06-07-2006, 07:35 PM | #1851 |
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Well, good news and bad news.
The bad news is my car wasn't quite repaired properly, and so I'm without it for one more day. The good news is, I'm in for the evening. unvote Tyrith Gonna catch up on what, if anything, happened while I was out. |
06-07-2006, 07:36 PM | #1852 |
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No, a 4-4 tie is perfectly fine with me. I've been pushing for that all day.
I have good confidence in that case I won't die. And if someone tries to pull any funny stuff by changing votes last minute, you have an easy vote the next day. |
06-07-2006, 07:36 PM | #1853 |
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Saldana, Barkeep - now that Warlord is gone can you share the part of your role that prompted you guys to give a code including "Vince Young" and "Tony Mandarich"?
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06-07-2006, 07:37 PM | #1854 |
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I dunno, the tie plan is preferrable to just killing me. If I'm going to die anyway, I'd at least like to test Alan's honesty.
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06-07-2006, 07:39 PM | #1855 | |
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Is that the way we're headed, then? Establish a tie and test Alan? If so, what's the current count? |
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06-07-2006, 07:40 PM | #1856 | |
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Here is a post that suggest Cronin may have been the alpha - Post #830:
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Now at this point he had not revealed that he was the seer ... but he has never taken credit for playing a role in Blade's Night 1 protect (this is Day 3 - he reveals seer at start of Day 4). |
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06-07-2006, 07:41 PM | #1857 |
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Votes as of Post #1856:
Schmidty - Saldana (1790) Tyrith - AlanT (1774), Lathum (1801), Barkeep (1813) AlanT - Tyrith (1830), Hoopsguy (1843) No votes - Sack, Schmidty |
06-07-2006, 07:41 PM | #1858 | |
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Hoops, before they do that, maybe there is still some way they can test Sackattack? It sounds to me that all of the normal wolves got the same PM. If Sack is a normal wolf as he says, maybe there is a way we can put him on the spot with this? I have no idea what they mean by anything, but just a thought.. maybe its too late though.. but Ardent sure didnt jump on their going back and forth. I want to make sure it was just because he was preoccupied and Sack has been trying to catch up rather than them trying to pull a fast one on us. |
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06-07-2006, 07:44 PM | #1859 |
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Dola, even though Coffee ended up exactly what he said he was and never caught on to their going back and forth...
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06-07-2006, 07:45 PM | #1860 |
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If Lathum doesn't come clean about his role soon I suggest someone put pressure on him, this is getting a little silly.
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06-07-2006, 07:49 PM | #1861 |
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06-07-2006, 07:50 PM | #1862 |
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So much for that theory!
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06-07-2006, 07:50 PM | #1863 |
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Post #850: Day 3, Tyrith moves his vote from me to Anxiety less than an hour before deadline to create some run-off between Anxiety (henchman) and Path (died as a wolf).
Post #851: Cronin calls on Barkeep to force a tie, generate some movement Post #852: Barkeep declines, saying Path is his top suspect with Anxiety behind him Post #863: Saldana states he is leaving his vote on Schmidty one minute before deadline (would not have mattered, as final margin was 5-3). During this day Barkeep was pretty vocal about looking for ways to back both Blade and I, despite our conflicting stories. Unlike Cronin (or perhaps Lathum?) he does not have a role that would allow him to know this. |
06-07-2006, 07:55 PM | #1864 |
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VOTE TOM BRADY
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06-07-2006, 07:56 PM | #1865 |
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If the first vote and first lynch don't count unvotes:
First vote - Saldana First voted for - Alan If they do: First vote - Alan First voted for - Tyrith Currently: Most votes - Tyrith Least votes - schmidty |
06-07-2006, 07:57 PM | #1866 |
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And we've shafted schmidty into having final vote privileges again. Otherwise, the last vote is hoops, for alan.
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06-07-2006, 08:00 PM | #1867 |
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No one is shafting Schmidty - it is his perogative to wait until the last hour to cast the vote. But yeah, by doing so he continues to have a little more pressure than the rest of us.
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06-07-2006, 08:03 PM | #1868 | ||
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Anxiety Post #676:
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Post #682: Quote:
Post #886: Blade, Lathum, Cronin, Saldana, Hoopsguy mentioned. 2 known good (night kills), me, one non-wizard, and Lathum. Post #900: Saldana calls out Anxiety at the end of Day 3. Another good mark in his book. Will continue on this list of posts that catch my fancy, but wanted to get it up for people to react to, rather than keep a running total and enter a monster post ten minutes before the deadline. |
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06-07-2006, 08:06 PM | #1869 |
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So far, in the post I have reviewed Anxiety has not commented on Sack, Schmidty, Tyrith, and Barkeep (among people still alive).
Tyrith did try to apply pressure on Day 3, although it is easier to do that if you feel like you can move votes away from him later as part of a team. But he has not consistently pointed to these posts as a defense, which makes it seem a little more genuine to me. |
06-07-2006, 08:08 PM | #1870 |
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Mainly on day 3 I came to the excessively late conclusion, between the fact that path and AE didn't seem connected and because of blade, that path wasn't bad, and I was trying to do stir up something that would be useful later.
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06-07-2006, 08:12 PM | #1871 |
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hoops, with no idea what the voting law is, do you think i should keep my vote on schmdty or move it to alan to generate the tie?
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06-07-2006, 08:14 PM | #1872 |
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Saldana, I think we have the least chance for a bad result with a 4-4 tie between those two.
