Werewolf LXXII: Chess (Checkmate!) - Page 34

jeheinz72 · 05-13-2008, 02:06 PM

looks right Pass

Passacaglia · 05-13-2008, 02:09 PM

After most of White seems content with its political campaign against Black for the time being, the pieces decide to re-focus on the wolf problem. While a sizable contingent still argues for oliegirl to go, the majority look at RendeR and point to the gallows. RendeR looks down, sighs, and accepts his fate. RendeR was a White Bishop and a villager! The night passes again with not much to speak of, but you awake to find that mccollins has not joined you. mccollins controlled four White Pawns!

jeheinz72 · 05-13-2008, 02:10 PM

jeheinz72 · 05-13-2008, 02:10 PM

hoopsguy · 05-13-2008, 02:11 PM

RendeR was a villager? GAH indeed!

jeheinz72 · 05-13-2008, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

RendeR was a villager? GAH indeed!

Shush dead wolf boy!

KWhit · 05-13-2008, 02:13 PM

Narcizo · 05-13-2008, 02:14 PM

I screwed up guys. Sorry.

mccollins · 05-13-2008, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

If you're able to PM with wolves, this game is jacked up. I hope you're referring to something else.

Neon_Chaos · 05-13-2008, 02:16 PM

Boom.

One time offer to the White King,

You still think you can win?

Our best shot at this is a stalemate.

Time is a ticking.

Holler back if you want to work out a deal to try and weed out the wolves. It's simple really. Let's not have this game put in the hands of the wolves via the vote. Everyone votes for you today, and you get to pick who you want to lynch... that way, no surprises, and 100% responsibility on your shoulders. Tomorrow, everyone votes for me, and same thing.

The game is placed in the hands of the two pieces that cannot die.

One time offer on the table, yes or no.

jeheinz72 · 05-13-2008, 02:17 PM

I implore people to start thinking black/white though instead of wolves/village.

With that said though, I'm pretty sure I know who Jackal's comrade is. It's my partner, Narcizo. I implored him in private to protect mccollins, since collins was our ace in the hole about-to-be-queened.

So what happenes, Collins dies. Wolf wolf wolf.

jeheinz72 · 05-13-2008, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Boom.

One time offer to the White King,

You still think you can win?

Our best shot at this is a stalemate.

Time is a ticking.

Holler back if you want to work out a deal to try and weed out the wolves. It's simple really. Let's not have this game put in the hands of the wolves via the vote. Everyone votes for you today, and you get to pick who you want to lynch... that way, no surprises, and 100% responsibility on your shoulders. Tomorrow, everyone votes for me, and same thing.

The game is placed in the hands of the two pieces that cannot die.

One time offer on the table, yes or no.

Ha, says the guy who I've lined up for the kill.

Granted, I *thought* I had help here, but my partner next to you I don't think is on my side anymore.

The Jackal · 05-13-2008, 02:19 PM

The longer you leave olie alive, the less chance you have of winning.

jeheinz72 · 05-13-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

The longer you leave olie alive, the less chance you have of winning.

Argh. Shove it wolf boy. That's enough outta you.

jeheinz72 · 05-13-2008, 02:20 PM

NTN - Don't be a sucker and take Neon's idea.

Neon_Chaos · 05-13-2008, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Ha, says the guy who I've lined up for the kill.

Granted, I *thought* I had help here, but my partner next to you I don't think is on my side anymore.

Catch me if you can.

Passacaglia · 05-13-2008, 02:23 PM

All PMs have been sent out. I'm going to make a deadline of 12 PM tomorrow for Day 7.

Neon_Chaos · 05-13-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

NTN - Don't be a sucker and take Neon's idea.

Don't be a menace in south central while drinking your juice in the hood.

Passacaglia · 05-13-2008, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Don't be a menace in south central while drinking your juice in the hood.

Awesome movie, and I'm tempted to just end the game now and say Black wins just because you mentioned it, but I might as well let it play out fairly.

jeheinz72 · 05-13-2008, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Catch me if you can.

I'll get you my pretty!

PB - Did you get your pawns to the end and get new pieces?

Passacaglia · 05-13-2008, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Awesome movie, and I'm tempted to just end the game now and say Black wins just because you mentioned it, but I might as well let it play out fairly.

