01-25-2017, 02:58 PM | #1601 | |
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I usually get carded, especially at the supermarket since I use the self checkout and the person has to come over and approve before I can continue. However, I was not carded the last two times I went to the liquor store.
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01-25-2017, 03:04 PM | #1602 |
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My wife gets carded still, but I don't, unless they are just being nice. I am 53 and she is 48 and looks much younger, so I expect it. But damn, I am sick of always being that dirty old man with a young chippy, while she gets to smile and play the "Black don't crack" line.
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01-25-2017, 03:30 PM | #1603 | |
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01-25-2017, 03:33 PM | #1604 |
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so, I see Trump's staff are still using non-government e-mails.
Can tarcone, mmbf, or Jon let us know why its ok for the gander? or are ganders the lady gooses? |
01-25-2017, 03:54 PM | #1605 | |
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I get carded at the grocery store to buy beer or wine, and I think at some chain restaurants that require carding everyone, but usually I don't have to show ID to get booze - even at liquor stores.
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01-25-2017, 04:18 PM | #1606 | |
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Or Response: " I am discussing why getting an ID isnt a big deal and you are assuming that the poor dont have a clue why you would need ID." My Mom was 82 when she died. Still had her license. And she grew up in a state where you didnt need a drivers license. But she knew you needed ID. Just because it was a good idea and a safety issue. I cant see why a person would walk around with out ID. what if you die? Or get hurt and are unresponsive? Having ID in todays society is a must have.
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01-25-2017, 04:31 PM | #1607 |
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01-25-2017, 04:35 PM | #1608 | |
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Now, as Goodell showed with Deflategate, Trump can just lie about what was found even when the actual report disproves his statements, and people will be more than happy to go along with it as long as it fits their preferred narrative. But I don't think actual commission's will be inventing things in concert with local election officials. Quote:
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We're trending towards a national ID card anyways, why not just go for it. If you want to opt out for separatist/anarchist reasons, go for it, but even as a fairly libertarian person (sorry for mentioning it Larry!) I have no problem saying that person shouldn't have a say in how our government is run. This doesn't sound right at all, but a perusal of the DHS website says you can verify your identity other ways? Have you actually done this or is it just theoretical (makes sense to have some option for a traveler who loses their ID)? But also with the emphasis on REAL ID being implemented soon I can't imagine it's an easy process. Quote:
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01-25-2017, 04:47 PM | #1612 |
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I go running, biking, kayaking a lot and find it annoying to even have keys in my pocket or on my waistband. Is that a good enough reason, or should I be getting my license/health card wet and risk losing it all the time?
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01-25-2017, 04:57 PM | #1615 |
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I expect they're using them exactly as the Bush admin folks did, as a way to do business with no traces left behind.
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01-25-2017, 05:00 PM | #1616 |
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The thing missing in the ID discussion is the fact that there isn't a good faith intention to make sure IDs are accessible for everyone. The whole point is to restrict voting. It's clear in the lack of evidence. It's clear in the added regulations written into these bills. It's clear in the statements made by supporters/authors of these bills.
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01-25-2017, 05:08 PM | #1618 |
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You're not required to cancel all of your existing email accounts when you start working for the government.
I imagine most significant republicans have RNC email accounts, just like most significant Democrats, including those in the Obama administration, have DNC email accounts. But you're not supposed to conduct official government business through those accounts, or through private servers. The mere fact that they exist doesn't mean much. Last edited by molson : 01-25-2017 at 05:18 PM. |
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I do the same but keep keys/ID/credit cards in the pocket of my water bottle. |
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01-25-2017, 05:23 PM | #1620 |
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I believe we went through an election where a bunch of people said no you aren't.
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There are a few anecdotes in that article about specific older folks who have expired forms of ID that aren't accepted and were unable to get a voter ID without legal help and paying fees of $250+ due to birth certificate issues, but studies and appeals court findings hopefully carry more weight than any anecdote so I quoted those instead. |
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Never said they were doing anything wrong. But the hypocrisy is rich. And especially after the Administration has asserted that there isn't going to be any further investigations into Clinton, it seems obvious that the entire thing was a smokescreen.