Neither has been vouched for, both have confessed to relatively small roles. |
06-07-2006, 08:14 PM | #1873 |
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Those two = AlanT and Tyrith.
Has there been a clarification on zero votes counting for "least votes"? |
06-07-2006, 08:15 PM | #1874 |
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Let me go back and look, but I think our consensus was that it has to at least be 1 vote
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06-07-2006, 08:18 PM | #1875 | |
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1554 and 1555 were where fozzie answered questions about change of voting rules, but he sidestepped the question about if 0 counts. I think Cronin's interpretation was it was least of the people with votes that day in 1556 |
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06-07-2006, 08:18 PM | #1876 |
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Vote Tyrith
And so it's up to Schmidty and saldana if we're going the tie route. |
06-07-2006, 08:20 PM | #1877 |
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Saldana put your vote on me to make it 4-3. If Schmidty doesnt show up by 10, I'll remove my vote and vote no one to make it a 3-3 tie.
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06-07-2006, 08:22 PM | #1878 | ||
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Anxiety, Post #977:
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Alan and Tyrith, in quick succession, vote for Anxiety. Barkeep follows with a vote for him later, following a couple of lengthy analysis posts. Anxiety gives his fake reveal at Post #1091. Think I'm done looking at this for now ... |
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06-07-2006, 08:23 PM | #1879 |
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Dola - don't recall much mention of AlanT in Anxiety's posts either ... looking at the guys he doesn't mention didn't help as much as I hoped it would. But it does make me feel better about Lathum and considerably better about Saldana based on their frequent mentions and responses to him.
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06-07-2006, 08:23 PM | #1880 |
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I'd prefer is someone other than alan was the one to remove the vote, in case the other nasty rules come into play. Saldana and lathum are the next two in order, unless the vote rule doesn't include unvotes.
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06-07-2006, 08:25 PM | #1881 |
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Think Fozzie said yesterday first vote as long as it is valid counts, regardless if its removed. so regardless of unvotes, the first vote was frozen the minute it happened
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06-07-2006, 08:25 PM | #1882 | |
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06-07-2006, 08:28 PM | #1883 |
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We might be in trouble here. If the same is true for last vote, schmidty has no real motivation to put a vote in here, and hoops is the exposed player at the moment. I think we would be better off changing it so that we're okay with whoever would be getting lynched for either most votes or least votes.
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06-07-2006, 08:30 PM | #1884 |
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Tyrith, not sure I'm following - last vote entered is Sack at the moment (post #1876). The only thing I'm last on at the moment is last to vote for AlanT.
Schmidty - Saldana (1790) Tyrith - AlanT (1774), Lathum (1801), Barkeep (1813), Sack (1876) AlanT - Tyrith (1830), Hoopsguy (1843) No votes - Schmidty |
06-07-2006, 08:32 PM | #1885 |
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Right now its:
First voter - Saldana First vote - Alan Least votes - Schmidty Most votes - Tyrith Last voter - Sackattack Last vote - Tyrith None of our most critical roles are there, and if we lose any of those, its probably not a huge deal at all for us. I was hoping to prove my role to you all, but if its not going to happen, this is about the best way I can think of to make it happen. |
06-07-2006, 08:35 PM | #1886 |
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Schmidty is here now but no Saldana. Schmidty if you want to put your vote on me, I'll unvote if Saldana is not here to move his vote later to force a tie.
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06-07-2006, 08:37 PM | #1887 |
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ok nevermind, Saldana is back too! If both of you put your votes on me, its 4-4 and we have 33% chance of hitting a condition with a tie, to prove my role
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06-07-2006, 08:37 PM | #1888 |
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If Saldana/Schmidty change to create the 4-4 tie:
First voter - Saldana First vote - Alan Least votes - tie, Tyrith and Alan Most votes - tie, Tyrith and Alan Last voter - Saldana or Schmidty Last vote - Alan Pretty close to the same scenario, except Schmidty (who may or may not have an important role) is out of the line of fire. |
06-07-2006, 08:38 PM | #1889 |
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What if the final vote thing also doesn't count unvotes?
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06-07-2006, 08:38 PM | #1890 |
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unvote schmidty
vote alant |
06-07-2006, 08:39 PM | #1891 |
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By the way, I hate playing this way (would prefer my primary motivation to be voting who I think is guilty) but without knowing the rules of voting I think this is the optimal play.
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06-07-2006, 08:39 PM | #1892 | |
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Not sure what you mean here. |
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06-07-2006, 08:39 PM | #1893 |
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Assuming schmidty follows suit, I'm cool with this.
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06-07-2006, 08:39 PM | #1894 |
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so what is the vote count now?
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06-07-2006, 08:39 PM | #1895 | |
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I gave my reasons this morning why I think this is the best play. I am glad you all trusted me enough to try to set this up. Now i just hope I dont die from first or last vote instead |
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06-07-2006, 08:40 PM | #1896 |
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Four me, three alan, schmidty still to vote.
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06-07-2006, 08:40 PM | #1897 |
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dola, never mind, went back and found it...so all we need is schmidty to vote for alan, and no one to move anything around
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06-07-2006, 08:44 PM | #1898 |
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Lathum, you still going with the "close to the vest" strategy here?
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06-07-2006, 08:45 PM | #1899 | |
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06-07-2006, 08:48 PM | #1900 |
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uh, paging schmidty....are you gonna vote?
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