Werewolf: Hunt for Necromancers - GAME OVER! Post #3469

[bulletsponge]

for 2 dead men, yall sure post a lot

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Barkeep or Dubb. They are the two players i usually fail to get a read on. As Alan T so beautifully revealed on of my major weaknesses in the ninja game, merely supporting me or agreeing with me earns my trust. Talking and playing with me is all it takes really, so since barkeep and dubb usually will go through ideas with me i tend to trust them. Therefore, for me they make the best scans as they are the toughest people for me to read, and for me that means the biggest threats to me(normally it would be hoops, but he is not playing due to his mod duties)

This is the post I was referring to. To me this looks like he just comes out and tells us who he scanned, and thus I would move Dubb and Barkeep up really high on my trust list now.

I don't buy Lathum's story at all any more.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Alan T

This is the post I was referring to. To me this looks like he just comes out and tells us who he scanned, and thus I would move Dubb and Barkeep up really high on my trust list now.

I don't buy Lathum's story at all any more.

I can't decide if that's the truth or a fakeout.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

'Favored by the Gods': will avert death (at least) one time during the game. No dice roll is invoked, no opportunity to identify his attacker. He will not even know he was attacked. The necromancers will know that he is 'Favored'. This power is useless against the Mummy or a Disease spell.

Or it could simply be a reference that he, in fact, did not have the above role.

So if we work off that theory CW, then we would have to assume it's not a disease or the Mummy (duh!) which would lead credence to the prophecy idea.

[Barkeep49]

Ok let's say we decide that Blade has indeed scanned dubb and me and we're clean. Good for us. That would put both of us on a circle of trust. There is already one person I am ready to vouch for and another player has hinted that I could be able to vouch for them. If that second player, not the one who I can vouch, would do something so I know it's not just me being taken for a ride, like Sack did, I would appreciate it. I would like to do this all before the end of night so taht if I am whacked during the night that there is a solid group of people for the good guys to use as part of a COT going forward.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

So if we work off that theory CW, then we would have to assume it's not a disease or the Mummy (duh!) which would lead credence to the prophecy idea.

There's no reason it couldn't be a disease. The mummy is obviously out. Mummy or Prophecy.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

for 2 dead men, yall sure post a lot

Im not saying anything that could effect the outcome of the game, and neither is cronin. Not sure how were any different then stevew or ardent who have posted. Were all just observers now, no harm no foul. We are merely here to make fun of people when they build a case against a guy when he is already dead

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I can't decide if that's the truth or a fakeout.

I would think it was a fake out, but Blade went way over the top far more than i would think.. it really felt to me like it was getting personal.. Like Why would I ever do this if I was a seer type of thing.

I still feel that Blade was reading into the same things about Bullet that I and others had and was trying to provoke him to get some form of response to make up his mind about him. I'm perfectly fine looking at bullet for today since he was my leading choice coming into all of this mess.

I however do choose to at least at this time feel Blade's comments damns Lathum and for the most part clears both Barkeep and Dubbs. Blade couldn't just come out and vote Lathum there, as it would be too obvious, so he had to try to work up some trust with others to back him on it. That way he would not have outed himself as the seer.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

There's no reason it couldn't be a disease. The mummy is obviously out. Mummy or Prophecy.

If it IS the prophecy, we have to wonder....is that particular role a friend to us at all? It did take out our seer, after all.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I would think it was a fake out, but Blade went way over the top far more than i would think.. it really felt to me like it was getting personal.. Like Why would I ever do this if I was a seer type of thing.

I still feel that Blade was reading into the same things about Bullet that I and others had and was trying to provoke him to get some form of response to make up his mind about him. I'm perfectly fine looking at bullet for today since he was my leading choice coming into all of this mess.

I however do choose to at least at this time feel Blade's comments damns Lathum and for the most part clears both Barkeep and Dubbs. Blade couldn't just come out and vote Lathum there, as it would be too obvious, so he had to try to work up some trust with others to back him on it. That way he would not have outed himself as the seer.

That should read I think its not a fake out

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

There's no reason it couldn't be a disease. The mummy is obviously out. Mummy or Prophecy.

I don't think he would use that phrasing if it were the disease because even someone favored by the gods would be susceptible to that.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I don't think he would use that phrasing if it were the disease because even someone favored by the gods would be susceptible to that.

Very good point, however, I do think you're/we're overanalyzing on this one. Sometimes flavor verbage is just for flavor.

Case in point. I remember laughing my ass off in the game I ran when a few people spent half the day trying to analyze random meaningless shit I posted at the end of the day writeups.

[Vince]

Man, the slow board has been a killer. I'll read a full page, then have to wait five minutes to get to the next one. What a day...that whole Blade thing still has my head spinning -- I had him pegged much closer to "bad" than "good" on my list. I'm not sure how to take it...I'd assume that it almost has to be the Prophecy, as Scarabs and Locusts don't sound much like any Disease I've ever heard of (though in Egypt...who knows). This is going to be (well, it's SUPPOSED to be) my only post of the day, as I work tonight, and have some stuff to do before I leave, so I'll throw it all in here to begin with...

