Werewolf XXV: A long time ago...game over, Sith win,full role listing at 2030 - Page 34

Blade6119 · 03-09-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Hey what happened to the post Blade made?

I deleted it, its barkeeps right to speak/not speak about his reasons

Poli · 03-09-2006, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Thanks.

I do what I can.

hoopsguy · 03-09-2006, 06:59 PM

Gram, I would have obviously preferred to not have my vote dictated today. However, I never had anything in my initial role that pertained to mentally strong or anything like that. I never had anything at all in terms of special actions until getting a PM when Jeebs died.

Agreed with AE's thought that substitutions in the game make for a much harder time for everyone and disrupt flow. But I guess it beats the alternative of losing a player without any new alternate taking the place.

Grammaticus · 03-09-2006, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Gram, I would have obviously preferred to not have my vote dictated today. However, I never had anything in my initial role that pertained to mentally strong or anything like that. I never had anything at all in terms of special actions until getting a PM when Jeebs died.

Agreed with AE's thought that substitutions in the game make for a much harder time for everyone and disrupt flow. But I guess it beats the alternative of losing a player without any new alternate taking the place.

So, what else do you now know about your role?

hoopsguy · 03-09-2006, 07:13 PM

I'll post you my description from when I gave the reveal. But I can't say anything about last night because that would involve discussing another player in the game.

Post #1441 from 8:31 PM last night (one minute after deadline - received votes at 8:27 and 8:28 to put me into tie)

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Would have come forward with a reveal if given more time, but my death does not help Jedi. Not the seer, however.

Post #1468 from 8:51 PM last night (during time when extension was on)

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OK, if we are using the extension ...

My initial PM (fairly heavy paraphrasing) said that I was strong in the force but didn't give me any special abilities. It didn't sound like generic Jedi, but without any night actions I was playing as an ordinary villager.

This morning I got a PM after Jeeber died indicating that I was deeply saddened by the death of Jeeber but knew that he was not yet gone for me. That, coupled with his death scene (1292), makes me suspect that my role has been activated.

There is my role information, prior to the Night 6 info.

Grammaticus · 03-09-2006, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I'll post you my description from when I gave the reveal. But I can't say anything about last night because that would involve discussing another player in the game.

Post #1441 from 8:31 PM last night (one minute after deadline - received votes at 8:27 and 8:28 to put me into tie)

Post #1468 from 8:51 PM last night (during time when extension was on)

There is my role information, prior to the Night 6 info.

Sorry Hoops, I don't buy the fact that you are forced to not speak of your role. It is just too convenient. I already read your posts from last night and of course it does not tell us anything. If the Sith could shut a player down all day, as well as change his vote, it would have been done earlier.

hoopsguy · 03-09-2006, 07:29 PM

I'm quite sure why they did it today, but I can't even give those reasons. That is what has been the most frustrating part, even more than the constant attacks on me.

I asked/begged/bartered with Saldana for as much freedom to post today as I could get. But the boundaries for Day 7 are pretty restrictive due to the early forced vote.

Poli · 03-09-2006, 07:32 PM

Well, you're certainly free to share such reasons in about 1 hour.

saldana · 03-09-2006, 08:09 PM

25 minutes to go....current vote count is:
hoops - 4 - kwhit, gram, path, sun
path - 6 - taz, cartman, king, penny, AE, sack
gram - 1 - hoops

voting really does end at 9:30, but i probably wont post until after csi is over.

SackAttack · 03-09-2006, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

25 minutes to go....current vote count is:
hoops - 4 - kwhit, gram, path, sun
path - 6 - taz, cartman, king, penny, AE, sack
gram - 1 - hoops

voting really does end at 9:30, but i probably wont post until after csi is over.

Less than that. Board time shows it's was closer to 21 minutes to go as of your post, and closer than that now.

hoopsguy · 03-09-2006, 08:14 PM

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but i probably wont post until after csi is over.

Hello, Tivo.

Poli · 03-09-2006, 08:17 PM

Hello, in 15 minutes you can tell us more. Technically the day is over.

hoopsguy · 03-09-2006, 08:19 PM

The day was definitely not over at 8:15 yesterday ... I do not have particularly good memories of how that went down

Poli · 03-09-2006, 08:22 PM

Assuming he doesn't face plant you again, it should be safe to speak after 8:30, in which time your vote is locked and you can speak freely.

