Werewolf XCVIII - 24 Day Game Over - Post 2899

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Danny

Last game, he seemed to be pretty on top of things. I was very impressed with his play

Thanks

[hoopsguy]

It appears that some of the higher-ups do not approve of the way that NFG22 has been conducting himself since the start of the investigation. He has been brought in for disciplinary action.

[PurdueBrad]

kinky

[DaddyTorgo]

that sounds wolfy

[Thomkal]

uhoh that can't be good.

[PurdueBrad]

Today is the first vote that I've made that I consider 'bad' so feel free to scrutinize. I made a huge blunder in moving from CR to Telle. I did it due to something DT said (something about CR being okay, although it was in regards to the Jackal-CR showdown but I wasn't ready to lynch Jackal) but I guess I should've followed Danny with his 'evidence.' I assume this makes me a candidate for tomorrow but you at least have my reasoning.

[henry296]

It is time to reveal.

I am Renee Walker an FBI agent. My power gives me the ability to learn about the voters the first time I vote to lynch a villager. In addition if I cast the last vote that causes the deadline to learn the name of a someone who voted with me. The information that I'm given is how many members of the conspiracy voted with me. In this case there were no members of the conspiracy who voted with me.

Here was the vote totals from the death of Telle.

Telle: path (1502, 4:49 pm) saldana (1515 6:28 pm) Purdue (1560, 7:30 PM) nfg (1632 8:36 pm) ntn (1639 8:39 pm) henry (1653 8:43 pm)
nfg
Jackal: Thomakl (1411, 2:24 PM) Pass (1425 2:57 pm) iSidiqui (1465 3:52 pm)
Danny: Autumn (1450, 3:21 PM)

Therefore, I'm convinced Thomkal, Pass, Isidiqui and Autumn are our conspirators.

VOTE Thomkal

[DaddyTorgo]

are we down to 16 players now? or 17?

[PurdueBrad]

I guess I'll follow along

vote Thomkal

[PurdueBrad]

Looks like 16 DT, but two are out of commission (nfg, BrianD).

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by henry296

It is time to reveal.

I am Renee Walker an FBI agent. My power gives me the ability to learn about the voters the first time I vote to lynch a villager. In addition if I cast the last vote that causes the deadline to learn the name of a someone who voted with me. The information that I'm given is how many members of the conspiracy voted with me. In this case there were no members of the conspiracy who voted with me.

Here was the vote totals from the death of Telle.

Telle: path (1502, 4:49 pm) saldana (1515 6:28 pm) Purdue (1560, 7:30 PM) nfg (1632 8:36 pm) ntn (1639 8:39 pm) henry (1653 8:43 pm)
nfg
Jackal: Thomakl (1411, 2:24 PM) Pass (1425 2:57 pm) iSidiqui (1465 3:52 pm)
Danny: Autumn (1450, 3:21 PM)

Therefore, I'm convinced Thomkal, Pass, Isidiqui and Autumn are our conspirators.

VOTE Thomkal

I hope this is true but this sounds like quite an unbalanced power.

[The Jackal]

Henry are you saying that you believe there is no way that path, sal, PB, nfg and ntn are wolves?

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Henry are you saying that you believe there is no way that path, sal, PB, nfg and ntn are wolves?

That's what he is saying.

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Henry are you saying that you believe there is no way that path, sal, PB, nfg and ntn are wolves?

I believe that is what he is saying and I agree about at least one of those people.

[henry296]

Actually after looking at this more closely, it looks like DT, EagleFan, BrianD didn't vote, but I think we feel ok about them. Who else didn't vote.

Also, it looks like CR's vote for Telle was still counted unless nfg gets two votes b/c he is listed twice.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I believe that is what he is saying and I agree about at least one of those people.

So you think that nfg is not a wolf?

[henry296]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Henry are you saying that you believe there is no way that path, sal, PB, nfg and ntn are wolves?

Absolutely... although I can add you to the did not vote list, so I don't know about you.

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

So you think that nfg is not a wolf?

Hey, I could bring the sig back at anytime...jerkface.

[DaddyTorgo]

@10:36pm - that's affirmative and also correct re: where they were. i have no doubts about you - have not for some time.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by henry296

It is time to reveal.

I am Renee Walker an FBI agent. My power gives me the ability to learn about the voters the first time I vote to lynch a villager. In addition if I cast the last vote that causes the deadline to learn the name of a someone who voted with me. The information that I'm given is how many members of the conspiracy voted with me. In this case there were no members of the conspiracy who voted with me.

