Lost, Season 2 - Page 33

Easy Mac · 05-03-2006, 09:45 PM

At what point can we start throwing out our theories, because I have plenty, but work will probably preclude me from sharing.

samifan24 · 05-03-2006, 10:46 PM

Wow...what an ending.

Ok now what's the point of the commercial? I went to the website out of curiosity but I quickly closed it out because I don't want even the slightest hint as to what will happen in the last three episodes.

And in a completely unrelated note, ABC is now showing a new episode of Lost online the day after it airs on TV.

jbmagic · 05-03-2006, 11:54 PM

wow

Did you see Sawyer in Lucia flashback?

kingfc22 · 05-04-2006, 12:59 AM

Uhhhh wow

Now I hate Michael even more. I'm going to go with the he is an "other" now theory.

jbmagic · 05-04-2006, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Uhhhh wow

Now I hate Michael even more. I'm going to go with the he is an "other" now theory.

This was a big shocker at the end.

I guess because of the DUI charges in real life.

Who do you think is Jack's sister?

kingfc22 · 05-04-2006, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

This was a big shocker at the end.

I guess because of the DUI charges in real life.

Who do you think is Jack's sister?

I'd say yes to the DUI and I have no clue who Jack's sister is. Hurley better go ape shit on Michael, but from the preview it didn't look that way.

Raiders Army · 05-04-2006, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

wow

Did you see Sawyer in Lucia flashback?

It connected Sawyer's flashback from Season 1 where he talked to Jack's dad in a bar.

DUI stuff killed the Hurley/freaky chick storyline. They could've at least finished it off...unless they're gonna bring her back for some flashbacks. I liked the promo of Michael being the puppet master. Hopefully this will payoff in the season finale.

Draft Dodger · 05-04-2006, 06:19 AM

my guess? Michael was captured by the others and released to do a task for them in exchange for getting Walt back. maybe that task was just releasing Henry, but I think there's more to it.

Jack's sister is on the island. No point for that flashback otherwise. I would assume Claire, making Jack now a protective uncle (or half-uncle). dark horse candidate would be Libby, but if she's dead, that might be tough to reveal.

I didn't see the preview for next week. AL is dead for sure, I assume. She's been rumored to be getting the axe since day one. But is Libby dead for sure? Seems like a ginormous loose end for her to die now, although I guess they could work her story into a Hurley flashback. Maybe all the cans of food she was holding stopped the bullets? The title of the episode, though, would lead me to think that two people died.

jamesUMD · 05-04-2006, 06:41 AM

I also think that Libby is alive, but will be in coma or some other type of incapacitated state. The preview for next week, they say, "she's dead", not they're dead. Hurley seemed more relieved in the preview that Michael was not killed, rather than totally distraught that Libby died, which lends me to believe she is alive.

I beleive my sense of purpose for watching the show is clear now. Michael must die!!!

Bearcat729 · 05-04-2006, 07:02 AM

I don't think they will kill off Libby, but (and without revealing anything more concrete) there was something in the previews for the next few episodes that might make me a little mad if it really happens.

I don't think they will kill Libby just yet, they have to show that she has some kind of resolution over what ever happened in her past before shee dies.

larrymcg421 · 05-04-2006, 07:07 AM

Cynthia Watros is in a new pilot (a Tom Cavanaugh vehicle) for next season. Now the casting announcement listed her as a recurring guest star, but some people think that was to avoid spoiling her character's demise.

gottimd · 05-04-2006, 07:23 AM

Upcoming in the next TV Guide apparently is an in depth interview with the creators of the show. Not really a spoiler so i didn't invisotext or spoiler alert, but this is an excerpt from that interview about Michael.

"...The May 17 episode fills in the blanks on where Michael's been and what he's been doing. "He has gone through an ordeal that significantly changed the way he's acting and what motivates him," Lidelof says. "...is there anything a parent won't do to get their child back?"

Raiders Army · 05-04-2006, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

my guess? Michael was captured by the others and released to do a task for them in exchange for getting Walt back. maybe that task was just releasing Henry, but I think there's more to it.

Agree with you there. I think the whole "I'm sorry" before he shot Fight Chick proved that he's not one of the others.

While Libby may not be dead, she's at the minimum incapacitated, otherwise she'd rat out that Michael shot Fight Chick in the next episode.

