03-04-2009, 12:57 PM | #1601 |
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Forsburg is in Denver to announce his retirement.
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03-04-2009, 01:00 PM | #1602 |
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Pens get Billy Guerin
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03-04-2009, 01:01 PM | #1603 |
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Retirement from the NHL or from hockey all together?
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03-04-2009, 01:02 PM | #1604 |
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03-04-2009, 01:04 PM | #1605 |
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This could be quite a funny day if the Leafs don't make any deals....Toronto and the Toronto media may commit hari Kari.
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03-04-2009, 01:15 PM | #1606 |
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false alarm on the Forsberg thing.
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03-04-2009, 01:19 PM | #1607 |
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RDS: Chris Neil traded to Florida
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03-04-2009, 01:22 PM | #1608 |
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The conditions for the Guerin trade...
5th round pick if the Pens don’t make the playoffs 4th round pick if they do 3rd round pick if they get out of the first round Good deal for the Pens. |
03-04-2009, 01:35 PM | #1609 |
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03-04-2009, 01:38 PM | #1610 | |
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So far today for the Bruins: Outgoing: Nokie Lashoff Karsums Incoming: Recchi Montadori TB's 2nd rounder ('10) This is definitely showing the more "Win Now" approach a lot of fans wanted to see. As far as who we let go, it hurts to see Lashoff leave based on potential, but he just hasn't had it click for him yet. I wouldn't be surprised if the B's FO thinks more of Hunwick than Lashoff at this point. Nokie and Karsums are kind of mehhh for me. The 2nd rounder could be pretty good as well, TB probably won't be all that hot next year. Overall, I'm happy with what we got so far. Did I really want Pronger? Yes! But there was just no way we could send Kess/Patrice, picks, Cobourn...the price was just getting too high. Last edited by Sublime 2 : 03-04-2009 at 01:39 PM. |
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03-04-2009, 01:41 PM | #1611 |
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I hope this is true. It will mean the end of the Neil to the Wings rumor that was circulating around.
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03-04-2009, 01:45 PM | #1613 | |
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Agreed. I realize that Lashoff didn't have an extended opportunity to show his stuff but I think Hunwick has passed him on the immediate depth chart anyway. I didn't see much of Karsums since he only played six games but I'm ok with trading him and Nokelainen since neither offer much upside. Montador gives Boston another hybrid player like Hunwick (now) and that's never a bad thing from a depth perspective. I like Recchi on a scoring line and the PP, his presence will surely help.
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03-04-2009, 01:54 PM | #1614 |
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The Flyers deal with Phoenix makes no sense...
Upshall and a 2nd to the Coyotes for Daniel Carcillo |
03-04-2009, 01:55 PM | #1615 |
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Antropov to the Rangers???Where are they getting the cap space?Leafs get a 2nd and a conditional.
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03-04-2009, 01:55 PM | #1616 |
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gotta be a salary dump. morris or j.bo?
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03-04-2009, 02:00 PM | #1618 |
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03-04-2009, 02:01 PM | #1619 |
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Morris to the Rags for Nigel Dawes, Petr Prucha, and Kalinin
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03-04-2009, 02:09 PM | #1620 |
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Neil to Florida was RDS jumping the gun.
Neil stays in Ottawa
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03-04-2009, 02:11 PM | #1621 |
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Okay, so which player snuck in and reset Lowe's alarm clock this morning? I mean, what other reason could there be behind them not doing something at this point. I mean with the scorching power play (hasn't scored in 6), impending UFA's (Cole/Roli) and obvious need for a top line scorer, they should have at least become sellers or buyers right? Maybe even a bit of both? Tried to move Horcoff before his extension and NTC kicks in?
Really Lowe? How about you Tambellini? Nothing huh. Fantastic.
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03-04-2009, 02:13 PM | #1622 |
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Sabres get Moore from Leafs?
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03-04-2009, 02:29 PM | #1623 |
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I like the Rangers moves...fairly low cost. Guess Tortorella was no more a fan of Prucha than Renney.
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03-04-2009, 02:31 PM | #1624 |
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Eminger just got move to Florida for Noah Welch.
