08-20-2006, 09:43 AM | #1651 |
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i believe you Barkeep
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08-20-2006, 09:57 AM | #1652 | |
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I'll repeat this for St. C since it looks like the villagers are doomed anyhow let's end this game now, killing me clinches a loss for the villagers. unvote barkeep vote SnDvls |
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08-20-2006, 10:01 AM | #1653 |
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VOTE SNDVLS
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08-20-2006, 10:32 AM | #1654 | |
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08-20-2006, 11:17 AM | #1655 | |
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Ya, I could tell yesterday you were about to self-destruct. It's just a game big boy. |
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08-20-2006, 12:57 PM | #1656 |
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could sndvls just be trying to draw pity to sway the vote away from him by suiciding...figuring that we will all switch to another innocent?
this idea gives me pause...I will ponder on it as I go get fitted for a tux for my friend's wedding. and i'd like to thank the wolves for taking out a baddie...surprising to me they havnt gone after swaggs/barkeep though, especially with no hidden roles to protect our guys...could swaggs be leading us all down a path to destruction along with his come-lately wolfy buddy barkeep?? ponder on that. |
08-20-2006, 01:04 PM | #1657 |
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Most people who've done the stupid self vote have been villagers. However, like offering a year of Hattrick, I thought this was a plague we'd erradicated from WW.
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08-20-2006, 01:48 PM | #1658 |
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Well that's a bummer. I just realized I missed the vote yesterday, and I'm dead.
See, I told you I didn't know wtf was going on |
08-20-2006, 02:04 PM | #1659 | |
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We believe you............................. now |
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08-20-2006, 02:09 PM | #1660 | |
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LOL! All it took was stake to the heart.... |
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08-20-2006, 02:10 PM | #1661 | |
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Ya, as annoying at the Sndvls thing is, it is giving me second thoughts about role. Earlier, I made a comment about how the WWs were likely someone we weren't talking about, and I used him name as example - he jumped all over me. It does seem like odd wolf behavior. I'm not swithching my vote yet, but I'm going to take a closer look at Gram. |
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08-20-2006, 02:11 PM | #1662 |
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Last self vote was Qwikshot in the Sith/Jedi WW game months ago.
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08-20-2006, 02:12 PM | #1663 |
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Also, despite what Sundvls said, the villagers actually have a little breathing room now, with dracula dead, and still no masons dead. So with three wolves, we're 7-3, though I still think there's a chance there's only 2 wolves, based on the imbalance in special roles between the sides.
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08-20-2006, 02:12 PM | #1664 |
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Unless you count Fouts in the Necro game, but he had a reason to do so
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08-20-2006, 02:32 PM | #1665 | |
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It is entirely possible that I am leading you down the wrong path, but I'm trying my best with the information given. The one thing that I can assure you is that I do not have any wolf buddies. or mason buddies. |
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08-20-2006, 02:33 PM | #1666 | |
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molson: It could easily be 6-4 right now. 7-3 is also a possibility but if it's 6-4 and we lynch wrong, they could win the game with a successful night kill. |
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08-20-2006, 02:34 PM | #1667 | |
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08-20-2006, 02:35 PM | #1668 | |
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08-20-2006, 02:46 PM | #1669 | |
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I'm still not on board with this idea. If we decide to do this, the masons themselves really can't do anything about it, I guess., so they really don't get any input into the decision. I have no idea what their numbers are, but since we have no other apparent special skills in our favor, I am hopeful that they began with at least an equal number to the wolves. I guess I'm just not sure it is worth the exposure, but I am willing to listen to the pros and cons. |
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08-20-2006, 02:48 PM | #1670 |
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Just thought of this, but it also gives Reimann a better chance to correctly identify the wolves through his testing, potentially giving the wolves another voting ally.
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08-20-2006, 02:53 PM | #1671 |
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I'm ok with giving the wolves a better shot. Let's say there are 4 bad guys. That makes 6 good guys. If we can identify the 2 masons that means we have a 50/50 shot of finding a bad guy. That is a 25% improvement over our current chance.
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08-20-2006, 03:45 PM | #1672 | |
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08-20-2006, 03:49 PM | #1673 | |
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08-20-2006, 04:06 PM | #1674 |
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more is happening today than i expected.
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08-20-2006, 04:06 PM | #1675 | |
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i'm really surprised the badguys havn't killed you or swaggs barkeep... |
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08-20-2006, 04:07 PM | #1676 | |
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Hmmm you got a stake thru the heart, now lets put on thru your mouth so you stay quiet |
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08-20-2006, 04:08 PM | #1677 | |
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08-20-2006, 04:48 PM | #1678 |
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who did you replace again Barkeep?
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08-20-2006, 04:58 PM | #1679 | |
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08-20-2006, 09:15 PM | #1680 |
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ahh yea i remember now, sick wife. hope shes better
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08-20-2006, 09:40 PM | #1681 | |
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That was me. I think Schmidty had missed a few votes and just felt bad, so he stepped back for this game. |
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08-20-2006, 09:47 PM | #1682 |
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Schmidty didn't like all of you so he stepped away, frustrated with himself over missing a couple votes, and instead had me come in.