I mean, whatever team you're on.

Narcizo · 05-13-2008, 02:36 PM

Vote Jackal

He says Render was a wolf. Render wasn't a wolf. Ergo - Jackal is a wolf.

jeheinz72 · 05-13-2008, 02:42 PM

Argh. NTN and PB I need your thoughts here. We know a wolf, we know we need to remove olie.

RendeR · 05-13-2008, 02:56 PM

Nobody EVER listens to me.

Someday you MIGHT want to try it.

PurdueBrad · 05-13-2008, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

I implore people to start thinking black/white though instead of wolves/village.

With that said though, I'm pretty sure I know who Jackal's comrade is. It's my partner, Narcizo. I implored him in private to protect mccollins, since collins was our ace in the hole about-to-be-queened.

So what happenes, Collins dies. Wolf wolf wolf.

I haven't caught completely up but we have to go white-black and try to get the king.

jeheinz72 · 05-13-2008, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I haven't caught completely up but we have to go white-black and try to get the king.

We've got a King and a Rook (black) against a King, 2 rooks, 1 knight and whatever you convert into. Additionally the knight isn't going to help us and my guess is Narcizo is the 4th wolf and he won't help us. So basically it's me and you hunting down Neon while Olie tries to get NTN.

Can you see Olie's location from your spot?

NTN, can you?

If she's a bit away we might want to get Jackal or Narcizo. They could actually get in our way and impede our progress. For instance Narc is right near me, it's very possible he'll put himself between me and Neon and effectively be a black member anyhow. Ditto Jackal who I have no idea where he is on the board.

PurdueBrad · 05-13-2008, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Argh. NTN and PB I need your thoughts here. We know a wolf, we know we need to remove olie.

I'm gettin ready to leave but I'm tempted to go for the wolves so that we can get their votes off the board and try to get the king on the board. BUT oliegirl can protect him on the board. I think we're in a good bit of trouble here. I'll put up something longer later after I've thought about it.

jeheinz72 · 05-13-2008, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I'm gettin ready to leave but I'm tempted to go for the wolves so that we can get their votes off the board and try to get the king on the board. BUT oliegirl can protect him on the board. I think we're in a good bit of trouble here. I'll put up something longer later after I've thought about it.

Olie can't protect Neon. She and I have the same power and let's just say I stupidly tried that earlier.

PurdueBrad · 05-13-2008, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

We've got a King and a Rook (black) against a King, 2 rooks, 1 knight and whatever you convert into. Additionally the knight isn't going to help us and my guess is Narcizo is the 4th wolf and he won't help us. So basically it's me and you hunting down Neon while Olie tries to get NTN.

Can you see Olie's location from your spot?

NTN, can you?

If she's a bit away we might want to get Jackal or Narcizo. They could actually get in our way and impede our progress. For instance Narc is right near me, it's very possible he'll put himself between me and Neon and effectively be a black member anyhow. Ditto Jackal who I have no idea where he is on the board.

Believe it or not, I don't see anybody black. I'm hoping to see Neon after he moves in the next turn and will scan his location with my pawn. We'll see. I do see both white rooks: B7 and D6 but that's it.

jeheinz72 · 05-13-2008, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Believe it or not, I don't see anybody black. I'm hoping to see Neon after he moves in the next turn and will scan his location with my pawn. We'll see. I do see both white rooks: B7 and D6 but that's it.

Ok cool, if you have a queen then, I think we've got a shot at taking this just you and I.

That begs the question though. Narcizo is the player most in our way possibly. He could actually flip the script and defend Neon in hopes of delaying us and Jackal could be down by NTN defending him against Olie.

I'm almost certain Narcizo is the 4th wolf (more on that later), we could take him out now leaving us unimpeded to swipe at Neon while Jackal presumably fends off Olie for us. He doesn't want to see NTN die any more than we do.