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03-04-2009, 02:32 PM | #1625 |
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Dominic Moore goes from Leafs to Sabres for a 2nd round pick.
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03-04-2009, 02:35 PM | #1626 | |
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I guess the Flyers thought they needed to get tougher? What a stupid trade.
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03-04-2009, 02:35 PM | #1627 |
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pretty low key day
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03-04-2009, 02:37 PM | #1628 |
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03-04-2009, 02:39 PM | #1629 |
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Flyers get Kyle McLaren from the Sharks for a 6th rounder.
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03-04-2009, 02:44 PM | #1630 |
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Supposedly the Oilers have made a deal.
$20 says Marty Reasoner is back on the Oilers once all the trades are confirmed. Put it on the board. Championship.
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03-04-2009, 02:56 PM | #1631 |
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The Oilers got Patrick O' Sullivan
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03-04-2009, 02:57 PM | #1632 |
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03-04-2009, 02:57 PM | #1633 |
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WTF? LA trades O'Sullivan to Carolina who trades him to Edmonton?
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03-04-2009, 03:01 PM | #1634 |
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Oilers trade Cole to Carolina for O'Sullivan
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Erik Cole is back! Woohoo!
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03-04-2009, 03:08 PM | #1636 |
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Oilers depth chart
First line forwards: Hemsky Second/third line forwards: Cogliano/Gagner/Nilsson/Penner/Horcoff/O'Sullivan/Moreau/Pisani/Schremp/Brule/Pouliot/Brodziak Way to clean up that mess TambelLoweini
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Ok...This is like a 5-team trade between the Kings, Oilers, Sabres, Hurricanes, Leafs.
The Sabres trade Ales Kotalik to Edmonton for a second-round pick, who then trade that pick to Toronto for Moore. Last edited by Galaxy : 03-04-2009 at 03:11 PM. |
03-04-2009, 03:21 PM | #1638 |
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03-04-2009, 03:22 PM | #1639 |
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Bouwmeester didn't get traded? Huzzah!
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03-04-2009, 03:38 PM | #1640 |
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I know the Blackhawks needed an excellent face-off man, but I liked the potential of Wiz. Nevertheless, the team is set for an excellent 5-10 year run, no need to make any desperation moves for quite a while.
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03-04-2009, 04:28 PM | #1641 |
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So, is this basically what happened (copied from Sabres forum)?
LA <-> Carolina LA gets Williams CAR gets 2nd rounder, O'Sullivan Carolina <-> Edmonton EDM gets 2nd rounder, O'Sullivan CAR gets Cole Edmonton <-> Buffalo EDM gets Kotalik BUF gets 2nd rounder Buffalo <-> Toronto TOR gets 2nd rounder BUF gets Moore |
03-04-2009, 05:06 PM | #1642 |
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I believe so, be a bit easier to read if you tag the 2nd as LA's pick throughout, but I believe that pick is the common one all the way through.
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I don't understand the Ducks dealings at this deadline. Seems they have moved some decent prospects, got some decent prospects back, moved some vets to get some vets back. I don't really see a direction in all of it, plus they didn't get anything for Pronger. Also didn't get nearly enough for Montador who I would have liked to see us at least take a run at resigning next year.
I like the defenseman from Chicago whose name I can't pronounce and the rest of it is just very blah. The two prospects we traded away seem better than anything we got back. Is the German goalie from SJ any good? Is he better than Hiller potentially? I doubt it somehow. Maybe CR can shed some light on it when he gets online later. For now I'm just very uninspired and unimpressed with the way things went down. |
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While I can't speak confidently about the rest of the players Anaheim received, I would say that Petteri Nokelainen for Steve Montador is probably an even swap. Nokelainen is a checking forward in every sense of the word. He has almost no offensive game to speak of--amongst Bruins forwards that played at least 30 games this season, Nokelainen took a team-low 30 shots on goal. While I realize he isn't supposed to score tons of goals he just never seemed to have much offensive instincts in Boston. He could still improve his game in the next couple of years but I think he's a role player with limited upside, which is how I view Montador, too.