DanGarion · 05-04-2006, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

It connected Sawyer's flashback from Season 1 where he talked to Jack's dad in a bar.

DUI stuff killed the Hurley/freaky chick storyline. They could've at least finished it off...unless they're gonna bring her back for some flashbacks. I liked the promo of Michael being the puppet master. Hopefully this will payoff in the season finale.

Actually she has been signed up for a full time gig on another show next season.

DeToxRox · 05-04-2006, 10:13 AM

Michael wishes he were Augustus Hill still.

Castlerock · 05-04-2006, 10:45 AM

Didn't Henry say to Ana-Lucia "You killed 2 of us..." ?
Goodwin was one, who was the second? Or am I remembering that conversation wrong?

Or did he mean "you" as all the Losties? In which case, he is probably talking about Goodwin and Ethan. That would infer that all the other people who were killed were not part of Henry's group but some third (or more) group.

Raiders Army · 05-04-2006, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Castlerock

Or did he mean "you" as all the Losties? In which case, he is probably talking about Goodwin and Ethan. That would infer that all the other people who were killed were not part of Henry's group but some third (or more) group.

Mr. Ecko killed one (or two?) as well. That would make three or four of the others they've killed.

sachmo71 · 05-04-2006, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Castlerock

Didn't Henry say to Ana-Lucia "You killed 2 of us..." ?
Goodwin was one, who was the second? Or am I remembering that conversation wrong?

Or did he mean "you" as all the Losties? In which case, he is probably talking about Goodwin and Ethan. That would infer that all the other people who were killed were not part of Henry's group but some third (or more) group.

Shannon

Poli · 05-04-2006, 11:04 AM

She killed the girl when the Others came back.

Thomkal · 05-04-2006, 11:13 AM

Well that kinda sucks if they killed those two off due to the DUI stuff. Especially because it spoils the Hurley subplot. Like the others (no not THOSE Others), I think Michael was coerced into freeing "Henry" and he would have killed anybody to do that. Ana Lucia and potentially Libby were the unlucky two. I also am beginning to think "Henry" has some mind control powers. Got AL to not kill him, Locke to think he was coming to get (save) him, maybe even Michael shooting himself. In any case those last couple minutes were quite shocking.

Claire seems the obvious choice for Jack's sister, since the woman was Australian.

Cuckoo · 05-04-2006, 11:30 AM

Don't know if this is a spoiler or not, but I'll preface it with that and then space down since it was in the previews for next week...

Am I the only one who thought it looked like Michael was locked in the safe room in the preview? I agree with the others who posted that it's somewhat telling the line from the preview is "She's dead" and not "They're dead."

I would think it's at least possible that Libby is fine and gave up Michael as the killer. Him shooting himself was to make it look like Henry tried to escape, I'm guessing.

jbmagic · 05-04-2006, 11:40 AM

I wonder why Henry told Locke he was coming for him.

what was that all about?

LoneStarGirl · 05-04-2006, 12:00 PM

man, I thought last night's episode was another repeat so i didn't bother watching! Is it coming on again?

Castlerock · 05-04-2006, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Mr. Ecko killed one (or two?) as well. That would make three or four of the others they've killed.

There have been plenty of people killed. That's why I found it interesting that he said "two of us". Can anyone confim that he did say that? If he did say "two of us", then that would imply that Henry does not consider the other people killed to be part of his group.

Castlerock · 05-04-2006, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sachmo71

Shannon

Yea. Ana-Lucia killed Goodwin and Shannon. But I thought Henry said, "two of us". Why would he include Shannon in "us"? Or maybe I am remembering the quote wrong.

Poli · 05-04-2006, 12:29 PM

Second time I'm posting this, Ana killed a girl at the first camp they were at.

Castlerock · 05-04-2006, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Second time I'm posting this, Ana killed a girl at the first camp they were at.

Ahhh. I thought you were referring to Shannon but after rereading your post, I see that was not the case. Thanks.

samifan24 · 05-04-2006, 04:38 PM

Who was Goodwin again? Someone please remind me.

mckerney · 05-04-2006, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by samifan24

Who was Goodwin again? Someone please remind me.

Basically he was the Ethan with the Tailies.

Swaggs · 05-04-2006, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by samifan24

Who was Goodwin again? Someone please remind me.