PurdueBrad · 05-13-2008, 03:49 PM

I would rather get the confirmed wolf, Jackal, and go from there. I'm either voting Jackal or Olliegirl and am more likely to vote Jackal I think.

jeheinz72 · 05-13-2008, 03:49 PM

Regarding Narcizo's wolfiness:

- Voted KWhit instead of hoops on Day one, albeit I made the same mistake, so I can't really hold this against him

- He actually suggested in PM to me when Anxiety was outed that Qwik and Cronin were wolves 3 and 4. He alluded to this a few pages back. Kinda strange he'd mention those two given they were the next two night kills after Qwik caught Anxiety.

- The whole debacle on his ability to protect against wolf attack, yet the ONE player we MOST should have protected, who he TOLD me he was protecting ends up dying. That alone sealed it for me. I've been back-and-forth on him all game, hesitant to even share my board position with him, but when he did this, it cemented it in my mind.

I'm not 100% sure taking him out first makes the most sense, but I'm pretty sure his and Jackal's plan once White had the major advantage was to split up and defend the kings manually. Hence Jackal stays near NTN and Narc makes his move up the left towards Neon. My guess is now he'll get in the way or our snipes at Neon.

Of course, I could be all wrong here, but for me it boils down to the fact that either him, you or Olie are the last wolf and I can't imagine it's olie and you've been slightly (very slightly) less wolfy than he has.

jeheinz72 · 05-13-2008, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I would rather get the confirmed wolf, Jackal, and go from there. I'm either voting Jackal or Olliegirl and am more likely to vote Jackal I think.

Fair enough. Like I said, I'm trusting you more than him at the moment. I'll put this in now and think on it overnight

Vote The Jackal

PurdueBrad · 05-13-2008, 03:53 PM

Heinz, RendeR and Jackal each claimed each other as wolves, right? That means one of them has to be a wolf. Am I recalling this correctly?

Current vote:

vote the Jackal

jeheinz72 · 05-13-2008, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Heinz, RendeR and Jackal each claimed each other as wolves, right? That means one of them has to be a wolf. Am I recalling this correctly?

Current vote:

vote the Jackal

Yeah, you have it right. Don't get me wrong, Jackal has got to be 100% wolf. I was just trying to think a step ahead.

PurdueBrad · 05-13-2008, 04:25 PM

No, I agree but we were so sure about RendeR, let's just get the one we now know and lay off of olliegirl for now.

jeheinz72 · 05-13-2008, 04:29 PM

Yeah, prolly right

I'm outta here until tomorrow AM, peace out homies.

Neon_Chaos · 05-14-2008, 03:09 AM

I am loving all this strategy talk.

PurdueBrad · 05-14-2008, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

I am loving all this strategy talk.

Hi Neon,

Ahhh, at least somebody is enjoying it. Although I'm sure the wolves are too since they had us running in circles yesterday. Maybe we can do better today. Of course, it is in all of our best interest to dump one wolf, after that, things get interesting. Although I'm doubting that I'm allowed to live through the rest of today.

Neon_Chaos · 05-14-2008, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Hi Neon,

Ahhh, at least somebody is enjoying it. Although I'm sure the wolves are too since they had us running in circles yesterday. Maybe we can do better today. Of course, it is in all of our best interest to dump one wolf, after that, things get interesting. Although I'm doubting that I'm allowed to live through the rest of today.

Keep an eye on jeheinz.

He still thinks that White can slam dunk this, when it's clear that the Wolves are creeping ever so closer to a win.

Come to think of it, I haven't heard back from ntn regarding my one-time offer on the table.

PurdueBrad · 05-14-2008, 07:22 AM

I agree with you Neon, we're all (white, black, and villager) in precarious situations.

7 players left: 5 white (2 wolves likely, 3 non-wolves), 2 black

Assuming we lynch the wolf and they night kill a white piece (I'm thinking me), we're at 3 white (1 wolf), 2 black. Then I would MUCH rather see the remaining pieces get that last wolf and play chess the rest of the way.

Narcizo · 05-14-2008, 08:37 AM

I'm afraid I've been very confused by the course of today's events and this has put me off. I screwed up protecting mccollins because I thought that I was going to be targeted because I'm paranoid. I also gave heinz every reason to believe that I'm a wolf in a couple of PMs and understand that (if he's a villager) he thinks I'm a wolf. I shall do my best to capture the king but realise that no-one is going to listen to me.

