02-13-2007, 09:33 AM | #1751 |
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02-13-2007, 09:36 AM | #1752 |
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Alan- we have to have our order in by 3:30.
Here is what I thunk we should do. Have one person who seems most trusted submit the order and not tell anyone else. That way unles that person is a wolf there is no way the wolves can fix it since no one but that one person knows the order. I nominate St. Cronin. Despite his poor attitude he is the closest we have to cleared. |
02-13-2007, 09:38 AM | #1753 | |
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It's quite simple, this has been far and away the least amount of fun I've had playing werewolf (with apologies to Barkeep). This game just doesn't suit my schedule or the way my mind works. None of the challenges have made any sense to me, I haven't been able to keep up with the multiple deadlines, etc. I'm doing my best to compete and have fun, and I'm not going to throw the game, but the sooner I'm voted off the happier I'll be. |
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02-13-2007, 09:40 AM | #1754 | |
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I agree, St.cronin is the only one on this team we're sure isn't a wolf. So that works for me. |
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02-13-2007, 09:42 AM | #1755 |
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The order everyone goes must be submitted by 3:30. I will then post the match-ups at that time.
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02-13-2007, 09:43 AM | #1756 | |
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Well I'm sorry you feel that way, but I think the thing that you have to keep in mind is that several of us.. even though we were frustrated by you don't want to vote you since we know you aren't a wolf. So voting for you likely is just a wasted vote. I meant what I said earlier, that we're giving you another chance, and I'm hoping maybe with a more active group perhaps the game will be more fun for you and you'll find some entertainment where a dead tribe earlier wasn't able to give you. For the entire game, I've had fun likely because Helsing has been active and working together. I guess what I am saying is give us a try, and see if we can let bygones be bygones.. I think voting for you at this point would be a bad vote if we ever get to a tribal council.. so would rather not give the wolves an easy option to vote you because (he wanted to be voted, or we didnt like his attitude, or whatever) |
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02-13-2007, 09:43 AM | #1757 |
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02-13-2007, 09:43 AM | #1758 |
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02-13-2007, 09:44 AM | #1759 |
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Well my guess is if we haven't seen wolf kills yet, then a wolf conversion would be unlikely too. Either way, in most WW games I prefer going for the knowns (sure wolf chances) before the unknown or hypotheticals (could have been converted) |
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02-13-2007, 09:45 AM | #1761 |
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Can you change your action once it is posted?
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02-13-2007, 09:45 AM | #1762 |
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Eh, I will not be around at that time anyway. I won't be back on til later this evening most likely.
VOTE ROCK In case I need to get one in now. |
02-13-2007, 09:47 AM | #1763 |
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My assumption was one person submitts the list of all of our names with our actions to barkeep. I simply suggested us all choosing our action here in the thread as an option of getting those actions. I could be wrong on this though. |
02-13-2007, 09:48 AM | #1764 | |
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I am doing my best, and I understand that. Anyway for the last time GE and I were telling the truth about Raiders. My thought in making the play that I did was that one of the wolves might do or say something that would call attention to themselves. Apparently, it didn't happen, but I still think it was a reasonable play. |
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02-13-2007, 09:49 AM | #1765 |
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02-13-2007, 09:51 AM | #1766 | |
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I think we have to post our action in here according to BK |
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02-13-2007, 09:52 AM | #1767 |
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Every player needs to be assigned a letter, from A-H. One player gets two letters. I will then take your A and match him up against the A from Howard. And so on down the line. Players then post their rock, paper, or scissors decision in the thread and I resolve the conflicts.
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02-13-2007, 09:53 AM | #1768 | |
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what happens in a tie? does it roll to the next player? |
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02-13-2007, 09:54 AM | #1769 |
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Our action doesn't have to be posted until the deadline but the order needs to be in by 3:30.
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02-13-2007, 09:56 AM | #1770 |
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02-13-2007, 10:02 AM | #1771 |
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ok, then so for the 3:30 deadline, we need to decide what the order will be, and who goes twice.
I personally think in a random contest, going random is the best way. I say we take the 7 people, put them in random.org and the person's number who comes up goes twice. Then for the order, we put the 8 names (including the one person twice) in to random.org and let it shuffle it and provide us our order. |
02-13-2007, 10:10 AM | #1772 | |
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works for me |
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02-13-2007, 10:22 AM | #1773 |
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If we go with the random approach, I think we should work that out close to 3:15-3:30 time table just to limit any leaking of that information to the other tribe. Any volunteers for doing the random.org stuff if we go with that approach? I don't mind doing it, but if i do it, I likely will take screenshots as I go so people will believe the values I get
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02-13-2007, 11:00 AM | #1774 | |
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It's going to be posted by BK in the main forum so that really won't matter re: leaks go ahead and do the random.org thing. |
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02-13-2007, 11:08 AM | #1775 |
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02-13-2007, 11:11 AM | #1776 | |
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I'm fine with this. I really don't see how this can be gamed as long as we don't reveal our choices until the last minute.
