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Old 12-13-2006, 07:11 PM   #1701
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Well, it comes to this. I don't buy the whole can't be converted thing. I have a hard to buying that we have 2 seers looking for musketeers, plus all these dukes running around.

vote blade

I am debating whether to accept the duel challenge. Would it be better to keep around a duke, or path, if the duels go as people think they will go.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:13 PM   #1702
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I should say a duke that has used his powers vs path and his being blackmailed everyday.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:15 PM   #1703
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Blade can't be converted, can scan for musketeers, and has to challenge anyone doubting his word. Blade is one powerful guy.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:16 PM   #1704
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I think the person who has gotten the least amount of scrutiny today, with not too much reason for avoiding it, is St. Cronin. Sorry you weren't hear the last two days, but we are now in Day 4 and need to start building a resume on people.

You are unvouched for at this point in the game. We know you were not around during Day cycles but I have no idea if that applies to Night cycles. In this respect you are unique in the game, without having soemone vouch for you and not having revealed any kind of role information.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:19 PM   #1705
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Fouts, you may be exactly right about Blade overstating his role. The problem is that he does it as both a good guy and a bad guy.

Are we right now at the point in the game where we feel like we need to learn about him for better or for worse? If so, we should make that move today. If not, then hopefully one of our roles is able to learn some information about him soon - I fully expect that the bad guys are having to move around at night to complete their kills, so even without a seer we have the option of playing a waiting game.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:20 PM   #1706
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Fouts, you may be exactly right about Blade overstating his role. The problem is that he does it as both a good guy and a bad guy.

Are we right now at the point in the game where we feel like we need to learn about him for better or for worse? If so, we should make that move today. If not, then hopefully one of our roles is able to learn some information about him soon - I fully expect that the bad guys are having to move around at night to complete their kills, so even without a seer we have the option of playing a waiting game.

Yeah, I'm not 100% sure about him, but he smells more fishy that Lathum or CW. If Tyrith guarded blade last night, and he really can scan for musketeers, blade is dead tonight.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:21 PM   #1707
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VOTE COFFEE WARLORD

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Old 12-13-2006, 07:22 PM   #1708
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I'm just worried we are giving up two good guys tonight (path & lathum), then 2 kills tonight. I doubt there is anything I can do without incriminating evidence though.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:22 PM   #1709
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Pretty inclined to agree with you, barring someone lying about their role. Blade being around tomorrow would obviously ratchet up the suspicion level.

But we are going to be down to a small game tomorrow, no matter who is left. Without some meaningful information emerging, it is going to be one bloody day of accusations between the remaining players.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:24 PM   #1710
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Yeah, I'm not 100% sure about him, but he smells more fishy that Lathum or CW. If Tyrith guarded blade last night, and he really can scan for musketeers, blade is dead tonight.

Yes, because when CW dies lets kill off the top suspect in the game.

Thats reallllly smart wolf play there fouts...if they dont kill me im dead, why not let you all do it for them. Think here fouts...
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:27 PM   #1711
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What is the current vote count?
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:27 PM   #1712
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Yes, because when CW dies lets kill off the top suspect in the game.

Thats reallllly smart wolf play there fouts...if they dont kill me im dead, why not let you all do it for them. Think here fouts...

If I were a wolf, no way you would live, if you really can scan for musketeers. The voters could be persuaded otherwise the next day, can't leave that to chance.

Fortunately for you, nobody else sees it the same way I do.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:29 PM   #1713
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Coffee 5, Lathum 3, blade 1. No vote: hoops, brian, lsg.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:29 PM   #1714
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blade, aren't you going to challenge me?
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:30 PM   #1715
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I think we need a straight lynch today.

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Old 12-13-2006, 07:33 PM   #1716
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Would have to get LSG to let go of her duel in order for the challenge to stick, and that doesn't seem too likely.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:35 PM   #1717
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Would have to get LSG to let go of her duel in order for the challenge to stick, and that doesn't seem too likely.

Not if we all agree to let me kill blade.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:36 PM   #1718
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Because... can blade scan for musketeers, can't be converted, must challenge people if his word is questions, AND be great with the pistol/sword?

Is his role that powerful??
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:38 PM   #1719
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Because... can blade scan for musketeers, can't be converted, must challenge people if his word is questions, AND be great with the pistol/sword?

Is his role that powerful??

I don't see how him having to challenge people is powerful at all. It just means that someone on the musketeer....side....that's good with weapons....could try to kill him.....
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:39 PM   #1720
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Not if we all agree to let me kill blade.

Well, that all would include the people in the first challenge. And how are you so certain you would win?
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:40 PM   #1721
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I don't see how him having to challenge people is powerful at all. It just means that someone on the musketeer....side....that's good with weapons....could try to kill him.....

Yeah, that alone isn't powerful, but all 4 of those together? I don't buy it. Still no challenge, think I'll get it started. This game is getting boring.

challenge blade to duel
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:41 PM   #1722
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Yeah, that alone isn't powerful, but all 4 of those together? I don't buy it. Still no challenge, think I'll get it started. This game is getting boring.

challenge blade to duel

No, fouts, it is a LIABILITY. If you want to fight him for real, you can just dump a vote on one of those people, and he has no choice but to init the challenge; you accept, we have a duel.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:43 PM   #1723
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I don't understand. Lathum voted for blade, and blade challenged him. Why won't blade duel me for voting for blade?
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:45 PM   #1724
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I don't understand. Lathum voted for blade, and blade challenged him. Why won't blade duel me for voting for blade?

