2023 NFL Regular Season Thread

[GrantDawg]

The Falcons about have a press conference. The GM is not being included. It is pretty clear that his job is not guaranteed at this point. If they go Belichick or Harbaugh, he will probably be canned.

[miked]

I'd cut Jameis on principle.

[bob]

I'm not a Falcons fan, but pay attention because they are the local team. I can't decide if Belichick or Harbaugh would be more entertaining.

[albionmoonlight]

The Saints are severely restricted in who they can cut and who they can keep b/c so many contracts have dead money.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by bob

I'm not a Falcons fan, but pay attention because they are the local team. I can't decide if Belichick or Harbaugh would be more entertaining.

Harbaugh would be the most entertaining. I just don't see how he fits there at all, and it would be explosive.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

I think Winston is a free agent anyway.

Yes and no.

He had a weird deal that was due to expire in March, but it was restructured a couple of days ago. He still seems likely to be gone but what changes is the timeline which impacts their potential dead money hit.

I'll leave the detailed explanation to the article I read yesterday
Jameis Winston restructures his contract with the Saints for 2024

[RainMaker]

Well the Saints are a creative bunch. Gotta give them that.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Well the Saints are a creative bunch. Gotta give them that.

Yeah, they seem to go into every offseason being 75 million dollars over the cap yet somehow manage to fit under the cap when the next season starts.

Ok I just checked and they are only 72 million over.

[miami_fan]

Do we have enough candidates for all these HC jobs? Feels like it's Ben Johnson and then...?

I don't look at Belichick as a candidate. If he is not coaching in NE, he gets to pick his job.

[Ksyrup]

Aaron Glenn.

[RainMaker]

Bobby Slowik seems like a top candidate considering what he did with Stroud and his connection to Shannahan.

[Brian Swartz]

Enough candidates, definitely - there's nearly an infinite supply of them. Enough *good* candidates? There never are.

[JPhillips]

I don't know how much buzz he has this year, but I expect Brian Callahan is going to get multiple opportunities.

[Swaggs]

It would be outstanding if Lane Kiffen somehow went back to the NFL and set off a chain reaction of college job movement.

[GrantDawg]

Harbaugh, Johnson, Slowick, Flores, Brian Johnson, Todd Monken, Frank Smith, Dan Quinn

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[GrantDawg]

I had heard Monken had said he wasn't interested in being a head coach, but he is taking interviews with the Panthers and the Chargers.

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[JonInMiddleGA]

I haven't looked this up but apparently today in response to a tweet about the Falcons opening & odds for candidates, Lane Kiffin tweeted that his choice for the job was @KirbySmart

Okay, I still got major issues with Kiffie but that actually amused me

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I haven't looked this up but apparently today in response to a tweet about the Falcons opening & odds for candidates, Lane Kiffin tweeted that his choice for the job was @KirbySmart

Okay, I still got major issues with Kiffie but that actually amused me

Kirby ought to respond by saying Kiffin is up for the OC job for the Panthers.

[Carman Bulldog]

Jameis has to be one of my low key favourite QB's to watch. That doesn't mean he's a good QB and I would hate if he was the QB for a team I actively rooted for. But damn he's entertaining. Objectively, I know that the Saints were better with Carr but so much more interesting to watch with Jameis.

[Carman Bulldog]

Random guesses for HC replacements:

Panthers - Dave Canales (alternate Brian Callahan)
Raiders - Antonio Pierce (alternate Jim Harbaugh)
Chargers - Jim Harbaugh (alternate Ben Johnson)
Commanders - Belichick (alternate Dan Quinn)
Falcons - Bobby Slowik (alternate Ben Johnson)

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by Carman Bulldog

Jameis has to be one of my low key favourite QB's to watch. That doesn't mean he's a good QB and I would hate if he was the QB for a team I actively rooted for. But damn he's entertaining. Objectively, I know that the Saints were better with Carr but so much more interesting to watch with Jameis.

co-sign

[stevew]

It never really matters who coaches the Falcons. They should go after Wayne Fontes

[GrantDawg]

Mike Vrabel is resigning at Tennessee. That's makes him among the top candidates available. It also makes you wonder if he is planning to take over for Belichick in New England.

[molson]

Interesting that Vrabel and Belichick both survived black Monday. Coaches aren't fired after Monday very often these days. Definitely feels like that all could have been connected behind the scenes.

[Ksyrup]

I'm seeing that he was fired. Resigned would add a bit more meaning/context if true, not just a "six of one, half dozen of the other" situation.

[CrimsonFox]

I kind of agree with Gronk. Belli not going anywhere. Mob bosses get to be wherever they want

[albionmoonlight]

When you fire a coach, and every fanbase with a vacancy instantly starts talking about how they hope they get him, that's a sign that maybe you shouldn't have fired that coach.

I'm not sure Tennessee knows what it is doing.

[QuikSand]

any one of these teams with a coach vacancy should be falling over themselves to line up their mandatory Rooney Rule interview, talk to Vrabel, and hire him immediately

including the dumbass Titans, obv

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

any one of these teams with a coach vacancy should be falling over themselves to line up their mandatory Rooney Rule interview, talk to Vrabel, and hire him immediately

including the dumbass Titans, obv

lol the team that fired him should interview him for their vacancy? hahahaha

[stevew]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

any one of these teams with a coach vacancy should be falling over themselves to line up their mandatory Rooney Rule interview, talk to Vrabel, and hire him immediately

including the dumbass Titans, obv

Yeah it’s a puzzling move for sure. I can’t believe how badly they misplayed the situation. Surely they would have received something via trade for him.