Here was the vote totals from the death of Telle.

Telle: path (1502, 4:49 pm) saldana (1515 6:28 pm) Purdue (1560, 7:30 PM) nfg (1632 8:36 pm) ntn (1639 8:39 pm) henry (1653 8:43 pm)
nfg
Jackal: Thomakl (1411, 2:24 PM) Pass (1425 2:57 pm) iSidiqui (1465 3:52 pm)
Danny: Autumn (1450, 3:21 PM)

Therefore, I'm convinced Thomkal, Pass, Isidiqui and Autumn are our conspirators.

VOTE Thomkal

There's a lot of people that aren't on your list -- people who didn't vote, and people who voted for Chief Rum.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by henry296

Actually after looking at this more closely, it looks like DT, EagleFan, BrianD didn't vote, but I think we feel ok about them. Who else didn't vote.

Also, it looks like CR's vote for Telle was still counted unless nfg gets two votes b/c he is listed twice.

I didn't see Schmidty or Danny on your list either -- although I have high trust for Danny, and pretty good trust for Schmidty.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by henry296

Absolutely... although I can add you to the did not vote list, so I don't know about you.

I voted for CR, actually. If it's true that PB and NTN are good, then that throws out that part of my voting record, though.

[kingfc22]

If we are to believe henry:

These are the remaining suspects
1. Danny - Pretty sure he is good
3. TheJackal
6. Passacaglia
7. Autumn
8. Schmidty
14. ISiddiqui
19. Kingfc22 - I know I'm good
20. Thomkal
24. eaglefan

High trust:
15. DaddyTorgo - CTU Special Agent Jack Bauer
12. BrianD - Recovering from torture
16. ntndeacon

Mid Trust with henry's info:
10. PurdueBrad - clear
13. nfg22 - Disciplinary action - clear
17. Saldana - clear
22. path12 - clear
23. henry296 - clear

[Passacaglia]

I also don't see king on there.

[henry296]

Let me try to go through this systematically.

1. Danny - High Trust, turned in CR
3. TheJackal - Potential wolf, no vote
6. Passacaglia - Potential wolf, didn't vote for Telle
7. Autumn - Potential wolf, didn't vote for Telle
8. Schmidty - Potential wolf, didn't vote for Telle
10. PurdueBrad - Good vote for Telle
12. BrianD - Recovering from torture - presumed good based on DT interrogation
13. nfg22 - Disciplinary action - good voted for Telle
14. ISiddiqui - Potential wolf, didn't vote for Telle
15. DaddyTorgo - CTU Special Agent Jack Bauer - GOOD
16. ntndeacon- Good, voted for Telle
17. Saldana - Good, voted for Telle
19. Kingfc22 - Potential wolf, no vote but was voting for CR
20. Thomkal - Potential wolf, didn't vote for Telle
22. path12 - Good, voted for Telle
23. henry296 - GOOD
24. eaglefan - Potential wolf, no vote but his distrust of CR makes him good in my eyes).

We probably should add Jackal and Schmidty to list of potential wolves b/c the others who didn't vote either have good reasons or had originally votes for CR.

[The Jackal]

henry.. I voted for CR.

[henry296]

Given the close vote, I would be surprised if a wolf was hiding on CR.

[The Jackal]

I was on CR for a while, no one was listening to me, so I switched to Telle with CR, then Danny came out with this info and I switched back.

[henry296]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

henry.. I voted for CR.

Correct, sorry I missed that one.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by henry296

Correct, sorry I missed that one.

It's cool, just wanted to get you aware of it before you posted more analysis.

[PurdueBrad]

I'm out for the night, weird but good day. Despite my voting record, I'm glad to hear Henry's news.

[henry296]

If people want to chat with me, I'll be online for about another hour and then not back to after 8 PM tomorrow.

[DaddyTorgo]

so jackal isn't on your list henry? he can't be a wolf?

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

so jackal isn't on your list henry? he can't be a wolf?

I'm definitely on his list. Until I said anything he didn't even think I'd voted.

I'm well aware I fall into the "uncleared" category and I'm ready to deal with it.

[The Jackal]

Feel free to do me a favor and have someone scan/interrogate me, but I feel pretty good about what I've done and said here, and I'd been on CR before he generated much suspicion.

[henry296]

Jackal could be a wolf, but his vote was on CR and then dropped when CR was killed just prior to the lynch of Telle. Thus the CR votes were not included in the final wrap-up BK posted. THerefore, for I trust Jackal just slightly less than the Telle voters. Same thing with King.

