08-21-2019, 10:57 AM | #18501 |
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It's an interesting thought, but I if the rampant idiocy from Trump could actually be a factor in some kind of economic slowdown. He is such a buffoon and a vast part of the economy is perception - that it seems like if people have no confidence in Trump and see signs of the economy slowing down, that it could actually cause a small recession. I don't think it would happen until late 2020 or 2021, but I think it actually is possible. And that's something I never would have considered until Trump.
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08-21-2019, 12:13 PM | #18502 |
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I hate the "What if Another President had . . ." game.
But if Bush or Obama had just favorably quoted someone calling them the King of Israel, it would be the only thing people talked about for a week. We'll have completely moved on by Friday. |
08-21-2019, 12:14 PM | #18503 |
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"we have great mental illness"
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08-21-2019, 12:25 PM | #18504 |
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By then he will have declared himself King of the First Men and Lord of the Andals.
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08-21-2019, 12:50 PM | #18505 | |
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This is kind of the thing though. For many years people who were accurate in pointing out the aims of the Republican party were accused of either "playing the race card" or grossly exaggerating things, but it turns out that the reality of things is even more absurd than any parody from a few years back could've been. |
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08-21-2019, 01:45 PM | #18506 |
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He's also bashing the PM of Denmark today over this. Such a bizarre time in history.
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08-21-2019, 01:52 PM | #18507 |
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Someone noted that Obama has a Denmark visit planned for September, so Trump's handlers probably convinced him to cancel the meeting so he wouldn't rage over the optics of Obama's visit getting a better reception than his.
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08-21-2019, 01:56 PM | #18508 | ||
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Not sure if a $1K additional would help that much but I'll take it. It may be better to spend it on new infrastructure projects.
This is exactly how much a payroll-tax cut would help the average American - MarketWatch Quote:
180-185K average per month is still fairly decent but obviously not as good as 223K. I guess this increases the likelihood of the Fed reducing rates more. U.S. created 500,000 fewer jobs since 2018 than previously reported, new figures show - MarketWatch Quote:
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08-21-2019, 02:07 PM | #18509 |
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The GOP is lined up behind lower interest rates, high deficit spending, and a payroll tax cut because they will all, "boost the economy."
And yet when Obama called for the same things, there was near-universal opposition from the GOP. Everything's a con.
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08-21-2019, 02:21 PM | #18510 |
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08-21-2019, 02:34 PM | #18511 |
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Payroll tax cut would make sense if we weren't running up huge debt during the times when the economy is good. It's just going to tack on a ton more debt that will burden the next generation.
They could make it revenue neutral but that would require taxing wealthy people and that will definitely not happen. |
08-21-2019, 02:43 PM | #18512 |
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08-21-2019, 03:22 PM | #18513 | |
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08-21-2019, 04:52 PM | #18514 |
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So internal discussions were already being planned for acquiring Greenland:
Damian Paletta @damianpaletta · Internal planning was so far along they had begun to even think about the financial cost. White House officials had discussed taking over Denmark’s $600 million annual payment to Greenland, and also giving Denmark some sort of financial sweetener. https://washingtonpost.com/politics/trump So is the whole white house staff is insane now?
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08-21-2019, 06:06 PM | #18515 |
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I'm lost. Can someone explain to me what this is about?
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08-21-2019, 06:19 PM | #18516 |
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I think this is about California environmental standards. Trump wants to overrule, but the auto companies are fine with the standards.
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08-21-2019, 06:23 PM | #18517 |
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I RETIRED FROM PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL 3 YEARS AGO AND THE MSM DIDN'T COVER IT! IT'S A DISGRACE THAT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REAL TRUE NEWS OF THE US IS.
Where was all the good attention that I should be receiving at? Everything I'm doing is super important and my baseball career should be getting the same attention as RUSSIA!
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08-21-2019, 06:24 PM | #18518 |
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So he is mad that car companies are making fuel efficient cars that their customers want? I know he's bad at business, but come on.
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08-21-2019, 06:44 PM | #18519 |
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08-21-2019, 07:09 PM | #18520 |
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So in the past couple of days Trump has:
*Tried to buy a country *Got mad when said country turned down his offer to buy it and canceled a visit to country that oversees said country *Told Jewish people if they don't vote for him they're not loyal *Retweeted someone praising him as the 2nd coming of Christ *Referred to himself as "The Chosen One" *Said he was looking into cutting payroll taxes *Said he wasn't looking into cutting payroll taxes *Decided detaining children indefinitely is the cool thing to do *Stated he's strongly considering eliminating birthright citizenship *Attacked Auto Manufacturers for self regulating themselves for the good of the environment. Am I missing something? |
08-21-2019, 08:17 PM | #18521 |
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The Denmark things feels like a way to get out of a trip he doesn't want to go on. Remember that he likes sitting around watching TV.
There is talk that because Obama is going at the end of September, it would be embarrassing to him to see the difference in receptions. |
08-21-2019, 08:48 PM | #18522 |
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Maybe, but it's also being reported that White House staff had gotten far enough to plan how to take possession and had started working out a price.
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08-21-2019, 11:30 PM | #18523 | |
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No I don't Trump can do it with an Executive order. It is being abuse. Wish we could do something about it.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/21/polit...ent/index.html Quote:
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08-21-2019, 11:56 PM | #18524 | |
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I don't buy it. I think the possibility of the economy weakening heading into the election has him looking for something he can can sell as a major accomplishment with broad support. |
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08-22-2019, 10:41 AM | #18525 |
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08-22-2019, 10:55 AM | #18526 |
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I had a boss who wanted to win an award where others have to submit a nomination. She tried to get an underling to submit a nomination that she wrote herself. Maybe she should have run for President...
