10-12-2006, 10:17 PM | #1601 | |
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I hear you and know that you of all of us are well aware of that idea. That's why I thought your response to Fouts about the "good offense" was somewhat odd. Fouts is playing a classic villager to my mind. Of course, that could be a gigantic BS job.......
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10-12-2006, 10:18 PM | #1602 | |
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Do you have a trust list besides the CoT?
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10-12-2006, 10:19 PM | #1603 |
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Dola, I'm also curious about the night 2 conversion. Any thoughts on that?
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10-12-2006, 10:29 PM | #1604 |
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If you mean the CoT of people who saw NTN, then yeah I'm starting to work on one.
I don't think Chubby was the shooter last night. I have him on a role that makes sense for him to be there and acting the way he did. That isn't how I first read it, but I came to this realization pretty quickly this morning. If he isn't the shooter, then he is highly trusted. The person I visited last night was not the shooter, but that isn't enough to gain trust yet. I'm pretty certain they do not know I was there since there has been no recognition on their part on this point. I don't have absolute trust in Swaggs - a Cowboy could gain a certain amount of trust by saving GE and then having him gunned down soon thereafter. I think this is an advanced play, pretty high risk, and not all that consistent with Swaggs' play in other games. So I don't think this is the case but I don't consider him 100% cleared either. Also, the conversion was Night 1, not Night 2. The Cowboys can, and have, executed multiple moves in one cycle. |
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10-12-2006, 10:34 PM | #1606 | |
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Wait, there was a confirmed conversion? I must have missed that. Only thing I have heard about a conversion was people doubting my actions on Night 2 with Saldana and calling it an attempted conversion. On Night 1, Thomkal was killed, and last night, GE. Night 2 was the night without a kill. What did I miss?
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10-12-2006, 10:36 PM | #1607 |
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I alluded earlier in the game to a conversion. This is the first time I have posted about knowing what night it took place.
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10-12-2006, 10:39 PM | #1608 | |
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Can you share more about that? And if you know about it, don't you know the people involved?
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10-12-2006, 10:39 PM | #1609 | |
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So do you have a best guess as to the number of cowboys we're looking at? N+1, apparently. We've got what, 20 players? So three, maybe four now?
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10-12-2006, 10:42 PM | #1610 | |
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Kind of like what Alan did to GE in my game. Burned him knowing he had the sympathizer to fall back on and gained himself a bunch of trust.
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10-12-2006, 10:46 PM | #1611 |
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We started with 21 players and they had a conversion. I would expect they started with 3-4 and now have 4-5.
The conversion mechanic is just a bribe - or at least that is the one I know about. I will be surprised if the other vices manifest themselves in this manner. |
10-12-2006, 10:54 PM | #1612 | |
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But how would you know about this and not know who was involved?
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10-12-2006, 10:54 PM | #1613 | |
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Regardless, it stands then that vices should be guarded very tightly. Does that throw any suspicion onto some of those whose vices have become at least somewhat known?
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10-12-2006, 10:55 PM | #1614 | |
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So possible conversions would have the vice of money. ok I still don't understand how the Power vice comes into play. |
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10-12-2006, 10:58 PM | #1615 |
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Chief, I think the same way the Mortician finds out how a person died but not who shot them.
That probably is coming off as more smart-ass than I intended when I initlally typed it but for game purposes I believe it to be true. If I knew the identity of the person who had been converted I would have posted it right away. I'm all for the early trade as a villager and would have been willing to do this rather than allow the person to roam free for four days. |
10-12-2006, 11:02 PM | #1616 |
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I really do need to get some sleep. I'll try to be on before the deadline to answer questions about this in the event something happens that would keep me from talking after 8 (CST) tomorrow morning.
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10-12-2006, 11:05 PM | #1617 |
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I would suggest it has something to do with one of the roles, whose identity I don't want to state since we know who that person is. I'm guessing that this person is somehow able to explot/gather info on those with the power vice.
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10-12-2006, 11:09 PM | #1618 |
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Ok Barkeep. Thanks. I had the idea of the other 3 but that one was confusing me a bit.
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10-12-2006, 11:18 PM | #1619 | |
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Couple of things. You think I've been quiet? I thought I was contributing to the situation, trying to puzzle out who is who, and what is what. I didn't think I was quiet. I wholly agree with this last point though. There are lots of people that voted to lynch Gram, and didn't get off. Some of those people voted to lynch GE. That is a place to start in my opinion. Anxiety, I'm unsure of. Lathum, I'm unsure of, Hoops isn't far behind Saladana who still hasn't really answered why he chose to let the town go two days without a lynch. |
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10-12-2006, 11:21 PM | #1620 |
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Just got back and caught up...
