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Old 12-13-2006, 05:08 PM   #1601
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understood, but yypicaly when there is a failed conversion the target is able to identify the converter

It was a thin man dressed in black with a yellow flower on his lapel. He wore a low riding hat that shrouded his face in the darkness. I was not meant to know who tried to convert me, sorry. I wish i knew too
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:12 PM   #1602
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So whos in the duel today? CW and ....one of the 3 dukes?
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:15 PM   #1603
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So whos in the duel today? CW and ....one of the 3 dukes?

Well, we could always just lynch someone...
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:16 PM   #1604
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can we duel now or do we have to wait till lynch time

Jesus. Not only am I likely to get my ass kicked by a girl, but she's looking forward to it.

This has been a bad day.

But LSG, don't count those chickens yet -- I am good at attack.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:17 PM   #1605
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IMO we haven't really learned much from the duels. I think we learn more at this point from a straight lynch and since it seems CW may have been lying he seems the best choice to me.

Plus we are going to have a duel tonight regardless.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:20 PM   #1606
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My problem is that they seem to have the ring of truth. There are enough details in common to make them match, but there is enough missing to make it odd. Tyrith's seeming contradictions seem odd as well. I'm just wondering if there is any chance they put this story together.

1. Tyrith comes out with a reveal when he isn't in danger because he fears Hoops' attack.
2. Tyrith comes out with a story with a couple of firm details.
3. Blade confirms the firm details while insisting Tyrith missed much of the events.
4. Blade still seems to trust Tyrith when he is usually very mistrustful.
5. Tyrith's details seem a bit contradictory.

It just feels off...especially the fact that Blade trusts Tyrith even though nobody has scanned him. Blade isn't usually that trusting.

Exactly what I was thinking while reading blade's reaction. He never trusts people that aren't 100% cleared, but he accepts Tyrith's hole-filled story? Something is going on.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:24 PM   #1607
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Well, we could always just lynch someone...

Granted, and i like the idea..i always just assume we are more likely to catch bad guys jockying for their man if we keep it close for a duel. If we pick one person and lynch him, the bad guys are just going to jump on the bandwagon. If CW turns up evil in a lynch, where do we turn next if everyone voted for him? Brainstorming here, sorry if you dont want to
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:25 PM   #1608
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unvote coffee warlord

vote blade

something doesn't add up, I find it hard to believe blade is a former musketeer, they try to convert him, then he can't identify one of his old mates. Plus he is pushing for a duel when we need to be lynching someone
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:29 PM   #1609
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Well arent you quick to jump on the momentum, be it CW or me...

Im good, and lynching me will only bring you troubles lathum
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:32 PM   #1610
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Well arent you quick to jump on the momentum, be it CW or me...

Im good, and lynching me will only bring you troubles lathum

what momentum?

as far as I know I am the first one to vote you?

way to try and deflect the attention away from you
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:33 PM   #1611
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sigh....blade, you should challenge lathum
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:33 PM   #1612
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actually...blade is important. is there anyone with any dueling skill besides me or blade left that can do a challenge now?
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:35 PM   #1613
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actually...blade is important. is there anyone with any dueling skill besides me or blade left that can do a challenge now?

There's only one challenge duel a day and today is booked.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:35 PM   #1614
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a challenge is pointless, there has already been an accepted challange.

can someone explain to me why Tyrith thinks blade is so important?
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:35 PM   #1615
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Good lord, we're voting for our quasi seer now?

And if I read the rules right, one duel per night. So challenging would be pointless.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:37 PM   #1616
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There's only one challenge duel a day and today is booked.

We can have another challenge accepted and figure out which one takes priority.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:37 PM   #1617
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sigh....blade, you should challenge lathum

He wont accept i bet, but ill try.

CHALLENGE LATHUM TO A DUEL

If he believes me to be evil, he should accept and take his shot. I have done everything I can to help us win so far.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:37 PM   #1618
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a challenge is pointless, there has already been an accepted challange.

can someone explain to me why Tyrith thinks blade is so important?