[molson]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

lol the team that fired him should interview him for their vacancy? hahahaha

That reminds me of years ago when Syracuse fired Greg Robinson, who then formally applied for the head coach vacancy under whatever internal process Syracuse had to follow to make that call.

Not sure if he got an interview though.

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

lol the team that fired him should interview him for their vacancy? hahahaha

deliberately put

if the guy you just fired is the best candidate for your open job, you fucked it man

[GrantDawg]

It was a "mutual decision." Just a few weeks ago the ownership group was talking about Vrabel being in their long-term plans. Something happened to change that.

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[RainMaker]

I wonder how much he wanted to stay. They kind of screwed him with the AJ Brown trade and never giving him a competent QB. That's a guy who took a turd sandwich and made something of it.

[CrimsonFox]

let's face it... there are many places better than tennessee to be

[stevew]

Tennessee claims that it was too hard to trade Vrabel and they didn’t want to be 3 weeks behind on the hiring process.

Sure thing guys.

[CrimsonFox]

what the what? Since when can you TRADE a coach

[GrantDawg]

I think he wanted more control and they refused to give it to him. He was "fired" but he wasn't staying anyway unless they gave him what he wanted.

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[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

what the what? Since when can you TRADE a coach

Well at least since Belichek was traded for a 1st round pick in 2000.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

what the what? Since when can you TRADE a coach

1970
Coach involved: Don Shula
Compensation: Miami Dolphins trade first-round pick to Baltimore Colts
Result: Shula helped Miami win two Super Bowls in 1972 and 1973, including the NFL's only perfect season in league history

1997

Coach involved: Bill Parcells
Compensation: New York Jets trade first-, second-, third- and fourth-round picks to New England Patriots
Result: Parcells' Jets went to the playoffs once in three seasons, losing in the AFC Championship in 1998

1999

Coach involved: Mike Holmgren
Compensation: Seattle Seahawks trade second-round pick to Green Bay Packers
Result: Seattle made the playoffs six times under Holmgren, including a Super Bowl appearance during the 2005 season

2000

Coach involved: Bill Belichick
Compensation: Patriots trade first-, fourth- and fifth-round pick to Jets
Result: Belichick has spent the past 23 seasons in New England, winning six Super Bowls along the way

2002

Coach involved: Jon Gruden
Compensation: Tampa Bay Buccaneers trade two first-round picks and $8 million to Oakland Raiders
Result: Gruden won the Super Bowl in his very first season leading the Bucs and departed in 2008

2006

Coach involved: Herm Edwards
Compensation: Kansas City Chiefs trade fourth-round pick to Jets
Result: Edwards went a dismal 15-33 in seasons as the Chiefs' HC before being fired

2019
Coach involved: Bruce Arians
Compensation: Buccaneers trade sixth-round pick to Arizona Cardinals
Result: Arians went on to win the Super Bowl in his second season at the helm, retired in 2021 after his second postseason appearance with Tampa Bay

2023
Coach involved: Sean Payton
Compensation: Denver Broncos trade first- and third-round pick to New Orleans Saints
Result: TBD

[Carman Bulldog]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Well at least since Belichek was traded for a 1st round pick in 2000.

According to this, there have been eight NFL head coaches traded, although some of these could certainly be classified more as retroactive compensation than a trade.

I remember Gruden being one of the big ones, and then Payton last year. I don't think I even realized that Herm Edwards and Bruce Arians were traded.

[Danny]

Wow trading for coaches outside of Herm Edwards has been extremely successful.

[stevew]

Can’t embed a tweet but-

“The Titans believed trading Vrabel was too complicated and would take too long, per sources. They wanted to move on quickly. I was told Vrabel never asked ownership for a trade or asked out of Tennessee.”


Also they didn’t want to be near the end of the line or somesuch.

Like what’s the worst thing that happens, you allow Vrabel to find a trade -or- if not, you’re still stuck with one of the better coaches in the league?

[Brian Swartz]

My question is why they didn't want to just keep him, since it seems not long ago that is what they wanted.

[miami_fan]

The devil does not need an advocate but if he did the advocate might say that only eight coaches have been with the same team longer that Vrabel's time with the Titans. Six have won at least one Super Bowl, another has made it to a Super Bowl. The final coach is Sean McDermott.

The current GM who just came in a year ago did not hire him. The team will be transitioning away from a Derrick Henry led offense to a Will Levis led offense. I am not sure Vrabel should have been fired but I can understand why he and the Titans both might want a fresh start.

[RainMaker]

Are the Bears seriously keeping Eberflus?

[rjolley]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Are the Bears seriously keeping Eberflus?

It's still early. Let's all calm down. No one is getting hired just yet.

With that said, if they bring back Getsy, I say we all go to Halas and riot.

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

Keeping Eberflus is the right move.

7-10 record with a subpar qb is not easy in the modern nfl.

In addition, what was the expected win total for the Bears before the season started? 7 wins feels about right. Get the qb situation figured out and this is a playoff team.

[JPhillips]

Brian Callahan with three interviews so far, Titans, Chargers, and Panthers. I'd be surprised if he isn't a HC soon.

[GrantDawg]

I get the feeling that the Panthers is hiring whoever says yes.

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