So I started off with a big argument against Blade's continued lobbying for Path not being good, based on the fact that if he's bad and he's moving the Bodyguard AWAY from the target, how come he WAS the target? Then I realized that that would be an absolutely perfect cover story. Bear with me here:

• Path moves bodyguard to Dubb, ensuring he is not protected.
• Path claims to have a scarab from day one that he used already. Our options are blessed protection scarab (preventing attack) or cursed scarab (flip-flopping seer scan results).
• Path gets "attacked," fights off the attacker -- according to the rules, that means that it couldn't have been a protection scarab, and would have to flip-flop any scan results.

Now, this could be considered a bit far-fetched, but let's assume for the moment that Path is bad. I don't know if they can 'fake' an attack, but if they could wow would this go a long way towards clearing him. On second though, there might not have been an attack last night -- there was no mention of an attack or anything, just that we were called to the Pharaoh's rooms. Plus it gives an out; if he's scanned later, he'll show up as bad because the scarab he "used" is obviously a cursed scarab, flip-flopping his role. So for this to work, we need to assume a few things...

• Path is bad.
• Path knows someone else, who he can coordinate a fake attack with. OR, he just called an assembly of people.
• Path completely and totally faked the use of a Scarab.

Now, this is a lot of grasping at straws, and I'm pretty sure I don't really believe this myself...but this is the sort of crazy play that I would love to make as a bad guy

Today, I think it's obvious that we have to vote for Bulletsponge, but tomorrow...

(The way today is going, I'll have another two pages to read that were posted while I was typing up this monolithic post)

Vote Bulletsponge

[Alan T]

Trying to figure out my extended circles of trust now...

Trust: Dubbs, Barkeep , Sndvls, path.

If we assume Dubb is good, then by extention, Sndvls is too.

Distrust: Lathum, Bulletsponge, Saldana, pass

Turn of events that have shed some light on Lathum's story also helps me find some holes I don't like in Pass's story either. Never like when someone has a legitimate role reveal and then makes up things on top of it. usually I find that reveal fishy.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Ok let's say we decide that Blade has indeed scanned dubb and me and we're clean. Good for us. That would put both of us on a circle of trust. There is already one person I am ready to vouch for and another player has hinted that I could be able to vouch for them. If that second player, not the one who I can vouch, would do something so I know it's not just me being taken for a ride, like Sack did, I would appreciate it. I would like to do this all before the end of night so taht if I am whacked during the night that there is a solid group of people for the good guys to use as part of a COT going forward.

I can buy in, but if I'm not in the circle of trust I got big problems then.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Very good point, however, I do think you're/we're overanalyzing on this one. Sometimes flavor verbage is just for flavor.

Case in point. I remember laughing my ass off in the game I ran when a few people spent half the day trying to analyze random meaningless shit I posted at the end of the day writeups.

like my yak info I passed along to you from wikipedia

[Barkeep49]

Regarding sndvls and dubb:

Dubb can be good or bad (though I think he's good) with the soothsayer role. He simply needs to be telling the truth. And on that I find no reason for him to be lying. So ever since then SnDvls has been the only known good guy, besides myself, as far as I am concerned.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Regarding sndvls and dubb:

Dubb can be good or bad (though I think he's good) with the soothsayer role. He simply needs to be telling the truth. And on that I find no reason for him to be lying. So ever since then SnDvls has been the only known good guy, besides myself, as far as I am concerned.

I still say Blade pretty much told us that you and Dubbs are good/cleared.

If not, then you fall back into the untrusted column since Blade in my mind is the only one who has vouched for you.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I still say Blade pretty much told us that you and Dubbs are good/cleared.

If not, then you fall back into the untrusted column since Blade in my mind is the only one who has vouched for you.

I said, besides myself, because I know I'm good. I wouldn't expect others to. My own COT, actually has 3 people on it, including me, and I'm hoping I can get it up to 4 before I go to sleep tonight in case I die.

[Chubby]

holy crap, finally got caught up (as I said earlier, I've been at work and had to pick up the girlfriend)

It's going to take me a while to process the information in here, damn...

I do know the obvious tho

vote bulletsponge

I don't see anyone else I can even possibly consider at this point. I'll be back on later and again most likely at the lynching time.

[Tyrith]

Bullet vote count is now up to 14. Outstanding votes: bullet, king, path, saldana.

[Coffee Warlord]

Since bullet is basically a dead man tonight, and voting patterns from today are going to be completely and utterly useless.

Who else are we looking at for tomorrow?

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Since bullet is basically a dead man tonight, and voting patterns from today are going to be completely and utterly useless.

Who else are we looking at for tomorrow?

Lathum

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Since bullet is basically a dead man tonight, and voting patterns from today are going to be completely and utterly useless.

Who else are we looking at for tomorrow?

Chubby and Lathum in my book.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Chubby and Lathum in my book.

"

[Abe Sargent]

Let's see what happens tonight with the lynch and during Night Actions before jumping the gun on tomorrow.