At least, that's what I was told.

Poli · 03-09-2006, 08:22 PM

Dola, if I get forced to vote for someone, I'm going to be very peeved.

Grammaticus · 03-09-2006, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Current votes as of Post #1637 (everyone has voted, who doesn't think there is going to be serious - but not "influenced" late movement?):

Gram - Hoopsguy (1538)
Hoops - Grammaticus (1557), KWhit (1560), SnDvls (1601), Path (1636)
Path - Penny (1605), Taz (1618), Ardent (1619), Sack (1623), King (1632), Cartman (1635)

Here is just a thought. Everyone has voted, right. What if one person moved his vote off Path and does not recast. that would leave it 5-4 Path over Hoops. If Path is a Sith and Hoops is good, we will see a vote shift to Hoops. That would give us more info, other than just a lynch. If Path is Jedi and there is no vote move, it would show the Sith are not just trying to frame hoops. Not sure what else we could get, other than to test Hoops’ story of not being able to change his vote.

I don’t know if it is worth changing anything now or not. Anyone else have thoughts?

hoopsguy · 03-09-2006, 08:27 PM

The problem there is that if the Sith move to kill me that you lose me today.

Given that you aren't sure that I'm a Jedi/Sith it makes some sense. But you are taking the approach that all Jedi are equal, which I am not sure is the case at this point in the game. Yes in terms of votes, no in terms of winning the game.

Poli · 03-09-2006, 08:28 PM

I'll stay where I am.

Grammaticus · 03-09-2006, 08:29 PM

Alright, lets not do anything crazy. We can just ride it out and see how this plays out.

SackAttack · 03-09-2006, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Here is just a thought. Everyone has voted, right. What if one person moved his vote off Path and does not recast. that would leave it 5-4 Path over Hoops. If Path is a Sith and Hoops is good, we will see a vote shift to Hoops. That would give us more info, other than just a lynch. If Path is Jedi and there is no vote move, it would show the Sith are not just trying to frame hoops. Not sure what else we could get, other than to test Hoops’ story of not being able to change his vote.

I don’t know if it is worth changing anything now or not. Anyone else have thoughts?

If there are two Jedi at risk here, not moving a vote for the Sith would have the effect of setting Hoops up tomorrow if path dies today. I don't know if that tells us much. It could still be a passive frame-up if they're trying to frame him.

SackAttack · 03-09-2006, 08:30 PM

dola,

not moving a vote would have the effect of setting hoops up tomorrow for the Sith.

That came out completely ass-backwards.

Grammaticus · 03-09-2006, 08:30 PM

I'm guessing voting is about closed??

hoopsguy · 03-09-2006, 08:31 PM

Just about. Info forthcoming ...

SackAttack · 03-09-2006, 08:31 PM

Look at the timestamp. Looks closed to me.

saldana · 03-09-2006, 08:33 PM

cant tivo csi if i want to watch it in HD....Directv doesnt have the abilitly to tivo the HD networks

Grammaticus · 03-09-2006, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Just about. Info forthcoming ...

After CSI

Grammaticus · 03-09-2006, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

cant tivo csi if i want to watch it in HD....Directv doesnt have the abilitly to tivo the HD networks

WHAT, that is totally screwed up. I'm assuming you mean HDTV. That would make TiVo kinda ass backwards.

Grammaticus · 03-09-2006, 08:35 PM

dola,

What color lightsaber do you have Path?

hoopsguy · 03-09-2006, 08:36 PM

Taz is 100% clear. I was able to communicate with the spirit of JeeberD last night and able to ask him about the role of one person. I asked about Taz because I wanted to understand the thought process around the Night 4 vote.

More to come in a couple of minutes, but wanted to get this out initially. I'll be here to answer as many questions as I can.

TazFTW · 03-09-2006, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Taz is 100% clear. I was able to communicate with the spirit of JeeberD last night and able to ask him about the role of one person. I asked about Taz because I wanted to understand the thought process around the Night 4 vote.