He was the "Other" in the tail end section. I think Ana-Lucia impaled him, if I remember correctly.

cmp · 05-04-2006, 04:45 PM

Finally, a moment that completely shocked me. The show had been getting too predictable as of late.

sovereignstar · 05-04-2006, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gold101

Finally, a moment that completely shocked me. The show had been getting too predictable as of late.

I agree. I was expecting Rose and Bernard to be the fuckbunnies.

LoneStarGirl · 05-04-2006, 05:02 PM

Damnit, I can't read this thread anymore, I am so confused!

sovereignstar · 05-04-2006, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

man, I thought last night's episode was another repeat so i didn't bother watching! Is it coming on again?

Uh, I can hook you up with the online version. I can either send you the torrent or if you've got AIM I can send it to you through that (I think - I've had problems sending stuff to people before).

Easy Mac · 05-04-2006, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

Uh, I can hook you up with the online version. I can either send you the torrent or if you've got AIM I can send it to you through that (I think - I've had problems sending stuff to people before).

or he can just watch it at abc.com

sovereignstar · 05-04-2006, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

or he can just watch it at abc.com

Oh? That's nifty.

Draft Dodger · 05-04-2006, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

or he can just watch it at abc.com

or she can

LoneStarGirl · 05-04-2006, 06:52 PM

gracias.

Raiders Army · 05-04-2006, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

gracias.

That's what she said.

Ooops. Wrong show.

rexallllsc · 05-04-2006, 07:03 PM

Purgatory theme or some such theme resurfaces. A-L decides against killing him, and is shortly thereafter killed. Hm.

samifan24 · 05-04-2006, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

He was the "Other" in the tail end section. I think Ana-Lucia impaled him, if I remember correctly.

Ah yes, I remember now, thanks. Goodwin was the guy that Ana-Lucia suspected of being an Other so she locked him up in their little pit before eventually killing him.

sovereignstar · 05-04-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by samifan24

Ah yes, I remember now, thanks. Goodwin was the guy that Ana-Lucia suspected of being an Other so she locked him up in their little pit before eventually killing him.

The guy she put in the pit is different from the guy who she eventually killed.

kingfc22 · 05-04-2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

The guy she put in the pit is different from the guy who she eventually killed.

Yep. The guy she put in the pit was on the flight but she was certain he was an other. Goodwin pulled him out of the pit at night and killed him.

Ana later realized that Goodwin was the real "other" and she impaled him with a wooden spear.

OldGiants · 05-04-2006, 08:24 PM

I was wondering when/how AL and Libby would get the ax. It was a bullet instead. Still, it was a shocker when it happened, even if I chuckled moments later.

As to NotTheHenry telling Locke he was coming to take him away (ha-ha, hee-hee, etc.) because Locke is one of the good ones, why didn't he come for Rose, too? I suspect NotTheHenry is lying once more.

Given the way the writers tease us with false info in the teasers, I doubt the fellow who appears to go over a cliff will actually do so. Hurley didn't, either.

NotTheHenry was very upset about AL killing Goodwin in particular. He mentions what a great man Goodwin was, doesn't he? That made me think of Michael as brainwashed, not as someone who is doing so to get Walt back.

NotTheHenry seemed sincere in his fear that he would be killed for getting captured, however. That should be an interesting revelation. Will we see NotTheHenry again soon?

sovereignstar · 05-04-2006, 08:28 PM

Do people really think a DUI had anything to do with yesterday's events?

jbmagic · 05-04-2006, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

Do people really think a DUI had anything to do with yesterday's events?

They won't admit to it.

http://entertainment.tv.yahoo.com/en...679812005.html

Daimyo · 05-05-2006, 10:00 AM

I think it's very likely that Michelle Rodriguez's character was originally intended to only be a one season thing and the DUI had nothing to do with it. Libby dying is kind of strange because of the Hurley storyline, but I wouldn't be surprised if she hangs on for a couple more episodes so that she can have a flashback and Hurley can remember her before she dies.

DanGarion · 05-05-2006, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Daimyo

I think it's very likely that Michelle Rodriguez's character was originally intended to only be a one season thing and the DUI had nothing to do with it. Libby dying is kind of strange because of the Hurley storyline, but I wouldn't be surprised if she hangs on for a couple more episodes so that she can have a flashback and Hurley can remember her before she dies.