-Anxiety

[Alan T]

Having work issues. I'll be out for a while. should be back before lynch tonight unless its bad

[Alan T]

dola..

Hi Ryan S

[bulletsponge]

i have a power storm right now and it might last all night, so there is a chance i wont be on for the final lynching tonight. i btter get my vote out then

Vote Bulletsponge

[Vince]

Ok, well I'm out for work. Catch you guys after the lynch.

[Passacaglia]

bulletsponge, why are you even palying? You haven't even once tried to defend yourself!

[SnDvls]

gone for the day...I won't be back for lynch so see you tomorrow

[Vince]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

bulletsponge, why are you even palying? You haven't even once tried to defend yourself!

Well, Paly's are usually the tank, resorting to absorbing damage and reducing threat to other party mem...oh, sorry, wrong game.

Realistically though, I don't see much of a play when you're down 11-0. I mean, I'm sure I'd try something, but it wouldn't be with much hope

[Abe Sargent]

What game, exactly, were you referring to there?

-Anx

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Vince

Well, Paly's are usually the tank, resorting to absorbing damage and reducing threat to other party mem...oh, sorry, wrong game.

Realistically though, I don't see much of a play when you're down 11-0. I mean, I'm sure I'd try something, but it wouldn't be with much hope

Fake role reveal?


-Anx

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Vince

Well, Paly's are usually the tank, resorting to absorbing damage and reducing threat to other party mem...oh, sorry, wrong game.

Realistically though, I don't see much of a play when you're down 11-0. I mean, I'm sure I'd try something, but it wouldn't be with much hope

He's been down several times the last few days, and made a conscious decision not to bother defending himself -- I think he called it a "weasly necro move" or somesuch. Yeah, he's down 11-0 now, but he wasn't always. He could have at least said SOMETHING.

I dunno, maybe it's just that the way he spells "noose" bugs me.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

Fake role reveal?


-Anx

Obviously now is the time for him to claim mystic.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Obviously now is the time for him to claim mystic.

Well, there may be more than one!

[dubb93]

FYI, JimmyWint became a legend today. If you haven't checked out the Fudge a bank statement thread now may be the time.

[saldana]

vote bulletsponge

anything else is academic....BS, just to give you a little help, if you have a role, now would be the time to tell us about it....there is still plenty of time for us to move if you give us a reason.

[Abe Sargent]

Honestly, saldana, he could say he's he freakin' EG and I don't think it'd matter much.

-Anxiety

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

Honestly, saldana, he could say he's he freakin' EG and I don't think it'd matter much.

-Anxiety

Actually thats perhaps the one role he could claim to keep himself from being lynched. All he would have to do is tell us who Path told him to guard on night 1 and if he hits it right, then he's legit!


ps.. even if you arent EG, please claim it just so we have something to laugh and watch tonight before lynch so its not boring!

[dubb93]

Bulletsponge is here, please claim mystic, please.

[Abe Sargent]

Claim Initiate please!


-Anxiety

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Actually thats perhaps the one role he could claim to keep himself from being lynched. All he would have to do is tell us who Path told him to guard on night 1 and if he hits it right, then he's legit!


ps.. even if you arent EG, please claim it just so we have something to laugh and watch tonight before lynch so its not boring!

Yea, but what about blind chance? I could claim EG and say Path told me to protect himself. Is that the right answer? IDK, but it could very well be and we all know I'm not the EG.

[bulletsponge]

once Blades died and about 7 people jumped on the "lynch him" vote it was pretty much over for me. im sorry im not squirming enough for you. besides if the situation was reversed and i thought you were a necro i wouldnt believe you if you came out at the last minuet and claimed to be an important egyptian

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Yea, but what about blind chance? I could claim EG and say Path told me to protect himself. Is that the right answer? IDK, but it could very well be and we all know I'm not the EG.

I doubt path told him to protect path that night due to the reason we wanted him to command a guarding. And if he blindly got the 1/21 chance right of who to guard, well that deserves another day!



ps. I'll really laugh if he really is the EG

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

once Blades died and about 7 people jumped on the "lynch him" vote it was pretty much over for me. im sorry im not squirming enough for you. besides if the situation was reversed and i thought you were a necro i wouldnt believe you if you came out at the last minuet and claimed to be an important egyptian

So you have no role? You haven't claimed anything. You have no defense? That means you really are a nec.

[bulletsponge]

I dunno, maybe it's just that the way he spells "noose" bugs me.

thanks for pointing that out Pass, i looked it up on dictionary.com and found out i was spelling it wrong

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

once Blades died and about 7 people jumped on the "lynch him" vote it was pretty much over for me. im sorry im not squirming enough for you. besides if the situation was reversed and i thought you were a necro i wouldnt believe you if you came out at the last minuet and claimed to be an important egyptian

Well if you are legit, and on our side.. tell us what your role is, what you do know instead of taking it to your grave so we don't have to guess.

If you are bad, then we will find out after the lynch and anything you said will be taken with a grain of salt anyways.

Its never too late to avoid a lynch, and many of us believe like I do that Blade wasn't 100% on you, he simply said you because of how you were acting.