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There was an attempt at making IDs for everyone and Republicans fought against it. |
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Ya, a lot of European countries have voter ID laws, but usually those are in countries were IDs are automatically issued to everyone. I get how that idea might have been scary a while ago, but in 2017, maybe it's time to just submit to technology and to the concept that we're all connected and a part of this country. Compulsory state and/or federal ID cards would probably make a lot of government functions and services a lot more efficient and inexpensive to run.
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I would definitely support a universal ID paid for by the government which would then have to be used to vote. It can be issued to everyone at 16 then renewed at 18 and every 5-10 years after? With digital pictures that maybe can be taken in multiple government offices for no charge, you wouldn't have to worry about going to an office that may be 50 miles away at renewal as well.
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The problem with a national ID for voting is that voting and elections are run at the state level. The only thing the feds really have involved is the Constitution selecting the date.
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01-25-2017, 06:27 PM | #1629 |
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So what minority groups are left for him to go after in the next few hours? He's gone after hispanics, he's gone after Muslims, he's gone after blacks. Has he said anything about the LGBTs or disabled lately.
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So he wants this probed because of something Bernhard Langer said... of course a German spurs the downfall of our society.
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Clinton illegally used a private server for government business. Nothing in the article above suggests that the same is happening. The hypocrisy on this issue is your own invention. |
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01-25-2017, 06:56 PM | #1632 |
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Trump consistently attacked Clinton for her private email server simply because there might be something salacious. Remember his constant 'what happened to the 30,000 email' attacks? And conflating the DNC leaks of Podesta's (not a governmental employee) emails with Clinton's?
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All voter ID laws allow for the use of a military ID as a form of identification. Something that is given out on the federal level. I have not seen a single elected official complain about this so I don't think that excuse will work. Last edited by RainMaker : 01-25-2017 at 07:53 PM. |
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I gotta give GreenPeace an "A" for effort
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But I don't know what this accomplishes.
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The freaking FBI director said Clinton definitely behaved in an illegal manner and a regular citizen would be in jail for her actions. |
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Since 22 million emails were deleted, I guess we'll never know.
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"Reimbursed in some form from whatever deal we make."
So whatever comes out of the NAFTA renegotiation will be called the payment for the wall?
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Except he never said that or anything close to that (hint: even 'extremely careless' doesn't mean illegal).
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That's right, it was disciplinary sanction. It was also negligence due to lack of sophistication. None of that was even hinted at with the article cited above.
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Not did his statement less than two weeks before the election have any impact on voters.
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I actually think he's mentally ill. Not even joking. He's talking about his appearance at the CIA.
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Most of the time with Trump I think that he's clearly unhinged, and that the US have lost all moral high ground to laugh at other countries with crazy leaders. Then I think in fact these other countries must be laughing even harder as the US actually voted for their crazy leader!
And yet he does say some things that I agree with, or are exagerrated things that I agree with, and I start to doubt myself... Then you see something like the above, if that's even real, and you wonder if he's just shit-storming for the hell of it...
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Someone needs to take Trumps pen away from him for awhile so he can have some time to think of the consequences of his actions thus far.
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That could be a Trump endgame. Do everything via executive order, and then "see? I told you I could do it, it was easy" then resign and blame everything running aground on congress and the courts ruining his perfect plans.
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Is that Peyton's first Superbowl win or his second Superbowl win?
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Same here. Like sometimes he articulates on an issue like the H1B visas and you're like maybe he's got good ideas and is just an over-the-top personality. But read the transcript of the interview. He spends like 5 minutes talking about some ovation he got at the CIA. He insinuates that Obama won in 2008 because the election was rigged. Goes on and on about the inauguration attendance. Talks about committing war crimes and breaking international law. Says we should steal resources from sovereign allies. I honestly think he is mentally ill. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trans...ry?id=45047602 Last edited by RainMaker : 01-26-2017 at 03:46 AM. |
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This is what I don't get. He graduated from Wharton at Penn, top of his class, right? Is that what a Penn education gets you?
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