More to come in a couple of minutes, but wanted to get this out initially. I'll be here to answer as many questions as I can.

Boo yah!

Unless you're a Sith... and this is implicating me in some sort of Sith plot.

Poli · 03-09-2006, 08:37 PM

Holy smoke.

Grammaticus · 03-09-2006, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Taz is 100% clear. I was able to communicate with the spirit of JeeberD last night and able to ask him about the role of one person. I asked about Taz because I wanted to understand the thought process around the Night 4 vote.

More to come in a couple of minutes, but wanted to get this out initially. I'll be here to answer as many questions as I can.

How does Jeeber know this?

Poli · 03-09-2006, 08:38 PM

If that's true, I've been barking up the wrong trees, like, every day.

Poli · 03-09-2006, 08:39 PM

Dola, of course, this is assuming hoops ain't a bad guy.

hoopsguy · 03-09-2006, 08:40 PM

Jeeber is dead, but he survived in the same sense that Ben lives when Vader strikes him down. He visited me last night and I'm able to ask him about one player in the game.

SackAttack · 03-09-2006, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Boo yah!

Unless you're a Sith... and this is implicating me in some sort of Sith plot.

By default, that wouldn't implicate you unless he gets lynched and revealed to be a Sith. That's my take on it. I think it would probably clear you either way though.

"The devil tells the truth...when it suits his purpose."

So either he's telling the truth, and you're clear, or he's a Sith, and you're clear, but he's using that to his advantage.

Or else this is a brassy-ass plot by the two of you to get you trusted.

Those seem to be the possibilities to me.

Grammaticus · 03-09-2006, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Dola, of course, this is assuming hoops ain't a bad guy.

Of course he comes up with something that cannot really be tested.

hoopsguy · 03-09-2006, 08:43 PM

Sure it can be tested. You lynch me or lynch Taz. But either way you are getting a Jedi. And we are FINALLY starting to build a circle of trust. Very late in the game, but we might still be able to pull this one off.

TazFTW · 03-09-2006, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Sure it can be tested. You lynch me or lynch Taz.

Preferably the former.

hoopsguy · 03-09-2006, 08:48 PM

I would prefer we lynch a Sith for a change.

path12 · 03-09-2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

dola,

What color lightsaber do you have Path?

It's not scarlet, I know that. I like green.

Poli · 03-09-2006, 08:49 PM

Honestly, I would have rather you asked about say, me or Path.

Grammaticus · 03-09-2006, 08:52 PM

Why did you choose Taz over Path? Path is the one you said you suspected as the Master Sith.

Grammaticus · 03-09-2006, 08:53 PM

dola,

obviously I agree with AE's post above.

hoopsguy · 03-09-2006, 08:54 PM

I was flip-flopping between those two (Taz/Path) when I made my choice. But part of my logic on Path was that he was manipulating that vote. Well, he wouldn't need to manipulate it if it was Jedi vs Jedi, which it was.

hoopsguy · 03-09-2006, 08:58 PM

Day 1: Superman/Qwikshot (Jedi/Jedi)
Day 2: Lathum/Qwikshot (Jedi/Jedi)
Day 3: Ardent/Dubb (strong Jedi lean/evil)
Day 4: Taz/Qwikshot (Jedi/Jedi)
Day 5: Tanglewood/Taz (Jedi/Jedi)
Day 6: StKelly/Hoops (Jedi/Jedi)
Day 7: Hoops/Path (Jedi/Jedi?)

Unless Ardent turns out to be evil (still don't buy it), we haven't had a Sith in the final vote run-off for seven days! This is pretty disgusting.

This is why I wanted to see Day 4. To fill in the blank on the only vote I thought might have interested the Sith since the start of the game.

Grammaticus · 03-09-2006, 09:01 PM

Then if you looked at Path and said he was clean, we would be looking closer at you. Path would have been a better choice for the team, but Taz was a better and safer chance for you as an individual.

hoopsguy · 03-09-2006, 09:06 PM

Whoever I looked at was a good choice for the team, as we start to build a circle of trust.

I thought there was more possibility for a domino effect in the view of Taz, because voting records on Day 4 would have been compelling.