Well, there are only two ways that this works:

-blade is bad.
-blade is a seer.

See why I think he might be important if he's good?
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:38 PM   #1619
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does anyone else get the feeling Blade and Tyrith are doing a 1-2?
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:38 PM   #1620
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There's only one challenge duel a day and today is booked.

No, the GM decides which duel is run if multiple are accepted
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:38 PM   #1621
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"If multiple challenges occur and you cannot work out who should fight, the GM will determine. This will usually result in the first challenge accepted taking the duel. Although a particularly grievous event could trump first acceptance."
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:39 PM   #1622
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We can decide who should duel if we have two accepted. this means that we can probably get the path/lsg duel shoved aside if we need to.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:39 PM   #1623
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Only one challenge duel will be conducted per day. This can result in two duels at the end of a day. One from the challenge and one from a less than majority lynch vote. If multiple challenges occur and you cannot work out who should fight, the GM will determine. This will usually result in the first challenge accepted taking the duel. Although a particularly grievous event could trump first acceptance.

Hmm. Looks like M. Grammaticus makes the call, which would likely be the one with myself and Mme. LSG, but I guess if you put together another one there's a chance it could be accepted. I don't know what qualifies as a 'grievous event' though.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:40 PM   #1624
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Lathum, if you think blade is bad take his challenge. We can afford to lose you. Otherwise, yeah.

VOTE LATHUM
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:40 PM   #1625
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Lathum vs blade might just count as grievous...

Lathum, cronin votes you and you get a little(very little, but a little) heat. Suddenly when your top two in votes(with CW) you come out swining and accusing left and right. Ya, thats not odd.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:40 PM   #1626
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Read the rules post I put up! We can figure out ourselves who should duel BEFORE it gets to Gram.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:40 PM   #1627
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decline duel

I am ineffective in everything so there is no way I could win and commiting suicide would be no help to us.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:42 PM   #1628
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Read the rules post I put up! We can figure out ourselves who should duel BEFORE it gets to Gram.


You're right. I actually copied the damn thing and then STILL missed that part.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:43 PM   #1629
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Not that it matters at this point. Hrm. This is all so freaking odd.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:44 PM   #1630
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Hm....damn. I don't know what to think anymore.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:46 PM   #1631
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Hm....damn. I don't know what to think anymore.

you're telling me. this is all crazy.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:46 PM   #1632
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BTW, whoever is controlling me is gonna get my day 1 vote for now on.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:47 PM   #1633
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does anyone else get the feeling Blade and Tyrith are doing a 1-2?

Very high possibility. I am voting for one of them tonight.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:47 PM   #1634
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Lathum vs blade might just count as grievous...

Lathum, cronin votes you and you get a little(very little, but a little) heat. Suddenly when your top two in votes(with CW) you come out swining and accusing left and right. Ya, thats not odd.

Blade, to say top 2 in votes is A JOKE!!! there were 2 total votes cast at the time and to say I came out swinging is a joke. I clearly stated this morning I was leaning towards voting CW so my vote there should be no surprise.

I then started analyzing the exchange between you and tyrith and IMO it doesn't add up. People can take your kool-aid if they want to but I have done nothing this game except help the cardinal guard win.

Again, I find it hard to believe YOU were a musketeer, they were dumb enough to attempt a conversion yet you could not identify a former mate. If attempting to call you out gets me killed so be it but I think my style of play in the past proves I am not afraid to take a chance calling someone out.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:48 PM   #1635
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Very high possibility. I am voting for one of them tonight.

If Blade is a bad guy, that throws a lot of people he's vouched for out the window.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:49 PM   #1636
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Well, I think blade is certainly skilled enough to have been pulling an insane stunt here. We have no way of actively disproving it.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:49 PM   #1637
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decline duel

I am ineffective in everything so there is no way I could win and commiting suicide would be no help to us.
If you think me a liar then im lying about my skills too.