PurdueBrad · 05-14-2008, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I'm afraid I've been very confused by the course of today's events and this has put me off. I screwed up protecting mccollins because I thought that I was going to be targeted because I'm paranoid. I also gave heinz every reason to believe that I'm a wolf in a couple of PMs and understand that (if he's a villager) he thinks I'm a wolf. I shall do my best to capture the king but realise that no-one is going to listen to me.

Narcizo, I have not written you off yet, I'm still deciding who the other wolf is. Focusing now on getting the one wolf we do know would probably be a big point in your favor though.

jeheinz72 · 05-14-2008, 08:50 AM

Looks like not much overnight.

Narc, I got your PM. If you're a villager in this mess, not only would I be shocked but the non-block on Collins cost us the game. We would've had Collins and PB on row 8, you on 7 and me on 6. It woulda been Crocodile DoneDeal there my friend. Once the two pawn guys (just one of them really) get queened we had/have Neon mated.

Now it's me on 6 and just PB on 8 (who I think is the other villager). Neon can use that gap in the middle.

PB, if you got queened, I need to know. It'll greatly impact my next move as we head for Neon.

Passacaglia · 05-14-2008, 09:08 AM

Just another reminder that deadline is 12 PM Eastern today -- in less than two hours.

Passacaglia · 05-14-2008, 09:14 AM

Vote count:

Quote:

The Jackal -- Narcizo (1672), jeheinz72 (1683), PurdueBrad (1684)

Neon_Chaos · 05-14-2008, 09:18 AM

Vote jeheinz72

jeheinz72 · 05-14-2008, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Vote jeheinz72

??

Here I am man voting out a white piece and you're voting for me? Huh?

PurdueBrad · 05-14-2008, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

??

Here I am man voting out a white piece and you're voting for me? Huh?

I think he's more threatened by your position on the board, which might be a clue that we should stop talking board positioning for a while (which is my fault since I discussed mine earlier as well).

jeheinz72 · 05-14-2008, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I think he's more threatened by your position on the board, which might be a clue that we should stop talking board positioning for a while (which is my fault since I discussed mine earlier as well).

True, that makes sense. Though he can see me, easily, so it can't hurt me. Plus, he can't kill me on the board.

Anyhow, PB, did you queen one of your pawns?

05-13-2008, 02:10 PM	#1653
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	GAH!

05-13-2008, 02:10 PM	#1654
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	GAH!

05-13-2008, 02:13 PM	#1657
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	gAH!

05-13-2008, 02:16 PM	#1660
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Boom. One time offer to the White King, You still think you can win? Our best shot at this is a stalemate. Time is a ticking. Holler back if you want to work out a deal to try and weed out the wolves. It's simple really. Let's not have this game put in the hands of the wolves via the vote. Everyone votes for you today, and you get to pick who you want to lynch... that way, no surprises, and 100% responsibility on your shoulders. Tomorrow, everyone votes for me, and same thing. The game is placed in the hands of the two pieces that cannot die. One time offer on the table, yes or no. __________________ Come and see.

05-13-2008, 02:56 PM	#1674
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Nobody EVER listens to me. Someday you MIGHT want to try it. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

05-13-2008, 02:06 PM	#1651
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	looks right Pass

05-13-2008, 02:09 PM	#1652
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	After most of White seems content with its political campaign against Black for the time being, the pieces decide to re-focus on the wolf problem. While a sizable contingent still argues for oliegirl to go, the majority look at RendeR and point to the gallows. RendeR looks down, sighs, and accepts his fate. RendeR was a White Bishop and a villager! The night passes again with not much to speak of, but you awake to find that mccollins has not joined you. mccollins controlled four White Pawns!

05-13-2008, 02:11 PM	#1655
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	RendeR was a villager? GAH indeed!

05-13-2008, 02:14 PM	#1658
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	I screwed up guys. Sorry.

05-13-2008, 02:17 PM	#1661
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	I implore people to start thinking black/white though instead of wolves/village. With that said though, I'm pretty sure I know who Jackal's comrade is. It's my partner, Narcizo. I implored him in private to protect mccollins, since collins was our ace in the hole about-to-be-queened. So what happenes, Collins dies. Wolf wolf wolf.

05-13-2008, 02:19 PM	#1663
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	The longer you leave olie alive, the less chance you have of winning.