They've already said it had nothing to do with the DUI and that Michelle signed up for a part role from the begining.

OldGiants · 05-05-2006, 12:11 PM

Perhaps the two women got the news they were being written out of a hit series, and then went out and got drunk. Filmed the episode later.

Draft Dodger · 05-05-2006, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OldGiants

Perhaps the two women got the news they were being written out of a hit series, and then went out and got drunk. Filmed the episode later.

since the incident, I've assumed they were at a cast party together or something (I know they all like to get together to watch the shows).

05-03-2006, 10:46 PM	#1602
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	Wow...what an ending. Ok now what's the point of the commercial? I went to the website out of curiosity but I quickly closed it out because I don't want even the slightest hint as to what will happen in the last three episodes. And in a completely unrelated note, ABC is now showing a new episode of Lost online the day after it airs on TV. __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

05-04-2006, 12:59 AM	#1604
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Uhhhh wow Now I hate Michael even more. I'm going to go with the he is an "other" now theory. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

05-04-2006, 06:19 AM	#1608
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	my guess? Michael was captured by the others and released to do a task for them in exchange for getting Walt back. maybe that task was just releasing Henry, but I think there's more to it. Jack's sister is on the island. No point for that flashback otherwise. I would assume Claire, making Jack now a protective uncle (or half-uncle). dark horse candidate would be Libby, but if she's dead, that might be tough to reveal. I didn't see the preview for next week. AL is dead for sure, I assume. She's been rumored to be getting the axe since day one. But is Libby dead for sure? Seems like a ginormous loose end for her to die now, although I guess they could work her story into a Hurley flashback. Maybe all the cans of food she was holding stopped the bullets? The title of the episode, though, would lead me to think that two people died. __________________ Mile High Hockey

05-04-2006, 06:41 AM	#1609
jamesUMD High School JV Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Baltimore, MD	I also think that Libby is alive, but will be in coma or some other type of incapacitated state. The preview for next week, they say, "she's dead", not they're dead. Hurley seemed more relieved in the preview that Michael was not killed, rather than totally distraught that Libby died, which lends me to believe she is alive. I beleive my sense of purpose for watching the show is clear now. Michael must die!!! __________________ HailtotheRedskins!

05-04-2006, 07:07 AM	#1611
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Cynthia Watros is in a new pilot (a Tom Cavanaugh vehicle) for next season. Now the casting announcement listed her as a recurring guest star, but some people think that was to avoid spoiling her character's demise. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-03-2006, 09:45 PM	#1601
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	At what point can we start throwing out our theories, because I have plenty, but work will probably preclude me from sharing.

05-03-2006, 11:54 PM	#1603
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	wow Did you see Sawyer in Lucia flashback?

05-04-2006, 07:02 AM	#1610
Bearcat729 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio	I don't think they will kill off Libby, but (and without revealing anything more concrete) there was something in the previews for the next few episodes that might make me a little mad if it really happens. I don't think they will kill Libby just yet, they have to show that she has some kind of resolution over what ever happened in her past before shee dies.

05-04-2006, 07:23 AM	#1612
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	Upcoming in the next TV Guide apparently is an in depth interview with the creators of the show. Not really a spoiler so i didn't invisotext or spoiler alert, but this is an excerpt from that interview about Michael. "...The May 17 episode fills in the blanks on where Michael's been and what he's been doing. "He has gone through an ordeal that significantly changed the way he's acting and what motivates him," Lidelof says. "...is there anything a parent won't do to get their child back?" __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

05-04-2006, 10:13 AM	#1615
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Michael wishes he were Augustus Hill still.

05-04-2006, 10:45 AM	#1616
Castlerock High School Varsity Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, Ma	Didn't Henry say to Ana-Lucia "You killed 2 of us..." ? Goodwin was one, who was the second? Or am I remembering that conversation wrong? Or did he mean "you" as all the Losties? In which case, he is probably talking about Goodwin and Ethan. That would infer that all the other people who were killed were not part of Henry's group but some third (or more) group.