Poli · 03-09-2006, 09:07 PM

Come on saldana....no jedis...no jedis...big sith...big sith...stop!

saldana · 03-09-2006, 09:10 PM

There are 11 of you left. You have to catch a Sith soon. At least that is the thought which dominates the group consciousness. Two camps emerge from the discussion, one accusing Hoopsguy, the other accusing Path12. By nightfall, Path's accusers have outnumbered those of Hoops.

Once again you gather, and Path12 stands at the front of the room. "I told you this morning, I would not resist if you chose to strike me down today. I am a Jedi Knight. I gave you all my word this morning and I stand by it now. For those of you that think there is some value in my death, you shall have, but I ask you, what will you do tomorrow"

With that, Path12 calmly takes his lightsaber out and locks it on, its pure marigold blade humming in the silence. Using the Force, he suspends the blade, point down directly over himself. "Goodbye my brothers, May the Force be with You".

With that, Path closes his eyes, and the lightsaber drops its point striking Path in the center of the chest. However, instead of piercing him and impaling his body, Path12 disappears entirely, his robes and his lightsaber clattering to the ground.

He has become one with the Force, communing with it in a way only a pure Jedi could.

day 7 has ended. it is now night 7, night actions are due by 9:30am

03-09-2006, 07:32 PM	#1658
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Well, you're certainly free to share such reasons in about 1 hour. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-09-2006, 08:17 PM	#1662
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Hello, in 15 minutes you can tell us more. Technically the day is over. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-09-2006, 08:22 PM	#1664
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Assuming he doesn't face plant you again, it should be safe to speak after 8:30, in which time your vote is locked and you can speak freely. At least, that's what I was told. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-09-2006, 08:22 PM	#1665
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Dola, if I get forced to vote for someone, I'm going to be very peeved. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-09-2006, 08:28 PM	#1668
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'll stay where I am. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-09-2006, 06:59 PM	#1653
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Gram, I would have obviously preferred to not have my vote dictated today. However, I never had anything in my initial role that pertained to mentally strong or anything like that. I never had anything at all in terms of special actions until getting a PM when Jeebs died. Agreed with AE's thought that substitutions in the game make for a much harder time for everyone and disrupt flow. But I guess it beats the alternative of losing a player without any new alternate taking the place.

03-09-2006, 07:29 PM	#1657
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'm quite sure why they did it today, but I can't even give those reasons. That is what has been the most frustrating part, even more than the constant attacks on me. I asked/begged/bartered with Saldana for as much freedom to post today as I could get. But the boundaries for Day 7 are pretty restrictive due to the early forced vote.

03-09-2006, 08:09 PM	#1659
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	25 minutes to go....current vote count is: hoops - 4 - kwhit, gram, path, sun path - 6 - taz, cartman, king, penny, AE, sack gram - 1 - hoops voting really does end at 9:30, but i probably wont post until after csi is over.

03-09-2006, 08:19 PM	#1663
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	The day was definitely not over at 8:15 yesterday ... I do not have particularly good memories of how that went down

03-09-2006, 08:27 PM	#1667
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	The problem there is that if the Sith move to kill me that you lose me today. Given that you aren't sure that I'm a Jedi/Sith it makes some sense. But you are taking the approach that all Jedi are equal, which I am not sure is the case at this point in the game. Yes in terms of votes, no in terms of winning the game.

03-09-2006, 08:29 PM	#1669
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Alright, lets not do anything crazy. We can just ride it out and see how this plays out.

03-09-2006, 08:30 PM	#1671
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	dola, not moving a vote would have the effect of setting hoops up tomorrow for the Sith. That came out completely ass-backwards.

03-09-2006, 08:30 PM	#1672
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	I'm guessing voting is about closed??

03-09-2006, 08:31 PM	#1673
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Just about. Info forthcoming ...

03-09-2006, 08:31 PM	#1674
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Look at the timestamp. Looks closed to me.

03-09-2006, 08:33 PM	#1675
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	cant tivo csi if i want to watch it in HD....Directv doesnt have the abilitly to tivo the HD networks

03-09-2006, 08:35 PM	#1678
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	dola, What color lightsaber do you have Path?