[DaddyTorgo]

okay - so since this has been pretty blown-open...

[kingfc22]

Funny. 13 people are waiting in anticipation to see what DT has to say

[DaddyTorgo]

lol - are you all? i was curious if someone was going to say "yeah?" or anything

[kingfc22]

Unvote nfg

Going to give him the benefit of the doubt with henry's info.

[Danny]

Wow, great job Henry. I definitely trust his list

[kingfc22]

Vote Thomkal

[Barkeep49]

You knew that the Conspiracy wouldn't sit still. And sure enough they have not. In a series of 10 minutes no fewer than 5 area universities report that armed gun men have invaded their science labs. The members of CTU scatter to deal with this newly arisen threat. In the distraction which ensues you don't see Danny disappear. But the Conspiracy did and you find her dead body. This is a big loss as she was a large reason that you were able to communicate in the way that you had.

You are the communications specialist. As long as your role remains secret, players will have the ability to PM between each other during the game, up to a maximum of 4 PMs sent each 24 hours. If you reveal your role, or are correctly identified in the thread, then the PMs drop to 1 PM sent due to the enemy being able to jam communications.

This loss is especially bitter as is it's thought that Janis Gold, had she not lost her security clearance, would have been able to partially replace Chloe.

There is some concern when you attempt to contact Jack responding to UCLA. The concern increases when there are reports of shots fired there. Jack, after a period of great worry, reports that he had been wounded, but he is fine now.

[Danny]

I think if we combine this with some info from DT, we should have the wolves caught

[Barkeep49]

With the loss of Chloe O'Brian players may no longer communicate via PM.

[Danny]

Oh well, good luck village, at least I helped us get one wolf

[The Jackal]

Well, good work with the past lynch Danny, sorry to see you go.

[DaddyTorgo]

yes - i suspected that was your role danny. fuck that we lost you.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by henry296

It is time to reveal.

I am Renee Walker an FBI agent. My power gives me the ability to learn about the voters the first time I vote to lynch a villager. In addition if I cast the last vote that causes the deadline to learn the name of a someone who voted with me. The information that I'm given is how many members of the conspiracy voted with me. In this case there were no members of the conspiracy who voted with me.

Here was the vote totals from the death of Telle.

Telle: path (1502, 4:49 pm) saldana (1515 6:28 pm) Purdue (1560, 7:30 PM) nfg (1632 8:36 pm) ntn (1639 8:39 pm) henry (1653 8:43 pm)
nfg
Jackal: Thomakl (1411, 2:24 PM) Pass (1425 2:57 pm) iSidiqui (1465 3:52 pm)
Danny: Autumn (1450, 3:21 PM)

Therefore, I'm convinced Thomkal, Pass, Isidiqui and Autumn are our conspirators.

VOTE Thomkal

FWIW guys - i fully support this analysis by Henry but you also have to factor in EF and Jackal who did not vote. Danny may elaborate on his trust for EF later to me, so we'll see about that.

It also gels with what I was about to post about who the likely conspirators were in my mind based on my trust-list (where there are 6 on my "non-trust" section, and autumn is in "medium trust" but with the note that he could be a wolf demonstrating his power to me because he figures it's relatively harmless.

Bottom line (assuming no cunning, although i think that may end up being faulty - but we cross that bridge when we get to it): our wolves lie in the group of: Thomkal, Jackal, kingfc22, EagleFan (maybe), ISiddiqui, autumn, pass, path, saldana

That is based on MY list. Of that list, I hope to be able to move pass + saldana off of it entirely soon, and i would rank them as LOW chance of being wolves. Path is the next least likely, and then autumn in my mind, based on their roles and what they've demonstrated of their powers.

so the bottom of MY list looks like this:

autumn
path
pass/saldana

The other 5 people are in one big clump at the top.


Henry's list subtracts Path and Saldana from mine if we are to believe his powers (and i have no reason not to, and every reason to believe them, just saying). Of those, I think Path is the more relevant, as I am just waiting for corroboration before moving Saldana off of mine anyways.


I had intended to hold this all back till i either found one more wolf or was able to move pass + saldana off the list, just to make the numbers better. but with henry coming out with it all, it seems like there's no reason i shouldn't corroborate his story.

people that aren't listed there are unacceptable votes at the moment. if they become acceptable at some point in the future i suggest you start with the people who have not been "seer cleared" which are purduebrad, ntn. after that, it's a craphshoot if there's a cunning where they are.

[henry296]

Well done Danny... Good game.