gus-Norvell-lost both, tired of not knowing.
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Old 12-02-2017, 09:56 PM   #1924
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I'll say it again, Mike Leach is the PEFECT fit for Arkansas. I think he'd win an SEC title at least there.

Don't know much about Leach but I'll take pretty anyone that doesn't do run-left, run-right, run-straight. Defense may win the big games but I like fun offenses ala Petrino.
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Old 12-02-2017, 10:09 PM   #1925
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I'm not sure I've ever seen the turf rip up like in the OSU/Wiscy game.
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Old 12-02-2017, 10:10 PM   #1926
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I'm not sure I've ever seen the turf rip up like in the OSU/Wiscy game.

Yeah, that's weird.

BTW - I'm glad Wiscy is keeping it close.
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Old 12-02-2017, 10:12 PM   #1927
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Don't think I've ever seen a field get broken during the game.
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Old 12-02-2017, 10:13 PM   #1928
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Does OSU consider switching QBs? Barrett is 10/23, he's completed 1 pass more than 15 yards downfield, he's missed 3-4 wide open TD passes, and they still have nearly 400 yards.
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Old 12-02-2017, 10:16 PM   #1929
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This is OSU's season condescend into 1 game. So frustrating.

Can this poor guy get some help out there?
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Old 12-02-2017, 10:16 PM   #1930
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Does OSU consider switching QBs? Barrett is 10/23, he's completed 1 pass more than 15 yards downfield, he's missed 3-4 wide open TD passes, and they still have nearly 400 yards.

He's also had about 4 WR drops.
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Old 12-02-2017, 10:17 PM   #1931
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That poor guy trying to fix the endzone turf.

You wouldn't think they could fix it well enough where it would be "safe" or wouldn't be torn up on the very next play. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
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Old 12-02-2017, 10:19 PM   #1932
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He's also had about 4 WR drops.

Yeah, a couple of those as well.
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Old 12-02-2017, 10:38 PM   #1933
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Or it could be that Wisconsin played a pathetic schedule in the weak half of a weak conference and they aren't actually better than a barely top 40 team.

And this kind of statement is why your bookie and bitcoin are hottest investments right now.

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Old 12-02-2017, 10:48 PM   #1934
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Barrett is playing poorly. Has he been this inaccurate all season?

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Old 12-02-2017, 10:49 PM   #1935
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Another terrible pass by Barrett. Both INTs were his fault, he missed several open TD passes, and with a chance to put the game away he misses an easy pass into the flat. OSU has dominated and Barrett's misses and INTs have kept it close.
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Old 12-02-2017, 10:55 PM   #1936
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I have never seen a QB as terrible as Hornibrook.
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Old 12-02-2017, 11:02 PM   #1937
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Barrett didn't play too well, but shit, wasn't even sure he would play. People already forgot he did have minor surgery and has a bum knee?? Anyway, glad to see JT get to actually PLAY in the BIG Champ game and win. Highs and lows, but he has had a hell of a career and I will miss him after his next game or possibly 2 games. He battles and that isnt up for debate.

I'll leave this here:

1)Clemson
2)Oklahoma
3)Georgia
4).........OSU

Sorry Bama, you dont deserve it and they arent taking 2 teams from the same conference...yet.

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Old 12-02-2017, 11:02 PM   #1938
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I have never seen a QB as terrible as Hornibrook.

Yup, not a great game flow for Wisky when he has to throw 40 passes.
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Old 12-02-2017, 11:10 PM   #1939
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I'm happy the Badgers avoided 59-0. OSU had the clear talent edge and without a few boners by Barrett it's probably not close. But that's why they play the game. I won't hate on Hornibrook. He makes mistakes and you can't have him throwing 40 times, but he's a sophomore that can someday aspire to be Joel Stave.

Congrats to the OSU fans on here.
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Old 12-02-2017, 11:48 PM   #1940
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I don't understand how anyone would consider OSU at 4. Alabama's only loss was to Auburn and OSU barely beats a team that everyone ripped for not playing anyone. Has everyone forgotten the OSU-Iowa game?
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Old 12-02-2017, 11:52 PM   #1941
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I don't understand how anyone would consider OSU at 4. Alabama's only loss was to Auburn and OSU barely beats a team that everyone ripped for not playing anyone. Has everyone forgotten the OSU-Iowa game?

Alabama hasn't beaten anyone.
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Old 12-03-2017, 12:03 AM   #1942
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I don't understand how anyone would consider OSU at 4. Alabama's only loss was to Auburn and OSU barely beats a team that everyone ripped for not playing anyone. Has everyone forgotten the OSU-Iowa game?

Did Alabama really get challenged this year? Yes, once. And they lost to Auburn.

Ohio State has two top 10 wins, and three wins better than Alabama's best win.

Alabama also suffers from having their marquee out of conference win end up not looking very good.

But we'll see.
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Old 12-03-2017, 12:05 AM   #1943
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I don't understand how anyone would consider OSU at 4. Alabama's only loss was to Auburn and OSU barely beats a team that everyone ripped for not playing anyone. Has everyone forgotten the OSU-Iowa game?

Before we get to loss, we have to get to who did they beat.
Otherwise ucf had a better loss than bama
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Old 12-03-2017, 06:47 AM   #1944
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Gonna guess Clemson would much rather play OSU. And that kind of gives you where I’d go with this one.
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Old 12-03-2017, 06:50 AM   #1945
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I vote for Alabama at #4 and give them the benefit of doubt.

OSU slipped in over conference champion Penn State last year so this thing about conference champions is lessened.

TBH, I feel sorry most for Auburn. They had a fantastic year but just came up short against GA.


Some humor similar to what's going on at all the College football forums.

http://collegefootballnews.com/2017/...yoff-no-4-spot

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Old 12-03-2017, 07:47 AM   #1946
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Isn’t this the year to reward UCF for an undefeated season before taking a two loss team? I know it’s about money so they aren’t getting in over OSU or Bama but when does a power conference team get eliminated? 3 losses? 4 losses?
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Old 12-03-2017, 08:12 AM   #1947
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I was really impressed with how the Scott Frost departure from UCF was handled by both sides. I am sure the win helped with the reactions of all, but it was cool to see nonetheless. It is possible for a coach to leave a program without ducking the players and it is possible for the players to see a coach leave a program with out disrespecting the coach that gave them an opportunity at the school.
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Old 12-03-2017, 08:14 AM   #1948
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Isn’t this the year to reward UCF for an undefeated season before taking a two loss team? I know it’s about money so they aren’t getting in over OSU or Bama but when does a power conference team get eliminated? 3 losses? 4 losses?

Whenever it stops being about the money.
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Old 12-03-2017, 08:15 AM   #1949
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Did Alabama really get challenged this year? Yes, once. And they lost to Auburn.

Ohio State has two top 10 wins, and three wins better than Alabama's best win.

Alabama also suffers from having their marquee out of conference win end up not looking very good.

But we'll see.

BS. Ohio State has 0 wins against actual good teams. Their "top 10" wins are against teams that also played and beat nobody. OSU lost by 15 at home to their only really good opponent. Wisconsin isn't a top 10 team in any version of reality. PSU didn't play anyone and lost a couple of games. MSU played one decent team, ND, and got blown out.

USC has as much claim at OSU. Bama and Auburn both have a better argument. The real debate should be UCF and Bama since the AAC was better than the B1G this year.

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Old 12-03-2017, 08:18 AM   #1950
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Gonna guess Clemson would much rather play OSU. And that kind of gives you where I’d go with this one.

I agree with you that Clemson would prefer OSU. The weird thing is that I think Ohio State would match up really well against Alabama.
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