03-09-2006, 08:36 PM	#1679
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Taz is 100% clear. I was able to communicate with the spirit of JeeberD last night and able to ask him about the role of one person. I asked about Taz because I wanted to understand the thought process around the Night 4 vote. More to come in a couple of minutes, but wanted to get this out initially. I'll be here to answer as many questions as I can.

03-09-2006, 08:37 PM	#1681
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Holy smoke. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-09-2006, 08:38 PM	#1683
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	If that's true, I've been barking up the wrong trees, like, every day. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-09-2006, 08:39 PM	#1684
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Dola, of course, this is assuming hoops ain't a bad guy. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-09-2006, 08:40 PM	#1685
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Jeeber is dead, but he survived in the same sense that Ben lives when Vader strikes him down. He visited me last night and I'm able to ask him about one player in the game.

03-09-2006, 08:43 PM	#1688
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Sure it can be tested. You lynch me or lynch Taz. But either way you are getting a Jedi. And we are FINALLY starting to build a circle of trust. Very late in the game, but we might still be able to pull this one off.

03-09-2006, 08:48 PM	#1690
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I would prefer we lynch a Sith for a change.

03-09-2006, 08:49 PM	#1692
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Honestly, I would have rather you asked about say, me or Path. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-09-2006, 08:52 PM	#1693
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Why did you choose Taz over Path? Path is the one you said you suspected as the Master Sith.

03-09-2006, 08:53 PM	#1694
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	dola, obviously I agree with AE's post above.

03-09-2006, 08:54 PM	#1695
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I was flip-flopping between those two (Taz/Path) when I made my choice. But part of my logic on Path was that he was manipulating that vote. Well, he wouldn't need to manipulate it if it was Jedi vs Jedi, which it was.

03-09-2006, 08:58 PM	#1696
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Day 1: Superman/Qwikshot (Jedi/Jedi) Day 2: Lathum/Qwikshot (Jedi/Jedi) Day 3: Ardent/Dubb (strong Jedi lean/evil) Day 4: Taz/Qwikshot (Jedi/Jedi) Day 5: Tanglewood/Taz (Jedi/Jedi) Day 6: StKelly/Hoops (Jedi/Jedi) Day 7: Hoops/Path (Jedi/Jedi?) Unless Ardent turns out to be evil (still don't buy it), we haven't had a Sith in the final vote run-off for seven days! This is pretty disgusting. This is why I wanted to see Day 4. To fill in the blank on the only vote I thought might have interested the Sith since the start of the game.

03-09-2006, 09:01 PM	#1697
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Then if you looked at Path and said he was clean, we would be looking closer at you. Path would have been a better choice for the team, but Taz was a better and safer chance for you as an individual.

03-09-2006, 09:06 PM	#1698
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Whoever I looked at was a good choice for the team, as we start to build a circle of trust. I thought there was more possibility for a domino effect in the view of Taz, because voting records on Day 4 would have been compelling.

03-09-2006, 09:07 PM	#1699
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Come on saldana....no jedis...no jedis...big sith...big sith...stop! __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-09-2006, 09:10 PM	#1700
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	There are 11 of you left. You have to catch a Sith soon. At least that is the thought which dominates the group consciousness. Two camps emerge from the discussion, one accusing Hoopsguy, the other accusing Path12. By nightfall, Path's accusers have outnumbered those of Hoops. Once again you gather, and Path12 stands at the front of the room. "I told you this morning, I would not resist if you chose to strike me down today. I am a Jedi Knight. I gave you all my word this morning and I stand by it now. For those of you that think there is some value in my death, you shall have, but I ask you, what will you do tomorrow" With that, Path12 calmly takes his lightsaber out and locks it on, its pure marigold blade humming in the silence. Using the Force, he suspends the blade, point down directly over himself. "Goodbye my brothers, May the Force be with You". With that, Path closes his eyes, and the lightsaber drops its point striking Path in the center of the chest. However, instead of piercing him and impaling his body, Path12 disappears entirely, his robes and his lightsaber clattering to the ground. He has become one with the Force, communing with it in a way only a pure Jedi could. day 7 has ended. it is now night 7, night actions are due by 9:30am

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