Suprise suprise..i say maybe one of the 3 dukes(lathum being one) and he attacks me. Didnt see that one coming
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:49 PM   #1638
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Well, there is always one option available...but if we're both good, then it's really, REALLY gonna screw us.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:50 PM   #1639
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Lathum vs blade might just count as grievous...

Lathum, cronin votes you and you get a little(very little, but a little) heat. Suddenly when your top two in votes(with CW) you come out swining and accusing left and right. Ya, thats not odd.

Wow, you question Lathum over his suspicions?

But... you are willing to accept Tyrith and Brian listening/watching hoops door, plus all the other suspicious stuff? Where is the old blade that mistrusts everyone?
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:50 PM   #1640
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If Blade is a bad guy, that throws a lot of people he's vouched for out the window.

not true. He could have been converted last night
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:51 PM   #1641
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Wow, you question Lathum over his suspicions?

But... you are willing to accept Tyrith and Brian listening/watching hoops door, plus all the other suspicious stuff? Where is the old blade that mistrusts everyone?
I scanned brian, i scanned hoops, and tyrith is the only person claiming bodyguard in a game in which i fully expect a bodyguard.

Yet 3 of you are claiming duke, and granted two of us are claiming seer.

I just find it hilarious i say CW and one of the 3 dukes and suddenly 2 of those dukes are all over me.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:52 PM   #1642
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If Blade is a bad guy, that throws a lot of people he's vouched for out the window.

Quite possible he wasn't a bad guy until last night. A converted blade explains alot.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:53 PM   #1643
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VOTE LATHUM

Tyrith (who was there) trusts Blade's story. There may be more going on there (IMO a distinct possibility), but if there is it's between the two of them and they would fill us in if it was necessary. I have to think that if the conversion attempt was going to be successful then the bodyguard would have been able to intercept it.

There is no one who has vouched for Lathum's actions at night, and that list is quite small right now.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:53 PM   #1644
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I scanned brian, i scanned hoops, and tyrith is the only person claiming bodyguard in a game in which i fully expect a bodyguard.

Yet 3 of you are claiming duke, and granted two of us are claiming seer.

I just find it hilarious i say CW and one of the 3 dukes and suddenly 2 of those dukes are all over me.

Yeah, and we find it hilarious that the old blade went away starting this morning. Ooo maybe all the dukes are in this together, hmmm?
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:53 PM   #1645
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Suprise suprise..i say maybe one of the 3 dukes(lathum being one) and he attacks me. Didnt see that one coming

i don't understand what this means
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:54 PM   #1646
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not true. He could have been converted last night

It's a possibility, but it doesn't add up in my mind.

Why would he even *mention* the conversion, then? There was the line about spilling the beans in case Tyrith had some extra info he was hiding, but if I'm Tyrith, and I have proof of a conversion, I'm spilling it all immediately. That's a confirmed wolf kill.

If Tyrith AND Blade are bad and in it together, again, why mention a black cloaked guy at atll? All that does is paint suspicion on yourselves.

Welcome to alternate logical theories, but I don't get it.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:55 PM   #1647
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Yeah, and we find it hilarious that the old blade went away starting this morning. Ooo maybe all the dukes are in this together, hmmm?
Now if i thought that i would be crazy...you may think i am, but im not.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:56 PM   #1648
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So whos in the duel today? CW and ....one of the 3 dukes?

post #1602...in the next 25 posts both fouts and lathum(dukes) start attacking me
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:56 PM   #1649
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I scanned brian, i scanned hoops, and tyrith is the only person claiming bodyguard in a game in which i fully expect a bodyguard.
U]

IT seems to me barkeep was a bodyguard.

And for what it's worth Daddy Torgo's vote seems very suspicous to me since he is someone who has gotten alot of heat
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:57 PM   #1650
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Now if i thought that i would be crazy...you may think i am, but im not.

I left hoping the mad dog blade would be able to track down what was up last night and came back to some mild blade accepting a suspicious story as ok.
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