Well, damn. I definitely would have removed my vote lynch vote on Gram. When taking care of his body, I found plans showing he had guarded some folks and plans showing he planned to guard folks in the future. I don't know who he planned to guard in the future. It wasn't that specific. |
10-12-2006, 11:22 PM | #1621 |
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Hey guys, just letting you know I will not have computer access from about 10 am EST tomorrow until about 7 pm EST on Saturday.
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10-12-2006, 11:34 PM | #1622 |
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Alright just so y'all aren't surprised.
I plan to Jail LoneStar Girl and Release Swaggs. If anybody has issue with this let me know. |
10-12-2006, 11:42 PM | #1623 |
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Does someone have the voting records for GE's and Gram's trials? I'm softening on Hoops. I still not sure about NtN and his ever growing circle of trust. Hell, can they all be cowboys? I think I can hear the cowboys laughing at me, but I'm afraid their laughing at all of us.
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10-12-2006, 11:44 PM | #1624 |
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I don't have an issue NtN, but I've got others I suspect more. Can you share your thoughts about LSG? She tried to garner the sheriff job, so that doesn't make her high on my list of Cowboy candidates.
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10-12-2006, 11:44 PM | #1625 |
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I hope we have more to go on in the morning.
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10-12-2006, 11:45 PM | #1626 |
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I dont but Alan has the days set apart that was what...day 2 and day 4?
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10-12-2006, 11:52 PM | #1627 |
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the main reason is that several people have asked that she be Jailed. Chief Rum and Saldana tonight. And Cronin last night. She also is not someone that many have in and CoT.
However. I can be swayed. I have not put in that action yet. And if given a good reason Icould see myself going in a different way. |
10-12-2006, 11:54 PM | #1628 |
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I'm cool with jailing her.
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10-12-2006, 11:57 PM | #1629 |
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Let me also say this, since there seems to be a misconception about what ican do. I can not tell if they are Cowboy or Townsperson.
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10-13-2006, 12:04 AM | #1630 |
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I can tell something about the people I talk to. And I can help some of them see the error of their ways... (so to speak) This last part has yet to happen in the game. I fear that if iwere to talk to those I suspect are cowboys, his last aspect of my role would rear its head and help the cowboys. This is why itry to stick with those I trust at least some.
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10-13-2006, 12:06 AM | #1631 |
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move sent.
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10-13-2006, 12:11 AM | #1632 |
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10-13-2006, 12:21 AM | #1633 | |
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It wasn't supposed to. It is geared toward keeping my CoT growing in the right way. I believe everyone in my CoT will be able to handle any growing mistrust because of this statement. But iwant everyone to realize that when I bring in folks it is not any Mystic power that guided me to them. It is guided on readin the posts like everyone else and coming up with hypotheses and testing them. |
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10-13-2006, 12:22 AM | #1634 |
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Well iam off til the morning. I am sure I will be discussing that statement more when iget free after work.
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10-13-2006, 01:37 AM | #1635 |
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Thanks for clearing that up, ntn. Well, it looks like you wouldn't be able to help me much then, as you would probably discover things I have already revealed (i.e. my role, my skills, etc.). Do we have a true Seer-type player in this game?
I appear to have some influence over those with a vice for women. So I have some limited abilities here. I seem to remember Barkeep mentioning he may have abilities along those lines with those who have the alcohol vice. Perhaps Swaggs with power? My point is, there may be no true seer. It might be best if we have total role reveals at this point, at least those we're not sure will get us killed. Then we can work together to try to figure things out some more. Of course, it's easy for me to talk about role reveals when I am "safe" in a jail, and my role is pretty much out there. So this effort might just die here. I am the brothel girl (duh). I can influence anyone who has a vice for women. It's not automatic, but is more successful if they have a strong vice. I can influence information out of my johns. And upon re-reading my original role PM, it appears I, too, cannot tell someone's allegiance, just their roles and vices. Well, that's a bummer. I also think it would be nice to get a real good showdown going tomorrow. ntn can only jail one player (LSG, it appears). Perhaps bullet can go after another before he drinks himself into a permanent stupor. As for the jail situation, obviously, I would ask to be released, but I don't know that there is any more information I can provide to prove what side I am on. I won't vote right now, as I should be back before the deadline tomorrow night (will be at work all day). As for LSG, she is on my list of players whom I suspect greatly, and I definitely support her jailing.