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08-20-2006, 10:14 PM | #1683 |
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??? Schmidty didn't like us?
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08-20-2006, 10:16 PM | #1684 | |
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Just you, I think... |
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08-20-2006, 10:16 PM | #1685 |
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Just kidding, by the way.
I think he just felt bad b/c he had missed some votes and hadn't contributed, so he pulled out. |
08-20-2006, 10:30 PM | #1686 | |
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08-20-2006, 11:33 PM | #1687 |
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I just re-read a lot of the game, and have come to the conclusion that everyone is suspicious.
Swaggs, tanglewood, Bulletsponge - if any of these guys are wolves, they've done a damn good job of generally averting suspicion. If I were a wolf, I'd play a lot like these guys. Stay out of controversy, post consistently, make a lot of general "observational" posts, ask questions about the game, only accuse those who have some momentum building against them. We were critized in lynching Blade basically because there was "too much evidence" against him. If it instead lack of evidence that suggests guilt, these three look suspicious. I think at least one of them is a wolf, but how do you distinguish them? Chief Rum - Blade seemed sure about him. I don't know much else, except that Blade was right about the people he trusted. (with Schmidty/Barkeep still up in the air). sndvls - if it weren't for his tantrums the last 2 days I'd have a lot of confidence about sndvls. Voting for himself was lame, but you'd imagine a wolf would put up some kind of fight. You're really throwing your fellow wolves under the bus by doing this so far in advance of the deadline. I can maybe see acting like that if you're on your own, but this isn't fair to other wolves, depriving them of even a chance to subtly turn things around. Barkeep/Schmidty - Schmidty was busy, but he wasn't hospital/family problems kind of busy. I still think if he was a wolf, he would have stayed around. dodgerchick- If she's a wolf, she's playing the role brillantly. She's not getting the suspicion Farrah got, and I'm not totally sure why. daddytorgo - He had a couple of very subtle suspcious moments when I look back. Had some deadline vote switches. He also points out his newness and confusion in almost every other post (even though he seems to have gotten the hang of things quickly). grammaticus - it's pretty amazing he's still alive. He's had more than one deadline vote switch that has killed villagers. Lathum had a good analysis of gram's day 2 voting in post 744. His early activity was risky, but he would know that being quiet would make him look likewise suspicious, and by talking, he at least could throw out some bad theories. |
08-21-2006, 12:01 AM | #1688 |
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you left yourself out molson.
and i know i'm innocent. it did take me awhile to get the hang of anything about this game (explaining the day 1 and day 2 vote switches), and I still feel like I'm mostly lost. |
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lol, that's why I've become addicted. It seems like everyone has at one point or another become a suspect. I'm totally guilty of looking WAAAAY too hard at posts and attempting to figure out their true meaning. Quote:
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08-21-2006, 02:27 AM | #1691 |
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Well, I am checking out until post-vote. Like last Monday (pretty much every Monday and Tuesday, actually), I work both jobs tomorrow and won't have FOFC access until late tomorrow. So don't be shocked at my lack of posting.
My vote for Sndvls is already posted, and I am allowing it to stand. Good luck to us all tomorrow--may a wolf be at the end of the stake for once.
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08-21-2006, 09:52 AM | #1692 | |
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Someone do a Molson report |
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08-21-2006, 10:08 AM | #1693 |
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AlanT will be handling today's write-up. Night actions will still be sent to me, and I should have those results posted before dawn.
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08-21-2006, 10:18 AM | #1694 |
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I just keep getting mixed feelings about SnDvls. At one point it feels right based on Swaggs theory of him being left alone after the Blade vote and his "what if" theory, the next I think he is okay. His avoiding Blade two nights in a row is making him look better than many of us, though. Don't feel a SnDvl vote is right.
I think my initial vote on him today was knee jerk based on his self vote, which I don't think is good for villagers. So, if you are a villager, don't do it. It could also be him just getting prepared for a close vote between him and someone else. You know at the last minute, he unvotes himself and votes the other candidate, gaining two votes in his favor. Either way it is not a piece of evidence he is a wolf. UNVOTE SNDVLS |
08-21-2006, 11:25 AM | #1695 |
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VOTE MOLSON
He is my longest running suspect and is listed on most peoples suspect list. Not to mention, he was on all of the dead villager's suspect lists. |
08-21-2006, 11:47 AM | #1696 |
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4 - SnDvls - Swaggs, molson, ChiefRum, SnDvls 1 - molson - Grammaticus |
08-21-2006, 12:16 PM | #1697 |
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Gramm is rapidly climbing my list with the vote changing.
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08-21-2006, 12:24 PM | #1698 | |
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08-21-2006, 12:27 PM | #1699 | |
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How many times have you changed your votes? |
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08-21-2006, 12:33 PM | #1700 |
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This is probably risky from a self-preservation standpoint to take a vote away from the leader, but I really think SNDVLS is the wrong direction.
Gram's voting has been been pretty blatantly suspicious. And I can see him taking away a vote from a villager leading the vote standings as a way to clean that up the voting record a bit. He might figure he'll look better if Sndvls is lynched a villager. UNVOTE SNDVLS VOTE GRAMMATICUS |
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