05-13-2008, 02:20 PM	#1665
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	NTN - Don't be a sucker and take Neon's idea.

05-13-2008, 02:23 PM	#1667
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	All PMs have been sent out. I'm going to make a deadline of 12 PM tomorrow for Day 7.

05-13-2008, 02:36 PM	#1672
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Vote Jackal He says Render was a wolf. Render wasn't a wolf. Ergo - Jackal is a wolf.

05-13-2008, 02:42 PM	#1673
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	Argh. NTN and PB I need your thoughts here. We know a wolf, we know we need to remove olie.

05-13-2008, 03:49 PM	#1681
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	I would rather get the confirmed wolf, Jackal, and go from there. I'm either voting Jackal or Olliegirl and am more likely to vote Jackal I think.

05-13-2008, 03:49 PM	#1682
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	Regarding Narcizo's wolfiness: - Voted KWhit instead of hoops on Day one, albeit I made the same mistake, so I can't really hold this against him - He actually suggested in PM to me when Anxiety was outed that Qwik and Cronin were wolves 3 and 4. He alluded to this a few pages back. Kinda strange he'd mention those two given they were the next two night kills after Qwik caught Anxiety. - The whole debacle on his ability to protect against wolf attack, yet the ONE player we MOST should have protected, who he TOLD me he was protecting ends up dying. That alone sealed it for me. I've been back-and-forth on him all game, hesitant to even share my board position with him, but when he did this, it cemented it in my mind. I'm not 100% sure taking him out first makes the most sense, but I'm pretty sure his and Jackal's plan once White had the major advantage was to split up and defend the kings manually. Hence Jackal stays near NTN and Narc makes his move up the left towards Neon. My guess is now he'll get in the way or our snipes at Neon. Of course, I could be all wrong here, but for me it boils down to the fact that either him, you or Olie are the last wolf and I can't imagine it's olie and you've been slightly (very slightly) less wolfy than he has.

05-13-2008, 03:53 PM	#1684
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Heinz, RendeR and Jackal each claimed each other as wolves, right? That means one of them has to be a wolf. Am I recalling this correctly? Current vote: vote the Jackal

05-13-2008, 04:25 PM	#1686
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	No, I agree but we were so sure about RendeR, let's just get the one we now know and lay off of olliegirl for now.

05-13-2008, 04:29 PM	#1687
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	Yeah, prolly right I'm outta here until tomorrow AM, peace out homies.

05-14-2008, 03:09 AM	#1688
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	I am loving all this strategy talk. __________________ Come and see.

05-14-2008, 07:22 AM	#1691
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	I agree with you Neon, we're all (white, black, and villager) in precarious situations. 7 players left: 5 white (2 wolves likely, 3 non-wolves), 2 black Assuming we lynch the wolf and they night kill a white piece (I'm thinking me), we're at 3 white (1 wolf), 2 black. Then I would MUCH rather see the remaining pieces get that last wolf and play chess the rest of the way.

05-14-2008, 08:37 AM	#1692
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	I'm afraid I've been very confused by the course of today's events and this has put me off. I screwed up protecting mccollins because I thought that I was going to be targeted because I'm paranoid. I also gave heinz every reason to believe that I'm a wolf in a couple of PMs and understand that (if he's a villager) he thinks I'm a wolf. I shall do my best to capture the king but realise that no-one is going to listen to me.

05-14-2008, 08:50 AM	#1694
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	Looks like not much overnight. Narc, I got your PM. If you're a villager in this mess, not only would I be shocked but the non-block on Collins cost us the game. We would've had Collins and PB on row 8, you on 7 and me on 6. It woulda been Crocodile DoneDeal there my friend. Once the two pawn guys (just one of them really) get queened we had/have Neon mated. Now it's me on 6 and just PB on 8 (who I think is the other villager). Neon can use that gap in the middle. PB, if you got queened, I need to know. It'll greatly impact my next move as we head for Neon.

05-14-2008, 09:08 AM	#1695
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Just another reminder that deadline is 12 PM Eastern today -- in less than two hours.

05-14-2008, 09:18 AM	#1697
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Vote jeheinz72 __________________ Come and see.

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