He very well might. But if you really want to duel him, why don't you make it happen for sure?
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:47 PM   #1725
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He very well might. But if you really want to duel him, why don't you make it happen for sure?

I am doubting his word. The word of a former-musketeer. What is that worth? Just about nothing to this Cardinals Guard.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:47 PM   #1726
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Becuase i dont believe you to be evil. You have the straight duke role, he could just avoid one duel. I would prefer not to fight you
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:48 PM   #1727
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I am doubting his word. The word of a former-musketeer. What is that worth? Just about nothing to this Cardinals Guard.

Questions my word on musketeers. It does not apply to votes for me...like i said when i revealed:

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There lies the counter-balance to my role, and why i expected to die early in this game. After i scan a player, i must challenge anyone who votes them to a duel for the rest of the game.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:49 PM   #1728
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I am doubting his word. The word of a former-musketeer. What is that worth? Just about nothing to this Cardinals Guard.

If he doesn't challenge you then he's lied about his role and we've got him for sure.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:52 PM   #1729
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*screaming* WHY DOESN'T ANYONE IN THIS GAME MAKE ANY SENSE!?!?!?!?!?!? *calmer*
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:53 PM   #1730
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lets go.

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Old 12-13-2006, 07:54 PM   #1731
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I will say that I may not have been truthful about my abilities in dueling. If blade accepts, there is a good chance I will win.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:56 PM   #1732
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CHALLENGE FOUTS TO A DUEL

Shame it had to come to this fouts
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:59 PM   #1733
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accept duel with blade

Too many things don't add up. If I go down instead of another villager, then thats cool.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:00 PM   #1734
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Man, LSG is going to be pissed if she doesn't get her duel.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:02 PM   #1735
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Man, LSG is going to be pissed if she doesn't get her duel.

Well, that's the hangup. Are we going to get our blade duel? No one cares about path/LSG but we all care about blade/fouts...who the hell knows.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:11 PM   #1736
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well if we get a say I am all for blade vs. fouts but I feel we still need a majority lynch vote
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:14 PM   #1737
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I think the person who has gotten the least amount of scrutiny today, with not too much reason for avoiding it, is St. Cronin. Sorry you weren't hear the last two days, but we are now in Day 4 and need to start building a resume on people.

You are unvouched for at this point in the game. We know you were not around during Day cycles but I have no idea if that applies to Night cycles. In this respect you are unique in the game, without having soemone vouch for you and not having revealed any kind of role information.

I absolutely agree with this, and it was part of my "plan" when I realized my role ... bluff an important role to see if I could make a bodyguard block happen, or else end up getting lynched. If a villager is going to get lynched, I would prefer it be one whose ability is to hide from the voting. Alas, my plan has failed, and I am still here.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:16 PM   #1738
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Right now I actually like Lathum and DaddyTorgo as mouseketeers. Blade is certainly a possibility as well. Fouts point about Blade suddenly becoming mild-mannered definitely rang bells with me, although who knows. His story is plausible, on it's face.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:18 PM   #1739
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If Gram gives us path vs. LSG instead of blade vs. fouts it's going to be like watching jets/bills instead of chargers/broncos.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:18 PM   #1740
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Hmm ... I'll help make sure the majority vote sticks. As far as the duel, I think we are much higher risk/reward with Fouts/Blade than with Path/LSG.

Wish I knew what the outcome was going to be on the Warlord lynch before having to try and pick a duel that I would prefer. I'm not sure our votes actually impact which one comes up, but I suppose vocalizing a preference gives some indication of trust levels, which can be used to measure where a player sits. So even if it is irrelevant, I think it is a good exercise. I vote for Path/LSG for today, but if we are without information tomorrow with both players alive I would be all for that showdown.

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Old 12-13-2006, 08:20 PM   #1741
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Thats the 7th vote we need for the lynch of CW i believe
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:21 PM   #1742
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Right now I actually like Lathum and DaddyTorgo as mouseketeers. Blade is certainly a possibility as well. Fouts point about Blade suddenly becoming mild-mannered definitely rang bells with me, although who knows. His story is plausible, on it's face.

I have those guys higher on my suspicion meter as well - above Blade and Fouts both, which is why I'm less than enthused about a potential showdown there.

But at least we have a demonstrated role from Lathum and a semi-vouch for DT (from Brian). So Warlord and you are the two with the least coverage. Without some late-breaking analysis or information, I expect my vote will stay on the guy getting nookie from his woman this evening.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:22 PM   #1743
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CW isn't a bad choice, either.

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Old 12-13-2006, 08:22 PM   #1744
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for posterity's sake.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:22 PM   #1745
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dola

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Old 12-13-2006, 08:25 PM   #1746
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If I'm being honest, and trying to win the game to the fullest extent, path/LSG is a much better duel. Blade/fouts is fraught with risk. However, blade/fouts would certainly be fun, no matter the result, so I'm much more excited for that. It's the horrible choice between prudent and interesting.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:32 PM   #1747
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For the sake of the game I want a blade/fouts duel, but I cannot turn down a duel with Path. Does it say somewhere in the rules only one duel a night? And I dont have strong feelings about CW being bad, but if it helps the village...

[b] vote coffee warlord [b/]

I doubt this bolding works, but hopefully Gramm takes it. His write up tonight is going to take forever to write.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:33 PM   #1748
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put the / before the second b and your fine
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:34 PM   #1749
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If Gram gives us path vs. LSG instead of blade vs. fouts it's going to be like watching jets/bills instead of chargers/broncos.

lol
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:39 PM   #1750
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