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03-04-2009, 09:42 PM | #1645 |
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Thanks, appreciate the insight. He's clearly a replacement for Pahlsson and your assessment makes me feel a little bit better about that trade. I have heard nothing but disappointing things about him however - heard the word "bust" in at least 3 different places. Not sure if you would agree with that or not.
Montador actually has been very impressive this year. He's got a bit of an offensive game, solid defensively and is a great teammate. I'd have loved to see him back next season. |
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Have you warmed up to the deal a little more knowing that we still have a 2nd round pick next year? I was fine with the deals when I thought they were two separate deals...Cole for O'Sullivan...2nd round pick for Kotalik...now I think Tambie did a decent job adding more talent than he moved. Are we Cup contenders...fuck no, but at least they did something to shake things up a little bit. |
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Interesting and calculated gamble on Carolina's part bringing back Cole. The obvious motivation was that Williams has become injury-prone and his salary's been dead weight the last couple of years as a result. He wasn't due to return from his latest problem, a broken hand for a couple more weeks yet. Carolina's somewhat desperate to make the playoffs this year as they need the bottom line help from playoff ticket sales, so they felt compelled to make a move that would be generally popular (Cole was and still is a big fan favorite here) while giving them a healthy body in place of the injured Williams.
I'm sure in the longer term, Carolina also sees a benefit in having not only Williams come off their books ($3.5 mill/yr for next two years), but potentially Cole as well with the anticipated decrease in the salary cap coming next year. While I'm sure they'll make an attempt to re-sign Cole, I would not be surprised if they don't make a very large effort to do so and in fact would be somewhat surprised if he does sign a new deal to stay in Carolina. From what I've read in various places, fan reaction has been somewhat mixed as while they like Cole a lot, they are concerned about his injury status and his age and many have voiced that they should have just kept O'Sullivan and stopped there. However, that doesn't take into account that Carolina is very much a bottom-line-driven organization and I'm sure a key factor in Cole being traded for O'Sullivan was that O'Sullivan was going to be on the hook for a couple of years while Cole was a UFA regardless of which player would be better suited on the ice for Carolina long-term. Having said all that, I still don't think this move makes Carolina a viable playoff team. They're too maddeningly inconsistent to be one (how else to explain a 5-3 loss to Atlanta followed by a 5-2 win over Washington) and it just seems like they're the team most likely to be left out if you had to choose between the Rangers, Buffalo, Florida, Pittsburgh, and Carolina for those final Eastern spots. |
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That is a bonus, but that said, let's see if MacT can do to these two 20 goal scorers what he's done to Lupul, Penner and Cole. Other benefit is that I'd assume Tambellini had to be leading the way in the trade talks as hadn't Buffalo said they wouldn't deal with Lowe? And I never questioned their talent, just why we don't utilize the talent already under contract more effectively and find ways to shed some of the bad contracts so they could afford to make the big splash move sometime during Hemsky's career. Fingers crossed that one of them (preferably O'Sullivan) is a natural fit with Hemsky.
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Yes, I would say Nokelainen is a bust but only because of his draft history not because his playing style hasn't translated from the minors to the NHL. He was taken 16th overall back in 2004. While it's still too early to say definitively that he's a out-and-out bust, teams don't draft checking forwards in the first round so it's safe to say that the Islanders were hoping he would blossom when they picked him. Still, he's younger and under the Ducks' control for another year.
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O'Sullivan, IMO, is a guy similar to Horcoff...except with a little more offensive upside and a little less defensive prowess. He's not as good on the dot but he can hold his own if he has to. He plays a lot of minutes and I think he'll take some of the pressure off of Horc and hopefully playing 3-4 minutes less a night either makes Horc more effective or at the very least, gets him off the ice 3-4 minutes more per game. Again with the current "talent"...huh? Schremp can't score in the AHL...no thanks. Brule couldn't cut it in Columbus...a team that has been worse than us...how is he considered "talent" that we need to utilize? Pouliot has similar stats to Brule...he doesn't create offense and doesn't play a physical game...no thanks. You're right, we need to cut bait on these guys so we have some cap room to make a big splash this summer. Last edited by johnnyshaka : 03-04-2009 at 11:30 PM. |
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