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08-22-2019, 10:59 AM | #18527 | |
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Tom Cotton said this morning that he had talked to the President about Greenland a while ago. I think the much more likely explanation is that Trump wanted to buy Greenland and lashed out when a woman mocked him. That fits with everything we know about him.
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08-22-2019, 11:00 AM | #18528 | |
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08-22-2019, 11:07 AM | #18529 |
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Dodging STDs was his personal Vietnam after all.
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08-22-2019, 12:42 PM | #18530 |
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Hmmm. GOP politicians starting to lie about caring about the debt/deficit again. Makes me wonder if they are seeing some really bad internal polls for Trump.
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08-22-2019, 02:00 PM | #18531 |
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Are they really going to run on a promise to cut Social Security and Medicare?
At least Trump was smart enough to realize people really like Social Security and Medicare and promising to cut them is a dumb thing to do before an election.
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08-22-2019, 02:14 PM | #18532 | |
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Romney and Ryan did run on a platform of cutting future benefits for people who were under 55 at the time.
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08-22-2019, 02:44 PM | #18533 |
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This story about the resignation of the Overstock CEO after claiming to be in the middle of the Russia/Trump investigation is nuts.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/o...p-russia-story
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08-22-2019, 02:50 PM | #18534 |
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Joe Walsh is threatening to run in a primary against Trump. It will probably go nowhere, but I hope he does.
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08-22-2019, 02:52 PM | #18535 |
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The faux outrage that is going to come from the GOP in the coming months and years is going to be something to behold.
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08-22-2019, 03:10 PM | #18536 | |
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Crazy is 3 Mar-a-Lago members getting involved in the VA's transition to a new EHR for no reason other than they're friends with Trump. Emails show Veterans Affairs officials' scorn for 'Mar-a-Lago 3' - POLITICO |
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08-22-2019, 03:42 PM | #18537 |
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So the National Republican Congressional Committee is fund-raising by offering this shirt for a donation:
Got Greenland? - National Republican Congressional Committee
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08-22-2019, 03:50 PM | #18538 | |
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I'm one of the most far-left people on this board and I'd consider getting that shirt. That's hilarious and awesome.
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08-22-2019, 04:12 PM | #18539 |
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Yeah, it seems more like making fun of Trump than supporting him. NRCC has no clue.
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As I mentioned to someone else, of course there is no Puerto Rico.
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08-22-2019, 04:30 PM | #18541 | |
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I bet nobody gets punished for this.
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08-22-2019, 04:35 PM | #18542 |
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To the surprise of no one Sarah Huckabee Sanders takes a job as a contributer on Fox News and her first apperance will of course be on Fox and Friends in September.
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08-22-2019, 04:48 PM | #18543 |
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"Staff at the sheriff’s office explained that they had a policy of detaining all Latinx people for immigration review."
I didn't quite believe that, so I looked at the complaint. Torres claims that an unidentified administrator made that statement, but the administrator is just referred to as "Jane Doe" in the complaint. In their write-up about the complaint, the ACLU hides that fact that it's an allegation, and tries to make it sound like it's an on-the-record official policy statement or something. Maybe someone said it, maybe that person had any authority or knowledge of detention procedures in that county, maybe they didn't. Maybe the detention was constitutional, maybe it wasn't, but this is just allegations in a complaint, the state hasn't even responded yet. But I'm skeptical that the sheriff's office in this area not only just rounds up all Hispanics and automatically puts immigration holds on them, but states this as their policy. Last edited by molson : 08-22-2019 at 05:08 PM. |
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To be fair, it's already be precedent in the 80's during the drug wars with black men being rounded up on the streets 'just to see if they were criminals or not'. It's not exactly a new tactic.
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08-22-2019, 05:28 PM | #18545 | |
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08-22-2019, 05:31 PM | #18546 |
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We all agree Trump wants Greenland cause of how bigot it looks on a Mercator projection, right?
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08-22-2019, 05:31 PM | #18547 |
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I meant bigly, but spellcheck hilarious.
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08-22-2019, 05:33 PM | #18548 | |
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I would've gone with this.
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08-22-2019, 05:48 PM | #18549 | |
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Times, they be a changing. Back then the Browns could make conference champion game. If any local or state government rounded op people based on the color of their skin as official policy then their asses would be sued off.
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08-22-2019, 05:57 PM | #18550 |
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My point is that the ACLU isn't even really alleging that this is this agency's official policy. They just want you to assume that from the write-up. But the only person who allegedly said this is an unidentified "staff member" who isn't alleged to have any authority to actually create, state or enforce such a policy. And this person can't be investigated, deposed, etc, because they're just a Jane Doe.
And complaint allegations shouldn't be reported as fact. Just like allegations in a criminal complaint shouldn't be reported as fact. The ACLU gets around this with these write-ups that get passed around as if they're news articles. The ACLU prefers dramatic language in their legal filings and write-ups. Including appeals to emotion, hiding the ball, invitations to make incorrect inferences. Stuff that would be considered unprofessional or unethical for most attorneys to engage in. Last edited by molson : 08-22-2019 at 06:05 PM. |
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