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10-13-2006, 02:28 AM | #1636 | |
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Can you explain this. I can't understand how you visiting a cowboy would help them. I am really confused as to why you would avoid visiting people you suspect. I don't see an advantage to visiting only good people. |
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10-13-2006, 07:39 AM | #1637 |
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I wish i could show you that i am just a villlager, but I dont have anything. Maybe once I get my night action (IF I get a night action) i'll have something that will convince y'all. Also, there have been a lot more people voting to jail racer, path, or fouts, than me. I dont know why out of the four, you would automatically pick me. And whoever teh seer is, if you want to visit me and see. Feel free. I am nothing but a lonely singer.
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10-13-2006, 07:43 AM | #1638 |
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And why would a cowboy want to sherrif so much? That doesn't seem right to me.
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10-13-2006, 07:58 AM | #1639 |
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Damn, nobody is on, not even alant.
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10-13-2006, 08:02 AM | #1640 |
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Most of the town leaves the square somewhat saddened after the lynching of Grammaticus. Most head to the nearby Saloon for drinks and dinner, which is somewhat less enthusiastic than the previous day. There still is singing and card games, but the conversation tone is much more somber.
Eventually everyone heads home for a full night sleep, hoping they won't be the one targeted this evening. As the morning you all awake, having survived the night! All.... except for one. Word gets around fairly quickly that there was yet another death. Tonight, it was Fouts that was found in his home dead. When will the killings stop... Tired players: Chubby Current Sheriff: Ntndeacon Currently in Jail: Chief Rum Lonestargirl Deadline for Day5: 9:00pm EST Friday night. Your current sheriff is still alive, so a new sheriff is not needed. If you wish to elect a new sheriff, please do so by posting: elect playername Sheriff election is not mandatory as not voting confirms your desire to keep the current sheriff. For a new sheriff to be elected, they must receive more than 50% of the alive townspeople vote. (9 votes) There are two valid players for lynch votes today: Chief Rum and Lonestargirl. If you do not post any lynch vote, it is assumed you wish to not lynch them. To lynch players please post as: Lynch playername. To lynch multiple players, please post: Lynch playername Lynch playername2 In order to lynch a player you must receive more than 50% of the alive townspeople's vote. (9 votes) |
10-13-2006, 08:05 AM | #1641 |
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I think i might need swags to save me tonight. Everybody is going to want a lynching...
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10-13-2006, 08:13 AM | #1642 |
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I am out for the day. I can't say I'm surprised by last nights kill, fouts put a pretty big target on himself. Until LSG has someone vouch for her I think it is a no brainer. I am voting now because I may be gone most of the day but if new info comes out I can change my vote.
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10-13-2006, 08:14 AM | #1643 |
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Before the day's conversations start, also want to talk about the weekend. I can do it one of two ways:
#1 Night 5 ends Sunday morning 9:00am EST. Day 6 ends Monday 9:00pm EST. #2 Night 5 ends Saturday evening 9:00pm EST. Day 6 ends Sunday evening 9:00pm EST. Night 6 ends Monday morning 9:00am EST. Not sure what everyone's availability or desire is to play over the weekend. If you can let me know which you prefer either in thread or via pm, I'll say what the plan is later today. By default, we'll go with the longer schedule unless the majority or most of the people want to go with the quicker schedule with play over the weekend. |
10-13-2006, 08:15 AM | #1644 |
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i'm ok with either
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10-13-2006, 08:18 AM | #1645 |
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Jail St Cronin
If anyone is good with a gun and can intiate a showdown, I reccommend you get rid of St Cronin before he slits another player's throat. |
10-13-2006, 08:21 AM | #1646 |
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I'd prefer #2 as I resume real work next week so playing as much as possible this week, when I am able to post frequently is better personally.
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10-13-2006, 08:41 AM | #1647 |
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No lynch
unjail LoneStarGirl Jail Glengoyne If I was on when you guys were discussing this last night, I would have said this. LSG had the exact same experience as me during night one when Thomkal was shot. The only way she is a Cowboy is if she has been converted since night one. Anxiety, please review what she said concerning night one and that she mentioned both having a pleasant sleep and falling back to sleep shortly after the gunshots before anyone else. |
10-13-2006, 08:46 AM | #1648 |
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Elect Swaggs
This is my last post until Saturday night. Alan T; #1 is better for me this weekend, but either way is fine for me every other weekend. |
10-13-2006, 08:51 AM | #1649 | |
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Chubby is a cowby or More than one cowboy can kill. So a given alibi on any given night doesn't seem to suggest proof that a person isn't a cowboy. |
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10-13-2006, 08:51 AM | #1650 |
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Or, in this case, a cowgirl.
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