05-04-2006, 11:04 AM	#1619
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	She killed the girl when the Others came back. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

05-04-2006, 11:13 AM	#1620
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Well that kinda sucks if they killed those two off due to the DUI stuff. Especially because it spoils the Hurley subplot. Like the others (no not THOSE Others), I think Michael was coerced into freeing "Henry" and he would have killed anybody to do that. Ana Lucia and potentially Libby were the unlucky two. I also am beginning to think "Henry" has some mind control powers. Got AL to not kill him, Locke to think he was coming to get (save) him, maybe even Michael shooting himself. In any case those last couple minutes were quite shocking. Claire seems the obvious choice for Jack's sister, since the woman was Australian.

05-04-2006, 11:30 AM	#1621
Cuckoo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edmond, OK	Don't know if this is a spoiler or not, but I'll preface it with that and then space down since it was in the previews for next week... Am I the only one who thought it looked like Michael was locked in the safe room in the preview? I agree with the others who posted that it's somewhat telling the line from the preview is "She's dead" and not "They're dead." I would think it's at least possible that Libby is fine and gave up Michael as the killer. Him shooting himself was to make it look like Henry tried to escape, I'm guessing. __________________ Commissioner - North American Football League Dallas Cowboys GM

05-04-2006, 11:40 AM	#1622
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	I wonder why Henry told Locke he was coming for him. what was that all about?

05-04-2006, 12:00 PM	#1623
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	man, I thought last night's episode was another repeat so i didn't bother watching! Is it coming on again?

05-04-2006, 12:29 PM	#1626
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Second time I'm posting this, Ana killed a girl at the first camp they were at. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

05-04-2006, 04:38 PM	#1628
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	Who was Goodwin again? Someone please remind me. __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

05-04-2006, 04:45 PM	#1631
cmp Pro Rookie Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Grand Rapids, MI	Finally, a moment that completely shocked me. The show had been getting too predictable as of late.

05-04-2006, 05:02 PM	#1633
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Damnit, I can't read this thread anymore, I am so confused!

05-04-2006, 06:52 PM	#1638
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	gracias.

05-04-2006, 07:03 PM	#1640
rexallllsc Banned Join Date: May 2003	Purgatory theme or some such theme resurfaces. A-L decides against killing him, and is shortly thereafter killed. Hm.

05-04-2006, 08:24 PM	#1644
OldGiants College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Location, Location, Location	I was wondering when/how AL and Libby would get the ax. It was a bullet instead. Still, it was a shocker when it happened, even if I chuckled moments later. As to NotTheHenry telling Locke he was coming to take him away (ha-ha, hee-hee, etc.) because Locke is one of the good ones, why didn't he come for Rose, too? I suspect NotTheHenry is lying once more. Given the way the writers tease us with false info in the teasers, I doubt the fellow who appears to go over a cliff will actually do so. Hurley didn't, either. NotTheHenry was very upset about AL killing Goodwin in particular. He mentions what a great man Goodwin was, doesn't he? That made me think of Michael as brainwashed, not as someone who is doing so to get Walt back. NotTheHenry seemed sincere in his fear that he would be killed for getting captured, however. That should be an interesting revelation. Will we see NotTheHenry again soon? __________________ "The case of Great Britain is the most astonishing in this matter of inequality of rights in world soccer championships. The way they explained it to me as a child, God is one but He's three: Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I could never understand it. And I still don't understand why Great Britain is one but she's four....while [others] continue to be no more than one despite the diverse nationalities that make them up." Eduardo Galeano, SOCCER IN SUN AND SHADOW

05-04-2006, 08:28 PM	#1645
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Do people really think a DUI had anything to do with yesterday's events?

05-05-2006, 10:00 AM	#1647
Daimyo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Berkeley	I think it's very likely that Michelle Rodriguez's character was originally intended to only be a one season thing and the DUI had nothing to do with it. Libby dying is kind of strange because of the Hurley storyline, but I wouldn't be surprised if she hangs on for a couple more episodes so that she can have a flashback and Hurley can remember her before she dies.

05-05-2006, 12:11 PM	#1649
OldGiants College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Location, Location, Location	Perhaps the two women got the news they were being written out of a hit series, and then went out and got drunk. Filmed the episode later. __________________ "The case of Great Britain is the most astonishing in this matter of inequality of rights in world soccer championships. The way they explained it to me as a child, God is one but He's three: Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I could never understand it. And I still don't understand why Great Britain is one but she's four....while [others] continue to be no more than one despite the diverse nationalities that make them up." Eduardo Galeano, SOCCER IN SUN AND SHADOW

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