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02-13-2007, 11:24 AM | #1777 |
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Ok, so for the order to be randomized, I just used Bakeep's order that he has us listed in:
I simply assigned a number next to each of the entries in notepad in the same order: Put them into random.org: And random.org told me who should go twice: I check my list and #5 is Path, so he also becomes #8: I go back to random.org to help create a random sequence: Random.org says we should go in this number: So I put the names in order based off of random.org: So randomly, our list would be: Lathum Swaggs Mr. W Cronin Path Path Alan SnDvls |
02-13-2007, 11:33 AM | #1778 |
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ugh, not the turnout I would have wanted.
BTW- Alan you crack me up |
02-13-2007, 11:35 AM | #1779 |
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I would have just trusted you!
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02-13-2007, 11:45 AM | #1780 |
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Personally I think everybody should go with rock. After all, nothing beats rock.
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02-13-2007, 11:47 AM | #1781 |
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02-13-2007, 11:54 AM | #1782 |
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so I don't want to be mean, but I don't think path should go twice
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02-13-2007, 11:56 AM | #1783 | |
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Even if he's a wolf, what difference does it make? Heck, if he's a wolf, we're probably slightly better off with him going twice. |
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02-13-2007, 11:57 AM | #1784 |
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02-13-2007, 11:59 AM | #1785 |
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Don't you think wolves want to win challenges?
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02-13-2007, 11:59 AM | #1786 |
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02-13-2007, 12:01 PM | #1788 |
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And considering oz had no wolves and bombed on a couple of challenges ...
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02-13-2007, 12:04 PM | #1789 |
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I dunno, I guess it is no big deal but lets say the wolves CAN communicate and 2 of them are on our side and one on their side. They could try and throw the challange so the side with 1 wolf loses giving them a better chance to not vote off a wolf.
Maybe I am overthinking it |
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02-13-2007, 12:05 PM | #1791 |
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Well, it wouldn't be werewolf if somebody wasn't overthinking. The other tribe got the bulk of oz - so chances are WE have 2 wolves. |
02-13-2007, 12:06 PM | #1792 |
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Which might be a reason for US to throw it. You see what happens? |
02-13-2007, 12:06 PM | #1793 | |
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but if we keep to the plan of not posting our R/P/S until before deadline then we stand a better chance of stopping it I think |
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02-13-2007, 12:09 PM | #1794 |
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I think thats the best we can do to prevent people from messing with the values. We all submit our picks at the end, and keep track of who put in what bids when.
After the contest is over, we can ask the villagers on the other team in the general thread what the times of their submissions were, who drove it, etc. To see if that gives us anything. We can hope that the other team is as willing as we are to hunt out wolves that way now that the teams were shuffled some. |
02-13-2007, 12:26 PM | #1795 |
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7 members of this tribe, 1 former ozzite = 6 possible wolves
8 members of the other tribe, 3 former ozzite = 5 possible wolves Just thinking out loud about the odds. We know (I think) that there is at least one wolf in each tribe. Can anybody speculate on which tribe is more likely to have two? |
02-13-2007, 12:31 PM | #1796 | |
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Well you can break it down as such: (assuming no conversions) Helsing Alan - 16% Cronin - 0% Lathum - 16% Mr. W - 16% Path - 25% SnDvls - 16% Swaggs - 33% Howard Anxiety - 33% Ardent - 0% Golden - 0% Grammaticus - 16% ITC - 0% Jonathan - 25% Kwhit - 33% Pass - 16% So if you look at the raw percentages, Howard technically has a very tiny hair of a better chance of having wolves than us. When you take into account that they have more people who have a 0% chance of catching a wolf, the general odds of voting off a wolf is much higher if they go to tribal council. |
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02-13-2007, 12:37 PM | #1797 | |
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hard to say. All I know is it is 50/50 Path is a wolf and 33% swaggs is one |
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02-13-2007, 12:37 PM | #1798 | |
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I think we should explain this in the other thread. Convince them to throw the challenge. |
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02-13-2007, 12:39 PM | #1799 |
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Assuming no conversions, and no seer reveal, we could maybe just use that list to coordinate with the other tribe who should lose each challenge, and who should then be voted off.
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02-13-2007, 12:45 PM | #1800 |
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I think it shouldn't matter who wins/ loses. IMO we should eliminate the remaining members of Howard and Lupus. That way we guarentee we eliminate 2 wolves leaving one ( assuming no conversion). That leaves us one wolf, the seer and 8 villagers.
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